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- Fully 100% SuperD 1.9.3
- Running the latest WG-Kernel v3-beta[10mb RHack / CFS]
e.g. This new kernel gave OpenEclair users a tremendous speed performance boost in the latest 1.2.2
- Removed DangerSPL Requirement
- CompCache is enabled by default at 16mb
- Adjusted Scheduler Values to help support the CFS Scheduler
- Adjusted LowMemKiller Values to help support apps that should be kept alive
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Download: http://www.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=wesgarner/ROM/&file=SuperD193-blk-WGKv3beta.zip
I made this for fun since someone had made a version of SuperD based off my kernel from back well months ago lol - thought I should give a try at working on the ROM
This is a pretty one time thing. If people like the speed differences a lot, someone talk to Ben about working the kernel into SuperD
I will be monitering this thread for feedback
This have the RAM hack?
CaptainShanks said:
This have the RAM hack?
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yup yup, sorry just added that
will keep you posted. i got the update during class so it's something i'll be playing with the next couple days. thanks brah.
Starting it up now.
Edit: Right off the bat i was able to go from flashed to homescreen in about 3 minutes.
Everything looks smooth so far, i'm in the process of installing some apps. Should be fun
Testing out now, thanks Wes!
Feedback - will add to this list
ADB is working (not currently working on RHack versions of 1.9.3)
CC works fine
BT works
BenchmarkPi is a LIL bit faster (between 12970 - 13650 for WG-Kernel) will test orig tomorrow
Overall: Seems speedy so far, gonna be hard to tell the difference as Ben's kernel is already pretty quick
EDIT: For those of you that are lazy like me, you CANNOT simply pull and flash the boot.img as it breaks CC. Just FYI
[ROM] Super D 1.9.3 with [Official] WG-Kernel v3-beta(10mb RHack)
I have been using this all day and it is running really smooth without any problems at all. It is very fast and I have not noticed any glitches yet, I'm loving it.
flashing now...
chris6551 said:
I have been using this all day and it is running really smooth without any problems at all. It is very fast and I have not noticed any glitches yet, I'm loving it.
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All day?
chris6551 said:
I have been using this all day and it is running really smooth without any problems at all. It is very fast and I have not noticed any glitches yet, I'm loving it.
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Just a question, but how have you been running this all day. It was just released like ~40min ago. If you mean SuperD 1.9.3 then your in the wrong forum, this is just for the WG-Kernel for SuperD193
Is wipe recommended coming from SD 1.9.3?
So this is the SuperD everyone is talking about with wes's kernel added and I DON'T need Danger SPL to flash it? Tell me I have this correct. I've been wanting to try this rom out but have tried to avoid the DSPL route. Any partition lay out requirements?
no its the same as superd but just with dif kernel we are looking for differances to compare to, as I use cyanogen kernel in mine and ya benchmark speed test etc on this ROM
bbuchacher said:
no its the same as superd but just with dif kernel we are looking for differances to compare to, as I use cyanogen kernel in mine and ya benchmark speed test etc on this ROM
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this.. is... QUICK!
with the original 1.9.3 With ram hack, i had this weird dragging effect, and slow from the get go, but this version is QUICK!
bbuchacher you should DEFENATELY use this kernel, or find some way to make your kernel faster than this, great work ben and great work wes, you guys are geniouses
Im also noticing an increase in performance.
Without doing much tests, the system feels faster with this kernel at least when changing apps and switching between desktops. BTW, is there a way to do a more "objective" speed test?
Thoughts on the need to wipe coming from Super D 1.9.3 to this???
So I guess because of the ram hack, I wouldn't be able to play all the cool games.
Works like a charm. Much faster then the standard kernel.
ive searched all Donut ROM
and i keep getting mixed answers
i know there isnt any great games but i like some of them
and i also heard that not having the ram hack makes the phone
run smoother because of the available graphics on the phone.
any recommendations?
p.s. only DONUT rom no eclair thanks!
SuperD 1.9.3
Get the SuperD 1.9.3 w/o the ramhack. 3D games run great on it.
SJJTJJ said:
Get the SuperD 1.9.3 w/o the ramhack. 3D games run great on it.
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Yes, I also modified the no ram hack of superD_1.9.3, and the 3D games run smoothly, very good!
huhaifan1 said:
Yes, I also modified the no ram hack of superD_1.9.3, and the 3D games run smoothly, very good!
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what do you mean by modified?
Donut roms:
BlueMagic (27,7 fps with neocore benchmark - sound off, 24,3FPS with sound)
SuperCSDI probably about the same (BlueMagic is based on that)
FastTest gaming edition
SuperD without ramhack is slooow in comparison to those.
not shure about wgarner's kernel.
The very best would be vodafone magic 32b... but its cupcake.
domenukk said:
Donut roms:
BlueMagic (27,7 fps with neocore benchmark - sound off, 24,3FPS with sound)
SuperCSDI probably about the same (BlueMagic is based on that)
FastTest gaming edition
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is that listing in order from best being on top?
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is that listing in order from best being on top?
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It's my own opinion. haven't benchmarked fasttest properly but it felt a bit slower when shooting in armageddon squadron. overall very playable anyway.
Would like to see a benchmark of it. download neocore from the market
domenukk said:
It's my own opinion. haven't benchmarked fasttest properly but it felt a bit slower when shooting in armageddon squadron. overall very playable anyway.
Would like to see a benchmark of it. download neocore from the market
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koo ill try them
domenukk said:
SuperD without ramhack is slooow in comparison to those.
not shure about wgarner's kernel.
The very best would be vodafone magic 32b... but its cupcake.
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I want whatever you're smokin....
prove to me how the other roms you listed are faster running games?
Saying thanks to those that have helped you would be nice!
I would have just told you that you had posted in the wrong section and should be in Q&A :\
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Saying thanks to those that have helped you would be nice!
I would have just told you that you had posted in the wrong section and should be in Q&A :\
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hahaha i was gonna say thanks but was busy messing with this roms and
i also noticed that you always have something negative to say hahaha
thanks again though i dont wanna get the clown mad he's scary looking
would jit compiler make it better?
JIT makes the apps open and operate something like 3x faster (I think) but is still very buggy and can cause some FC errors from what I have read and is far from stable as of yet.
But if your games are still not playing properly on the suggested roms then a possible solution but be prepared for a few hiccups.
shadowch31 said:
JIT makes the apps open and operate something like 3x faster (I think) but is still very buggy and can cause some FC errors from what I have read and is far from stable as of yet.
But if your games are still not playing properly on the suggested roms then a possible solution but be prepared for a few hiccups.
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koo
graci appreciate the info
Super D 1.9.3 Non Ram Hack Ver. is definitely the one to get if you're into gaming.
Im running it now even though I have no major android games running but notice the emulators (nes,gb,gba) run more smoother and less lag.
Take chances and install that Rom and you will be set.
legend221 said:
Super D 1.9.3 Non Ram Hack Ver. is definitely the one to get if you're into gaming.
Im running it now even though I have no major android games running but notice the emulators (nes,gb,gba) run more smoother and less lag.
Take chances and install that Rom and you will be set.
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ill make sure to try it im chckin all of the with the neocore benchmark
edit:so with fasttest no ram hack 2.8 i get a 22.4 on the benchmark
how is that?
ilaf0106 said:
ill make sure to try it im chckin all of the with the neocore benchmark
edit:so with fasttest no ram hack 2.8 i get a 22.4 on the benchmark
how is that?
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24.3 on blue magic
but i guess you didn't set cpu speed to the max and operater to performance... Will help a frame or two.
shadowch31 said:
JIT makes the apps open and operate something like 3x faster (I think) but is still very buggy and can cause some FC errors from what I have read and is far from stable as of yet.
But if your games are still not playing properly on the suggested roms then a possible solution but be prepared for a few hiccups.
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Not true.
If anything, it makes Java parts faster. But 3D-games are mostly C anyway.
Plus JIT uses up more RAM what is desperately needed on our phones...
So no increase here. rather the other way round imho...
/edit: I'd love to have a benchmark table.
please benchmark superD, Cyanogen, SuperCSDI and Fasttest.
Also some older builds maybe....
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24.3 on blue magic
but i guess you didn't set cpu speed to the max and operater to performance... Will help a frame or two.
/edit: I'd love to have a benchmark table.
please benchmark superD, Cyanogen, SuperCSDI and Fasttest.
Also some older builds maybe....
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How would I set the CPU speed and operator
ilaf0106 said:
How would I set the CPU speed and operator
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Setcpu or overclock widget from this board/from market.
I've got 28.3 fps with airplanemode without sound on blue magic.
But i doubt that those are realistic gaming speeds. firstly there is no input. Input needs to be handeled what costs speed. Plus its a heavily optimized demo by qualcomm. I mean come on... they want to prove that their chips are worth buying... no game designer has enough time to get it running as fast as this one minute demo...
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/edit: I'd love to have a benchmark table.
please benchmark superD, Cyanogen, SuperCSDI and Fasttest.
Also some older builds maybe....
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I just got 25.3fps with sound on SuperD 1.9.3 + NoRamHack + JIT + 96MB Swap + 528Mhz min/max.
Here's some benchmarks...didnt do Neocore on all of them though, but will from now on(only 1.6 roms).
Can anybody tell me how to get this? About 2 hours ago i flashed cyanogen 5.0.7 and ive been trying to get the Ram Hack but its just not working. So if you guys could tell me how that would be nice
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Can anybody tell me how to get this? About 2 hours ago i flashed cyanogen 5.0.7 and ive been trying to get the Ram Hack but its just not working. So if you guys could tell me how that would be nice
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none so far. just an overclock hack.
since im a noob i dont know what overclock hack is. can you explain?
yes, i would like to know of this overclock hack as well, i have overclocking apps on my mytouch (rooted) but is this hack refering to something you flash, or an add-on specificly for Cyanogen¿
Thank you in advance
~Dark
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since im a noob i dont know what overclock hack is. can you explain?
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It makes your phone run WAY faster (in most cases) at the whim of battery life though... never had an issue with the battery, my Mytouch (1.2) with CM 5.0.7 test 5 made it so my battery is like... uber good, very efficiant power management on that rom (once you tinker with it) my old stock Donut FW (1.6) was eating the crap out of my batt, had to recharge once or twice a day, now its every other day! even overclocked!
*** Should have probably said there is no HACK for this yet, only overclocking apps (if im wrong please... flame me lol)
~Dark
Im new to all of this. Can someone please send me step by step directions on how to root my, my touch 3g with the latest
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just a word of advice i would google before you ask questions or post problems. there are lots of guides out there this is the one that i used.
I am new so i cant post links but just go to google and search "magic to cyanogen"
also i would recomend a non-test or experiemental rom first. you will save yourself a headache
welcome to mod-ville.... its like farm-ville only cool.
AndroidKaboom said:
Can anybody tell me how to get this? About 2 hours ago i flashed cyanogen 5.0.7 and ive been trying to get the Ram Hack but its just not working. So if you guys could tell me how that would be nice
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I don't believe this is going to be a fruitful idea, if possible. Cyanogen himself has stated that Eclair is heavily dependent on the GPU and that it would hurt performance to take away GPU memory.
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I don't believe this is going to be a fruitful idea, if possible. Cyanogen himself has stated that Eclair is heavily dependent on the GPU and that it would hurt performance to take away GPU memory.
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Yeah, RAM hack's a bad idea here.
I had the RAM hack working on an earlier test version of CM5 (Eclair). While I saw a huge difference and performance boost using it on CM4 (Donut), using it on 5 seemed to actually slow it down a hair.
I'm running cognition 2.4.1 on my captivate and it's great unless my memory is low and then it's laggy and slow. 304mb of available ram for this phone is a joke so i need a way to manage my memory so that i have at least 100mb of ram free always or else it slows down. Does anyone know of an app that does that? i don't want a task killer. I'm getting sick of having to always use level 2 ram clear on the integrated froyo task manager. Also, I'm running launcher pro.
Android. You don't need to manage your memory; Android does this effectively and efficiently. Google the topic and you'll find a lot of information.
Get one of the i9000 roms with the setiron kernel, it has 343mb of memory available.
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Get one of the i9000 roms with the setiron kernel, it has 343mb of memory available.
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Oh i see. Is it as fast as cognition 2.4.1 and has ext4 lag fix imbedded? Can you give me the link please?
skinien said:
Android. You don't need to manage your memory; Android does this effectively and efficiently. Google the topic and you'll find a lot of information.
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Obviously it doesn't because I always have to click the level 2 ram clear or else it runs like a htc hero. I don't want it to use more than the amount i specify. If my phone had 512mb of ram than this wouldn't be an issue, mine shows 304mb free. What a mess.
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Oh i see. Is it as fast as cognition 2.4.1 and has ext4 lag fix imbedded? Can you give me the link please?
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Faster than cognition, it has universal lagfix included. Take your pick...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818030
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829500
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829245
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831542
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821323
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803569
peachpuff said:
Faster than cognition, it has universal lagfix included. Take your pick...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818030
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829500
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829245
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831542
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821323
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803569
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Wow! Thank you so much! This phone is amazingly stable and fast now, the extra 36mb of ram helps a lot.
Are there any other existing kernels for sgs4g besides the ones on the first page?
Reason I ask is because I'm trying to use a swap partition, but it seems these kernels are not swap enabled.
Why has nobody bothered to compile any custom kernels for the sgs4g? I am trying myself, but no luck so far.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
S
sconsylman said:
Are there any other existing kernels for sgs4g besides the ones on the first page?
Reason I ask is because I'm trying to use a swap partition, but it seems these kernels are not swap enabled.
Why has nobody bothered to compile any custom kernels for the sgs4g? I am trying myself, but no luck so far.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
S
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I'm not sure I can answer the whole question as to why we don't use swap, but I can say that we just got the GB kernel source, and people are still working on it and haven't posted anything.... yet. Patients...
But, I noticed that the Bali 3.3 kernel (KD1) also did not have swap. Maybe drhonk and Krylon360 tried it and swap didn't help or improve performance.
The rest of the kernels you'll find are either stock leaks, or modified stock leaks. Samsung doesn't like swap I guess. Or swapping on SD/MMC sucks hard.
I know in newer kernels (3.0 and greater), there is a new driver for mtd-swap, but it is still very new and I doubt anyone will use it in production for quite some time.
Using swap on Android is not such a great idea, it goes a little bit against native Android memory management. Then benefit can be that more programs will stay in memory and won't need to reload, but the phone will become a lot slower, even with small partitions like 32MB. With 128MB or higher it will become almost unusable. Ask me how I know
I think the need for swap was gone once phones started coming with 512mb+ ram. I used swap all the time (also required for GB) on my MT3G, since it only had like 192mb ram. It never made the phone work faster at all, in fact it usually slowed down over time running, it really just made it so stuff didn't force close due to running out of memory. This shouldn't be needed on this or any new phone.
So Bali 3.3 is a GingerBread build? Didn't know that. Kinda figures I guess. Thought I had already tried it though and couldn't bootload. I'll give it another whack. His stuff is awesome of course. I'm not demanding it, mind you, just trying to see why it would not be included. Kind of like not having a /proc/config.gz file in some Android builds, don't really know the reason why they're not included (results in not able to mount ubuntu builds, anybody have these let me know .
This appears to be the only source of kernels for our phones, no swap support enabled though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194032
(Thanks dr.honk!)
As for the swap partition not making sense, I have a hard time understanding why it wouldn't just provide a static and beneficial extended memory source. I am familiar with the memory management features of Android, and actually don't use any additional task killers as I've found them to be conflicting often.
But Android is built off the Linux system/kernel, so why does dedicated swap work with a large OS but not the smaller but similar Android OS/kernel?
Thanks!
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As for the swap partition not making sense, I have a hard time understanding why it wouldn't just provide a static and beneficial extended memory source. I am familiar with the memory management features of Android, and actually don't use any additional task killers as I've found them to be conflicting often.
But Android is built off the Linux system/kernel, so why does dedicated swap work with a large OS but not the smaller but similar Android OS/kernel?
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In short, the phone will become annoyingly slow.
Swap works on kernel level. Android will see this as additional virtual memory, so it will keep more programs alive and won't unload them. For example a browser will hog a lot of memory causing other programs' memory pages to be swapped. Kernel doesn't differentiate between programs, so, for example, the launcher memory pages will be swapped. Or even the active program you are currently working with can have part of its memory in the swap. Next time you try to do something (like scrolling), the memory pages will have to be brought back. Flash memory is not particularly fast (in fact for swap it is very slow), so you can we waiting for some noticeable time for many actions to complete. You'll have a lot of jerky movements, delays, temporary freezes, forget any smoothness. It is just annoying, trust me, I've tried
Ah, ok so the swapping is noticeably slower than the ram on the phone (512mb). I would not figure that it would be too much of a factor, especially on class 6+ sd cards. So there is absolutely no way of coding the system apps to be ram based, and everything else to be swappable? I'm surprised that this has not been done, but I assume that the reason is the expanding active ram capacities on new phones.
So were you experimenting on the sgs4g, or was it another model? And if so, what were you using? Froyo swap enabled kernel?
The HTC Thunderbolt has some similar specs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106420
More ram 768mb vs 512mb, more internal storage 4g vs 1000mb, but uses a 1g single core scorpion processor instead of our 1g single core hummingbird. Some are having good luck with this device and swapping (taking all "facts" with a grain of salt). There is more like this too, with a number of market apps to support swapping: Swapper2, Swap for Root, Diaper swappers forum (oops, that one doesn't work for some reason).
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So Bali 3.3 is a GingerBread build? Didn't know that. Kinda figures I guess.
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No, Bali 3.3 is Froyo.
I did try it on this phone few months ago when I was still on Froyo with Bali kernel. Don't try to load in on GB, wait until DrHonk makes a new one, he actually may soon.
I personally can't imagine how anybody could use swap on Android and like it, but everybody's mileage varies. The benefit of using swap wouldn't be speed but rather less program reloads. For example you browse the web when a call comes. You answer the call, maybe go to address book, or take some notes, or send some pictures, etc. Everything will be a little slow and jerky, but with swap enabled you have better chance that when returning to the browser it will still be on the same page without reloading from the server.
Just checking again to see if anyone knows of any KJ6 kernels with swap enabled, as I'm currently getting memory warnings from running Backtrack 5 non-gnome. It works pretty well otherwise (besides the lack of space, thanks obsolete fat32).
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Just checking again to see if anyone knows of any KJ6 kernels with swap enabled, as I'm currently getting memory warnings from running Backtrack 5 non-gnome. It works pretty well otherwise (besides the lack of space, thanks obsolete fat32).
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No swap. what version of the kernel are you running?
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No swap. what version of the kernel are you running?
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It has [email protected]#9 signature on it. I know we had spoken briefly about swap. What linux are you running?
I know that the Debdroid program is successfully running swap with good results, but it won't mount right with the specific scripts (our phones working mount scripts are different, I linked them in my linux post). I can take some coding from that programs scripts but of course it won't work without the kernel having swap built in.
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