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Hi,
Core Player 1.2 --
http://www.coreplayer.com/
GK
no warez here,, this is not free software.
gvijayaratnam said:
Hi,
Core Player 1.2 -- No serial needed
http://www.coreplayer.com/
GK
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Core Player 1.2
Is this a joke or what? This cost $29.99.
stupid thread.
The original link in the first post was pointing to a cracked version of Core Player. A Mod has edited the link to point to the official Core Player site.
Thread should be closed and removed. Warez is not alowed and this thread is dumb.
On the other hand, people post warez links here ALL the time by posting ROMs.
Beyond that many ROMs contain software that carriers/manufacturers need to pay for and people install these ROMs on phones that did not come with the corresponding software pre-installed.
Just because this software is not available as a seperate purchase and doesn't require activation/serial etc. doesn't mean that it's not "warez".
if u knew how to get free soda out of machine i'm sure u'd do it.
same idea with warez.
undac said:
On the other hand, people post warez links here ALL the time by posting ROMs.
Beyond that many ROMs contain software that carriers/manufacturers need to pay for and people install these ROMs on phones that did not come with the corresponding software pre-installed.
Just because this software is not available as a seperate purchase and doesn't require activation/serial etc. doesn't mean that it's not "warez".
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Ummm...people don't sell ROM's on here however.
why pay $30 when you can get it for free. the only people who are complaining are the ones who paid for it and now they feel dumb. and honestly it is overpriced anyways.
I'm gonna put my flamesuit on.
Feel dumb? Nah. I supported development of a program that takes advantage of features of my phone that HTC wouldn't give me and the CoreCodec team had to reverse engineer.
You're a criminal.
So no, I don't feel dumb, I feel like I spent my $21.99 wisely - that's what, about 15 minutes of defense lawyer time?
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why pay $30 when you can get it for free.
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Because it is illegal. Duh!
It's called having morals and doing the right thing. Try it sometime.
MODS - Pls close this thread.
maybe his morals are worth less than $30
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Ummm...people don't sell ROM's on here however.
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So, did this guy try to sell a warez copy of CorePlayer? If not, I cannot see the relevance in your reply.
The Difference...
The Admin & Moderators spend a lot of time discussing this exact issue and there is a difference between Roms (and the software that is included in them) and cracked commercial software.
First, Cooked Roms allow us to customized our Operating Systems which we have a license to use. It's similiar to adding/removing features from our desktops OS except because of the embedded nature of our devices the process is more involved. Don't want Office Mobile the only wayto remove it is cook a Rom.
Second, usually the applications included in the Rom are not commercial applications. Here is GPS Tool or Quick GPS available for purchase? Even when a commercial application is included in a Rom it isn't a version that is commercially avaliable; look at the taster version of TomTom and Cyberon Voice Dialer/Commader. I belive that the version of Sprite Back-up included in the at&t Roms is also a different version which won't upgrade using the commercial versions.
We acknowledge that we are in a gray area legally and as such we have to be very stringent about what we do and don't allow. If we become a Warez site then XDA-Developers will surely close down or loose all of the good that it currently offers simply to provide Warez.
Also as a community of DEVELOPERS we are as a community against stealing from developers.
It is a fine line we walk but in the end it is up to you our forum members to help us walk this line or abandon us as we refuse to allow WAREZ.
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why pay $30 when you can get it for free. the only people who are complaining are the ones who paid for it and now they feel dumb. and honestly it is overpriced anyways.
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You must be the same guy that thinks it's okay to take someones car when they leave the keys in it... ...cause you got the car for free
I did actually buy quite some software. But when it comes to playing videos I still use TCPMP instead of CorePlayer. And guess what, that's freeware!
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why pay $30 when you can get it for free. the only people who are complaining are the ones who paid for it and now they feel dumb. and honestly it is overpriced anyways.
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You sir, are an IDIOT! I can get anything for free & I'm certain I know of more sources than you could ever dream of. That said, while there are certian thing that are limited trials, or have no trial version & I will usually download to test those. Just like SK Tools, which is a great app, so I PURCHASED IT.
Guess what, if everybody was a scumbag thief like you, developers would stop making the programs you use. So it's because of us so called "stupid" people, that you can even cheat the system. Think about it idiot! If everyone was stealing your $hit, you'd stop making it, right?
So think before you open your pie hole Jacka$$, I know that's hard for many people.
very well said!
As you know, "Spectral Souls" already released. Can someone crack it?
(Sorry for my english)
We don't talk about such things on these forums.
Also, why the hello can't people spend a few bucks on an app? Most of them cost less than a starbucks mocha.
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We don't talk about such things on these forums.
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I'm sorry, I did not know about it.
Also, why the hello can't people spend a few bucks on an app? Most of them cost less than a starbucks mocha.
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1. I don't know, will it run correctly on my Spica, or not.
2. I'm from Ukraine, and we have Non-paid Android Market.
3. This game cost 15$.
You're asking for warez, we don't care why.
You're asking for warez, we don't care why.
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I answered the question.
Try shooting the developer an email. He/She/They/It might be able to arrange a payment method and you might be able to get an answer on whether it will run on your phone or not.
When does that "new users cannot post" thing come into effect? ...
I googled this reply about the same problem:
"The game can run on google g1 phone however we cannot really recommend to play
the game on device with qvga display, so it is very difficult to answer your
question properly, yes it can run but the performances will be low, so it is
really a matter of each person then... , also, if there is a technical issue the
game will announce before downloading the 1 GB if the hdware is supported or
not, so everybody could download it and at least check that the hardware is
supported or not, then to push the 1 GB download will be a personal decision."
Don't Get Us In Trouble
What part of this rule isn't clear to you? Let me highlight the "between the lines" bits that you should have picked up on ...
9. Don't get us in trouble.
Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things that will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably don't want to do it here either. This does not mean we agree with everything the software piracy lobby try to impose on us, it simply means you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users, and those that write great code.
Forum Rules, Please Read!
Keep seeing posts about what apps do you use (I've posted a few myself). Thought I'd do a poll so that other new comers can quickly assess what the most popular options are instead of purchasing many different apps.
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hertsjoatmon said:
found a copy of adobe ideas ideas <warez url> seems to work fine
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Sounds like your promoting piracy here... Since I do some Android development and have always respected the work of developers, I gotta report you and hope you get banned.
Maybe you should learn to write apps, pour your time and energy into it in hopes of making some money only to have people pirate it.
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hertsjoatmon said:
found a copy of adobe ideas ideas <snip>.com
seems to work fine
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xda forum rules:
6. Do not post warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, then pay for it. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to request, promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained. This is a site of developers, i.e. the sort of people who create such software. When you cheat a software developer, you cheat us as a community.
I completely understand and support the policy here.
However, I believe this was an innocent mistake. I certainly hope the OP doesn't get banned for it... All that's needed is a friendly reminder of the rules and clear warning not to do it again.
No need to crucify the guy for being unaware.
can't be innocent. that's from known warez site.
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can't be innocent. that's from known warez site.
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[could not stop myself:] How would _you_ know?
Apologies. I wasn't thinking. It's an app I really wanted to try as the reviews sounded good. As it's no longer available for Purchase, I didn't think it would be a problem as I see threads on here with links for apps ported from other devices such as super note
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xda forum rules:
6. Do not post warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, then pay for it. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to request, promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained. This is a site of developers, i.e. the sort of people who create such software. When you cheat a software developer, you cheat us as a community.
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Apologies. If it was available to purchase I would purchase it. That was the only place I could find it. If some one can link a source where I can pay for it, I will do gladly.
hertsjoatmon said:
Apologies. If it was available to purchase I would purchase it. That was the only place I could find it. If some one can link a source where I can pay for it, I will do gladly.
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Not to bash you anymore, so apart from any ethical considerations...
Reality is - until you advertise it - nobody here knows and cares how you obtained your apps.
The practical dimension is more important and really simple - if we want xda to exist, let's not provide grounds for piracy promotion accusations.
The rest is between you and your conscience (and copyright enforcement agencies I might add).
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Not to bash you anymore, so apart from any ethical considerations...
Reality is - until you advertise it - nobody here knows and cares how you obtained your apps.
The practical dimension is more important and really simple - if we want xda to exist, let's not provide grounds for piracy promotion accusations.
The rest is between you and your conscience (and copyright enforcement agencies I might add).
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So should I request others be band for posting links to apps that aren't available to note 8.0 users as it isn't available via legitimate sources? The first guy to suggest I get band got vcl via an alternate source as well as supernote. Yes the site I suggested is unethical but how is that different to people posting a link to Dropbox?
I appreciate that what I did was wrong, but I take offence to be accused of not supporting developers. I've deleted the post and I'm willing to pay for the app if someone can suggest a way for me to do so.
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Sounds like your promoting piracy here... Since I do some Android development and have always respected the work of developers, I gotta report you and hope you get banned.
Maybe you should learn to write apps, pour your time and energy into it in hopes of making some money only to have people pirate it.
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Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. While I appreciate I made a mistake with my suggestion, by downloading supernote on here, aren't you undermining Asus who have the rights to it? I'm just trying to understand where the moral lines are? Getting an app that is no longer distributed anywhere is wrong, but getting an app that is exclusive to a particular vendor?
Sorry for all my posts in this thread. I enjoy contributing to these forums. I've learnt a lot on here and like to help others where I can. I just don't want to get banned for suggesting sourcing an app that is no longer available
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So should I request others be band for posting links to apps that aren't available to note 8.0 users as it isn't available via legitimate sources? The first guy to suggest I get band got vcl via an alternate source as well as supernote. Yes the site I suggested is unethical but how is that different to people posting a link to Dropbox?
I appreciate that what I did was wrong, but I take offence to be accused of not supporting developers.
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Let's not get into defensive mode, small missteps happen to everybody now and then. Nevertheless "everybody does that..." does not provide valid reason for anything.
It's not about yours, mine on anybody else's excuse on getting stuff in shady ways, it's about not advertising the fact on xda. Nothing more than that.
I'm sorry you had to learn that in rather unpleasant way.
hertsjoatmon said:
I've deleted the post and I'm willing to pay for the app if someone can suggest a way for me to do so.
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Thanks for removing that post. Really.
hertsjoatmon said:
So should I request others be band for posting links to apps that aren't available to note 8.0 users as it isn't available via legitimate sources? The first guy to suggest I get band got vcl via an alternate source as well as supernote. Yes the site I suggested is unethical but how is that different to people posting a link to Dropbox?
I appreciate that what I did was wrong, but I take offence to be accused of not supporting developers. I've deleted the post and I'm willing to pay for the app if someone can suggest a way for me to do so.
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Sorry for this post up front because I know it causes more drama but....
Even though I agree with the warez link not being posted here on XDA you make a strong point. The question is where does the line get drawn? Take the hotpot mods for example. They are allowing one to get something for free that usually is only obtainable through an additional monthly fee.
My opinion is these things should be decided by Moderators and not members because both sides have an argument when it comes to this. Best practice is to report the post and let them make the decision on what is best for XDA. When members confront other members a lot of times it has a tendency to get a bit ugly.
It's a shame this thread got side tracked so soon, I was hoping to promote discussion on the pros and cons of particular favoured apps . Wishlists of features and promotion of the lesser known apps for people wishing to experiment
hertsjoatmon said:
It's a shame this thread got side tracked so soon, I was hoping to promote discussion on the pros and cons of particular favoured apps . Wishlists of features and promotion of the lesser known apps for people wishing to experiment
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That would be a great thread. Why not start a new one? Perhaps this one can get renamed.
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Sometime during the week, I'm going to start an open google document to do a table of the apps listed on here and the features that each one has.
max resolution. max layers. export jpeg. export png. vector. brush types. layer options. duplicate, merge, colour, overlay, multiply, mask. blend took. dodge / burn tool. flip. grid overlay etc etc.
I will post a link once I have it up and hope that you can help in filling it in. These apps are all getting updates and i'm losing track of what has what functionality. Ideally, id like to minimise the amount i need to go in and out of various apps and this table should help me decide which ones best complement each other.
with out a blend / smudge tool. sketchbook pro is off of my short list. I can import my psd file from layerpaint into it, which is great but with out the smudge tool it makes colouring far to difficult.
both artflow and infinite painter have this option but I can figure out a way to open a psd file from a different application in them which is really frustrating.
looks like clover paint can both import and export in psd, it has unlimited canvas size and layers and also includes a blend tool... It's just made it to top of my list of apps to try.
I emailed the artflow dev and was told there is no plans in the near future to support psd import
Hello friends,
I want to ask if free apps which are monetized by admob considered as commercial use or no ?
I mean i publish some apps on google play for free but i monetized it by admob but sometimes i need to use some icons or images from the web in these apps and i find the license of these images is (Commercial use : Not Allowed).
So can i use it as i publish these apps for free ?
If you are making money with your app in any way shape or form, it is commercial in nature and therefore infringes on those resources licenses. (Icons, images, etc.)
Doesn't matter whether or not your app is free it's still commercial because you profit from it.
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If you are making money with your app in any way shape or form, it is commercial in nature and therefore infringes on those resources licenses. (Icons, images, etc.)
Doesn't matter whether or not your app is free it's still commercial because you profit from it.
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Thanks for your help but could you provide me with a formal link with this meaning ??
https://wiki.creativecommons.org/4.0/NonCommercial
Read Noncommercial proposal no. 1
*making it clear that use of a licensed work on an ad-supported website is commercial
Here the term "website" also applies to "app".
Its obvious: if you make money, its commercial. No ifs or buts or whats, that's it.
Thanks but this is really hard and strange !! Then all those websites like sports websites or news..etc can't use any icon or graphical object with license no commercial just because they put some ads?!!
Thanks for your help at all
That's right.
Look up the meaning of commercial if its not clear enough.
I am trying very hard to be nice to you because you actually had enough honesty to ask before doing it, at least you had a shadow of a doubt in your mind.
But seriously, profit = commercial.
Think about it, you are using someone else's work and making money with it. That's stealing. Unless the license specifically says you can, you can't use the images without making arrangements and possibly having to pay royalties.
So please, don't break the law. Well break the law if you want I don't care, but just don't steal someone else's hard work...
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I am a photographer, and I would be furious to find my work in your "ad supported" app and I would probably call you a greedy bastard and a lot of other colorful names and then I would do all I can to make your life hell.
Look, if you really want to use the images, why don't you contact the author? Maybe he'll say yes, in that case you would be good.
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That's right.
Look up the meaning of commercial if its not clear enough.
I am trying very hard to be nice to you because you actually had enough honesty to ask before doing it, at least you had a shadow of a doubt in your mind.
But seriously, profit = commercial.
Think about it, you are using someone else's work and making money with it. That's stealing. Unless the license specifically says you can, you can't use the images without making arrangements and possibly having to pay royalties.
So please, don't break the law. Well break the law if you want I don't care, but just don't steal someone else's hard work...
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I am a photographer, and I would be furious to find my work in your "ad supported" app and I would probably call you a greedy bastard and a lot of other colorful names and then I would do all I can to make your life hell.
Look, if you really want to use the images, why don't you contact the author? Maybe he'll say yes, in that case you would be good.
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Yes, i understand you and i am really eager to abide these laws but i want to make sure first it is illegal so could you please check this link ?
http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-02-07-n77.html
Oh no, the legalese... Yes, it depends on how you use the images, okay. A blog is personal, even though you may have ads on it... Its like a YouTube channel. But with your app, you are offering a service. A free "ad supported" service, but a commercial service nonetheless.
If you really want to take this farther, you're going to have to ask a lawyer.
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Oh no, the legalese... Yes, it depends on how you use the images, okay. A blog is personal, even though you may have ads on it... Its like a YouTube channel. But with your app, you are offering a service. A free "ad supported" service, but a commercial service nonetheless.
If you really want to take this farther, you're going to have to ask a lawyer.
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OK, thanks but the problem these laws are different from country to country so which lawyer i should ask and which country i have to follow its laws?!
The country in which the resources originated.
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The country in which the resources originated.
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Yes, Thanks for your help man
You are welcome, I wish you luck with your endeavors.
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You are welcome, I wish you luck with your endeavors.
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Thanks
You mentioned you are a photographer, Could you please provide me with some websites which offers free images or graphical objects allowed for commercial?
Hi there,
as I found out, someone (Minh Trinh Anh) reverse engineered my game Tapazoic (game was also introduced in the forum) , stole assets and recreated it in unity3d so he could cover other unpopulated markets with my game (iOS, WP,..).
He then published with the same app name, app description as well as the same assets (music, sounds, graphics) claiming as it's his own work.
iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/app/tapazoic-tap-run/id972004258
WP: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/tapazoic/bb1437a5-0a4b-4446-8b73-f8af6cc1da9a
As far as I know, people can make clones, but not something like that.
Has anyone been in the situation like this? Does anyone has any advice?
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Hi there,
as I found out, someone (Minh Trinh Anh) reverse engineered my game Tapazoic (game was also introduced in the forum) , stole assets and recreated it in unity3d so he could cover other unpopulated markets with my game (iOS, WP,..).
He then published with the same app name, app description as well as the same assets (music, sounds, graphics) claiming as it's his own work.
iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/app/tapazoic-tap-run/id972004258
WP: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/tapazoic/bb1437a5-0a4b-4446-8b73-f8af6cc1da9a
As far as I know, people can make clones, but not something like that.
Has anyone been in the situation like this? Does anyone has any advice?
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Collect all the project files you have that were used to create your assets, or purchase agreements if you bought your assets, and find a good lawyer. You will likely find many who will take your case at no up front charge if you have all your proof of authentication in order.
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Collect all the project files you have that were used to create your assets, or purchase agreements if you bought your assets, and find a good lawyer. You will likely find many who will take your case at no up front charge if you have all your proof of authentication in order.
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I have all the sources. I'll try and find out. Thank you for helping me!
And I found out his profile:
https://www.facebook.com/trinhanhminh1405
I wouldn't try anything until you have your lawyer initiate a legal binding letter
I'm an attorney (I practice in Ohio) and I agree with everything noted above. It won't be that hard for an attorney to get these removed from the other app stores. He's not located in the US, it seems, and that could make it harder for you to stop him from selling it through foreign channels, but your attorney can at least get this pulled from the big stores pretty easily. I used to have to do this all the time when I worked as an attorney for a US software company. We had problems like this pop up across the globe. It sucks, but you should be able to get this squared up through an attorney. Just don't contact the guy personally. Let your attorney do the work. Otherwise you can end up encountering some pitfalls.
hgoran said:
Hi there,
as I found out, someone (Minh Trinh Anh) reverse engineered my game Tapazoic (game was also introduced in the forum) , stole assets and recreated it in unity3d so he could cover other unpopulated markets with my game (iOS, WP,..).
He then published with the same app name, app description as well as the same assets (music, sounds, graphics) claiming as it's his own work.
iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/app/tapazoic-tap-run/id972004258
WP: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/tapazoic/bb1437a5-0a4b-4446-8b73-f8af6cc1da9a
As far as I know, people can make clones, but not something like that.
Has anyone been in the situation like this? Does anyone has any advice?
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If he is a member here, he is going bye bye...
@Judge Joseph Dredd @KennyG123 @jerdog
Feel like hunting guys? First one to find him gets a cookie.
There are two rules in life for being successful:
1. Never reveal everything you know;
2.
Please leave us know how thing are doing for you Just in case it happen to us too
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If he is a member here, he is going bye bye...
@Judge Joseph Dredd @KennyG123 @jerdog
Feel like hunting guys? First one to find him gets a cookie.
There are two rules in life for being successful:
1. Never reveal everything you know;
2.
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Can't find anything referencing XDA but here is Google + is https://plus.google.com/101024669929800701592/about and he is the owner of the offending company We Inc.
egzthunder1 said:
If he is a member here, he is going bye bye...
@Judge Joseph Dredd @KennyG123 @jerdog
Feel like hunting guys? First one to find him gets a cookie.
There are two rules in life for being successful:
1. Never reveal everything you know;
2.
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Can't find anything referencing XDA but here is Google + is https://plus.google.com/101024669929800701592/about and he is the owner of the offending company We Inc.
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Same found. But still looking....
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I hope you can do that if you find him!
Thanks @jonny6pak @electrikjesus for the advice, but I already contacted them myself.
I contacted the App store and the WP store (I could wait of course). The App store contacted us shortly via mail stating my complaint among other legal stuff. He had to prove he didn't infringe my rights, but he just answered that he pulled it off the store. So I guess that was quick.
I'm worried about WP store, he doesn't want to pull it off... but I will wait a few more days maybe I'll hear from their legal team.
@Argurth I will report.
He made the game with unity3d so he must be also in violation of their license, stated in section 2.5.:
http://unity3d.com/legal/eula
Just wanted to share some thoughts....
Apparently this guy or a group of them are exposing themself as MicroLink studios and We Inc. companies. They have a few games, all suspicious in both accounts. Anyway I won't bother with it...
Previous month App store forced owner of the We Inc. with my complaint to remove the app, but WP store did nothing (no communications after I provided them a certified signature). I had to contact the owner and explained the situation (all violations) and he disabled the app without any reply.
The MicroLink studio has released Cocoman previous month on the popular markets (App store, G.Play, WP store) which is a fine clone of my Tapazoic.
Now if you search the WP Store for "Tapazoic" they will throw you Cocoman which I guess is a "great suggestion" for the owner.
So I guess there is no hope for indie devs these days.