Will Froyo be available for polaris someday? - Touch Cruise Android Development

As you know, Google has published Froyo sources. And there is a froyo on SF already. I tried it on my POLA100. It installed and launched well. No wifi, bt, camera, external sound, gps, 3g... Nothing except phone—can receive and send calls. For my humble opinion it runs as fast as current speeded eclairs, even dialer runs almost immediately. Will it see future on polarises, or it's time to think about some native android device? =)

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I dont know what you expect from our devs here.
As far as i know the source is only a few days old (23.june).
At this moment eclair is about to get fully functional camera, stable builds, battery life and a good competition between the roms.
So if you neeeed it that much it would be the best to buy a native android device that gets the latest versions first.
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So there will be a delay, it depends on how much changes must be done.
I hope that android will become more and more a real alternative for our device.
Since im using android on my polaris i think its like i bought a totally new device and im really happy about it.
Another thx to all devs, modders here ;D

dertester123 said:
I dont know what you expect from our devs here.
As far as i know the source is only a few days old (23.june).
At this moment eclair is about to get fully functional camera, stable builds, battery life and a good competition between the roms.
So if you neeeed it that much it would be the best to buy a native android device that gets the latest versions first.
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off topic, we're on enthusiastic dev forum

dertester123 said:
I dont know what you expect from our devs here.
As far as i know the source is only a few days old (23.june).
At this moment eclair is about to get fully functional camera, stable builds, battery life and a good competition between the roms.
So if you neeeed it that much it would be the best to buy a native android device that gets the latest versions first.
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Sorry for possible intonation and meaning misunderstanding. Actually I didn't complain or tried make somebody do something. I appreciate all the devs for their work, It is really great challenge for them to port and adapt builds and eclair gets almost perfect lately. My question was actually just a question about possible future. There could be some hardware restrictions, incompatible drivers, who knows what else, right? So it could be no future for Froyo on polaris at all, that was my question about actually. But dzo has already answered it with uploaded froyo build which installed and launched on my polaris, so I am glad that there is possible oportunity for Froyo and polaris. And of course I am not agitating to get native android phones, and not laughing on enthusiasts here, forgive me my english. =)
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ah sorry too, got you wrong^^
sometimes hard if everybody is translating ;D
In the vogue thread they started the froyo development by incubus.
First build is on with bug, but he tries to get a build with most things working this night ^^
Faster than thought

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[HD2 NEWS] Linux kernel done. -Where are the android builds?

#htc_linux @ twitter said:
htc_linux So where are all the #android builds for #hd2 ? Now that
we have the working #linux kernel, chefs are letting android fanboys down
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This thread is created just to inform you kind chefs that a working linux kernel for the HD2 has been built by:
Developers:
cr2, LeTama, Markinus, NetRipper, dcordes
We (the HD2 community) were wondering where the android builds are now that the hard part has been done.
I created this thread to inform you of this succes.
Original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632
(you will see the high demand for android once you are there )
-Happy cooking
That would be great to have Android on HD2 !
That's AWESOME news!
Can't wait to have this running on my HD2.
This is a little premature to be asking devs to make android builds.... the kernel doesn't even have sound or touchscreen drivers implemented yet. The kernel is bootable, but nowhere near done.
zarathustrax said:
This is a little premature to be asking devs to make android builds.... the kernel doesn't even have sound or touchscreen drivers implemented yet. The kernel is bootable, but nowhere near done.
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everything starts small and buggy. you wont get a fully functional android build from one day to another
I don't know much about this but I heard that T-Mobile USA will be reportedly (rumors right now) be getting an HTC 4.3" Android snapdragon device with sense called the Sidekick Twist (though it will have a QWERTY) sometime this summer. Maybe somebody could try a transfer of that rom if and when out releases. Don't have an HD2 but that would be awesome.
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Hope to see some Ando Cookies for HD2 in close future.
Thanks to all Developers.
Cheers,
Let the cookers tries to rebuild android with the good toolchain, hope everything will be fine in the compilation process !
I think we'll know soon what is missing or doesn't work with Android and HD2.
Thanks to all guys (dcordes, LeTama, NetRipper, ...) for making this possible !
Congrats to all those working so hard on this. Great progress and a working ROM must be on the cards before too long. I'm not going to lie though, I wish you all worked faster
THaNks To All THE DEVS....
Thanks guys for working hard on this HACK.... Cant wait to have the android 2.1 running on my hd2... "Keep Moving At The Speed Of Light"

[ROM] WOOT fastest hero rom out there!!! I mean FASTEST!

hi all,
i just found one greaaaaaaaaaat hero rom.
its REALLY the fastest. and i mean REALLY.
i hate it when people say 'fast' 'stable' but this 1 is really FAST!
i tried them all but this one is unbelievable!
i made a video revieuw for you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcZmwn_tDpk
Download link is in the video description + link to the ROM.
Leave your comments below!
oh and people search crashes^^ but thats not a problem!
//Nick
Well, it's not really a new ROM, but I haven't tried it until now...
I was always disappointed by the speed, incoming calls lag, and constantly reloading homescreen with sense ROMs. I will give it a try though! Thanks for your video!!
You are right, everyone tells he has the fastest ROM out there but in the end I got tired trying all ROMs - and maybe missed the real fast one...
One question: which sdcard and settings (partition, compcache, swap, etc.) do you use on your 32B running this rom?
Thanks!
hudl said:
Well, it's not really a new ROM, but I haven't tried it until now...
I was always disappointed by the speed, incoming calls lag, and constantly reloading homescreen with sense ROMs. I will give it a try though! Thanks for your video!!
You are right, everyone tells he has the fastest ROM out there but in the end I got tired trying all ROMs - and maybe missed the real fast one...
One question: which sdcard and settings (partition, compcache, swap, etc.) do you use on your 32B running this rom?
Thanks!
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this one havent got even 1 RELOAD HOME SCREEN!!
i was running opera, market, people, messages, settings, weather and still super fast.
And no this rom isnt really new but really good!
My sdcard settings are: sdcard class 6 gb linux swap (i thought i got 96mb swap)
then i just flashed the rom and didnt touched anything further so i dont know i got compcache disabled or enabled .
you really got to try it man
hope you like it!!
//Nick
Thanks man! Will definately try it when at home!
It´s a ROM based on Android 1.5 and nearly 1 Year old.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534479
zerocoolriddler said:
It´s a ROM based on Android 1.5 and nearly 1 Year old.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534479
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so wut?
if you take some hero rom from now it will be 10x slower..
so please dont post that useloss posts..
nickislauw said:
so wut?
if you take some hero rom from now it will be 10x slower..
so please dont post that useloss posts..
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hes trying to say the system is out of date, near obsolete and not able to run the latest and best apps.
yea! it's really fasttttttttttttt!!!!!!
Thnx u man!!!!
chickenz88 said:
yea! it's really fasttttttttttttt!!!!!!
Thnx u man!!!!
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Good !
and it will run many apps :S
like doodle jump, setcpu etc.!
So dont post if you only got useless things to say !
//Nick
warsng said:
hes trying to say the system is out of date, near obsolete and not able to run the latest and best apps.
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That's right. But let's face it - our device IS old and at the end of the day it's just a phone - and as such it's good if it works as supposed (and don't miss calls bcause being too slow...). So we have to live with an old version and won't be able to get all the cool new features without getting a new phone...
hudl said:
that's right. But let's face it - our device is old and at the end of the day it's just a phone - and as such it's good if it works as supposed (and don't miss calls bcause being too slow...). So we have to live with an old version and won't be able to get all the cool new features without getting a new phone...
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+1 :d
hudl said:
That's right. But let's face it - our device IS old and at the end of the day it's just a phone - and as such it's good if it works as supposed (and don't miss calls bcause being too slow...). So we have to live with an old version and won't be able to get all the cool new features without getting a new phone...
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actually some of the eclair roms work just as fast as cupcake. it all depends on how much it has been optimized for g1.
check out Super E
On video it looks really smooth, I'm downloading it right now. Let's try this thing out, I don't care if it's Cupcake, because IMO Cupcake Hero > Vanilla Eclair, only con is that many newer apps is not compatible with 1.5. But for me it's not an issue - I use very few and rather old apps, so it's not a problem for me at all . Flashing and giving feedback in few hours.
warsng said:
actually some of the eclair roms work just as fast as cupcake. it all depends on how much it has been optimized for g1.
check out Super E
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While I'm definitely not one to dispute the greatness of the Eclair on the g1 (and Froyo on it's big chested sister, the MyTouch) it needs to be understood that we are at an End of Days. Regardless of it's validity, the rumor that Gingerbread will require a 1Ghz isn't terribly far-fetched. And the state of newer Android phones shows that 1Ghz is quickly becoming the baseline, with newer and in production phones going even further. Maybe this Hero rom is out of date for running the newest apps, but hell, our phone is limiting that more than the OS is! So let's do the time warp, enjoy some majik from yesteryear, and be content knowing that we can still do amazing things with our Androids and marvel at what was created when we were still kings. For, someday, we must all retire our phones.
Everyone's waiting.
chaibynight said:
While I'm definitely not one to dispute the greatness of the Eclair on the g1 (and Froyo on it's big chested sister, the MyTouch) it needs to be understood that we are at an End of Days. Regardless of it's validity, the rumor that Gingerbread will require a 1Ghz isn't terribly far-fetched. And the state of newer Android phones shows that 1Ghz is quickly becoming the baseline, with newer and in production phones going even further. Maybe this Hero rom is out of date for running the newest apps, but hell, our phone is limiting that more than the OS is! So let's do the time warp, enjoy some majik from yesteryear, and be content knowing that we can still do amazing things with our Androids and marvel at what was created when we were still kings. For, someday, we must all retire our phones.
Everyone's waiting.
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actually i think one of the main android dev team said 3.0 would work on the g1. its out this year, so not long to wait to find out
and froyo in its current form runs just about acceptably on it, so i think u should give our dear old g1 some credit its still got life in it yet
Yep, I also think that every hardware has its limitations and everything beyond 1.6 is a liitle too much for G1 (however CyanogenMod 6 is something like a miracle, it adds SO MUCH to the system, so much goodies and it runs nearly as good as Donut, one thing to improve is stability). We can port 2.1, 2.2, Hero Eclair and much more, but for what reason? Only to say "yep, it is possible" but not even 10% fast enough?
I'm so happy that even having the oldest Android device I can run almost everything that was realesed for any Android phone and I'm really thankful to all those devs, but sometimes we have to face the truth. If you want usable Sense ROM - it has to be Cupcake Sense.
So far - it's great! It runs very, very smooth! Not only that - it loads apps very quickly. I'm really happy for now. Let's see how's battery life and if it slows down after few hours. HTC improved Android very much with Sense. They've added many features not present in stock Android, and their Cupcake Sense is good enough to beat even vanilla Eclair. IMO ofc.
raven_raven said:
Yep, I also think that every hardware has its limitations and everything beyond 1.6 is a liitle too much for G1 (however CyanogenMod 6 is something like a miracle, it adds SO MUCH to the system, so much goodies and it runs nearly as good as Donut, one thing to improve is stability). We can port 2.1, 2.2, Hero Eclair and much more, but for what reason? Only to say "yep, it is possible" but not even 10% fast enough?
I'm so happy that even having the oldest Android device I can run almost everything that was realesed for any Android phone and I'm really thankful to all those devs, but sometimes we have to face the truth. If you want usable Sense ROM - it has to be Cupcake Sense.
So far - it's great! It runs very, very smooth! Not only that - it loads apps very quickly. I'm really happy for now. Let's see how's battery life and if it slows down after few hours. HTC improved Android very much with Sense. They've added many features not present in stock Android, and their Cupcake Sense is good enough to beat even vanilla Eclair. IMO ofc.
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brothers, do not worry, android is based on linux and linux is known for getting performance out of ageing devices (like our g1). when gingerbread is released you will see what i mean
why start a new thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534479
I don't like cupcake much, i'll try the ROM anyway but meh... :/
All I want is a fast, stable, functional,Eclair Sense ROM, is there any that actually work?
anddep said:
why start a new thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534479
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to remind guys for who is searching THE BEST hero rom.
So..

[Q] android 2.3 for G1

Can 2.3 rom be used on my old G1 ??????
maliamalia said:
Can 2.3 rom be used on my old G1 ??????
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Probably.
But not yet. Trust that Cyanogen and his army of coders will crack the secrets and port the ROM.
But not yet.
On a related note, hooray for the 6.1 Stable release!
That is all.
which is more stable and fast, CM6.1 or MTtest3 ??
maliamalia said:
which is more stable and fast, CM6.1 or MTtest3 ??
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Think they're about the same. The MTTest3 is good but I prefer CM6.1 for all the extra goodies that come it it. CMParts etc.
Okey, I will try CM6.1.
I don't think android 2.3 will run fast as 2.2:
2.2 is a port of official froyo from mytouch3G, so it's very optimized.
I hope in android 2.3 on G1, I would try to develop something to port 2.3 but I don't know how can I do.. I think by the official sdk but.. mmh
(I'm a programmer but I never developed roms for phones)
Cyanogen said on Twitter that he currently has no plan to port 2.3, as the OS will most likely be GPU-driven.
Honestly, his 6.1.0 release is pretty great.
XBrav said:
Cyanogen said on Twitter that he currently has no plan to port 2.3, as the OS will most likely be GPU-driven.
Honestly, his 6.1.0 release is pretty great.
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yeah but now our device is really going to be out of date. :/
Well I think it's about time to upgrade to G2 or Nexus S. There's lot of great phones out there. G1 is rocking long enough I think, it stopped to be fast and responsive from Donut update or so...
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failed to flash CM6.1,
my G1 with the 2708 kernel and 1.33.0013 SPL.
help me!!
maliamalia said:
failed to flash CM6.1,
my G1 with the 2708 kernel and 1.33.0013 SPL.
help me!!
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congratz. wrong thread and wrong section.
flash cm6.1
flash gapps
flash latest pershoot kernel
next time go to the right section and provide logs etc
I think we must try to port android 2.3 to our g1!
BTW if 2.3 is too slow for our phones, I'll stay on 2.2, no problems!
I'm waiting for a perfect phone:
slide qwerty
800x480px amoled/superAmoled/superLCD
ram>512
rom>1gb
slot SDXC rolleyes: )
cpu>1ghz (and good performance.. the number isn't sufficient )
possible cpu with dual core
excellent gpu
5mpx camera with flash and 720p 60fps recording (also 1080p 30fps would be perfect ) with good optic and NO HTC PINK HALO
google experience or sense
I ask too much?
Do you think I'll keep G1 for the rest of my life?
It can probably be adapted from the AOSP source, but since it has some new gui thingy w/e that is, it will never be the same on our devices, whats the point in downgrading from something that works quite well atm, 2.2.1
Cyanogen's cm6 isn't one of those roms which have the myTouch base of T-mobile. It's pretty much coded from the Nexus Rom and ASOP.
Sent from my Plain Biff Dream using XDA App
Point of updating to 2.3
Well, for me there's one big reason why I'd like to upgrade to 2.3 - Native SIP.
What I don't understand is why Native SIP hasn't been built-in from 1.0! Now there's a flood of poor and mediocre SIP apps on the market, none of which are very good.
I sure hope 2.3 comes to the G1!
hernick said:
Well, for me there's one big reason why I'd like to
I sure hope 2.3 comes to the G1!
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But for now I can't see any developer works on 2.3..
When froyo and other old android upgrade has been released a lot of people began to develop test roms (in the beginning unusable roms )
Now I can't see nothing
Kishtsang said:
Cyanogen's cm6 isn't one of those roms which have the myTouch base of T-mobile. It's pretty much coded from the Nexus Rom and ASOP.
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yea, but there are divers from the mytouch, would have been foolish to keep using hacks when was real drivers out there.
maliamalia said:
which is more stable and fast, CM6.1 or MTtest3 ??
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Having just switched from MT3G-test3 to Cyanogen 6.1, I would have to say they're pretty comparable. If you put my feet to the fire, I'd say MT3g-test3 is slightly faster, especially in regards to installing apps from the market. But the goodies available in Cyanogen are so good that...
Aargh, it's hard to decide. I have a nandroid+ext of both, so I can swap back and forth at will. I might spend a few days with each to see which one I enjoy using more, and report back. One thing making it harder... I have a white G1, which historically has had problems with Cyanogen. But the latest seems to be working a lot better than previous releases.
nagash91 said:
But for now I can't see any developer works on 2.3..
When froyo and other old android upgrade has been released a lot of people began to develop test roms (in the beginning unusable roms )
Now I can't see nothing
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Don't worry, Google has only released Android 2.3 yesterday. Give the developers some time!
GoodDamon said:
Having just switched from MT3G-test3 to Cyanogen 6.1, I would have to say they're pretty comparable. If you put my feet to the fire, I'd say MT3g-test3 is slightly faster, especially in regards to installing apps from the market. But the goodies available in Cyanogen are so good that...
Aargh, it's hard to decide. I have a nandroid+ext of both, so I can swap back and forth at will. I might spend a few days with each to see which one I enjoy using more, and report back. One thing making it harder... I have a white G1, which historically has had problems with Cyanogen. But the latest seems to be working a lot better than previous releases.
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SuperBler is really fast too. You should Check it.

Official Handler of CM7 D/S

So in case you did did know, Cyanogen has said that they are not dropping D/S support but rather Cyanogen himself was stopping the managing of the D/S branch (he was previously the one in charge of D/S). This is why we are seeing these "unofficial nightlies"
Cwirl has come out and said that the team is looking for someone to manage the D/S branch. They want someone who uses the D/S as their daily.
Has anyone taken this position?
I am hoping Firerat or Ezterry will be the white knight for D/S
Come on some one please.... take charge for D/S
I dont want to make my "Dream" a paper weight which is not wrecked actually ;-)
I believe that Ezterry or Firerat would do that.
A lot of you are familiar (and have asked) why we don't just have/ask Ezterry and Firerat to take over maintainership. While I like this idea, it would be up to them to decide if they wanted to do so, and, personally, I wouldn't want to feel like CM squashed their creativity and personal efforts. They are doing their own thing right now, and deserve all the props to them for it. If they want to take part in CM, then awesome, we'd welcome it. But thats gotta be a choice they make. Their work can be found on XDA, and is currently your best chance of a 100% Gingerbread install for the DS line.​
via:ciwrl at CM
Why does etzerry or firerat have to belong to CM?
they are developing there own rom right now. How would belonging to CM officially help them in any way?
konnspiracy said:
Why does etzerry or firerat have to belong to CM?
they are developing there own rom right now. How would belonging to CM officially help them in any way?
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Not to mention I like their stuff way better than anything CM.
konnspiracy said:
Why does etzerry or firerat have to belong to CM?
they are developing there own rom right now. How would belonging to CM officially help them in any way?
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Personally, I would love to see etzerry/firehat to work with CM. So far I've observed all they have to do is maintain an overlay and the rest almost happens by magic and by itself (such as AOSP bugfixes, cm-features, etc)
Also, joining forces in a such scenario like it is now would work better for D/S users.
I hope that they commit their progress to CM also because it looks like that ezterry work is working better than current CM D/S development. It would be better for everyone since there are a lot of CM-users that freakly test every CM-nightly. More people = more fun
However, I do understand ezterry and firehat position. I believe that working apart from CM allows faster development and to get away from cyanogen and cyanogenMOD project shadow...
Personally, now ezterry/firehat development away from CM looks to work great, but in the feature I think I trust more in a big, constantly maintained project like CM
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Personally, I would love to see etzerry/firehat to work with CM. So far I've observed all they have to do is maintain an overlay and the rest almost happens by magic and by itself (such as AOSP bugfixes, cm-features, etc)
Personally, now ezterry/firehat development away from CM looks to work great, but in the feature I think I trust more in a big, constantly maintained project like CM
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I have never been a fan of CM and done all I can to stay away from his roms and bases but that is just personal choice and the base for my next bit.
I hope Terry and Firerat stay away from the CM group and keep as they are which is independent coders that work well together as this offers users an alternative to CM. It appears if the G1 community lost these two fine individuals then what choice would we have on anything? CM bases roms are all over the forums in some incarnation or other but for those of us that prefer a different flavour in ASOP builds or builds not built around CM then we would loose that one thing that makes this phone so great and as they say variety is the spice of life.
@Terry & Firerat - Simply, thank you.
Kinda mixed feelings. i think there's a lot to be gained from joining forces, in terms of faster access to bug reports and bug fixes. More eyes on the code can only be a good thing, particularly at the kernel level. At the user level, with the various customizations, not sure if there's much to be gained.
But I gotta admit, I really like the notification bar power widget, and miss it when I'm on a plain Froyo build. (Which right now is only on my TP2. And if I could get a decent/stable CM6.1 for my TP2, I'd run it happily.)
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@Terry & Firerat - Simply, thank you.
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+1 !
shadowch31 said:
I hope Terry and Firerat stay away from the CM group and keep as they are which is independent coders that work well together as this offers users an alternative to CM. It appears if the G1 community lost these two fine individuals then what choice would we have on anything? CM bases roms are all over the forums in some incarnation or other but for those of us that prefer a different flavour in ASOP builds or builds not built around CM then we would loose that one thing that makes this phone so great and as they say variety is the spice of life.
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They are all based on CM because CM provides what developers need to do whatever they want. An actively maintained source. That's even one more reason that, independently of Terry/Firehat developing is own ROM or not is always a plus to merge their achievements on CM.
Note that I am not against/favor whatever should Terry/Firehat in particular do. They do whatever they want! I am just using as an example to discuss general android/xda/etc development philosophy
Theres no reason they need to merge. Its not like either team doesn't openly share their source code. New code and bug fixes flow both ways. And in the long run, its always better to have more choices.
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Theres no reason they need to merge. Its not like either team doesn't openly share their source code. New code and bug fixes flow both ways. And in the long run, its always better to have more choices.
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+1 I'm scared if they join CM we will never get their insightful answers to our questions. How many times has Terry or Firerat been the one to shed light on your problem? Most everyone here has benefited or been enlightened by these two devs. I can't speak for everybody but Cyanogen has never wasted his time on my problems. I hope they do whatever they want to do. It's time to buy new phones and I want the phone that these two devs move to next.
I took up Tmobile on their offer for a free G2.....i feel kind of like a traitor.....but i love the phone
hopefully they do keep updating the phone along with cm...im keeping my old one and will continue updating and playing with it.....
and i highly recommend the g2
I agree with shadow... I think the days of CM for the G1 should come to an end. It has been a wonderful run, but yes...it is time for something else for these phones...
Here is what I posted in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916770
"Who cares? I mean really.. I'm not trying to be a douche by any means. But think of this... We have TONS upon TONS of stuff for the G1 already... Metamorphs to make it "look" like Gingerbread, ton of apps, etc...
Why not let the newer phones have their chance too??
I say we take the software that has been bestowed upon us and improve it. Make it fast, more stable, etc. I mean really... Do we honestly need 45 ringtones, 27 notifications, news and weather, and all that extra "bloatware" in these ROMS right out the gate?
I think maybe we should focus on making a ROM or ROMS smaller, faster, nicer, etc. I know I for one don't "need" all that extra stuff in the ROM... And if I did, I could install it my SD card, keeping the ROM lightweight, fast and stable.
Now, I am not developer, but I damn sure am NOT afraid to try new stuff on my phone. Look at my sig... The ROM I'm running is stupid fast and stupid stable, and I still stripped out over 10MB of "extra" stuff, and still have all the functionality that it was meant to have."
**Just an example of some of the "extra" things we could do to these phones... Think of the PSP field... People, including myself, have modded these to the extreme! Lighted triggers, etc... Check out my sig and click on the last link...
Awesome discussion going on here. I really like the ezterry and firerat's work for gingerbread on D/S. These two developers are really superior developers in the android community. They both work at the source level producing totally authentic roms. Also Looking at cm they are also still at the nighlies and we are at alpha. It does take time to port something new and at the speed we are going is really amazing we had basically nothing working at the beginning. Now almost everything works on the ezterry's gingerbread for D/S. What we need now is just some speed enhancement and some bugfixes. I believe over no time we will have a really good gingerbread rom that can be a daily driver. Also there are people working on the CM7 for dream sapphire as well. I am sure we will definately see CM7 stable on our devices as well even if it takes some more time.
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I have never been a fan of CM and done all I can to stay away from his roms and bases but that is just personal choice and the base for my next bit.
I hope Terry and Firerat stay away from the CM group and keep as they are which is independent coders that work well together as this offers users an alternative to CM. It appears if the G1 community lost these two fine individuals then what choice would we have on anything? CM bases roms are all over the forums in some incarnation or other but for those of us that prefer a different flavour in ASOP builds or builds not built around CM then we would loose that one thing that makes this phone so great and as they say variety is the spice of life.
@Terry & Firerat - Simply, thank you.
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I take a whole different approach. Cyanogen really has been here for us for a very long time. He was not the first, nor he will not be the last great modder. But you cannot say that the impact CM made is not significant. May I ask, one year before now, what mod did you run on your phone? Cyanogen? Dwangs? Enoms? Bens? WG-build? Kings? Hero? I'm willing to say that you probably tried all of them. They all had their ups and downs, but do you know which one of them is still on my nandroid? CM4.2.15.1. For me, that was the most stable build.
Many phones came out since then and devs came and went. Some were skilled wonders like cyanogen and some just copied and pasted bits and pieces. I particularly remember Eclair. It was basically kick ass when we had the first builds out even though everything was broken. I used to use king's 1.9 as it was the fastest. Slowly, everything started falling into place. Live wallpapers were taken apart and optimized, features were added, NCommander helped to reverse engineer the camera, 3D drivers came in (which F*cked up the Live Wallpapers, a problem we still have to this day lol, just try to run the nexus LWP on OE and tell me how crazy smooth it is). The only problem left was the camcorder. By then OpenEclair led by Wes Garner was the best. Finally 1.3 came out and it was amazing. Wes opened a new thread on the very promising OE2.0, but that quickly faded. From that point, I can't remember how much time has passed. People were over the thrill of eclair and going back to donut. Then out of nowhere CM comes out with the test builds of CM5.0.7. EVERYTHING WORKED! Noone else was able to do this. He wrote drivers from scratch. Just ask Jubeh, he was never able to make the camcorder work on his AOSP build. The kernel was a much newer 2.6.32, performance was amazing. It really breathed new life into my phone.
By the time of Google IO when Froyo dropped by, CM was at 5.0.8 and he decided to expand his team from just the Nexus, Droid, and G1 to 7 more devices like the desire and the hero. That is probably when our phones started to suffer a little. Instead of being more tailored to our specific device, it became more tailored to the higher end phones. CM6 finally rolled out and everyone was super exited again. The system required more resources than Cyan's hacked together drivers could deliver. People started complaining, and this is when the complaints about Cyanogenmod really started coming in. When the MT3G OTA rolled out a few months later people in the G1 section had a little bit of a sour taste from CM. People complained and moaned, and hell, some guy even cursed him out on twitter for an issue with MMS (who remembers "FIX THE ****ING GODDAMN SMS"). I think that was the last straw for Cyan, he put the G1 more as a backburner than a daily driver, I mean, Who would you invest time with, a community that cares for your work (Nexus) or one that complains and curses him out (G1)? If we were a little more patient and more supportive I'm sure most of you guys complaining now really wouldn't be.
Since then I've got a G2. I love the phone, and I love CM. Gingerbread is awsome, neocore tops at 58 FPS, quadrant easily reaches 3000, the works. I've really been removed from the G1 section since then, so I can't really comment on ezterry's roms (Somehow my G1 has an exploded battery lol, and I haven't used it in weeks).
I really did not mean to write a story, and thanks for those who took the time to read it, and sorry if anything is out of chronological order. I guess the moral of this whole long story, is that you should treat your devs with respect. You guys are sitting with 3 year old hardware, and just because someone isn't here anymore to defend his work doesn't mean you **** on his work.
Lol, I'm too melancholic, so I 'm just gonna list the things I remember most about this section.
-my first time flashing a radio. My phone rebooted and I was going totally crazy
-use the search! Don't post in development! Your mom is ugly! posts
-"bricking my phone" I spazzed out when I accidentally did a fastboot wipe and my phone wouldn't turn on LOL
-first time I saw the droid red eye boot up on my phone and using LWP's
-the whole incident with Kingklick when he used his winzip skills to copy jubeh's rom, and ended up with all his threads closed. Poor guy (where we got "kanged from")
-Using CM6 for the first time with all the extra options under CM parts!
-Before Firerat the genius came up with custom MTD, we had to run hero roms with system apps in both system and data, and everything else on sdcard!
I better stop now, its getting late lol. I guess my sig sums it up best:
"Thanks to all the devs that make me love my phone!"

Android 2.3

I realise that the alpha/beta of ICS has been released but why is it there is no development on 2.3 roms at the moment. Sure people want to have the best ICS rom but seriously I am sick of the constant crashes and "this application isnt supported by your device" on the Android market.
Hopefully the developers focus on the actual stable roms and not silly pre-releases.
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I realise that the alpha/beta of ICS has been released but why is it there is no development on 2.3 roms at the moment. Sure people want to have the best ICS rom but seriously I am sick of the constant crashes and "this application isnt supported by your device" on the Android market.
Hopefully the developers focus on the actual stable roms and not silly pre-releases.
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To each his own! I completely disagree, I don't understand what you're asking for, 2.3 roms seem good to go and stable as it is. What else do you want done? Also, I for one don't consider it "silly" pre-releases. Even though ICS has yet to be complete it's far better than what GB has been for me. ICS is also the one that needs some work on, hence the crashes and stuff (I don't experience any at all). If GB is working without crashes and is STABLE, what updates are you looking for? If it's working great, then you don't need to update! Although there are some apps which are yet compatible, it doesn't affect users such as myself.
daftdrew said:
I realise that the alpha/beta of ICS has been released but why is it there is no development on 2.3 roms at the moment. Sure people want to have the best ICS rom but seriously I am sick of the constant crashes and "this application isnt supported by your device" on the Android market.
Hopefully the developers focus on the actual stable roms and not silly pre-releases.
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Considering I haven't experienced a single crash on Baad's InsertCoin ICS ROM, I have no idea what you are talking about. I suppose one could also question why the Windows Mobile and Palm ROM development forums haven't seen much action...what more is there to do to working stable ROMs? Or better yet, why bother
KAwAtA said:
To each his own! I completely disagree, I don't understand what you're asking for, 2.3 roms seem good to go and stable as it is. What else do you want done?
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Speaking for myself, I'd like a stable (i.e. not alpha) release of CM7 for my new Sensation. I agree with the OP, if the CM devs are blocked waiting for HTC to release ICS, why not polish off a stable CM7 release? I'm in the process of pulling down source to see if I can help. I'm an embedded Linux developer during the day, but being new to android development and only having one phone (and a wife and kids), I'm not expecting anything but getting my feet wet by the time ICS comes out on this phone. I'm grateful that CM exists, just wish there was a non-alpha mod for my new phone.
elceedub said:
Speaking for myself, I'd like a stable (i.e. not alpha) release of CM7 for my new Sensation. I agree with the OP, if the CM devs are blocked waiting for HTC to release ICS, why not polish off a stable CM7 release?
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Well I guess they did not want to waste time polishing CM7, where in 1-2 months time, everyone will be expecting them to release CM9 for sensation. Let's say they release a super stable CM7 by the end of Feb, people will be using it for only a month before switching to CM9. Might as well wait for ICS.
forzanetti said:
Well I guess they did not want to waste time polishing CM7, where in 1-2 months time, everyone will be expecting them to release CM9 for sensation. Let's say they release a super stable CM7 by the end of Feb, people will be using it for only a month before switching to CM9. Might as well wait for ICS.
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Speaking for myself again, I'd prefer to use a solid CM7 until CM9 is just as stable. It was more than 1-2 months before CM7 stable enough to put on my MT4G. But I understand it is the culture here to regularly flash new stuff, even if there's no good reason to, and I'm not knocking that, I've done it too. Which is why I'm either returning this phone for a SGS2, or getting to work on my own (wow, 4.5 hours to sync the CM GB repo!).
elceedub said:
Which is why I'm either returning this phone for a SGS2, or getting to work on my own (wow, 4.5 hours to sync the CM GB repo!).
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While waiting for the CM code to sync, I went over to htcdev.com and clicked their comments link to "Tell HTCdev what YOU want". I explained that I would like full source code for my HTC phone like LG and Samsung provide for their phones (at least the diffs from the open source code). I didn't really expect to get it, and was not surprised when the reply was no - they only release the Linux kernel source because they're bound to by license. But it made me realize that I had purchased the wrong phone. So I returned it. I was pleasantly surprised to find that the SGS2 is quite functional and performant out of the box, and the source easily available from Samsung. So long HTC...

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