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Touch Pro Differences: Unlocked, Verizon, Sprint, AT&T

What are the diffrences in the branding
for the three USA carriers
Verizon
Sprint
AT&T Fuze
Which is the most untached?
Which the most crippled?

Pinguino1 said:
What are the diffrences in the branding
for the three USA carriers
Verizon
Sprint
AT&T Fuze
Which is the most untached?
Which the most crippled?
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Without a doubt the Verizon version is the most crippled. They cut the RAM to 192, CPU is slower and took out the accelerometer. Plus it costs more.

where is everyone getting this "verizon took out the accelerometer" crap?

cellulararrest said:
where is everyone getting this "verizon took out the accelerometer" crap?
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One of the main stream gadget blogs posts about it, but I looked on HTC's site regarding the Verizon version and looks like that part is still intact. Everything else though still stands.

Pinguino1 said:
What are the diffrences in the branding
for the three USA carriers
Verizon
Sprint
AT&T Fuze
Which is the most untached?
Which the most crippled?
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Uhhh, you are atempting to directly compare the 'crippleness' of an AT&T or "unlocked" GMS phone to CDMA models?
For starters, you'd best declare that you are aware that CDMA devices are absolutely LOCKED to their branded carrier --- unless a third-party carrier is willing to accept another's device. Unless one is content with their carrier that may certainly be crippling status of a phone.

Keystone said:
Uhhh, you are atempting to directly compare the 'crippleness' of an AT&T or "unlocked" GMS phone to CDMA models?
For starters, you'd best declare that you are aware that CDMA devices are absolutely LOCKED to their branded carrier --- unless a third-party carrier is willing to accept another's device. Unless one is content with their carrier that may certainly be crippling status of a phone.
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Hi Keystone,
Of course I know the differences of GSM and CDMA technologies.
What I'm attempting is to compare features added or removed from the the original HTC. LIke I'm aware AT&T changed the keyboard layout.
Do you know what other features have been modified by those carriers?

tribalmunky said:
Without a doubt the Verizon version is the most crippled. They cut the RAM to 192, CPU is slower and took out the accelerometer. Plus it costs more.
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I believe the CPU still the same. I read somewhere a guy posted wrongly that it was a 400mhz. As far as specs, it is still the MSM201A 528MHZ.
I haven't seen the Sprint one, but apparently is the more intact of all.
I had in my hands the Fuze in an AT&T store, the Keyboard has a numbers pad ovelaying the alpha keys. But I verified it has accelerometer but slow or unresponsive
I think actual verizon, sprint and AT&T owners can tell what changes were made to their devices.
If I ever decide to go for one of those I don't want surprises.

Is the one coming out on Verizon include all those people and the dude with a clip board following you around, or did they remove that too?

HTC Touch ProVS US Touch Pro/Fuse/Sprint/Verizon
The Unbranded Touch Pro as you would Call it Has Dual Cameras For Video Confrencing And has No Bloatware Like Us Versions of the phone meaning there's no Network Software loaded on the phone other then HTC Apps.Now Some of the US Versions of the Touch pro Are A little Different First being none of the us Versions Have Dual Cameras as Video Confrencing is not on Any Us Network at this time But i did post a app called ivisit that is real Video Confrencing you can download on xda Search www.ivisit.com But Anyways..lol The Att Version of the Touch pro AkA Fuse Is just like the HTC Version keyboard layout was changed And the Soft touch Back was Droped The Sprint Back of there Touch pro They Diden't Even keep the Diamond Shape Back its All Smoth And Red So you See us networks Try not to change the phones to much but Somtimes they End up Droping alot of Features IE Verizons Version of the Touch pro Not kool What they Did to that phone....lol Att by far Has it right on the money With the Fuse Just no Soft touch back.......So now you see OH And Htc Version is not US 3G yet

nucentury08 said:
The Unbranded Touch Pro as you would Call it Has Dual Cameras For Video Confrencing And has No Bloatware Like Us Versions of the phone meaning there's no Network Software loaded on the phone other then HTC Apps.Now Some of the US Versions of the Touch pro Are A little Different First being none of the us Versions Have Dual Cameras as Video Confrencing is not on Any Us Network at this time But i did post a app called ivisit that is real Video Confrencing you can download on xda Search www.ivisit.com But Anyways..lol The Att Version of the Touch pro AkA Fuse Is just like the HTC Version keyboard layout was changed And the Soft touch Back was Droped The Sprint Back of there Touch pro They Diden't Even keep the Diamond Shape Back its All Smoth And Red So you See us networks Try not to change the phones to much but Somtimes they End up Droping alot of Features IE Verizons Version of the Touch pro Not kool What they Did to that phone....lol Att by far Has it right on the money With the Fuse Just no Soft touch back.......So now you see OH And Htc Version is not US 3G yet
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I assume there's some information in there somewhere...hmm

Pinguino1 said:
Hi Keystone,
Of course I know the differences of GSM and CDMA technologies.
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Ahh right, sorry...just on this forum some are very confused when concerning CDMA.
The Telus & Bell releases are spot-on the same as the internal hardware of the Sprint model. The exterior just isn't the red -- flat black smooth battery covers instead.

What phone to get for Christmas?

Hey guys,
I currently have a T-Mobile G1 but I think its time to get a new phone . I can pretty much get any phone I want just as long as its on T-Mobile, Verizon, or AT&T. I only want phones with the Android OS also, and of course be able to root it for a better experience. I have three on my list so far, ranked in order from most wanted to least:
1. Sony Xperia x10 - it seems to be like the greatest phone ever.. 1 GHz processor , but I don't even know when it's coming out so id have to wait until Q1 2010 (that's fine though). Oh and I heard this ships with Android 1.6..hopefully we'd get an update for 2.0+
2. Motorola Droid - pretty good phone too, and it's already out so I'd be able to get it for Christmas.
3. Motorola Cliq - its an okay phone to me but the only reason I would get it is if I have no other options.
Any other Android Phone suggestions? Thanks!

What about Hero?

What about Acer A1 aka Liquid?
I have Acer F1 (same hardware) and I 'm totaly satisfied with it and considering to buy an A1 too.

freco said:
What about Acer A1 aka Liquid?
I have Acer F1 (same hardware) and I 'm totaly satisfied with it and considering to buy an A1 too.
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Thanks. It looks pretty good. Do you know what carrier its coming for?

^I beleave no carrier, u just buy it unlocked.
Also, have you looked at htc mytouch 3G? Are you in the States?

galaxys said:
^I beleave no carrier, u just buy it unlocked.
Also, have you looked at htc mytouch 3G? Are you in the States?
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Oh okay, thanks. Yea.. I don't like the MyTouch 3G.. it's basically the same as my G1 but with no keyboard lol. Yea I'm in the states .

Good luck buying an unlocked phone in the states.
T-Mobile uses its whacky UMTS frequency and AT&T uses 850/1900 ... pretty much all unlocked phones are 900/2100.

Any potential HTC or Motorolla android phones coming to AT&T in the near future?

Before anyone says anything, I'm not here to talk trash about the Captivate. The Captivate was / is my first phone that led me into the android gateway.
I love the Captivate, but I was just wondering if there's any info on AT&T getting an android phone from HTC or Motorolla is the near future? (excluding the HTC aria and Motorola backflip).
I'm still a Captivate owner, but I would like to know my options if I do ever decide to return it to AT&T for a full refund. I'm currently on my 3rd Captivate because the first one had random shut downs, 2nd one had a dark yellow tint, and this one is perfect besides the fact that the 3 button download/recovery does not work.
If anyone has any insight on upcoming phones, please chime in. No flame wars please, thanks.

you may or may not have heard about the HTC press release a few days ago, theres 2 new versions of the desire, one has a keyboard with a 3.7in screen the other is basically a gsm version of Sprints evo, it remains to be saw which carriers will offer what

rodimus_prime said:
you may or may not have heard about the HTC press release a few days ago, theres 2 new versions of the desire, one has a keyboard with a 3.7in screen the other is basically a gsm version of Sprints evo, it remains to be saw which carriers will offer what
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You mean the HTC Desire HD and HTC Desire Z?
I thought the HTC Desire HD was another version of the HTC Evo, but made for the rest of the world. I believe the frequency band would work for AT&T for voice, but as for data, it would be edge only, not 3G. That is what I read, I may be wrong though.

[Q] Droid 2 Global

Hey so far i haven't been able to find myself an adequate android phone for my first smartphone purchase (I'm an android junky and dev, just never got around to buying one that fit my needs) However now there are a couple contenders on the market. They have to fit t-mobile frequencies (I live in canada, and the only good network is wind which is basically t-mobile) and can't have too many issues. So I've recently stumbled across the spec sheet for the Motorola Droid 2 Global edition and was wondering if it supported t-mobiles frequencies considering the huge amount of radios it already does have.

More than likely it will work. Its a GSM capable phone, soo...yeah. You should check out the Nexus One too, its older but its still hanging up there with all the newest phones.

Yah the nexus one was very interesting and it was the original dev phone, idk i'd rather just be closer to the cutting edge and that 1.2ghz proc plus hardware keyboard really entices me lol

Complete speculation here, but I'd be surprised if it has the 1700/AWS band for 3G. Most 'global' phones have some combination of 850/900/1900/2100. I sure hope it does have AWS though

karnovaran said:
Complete speculation here, but I'd be surprised if it has the 1700/AWS band for 3G. Most 'global' phones have some combination of 850/900/1900/2100. I sure hope it does have AWS though
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So do I wanna buy it so badly but refuse to use Telus/Bell(I'm canadian) the mytouch or g2 is the only real alternative but the mytouch just bugs me somehow

Douglerful said:
So do I wanna buy it so badly but refuse to use Telus/Bell(I'm canadian) the mytouch or g2 is the only real alternative but the mytouch just bugs me somehow
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I messed with a G2 the other day and it was great. Very solid build, excellent keyboard, vanilla Android... not to mention, it already has a massive developer base.

Thats good to hear i heard there were some sketchy things about the build quality of the hinges

I open and closed it several times and it seemed as solid as it needs to be. I think some people might just be too anal.

Hahahahahha Gee I hope i'm not one of those people cuz if i can't get my hands on a n unlocked Droid 2 Global thats my choice

Ha you can't go wrong either way. The Droid 2 is a tank. My only concerns with the Global would be how much compatibility it will have with D2/DX hacks and whether sbfs will be leaked. Development is much more sparse on these new Motos than HTCs like the G2.

Yah i've looked through the forums and htc's seem to attract a lot of dev interest, meh more room for me in the moto department then

I'm pretty sure it won't have AWS. USA/Canada are the only ones who use it, and they have CDMA networks. Why would Verizon need to roam on any AWS network?
According to leaked specs of the Droid Pro, it has UMTS 850/1900/2100
Since its specifications are very similar to the Droid 2 Global, I'm guessing (and hoping) it also has the same bands so that I have the option of buying it and using it on AT&T.
I don't know why they went with these bands for the Pro since Europe uses 900/2100 and the Pro is missing 900. I don't think 900 is very common though, and Australia uses 850MHz so that may be why.

Is it possible and recommendable to buy the prepaid Verizons droid 2 global instead of the full price one, so you save 150 dols, and then unlock it and use it with another GSM carrier outside the US? Or should I buy the ones that are for sale on ebay?

Douglerful said:
Hey so far i haven't been able to find myself an adequate android phone for my first smartphone purchase (I'm an android junky and dev, just never got around to buying one that fit my needs) However now there are a couple contenders on the market. They have to fit t-mobile frequencies (I live in canada, and the only good network is wind which is basically t-mobile) and can't have too many issues. So I've recently stumbled across the spec sheet for the Motorola Droid 2 Global edition and was wondering if it supported t-mobiles frequencies considering the huge amount of radios it already does have.
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For T-Mobile 3g I would go for the My Touch 4g or the Samsung Vibrant or The Nexus One. The Nexus One is still cutting edge. I have a Nexus One and a Droid 2 Global and the 1.2 processor doesn't really feel different. The Droid 2 Global also has barley any support here and absolutely no roms. I Love my Nexus One and I think it is better than any other smart-phone iv seen. If you want a great phone with amazing support and roms I would go with the Nexus.

Droid 2 GLOBAL - unsuccessful ROOT!
I was able to get a pre-retail Droid 2 Global a few weeks ago.
I wanted to Root is and use the Sapphire ROM. So I tried every ROOT method I could find using my MAC = no avail!
Then I tried every ROOT method I could find using a PC = NO AVAIL! (1-2-3, One click, etc)
* The only thing that happened was the phone got real hot and the program got stuck at "searching for device" - & yes I downloaded the Motorola drivers and the updated SDK pack.
Any thoughts on this?

You need to run the root apps again consecutively not always does it work the first time and all of the apps do the same exploit and there have been Droid 2 Globals that have rooted you just need to stick with it. Also sometimes it helps to reboot your phone after a failed attempt. It just depends on the phone. I remember when root first came for the D2 and we didn't have apps we had to run all the commands from ADB and do it manually.

Still no dice to Root Droid 2 Global
I just got this:
ww.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-global/96381-droid-2-global-root-custom-recovery-sim-unlock-tutorial.html[/url]
I am going to give it a whirl after I get home from work tonight. Fingers crossed - if this doesn't work, I'm all set with trying to root this thing.
-d

D I O R D said:
I just got this:
ww.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-global/96381-droid-2-global-root-custom-recovery-sim-unlock-tutorial.html[/url]
I am going to give it a whirl after I get home from work tonight. Fingers crossed - if this doesn't work, I'm all set with trying to root this thing.
-d
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Be VERY careful!!! Droid 2 and Droid 2 Global ROM's are NOT compatible. If you flash Droid 2 rom on D2G, phone will not boot and as there is no SBF available yet, you are looking into expensive paperweight until SBF is released.
BTW - phone is rootable. But refrain from flashing anything before you have way to get out if phone gets bricked. You have been warned.

Thanks for the heads up...
After minimal research, I realized that.
My plan was to flash clockwork recovery? Do you think that won't work?
It will be hard, but I can endure waiting for a "GLOBAL" ROM -
Cheers,
-T

D I O R D said:
After minimal research, I realized that.
My plan was to flash clockwork recovery? Do you think that won't work?
It will be hard, but I can endure waiting for a "GLOBAL" ROM -
Cheers,
-T
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Even if you have a D2 G clockwork regularly won't work because the D2 only has a bootstrapped recovery. I don't have a D2 G but the D2 G is based on the D2 and on the D2 you should only install things with koush's bootstrap. I believe flashing normal clockwork will brick your D2 G. I wouldn't flash anything though before the D2 G's sbf is out. Unless you don't mind an expensive paperweight until then.
For all D2 G owner's: read everyting you can about the way that things are done with the D2 so you will knw what you are doing when ROM's and things come for the D2 Global.
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will Sprint or other carriers get the Nexus-S?

Just wondering if Google will try again to have this new Nexus out on all 4 major carriers? That would be perfect and bring some much needed competition in the market. If your favorite phone is available on all carriers then you just chosse the best service and price. I think Apple should that too with their iPhones. Would force carriers to be better priced.
But specifically wondering if Sprint will get the Nexus-S soon? I dumped my EVO for the N-S and love the phone just not thrilled with T-Mobile spotty service and practically no service inside my house or other buildings. Where as the EVO worked non stop perfect inside anywhere even basements.
Thank you.

Very unlikely since the whole "Nexus" brand was to deliver a device that's unlocked, and supports international bands, therefore it's GSM.

It's unlikely, but I have my fingers crossed!
One of the reasons I think Google went with Samsung with this Nexus is because HTC failed to deliver on their main goal for the Nexus One: to create a carrier-ambiguous device that can be used on any carrier(obviously a CDMA version on CDMA network, and GSM on GSM network blahblahbalh).
Samsung proved that they had that ability to bring their Galaxy S lineup to each major carrier.

unremarked said:
It's unlikely, but I have my fingers crossed!
One of the reasons I think Google went with Samsung with this Nexus is because HTC failed to deliver on their main goal for the Nexus One: to create a carrier-ambiguous device that can be used on any carrier(obviously a CDMA version on CDMA network, and GSM on GSM network blahblahbalh).
Samsung proved that they had that ability to bring their Galaxy S lineup to each major carrier.
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I'd love a Nexus S type device on Verizon.
Do you think Google blamed HTC for not delivering a CDMA phone? I always thought HTC just made the phone, and Google worried about getting it "out there." I thought Verizon just wasn't interested, at the time, in a phone that Verizon didn't control the software on; that's always been a major complaint with VZW by geeks (like me) who want to control what's on their phone and what's not.

On sprint I have the ns with a keyboard, but sprint is so slow delivering updates compared to google that we're all still waiting for 2.2, let alone 2.3
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A_Flying_Fox said:
On sprint I have the ns with a keyboard, but sprint is so slow delivering updates compared to google that we're all still waiting for 2.2, let alone 2.3
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Yeah, that's the allure of the actual NS over any of the Galaxy S phones (Epic, Vibrant, i9000, Fascinate, Captivate), the direct AOSP first and fast from Google, and written specifically to that hardware.
The build quality and "feel" of my NS is far superior to my i9000, not that it's bad in the other devices, but they really got it right with the NS.

A_Flying_Fox said:
On sprint I have the ns with a keyboard, but sprint is so slow delivering updates compared to google that we're all still waiting for 2.2, let alone 2.3
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Not if you're on a rooted Epic we're not