In my opinion, the XT720 is a piece of junk. I'll take the Galaxy S over the XT720 any day. As far as "hacking" goes, you can only root it, overclock it, install app2sd, and install JIT. There are no custom ROMs because of the locked bootloader. The phone isn't smooth at all even when overclocked at 1000 MHz (Unless you have like two homescreens and 1 widget). The only good thing about this phone is that it has a 8MP camera with Xenon flash. Take note on spiderx_mm's post, he has everything covered.
If you'd like, I'll sell you my XT720 if you're in the Toronto or Ottawa area. It's lightly used and has no scuffs or knicks.
Beako said:
In my opinion, the XT720 is a piece of junk. I'll take the Galaxy S over the XT720 any day. As far as "hacking" goes, you can only root it, overclock it, install app2sd, and install JIT. There are no custom ROMs because of the locked bootloader. The phone isn't smooth at all even when overclocked at 1000 MHz (Unless you have like two homescreens and 1 widget). The only good thing about this phone is that it has a 8MP camera with Xenon flash. Take note on spiderx_mm's post, he has everything covered.
If you'd like, I'll sell you my XT720 if you're in the Toronto or Ottawa area. It's lightly used and has no scuffs or knicks.
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u proof me wrong dude!..here my 7 home screen...
The XT720 is quite laggy even at 1000MHz. I absolutely despise this phone.
Hi heat my XT720 all ppl have 2.2 yeah all and my XT720 don't even Moto think to get it out i have post to Moto on facebook and i say to do them i heat Moto and even my friends thy never will buy Moto what ever the do if thy give it for me for free i will not take it i have order Nexus S so bye Moto for ever ...........
This phone is a piece of ****. Im using a motoroi(korean version of Milestone) this phone is slow as hell on 2.1. After waiting for how many months this is what i got? All i got is a hotspot tha i dont use. I expect sonething new or speed boost. Speed boost especially. But its getting worst. F.... This phone. I tried all the tweaks. I even overclocked it to 1.2 ghz. But the phone just reboot randomly. Now im using it just for sms and call. Even during a call its so annoying that the screen was so sensitive the i always touched the mute button accidentally..
That's weird. You say you have Motoroi, but the Motoroi has 2.2 atm. Please explain
I totally love this phone. It's the best phone I had to date (I swear). Especially the camera rocks and unlike others, it works extremely good here and no pixels at all like some suggest
I don't care for 2.1 to be honest. 2.2 is a free update so if they don't wanna give it, then fine, I don't care. I don't need 2.2 anyway. If there would be a reason to have 2.2, then I say it's for the apps 2 SD, 'cause my internal memory is almost full So I leave it to Dexter to make an awesome 2.2 ROM and count me in as a tester for the rom (-hint- MotoBlur is awesome -hint- )
I mean the phone is slow on 2.1. I thought that they fix it on 2.2. Yah its weird that`s what i thought when i got tjis phone. But my korean friend has a galaxy s. And i played with it. Man! My motoroi was way far than this. Anyway maybe im wrong. Maybe the milestone model was more faster than motoroi.
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I mean the phone is slow on 2.1. I thought that they fix it on 2.2. Yah its weird that`s what i thought when i got tjis phone. But my korean friend has a galaxy s. And i played with it. Man! My motoroi was way far than this. Anyway maybe im wrong. Maybe the milestone model was more faster than motoroi.
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I'm not sure what the issue is. I have my XT720 (NA version) overclocked to 1000mhz on 58 vsel and find it to be quite stable and speedy (I also have JIT installed). My experience that anything over 1000mhz begins to get unstable and you have to jack the vsel way up (more battery usage). Also, replacing the homescreen launcher really helped (Launcher Pro, ADW, etc) because the stock one really kind of sucks.
If my carrier comes out with the Nexus S in March as the rumour is - I might move over to that as I'm sure it will continue to be supported and none of the this 'staying on 2.1' BS will happen. But we'll see if and when my carrier does that...and how much it will cost.
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If my carrier comes out with the Nexus S in March as the rumour is - I might move over to that as I'm sure it will continue to be supported and none of the this 'staying on 2.1' BS will happen. But we'll see if and when my carrier does that...and how much it will cost.
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$700 to $800 CDN
$699.99 at best
now back on topic, the XT720 at 1000 Mhz runs really nice, even on stock 720 Mhz runs good with Launcher PRO or Go Launcher EX
heavy 3D games runs fast, everything else runs great
so i really have no idea of those 3 people that have complained about the phone.
they might have not configured something right
Indeed AllGamer.
The phone is really fast here when overclocked to 800 Mhz or 1000 Mhz. Angry Birds lags somewhat at 800, but at 1000 is runs great. Also HD Video Recording runs the best at 1000 Mhz, but I don't care. Also, I noticed that when HD Video Recording at 1000, the battery doesn't use more than at stock. And 800 also doesn't use more overall.
I really love this phone and I won't be selling it for a long time (and my next one will also be a Motorola, I'm a Motorola-fan for years now, although I had a few other phones though between my previous Motorola and this one).
So people: please configure it right, 'cause this thing is really speedy when overclocked
I have to admit, that my xt720 runs absolutely fine..angry birds and any other game i've tested are totally smooth - only hd-video recording becomes a bit stuttering ( is this correct english? ^^) sometimes. And until now no JIT or apps2sd is installed
Sent from my Milestone XT720 using XDA App
wat nid to imporved in xt720 froyo is:
- camera software (increase img quality)
- custom kernel (enable swap space, prepare for future games)
- greater space for cache (enable installation of battle bears -1.apk)
- stock oc to 1.1ghz (battery life can extended by setcpu)
- DEfy's stock music player
- xda xt720 special bootscreen (required a talented graphic designer)
xt720 ll be perfect..
wrong thread...sorry.
It's possible that the Motoroi is not as stable as the XT720 at 1GHz. The XT720 has a TI OMAP3440 (officially rated 800MHz) and the Motoroi has an TI OMAP3430 (officially rated 600MHz).
Stay away from this phone. The small memoy 256MB is really laggy when you have more than 1 widgets and/or running multiple applications (running overclock at 1000 already). Also, 2.1.... who would want a smartphone that doesnt keep up? Not exactly smart is i?
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Stay away from this phone. The small memoy 256MB is really laggy when you have more than 1 widgets and/or running multiple applications (running overclock at 1000 already). Also, 2.1.... who would want a smartphone that doesnt keep up? Not exactly smart is i?
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Trolling?
Seriously, the memormy may be small, but you're exaggerating here. It's not laggy at all with more than 1 widget and multiple apps open (even w/o overclock). And 2.1, alright, but Dexter is working on the 2.2 port and he's gonna throw out a bèta one of these days. So 2.2 is on it's way and if the kexec crack starts to work good, then we could also have newer android versions later this year. So updates are not a problem for now.
To the TS I'd say: throw away that Wave and get yourself the XT720 It's a really good Android-phone and like AllGamer says: not the top of the line, but it sure can keep up and the camera is really good, hardware too and it just does what it does and that's what a phone needs to do IMHO: do what it does.
But indeed, check the MHz to see if it's compatible.
With JIT, we beat stock Samsung Galaxy. It is unfortunate to be cheated by Motorola, but this phone is a good piece of hardware and sure a head-turner. I have done what Link2SD did, move apks to an "ext3" partition of SD card, and with 1GHz OC, it feels snappy all the way.
I won't recommend someone to buy it new (just because of Moto's stupidity), but if happen to have it, do not regret.
i've been using xt720 for almost 4 months and before that i used milestone, galaxy s and some of LG and sony devices from friends... i can tell u the best touch-screen is in Moto(after apple ofcourse), the hardware is awsome, screen is a REAL scratchresist, the cover is strong and the backside cover is stable + looks classy. software is android as u know and always getting improved(we're about to have froyo from dexter-thnx to him-with all other functions). the speed? it workes so fine withOUT oc. for HD record or even faster actions u can OC it to 1ghz without any problem and even with oc battery life is almost same! besides that, if u turn off all wifi-3g and other web connections and 3d games stop showing ads inside nothing has lags at all!!
if u dont know how to use a new device, dont say bad things about it!
i have samsung galaxy spica (i5700) which has only 168mb of ram and 800mhz processor clock,with several widget its still running well,still has a smooth scrolling,compare with xt720,xt720 device is fastest than samsung spica although its has only 50mb of free ram on system
Before anyone chastises me: I know that quadrant scores can be manipulated, and shouldn't be relied on to determine if your setup is adequate. I'm talking about my own personal experiences here.
I've only had an android phone for a month or so (my Captivate), so I can't claim to be experienced with it. However, like I did when experimenting with Linux distros (a long, long time ago --- settled on Slackware), I've been playing with all the ROM's available for the Captivate.
Initially, it was to get a feel of the differences in the ROM's themselves and that mostly had to do with user interface. However, I soon figured out that some were faster than others 'native', and then I discovered the Quadrant Scores.
So, I started checking Quadrant scores with each ROM under similar conditions (Wifi on, only a couple of apps running, no overclocking, etc.). This is a really horrible addiction -- I keep thinking that maybe the next ROM, or the next kernel update will make the score better - even though I've noticed that a better Quadrant score doesn't necessarily have much bearing on the performance of the Captivate.
The result: I haven't stuck with a single ROM for two days running.
I seem to have settled down recently, but we'll see.
This is a tongue-in-cheek rant, incidentally...this whole experience has been addictive.
Hi . I made 2 quadrant tests : with eclair2.1 and cm7.1.0 . With eclair2.1 i get 800-900 pcts and with cm7.1.0 1600-1700 . I didn't overclock or other setting made .
Yeah, but that's what I mean - a small change can result in better scores, so where do you stop?
So far, on my Captivate, I've found that I get the best scores with
1) Fasty III - 2500+
2) Dlev 4.2 (Talon) - 2250+ (Dlev 5 doesn't like my Captivate)
3) Biffmod (CM7 based) - 2000+
4) Miui 1.10 + Glitch kernel - 1900+
Here's the issue: I love the UI of Miui - it seems to have the best themes available and everything works smoothly. The stock browser on Fasty III is laggy, for example. The games I play work best on Miui and Fasty.
So, the Quadrant scores don't necessarily have any 'real world' meaning. Most of the lagfixed kernels seem to take care of the I/O rates, improving the scores.
Still, I can't stop trying to find a 'better' setup.
PM'ed reinbeau to close.
Quadrant scores mean nothing, I can enter a single code and get over 3000 on a stock RFS partitioned ROM with no OC/UV (Which is incredible) but it means nothing because the Quadrant app is outdated and wasn't meant for the Hummingbird processor, nor Gingerbread on the phones, or dual core.
seems the higher my score gets the worse my phone runs.
Its all about balance
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Hi all.. rooted my s2 rocket and wow what a difference.. removed a bunch of bloatware and ran some quick tests in the house and got 520ms at 1512mhz..
I am fairly new to all of this and was wondering if this is good speed?
I can't wait to get some custom roms..
Rooted or not the processor is clockd at 1.5 ghz that test you want to run is a benchmark. And and you can overclock with a kernel. Look in development.
Firstly, I'll apologise if this is in the wrong section.
Secondly, I apologise you've had this question asked dozens of times and I know there's threads right above where I'm typing.
Onto my question.
I'm fairly new to things with mobile phones as I've been stuck on the Symbian SE Satio for the last two years.
I've just rooted my SE Xperia Play (UK Region, so R800i iirc?) and I'd like to flash to the kernel/rom (Don't crucify me) that works correctly ; In that I'm able to use my camera and Wifi (Or at least, have the ability to with further flashing) and allow me to overclock my Snapdragon.
The reason I'm wanting to overclock the phone, is such games like GTA 3 have a stuttering issue, I'd wager it's down to the lowish specs of the phone and hope clocking the CPU could remove that stuttering, as from reading around it seems the snapdragon has quite some headroom (I've seen 2GHZ being branded around, though I'm more than happy with 1.6GHZ, though 2GHZ wouldn't go amiss )
Since I'm new to phones, when I overclock the CPU, would that then overclock the GPU with it? Or is their a way to overclock the GPU? (I've also seen that branded around before)
Now, onto the overclocking, I see kernels/roms such as doomlords, but reading through instructions I'm getting absolutely bamboozled and losing track.
I've done DOS flashing before with GPU's, if it's anything like that at all? (Again, don't crucify me yet!)
Cheers.