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AT&T Options?

I am stuck using AT$T as my provider currently. I want another android phone. I have a Moto Droid for work and love it.
Since the backflip is a POS, what other phones can be brought over to AT&T and work with 3G? I saw the progress on the iPhone, but would really rather a physical keyboard.
Thanks

AT&T only has 2 android phones available. The Dell Aero and the Moto Backflip. The Backflip being the one with a hard keyboard. They have HTC listed on their android page, but who knows when/if that will happen. I think I remember reading that they made Bing the default search provider for the Backflip. I don't know AT&T's policy on bringing unlocked phones onto their network, but you could get the international version of the Hero or something similar. I just rooted my Sprint Hero with the Fresh 2.0d ROM and it is like having a new phone. Once all the Sprint bloatware was removed it runs twice as fast. Unfortunately, none of the unlocked android phones support AT&T 3G, so you will be stuck on 2G. For a hard keyboard, your only option is an unlocked Motorola Milestone(newegg is out of stock).

www.google.com/phone

Or get a Rogers Dream or Motorola Milestone from eBay if you want a physical keyboard and 3G on AT&T. Then it's just a matter of unlocking and rooting.
Of course, you need to be careful with Rogers. They have "patched" their Dream in such a way as to require a JTAG to root.

PanzerGeist said:
Or get a Rogers Dream or Motorola Milestone from eBay if you want a physical keyboard and 3G on AT&T. Then it's just a matter of unlocking and rooting.
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I am pretty sure the Milestone does not support AT&T 3G, only T-Mobile. The unlocked Nexus will support AT&T 3G, except for the minor hardware design problem where if you hold the phone the right way you can block the 3G radio. (See youtube, search "Nexus One 3G Problem")

lineman78 said:
I am pretty sure the Milestone does not support AT&T 3G, only T-Mobile. The unlocked Nexus will support AT&T 3G, except for the minor hardware design problem where if you hold the phone the right way you can block the 3G radio. (See youtube, search "Nexus One 3G Problem")
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telus milestone does i think....

eismanxda said:
I am stuck using AT$T as my provider currently. I want another android phone. I have a Moto Droid for work and love it.
Since the backflip is a POS, what other phones can be brought over to AT&T and work with 3G? I saw the progress on the iPhone, but would really rather a physical keyboard.
Thanks
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HTC has 2 devices coming (one with a keyboard) Dell has one (dunno about the kb) and rumor has it that the Nexus One will be subsidized sometime soon for ATT.

Symmetric said:
HTC has 2 devices coming (one with a keyboard) Dell has one (dunno about the kb) and rumor has it that the Nexus One will be subsidized sometime soon for ATT.
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where did you get your info?

telus milestone does i think....
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This is correct, it does support AT&T 3G.
There is also a Nexus 1 designed to work with AT&T's 3G... but of course if you want a physical keyboard, no luck there.
HTC has 2 devices coming (one with a keyboard) Dell has one (dunno about the kb) and rumor has it that the Nexus One will be subsidized sometime soon for ATT.
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where did you get your info?
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The Dell offering (The "Aero") does not feature a physical keyboard.
wireless.att . com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-sales/promotion/aero.jsp
One of the HTC offerings (also called "Scorpion": androidspin . com/2010/04/28/htc-spotted-getting-fcc-testing-possibly-android/
I'm unaware of a 2nd HTC offering at this time...
P.S. Sorry for the non-hyper links. Too n00b to get URL posting rights

Next "big thing" from T-mobile?

So I was really set on getting an iphone for a long time now because I feel as though no phone has matched it's touch sensitivity, I can notice the menu's catching up to my touch on the nexus one and other android phones I have checked out. I gave it some thought and realized that since I am on t-mobile, I would want 3g and maybe giving up the touch sensitivity for faster internet is worth it. Problem is, Nexus One is no longer in production. What is next? There's a rumor that the Iphone 4 may come to t-mobile but...for now, what should I get? Preferably not HD2 since I would prefer Android OS.
Thanks guys

You want the Samsung Vibrant.
It is freaking hot.
Plus...
T-Mobile is almost half the price of AT&T
T-Mobile gets better service than AT&T (where I live)
T-Mobile has faster 3g than AT&T (once again, where I live)
And Android > iPhone any day.
Plus the iPhone 4 has some serious antenna issues that aren't worth bothering with.

Checking it out, are they still being made with AMOLED? And how bad is it in sunlight? I heard some phones are switching over to SLCD?

AMOLED wipes the floor with conventional LCD.. both in color depth and in power consumption... so its actually an upgrade from LCD.. also i find that the vibrant screen is every bit as sensitive as the iPhone. i think it may even be a touch more accurate. i have both an iphone and the vibrant.. so i can tell you from experience.

andershizzle said:
You want the Samsung Vibrant.
It is freaking hot.
Plus...
T-Mobile is almost half the price of AT&T
T-Mobile gets better service than AT&T (where I live)
T-Mobile has faster 3g than AT&T (once again, where I live)
And Android > iPhone any day.
Plus the iPhone 4 has some serious antenna issues that aren't worth bothering with.
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he didn't ask which carrier was better so please reserve from bashing and starting flame wars =\ thought i do share in your iphone/apple hatred =P
current devices on tmobile:
-Mytouchslide: general balanced phone =] this is the phone to get if you don't want a huge phone in your pocket but something you can rely on everyday
-Samsung Galaxy S (Vibrant): beautiful phone and currently the fastest phone on the market
yet released phones:
Tmobile:
-G1 successor (HTC Vision or G1 Blaze)
-Mytouch 3g HD
-Motorola MOTOROI
Unknown:
-LG Optimus Q and Z (they're sexy beasts)
-Dual Core Snapdragon handset
-Windows Phone 7

the Dual Core Snapdragon handset
Is there anymore information on the Dual Core Snapdragon handset?
i have heard of the G1 Blaze, basically a N1 w/ keyboard, which would be nice. but i waiting to see more spec's on it.
But what i really want to know about is the Dual Core Snapdragon handset.

noodlecups said:
Checking it out, are they still being made with AMOLED? And how bad is it in sunlight? I heard some phones are switching over to SLCD?
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I haven't yet used it in sunlight, just got it yesterday and I love it so far. I'll be going out today Was up all night with it and ended up sleeping til 5PM hehe
Also, it's a SUPER AMOLED. and it's GORGEOUS. Nicest screen I've ever seen on a device. It really is a killer phone if you're looking for a touch-only iPhone alternative.
Also, the Vibrant is rooted so custom ROMs and full customization is available
Danni3 said:
he didn't ask which carrier was better so please reserve from bashing and starting flame wars =\ thought i do share in your iphone/apple hatred =P
current devices on tmobile:
-Mytouchslide: general balanced phone =] this is the phone to get if you don't want a huge phone in your pocket but something you can rely on everyday
-Samsung Galaxy S (Vibrant): beautiful phone and currently the fastest phone on the market
yet released phones:
Tmobile:
-G1 successor (HTC Vision or G1 Blaze)
-Mytouch 3g HD
-Motorola MOTOROI
Unknown:
-LG Optimus Q and Z (they're sexy beasts)
-Dual Core Snapdragon handset
-Windows Phone 7
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Wasn't starting any wars: T-Mobile merely does better where I live.
Tried AT&T for a month, didn't get as many bars.
Also, I did tests: T-Mobile's 3g is like rocket speed compared to AT&T here in Pittsburgh. Even T-Mobile's EDGE is way better than AT&T's.
Not to mention, half of my calls on AT&T got dropped. I was using a Motorola Backflip. Now the only dropped calls I get with T-Mobile are occasionally when talking to my GF who gets bad service on Cricket at her house. Lol.

thats the problem, you had the backflip.
Even the reps in the AT&T store that i frequent say that it was a poorly designed very hard to use handset, and that on average 50% of them came back.

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Is there anymore information on the Dual Core Snapdragon handset?
i have heard of the G1 Blaze, basically a N1 w/ keyboard, which would be nice. but i waiting to see more spec's on it.
But what i really want to know about is the Dual Core Snapdragon handset.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/qualcomm-ships-first-dual-core-snapdragon-chipsets-clocking-1-2g/
http://gizmodo.com/5443976/qualcomm...dragon-smartphones-are-about-to-go-hyperspeed
expect it by the end of the year lol
if any of you somehow get your hands on the first else phone I will call you god lol

Danni3 said:
yet released phones:
Tmobile:
-G1 successor (HTC Vision or G1 Blaze)
-Mytouch 3g HD
-Motorola MOTOROI
Unknown:
-LG Optimus Q and Z (they're sexy beasts)
-Dual Core Snapdragon handset
-Windows Phone 7
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ah yes, I just found out about the mytouch3gHD and the g1 blaze. I think I will be waiting for those two as I can start saving up money for now. Haven't heard much from the 3g HD and the g1 Blaze but I heard the 3gHD will be the one that will reach fastest internet speeds of all phones on the market? Also, are there enough information between the two to have a bias towards one than another at this time? Right now, I just like the mytouch3gHD only based on the fact that it doesn't have a dedicated qwerty (i like my touchscreen to be as touchscreen as possible lol).

[Q] Droid 2 Global

Hey so far i haven't been able to find myself an adequate android phone for my first smartphone purchase (I'm an android junky and dev, just never got around to buying one that fit my needs) However now there are a couple contenders on the market. They have to fit t-mobile frequencies (I live in canada, and the only good network is wind which is basically t-mobile) and can't have too many issues. So I've recently stumbled across the spec sheet for the Motorola Droid 2 Global edition and was wondering if it supported t-mobiles frequencies considering the huge amount of radios it already does have.

More than likely it will work. Its a GSM capable phone, soo...yeah. You should check out the Nexus One too, its older but its still hanging up there with all the newest phones.

Yah the nexus one was very interesting and it was the original dev phone, idk i'd rather just be closer to the cutting edge and that 1.2ghz proc plus hardware keyboard really entices me lol

Complete speculation here, but I'd be surprised if it has the 1700/AWS band for 3G. Most 'global' phones have some combination of 850/900/1900/2100. I sure hope it does have AWS though

karnovaran said:
Complete speculation here, but I'd be surprised if it has the 1700/AWS band for 3G. Most 'global' phones have some combination of 850/900/1900/2100. I sure hope it does have AWS though
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So do I wanna buy it so badly but refuse to use Telus/Bell(I'm canadian) the mytouch or g2 is the only real alternative but the mytouch just bugs me somehow

Douglerful said:
So do I wanna buy it so badly but refuse to use Telus/Bell(I'm canadian) the mytouch or g2 is the only real alternative but the mytouch just bugs me somehow
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I messed with a G2 the other day and it was great. Very solid build, excellent keyboard, vanilla Android... not to mention, it already has a massive developer base.

Thats good to hear i heard there were some sketchy things about the build quality of the hinges

I open and closed it several times and it seemed as solid as it needs to be. I think some people might just be too anal.

Hahahahahha Gee I hope i'm not one of those people cuz if i can't get my hands on a n unlocked Droid 2 Global thats my choice

Ha you can't go wrong either way. The Droid 2 is a tank. My only concerns with the Global would be how much compatibility it will have with D2/DX hacks and whether sbfs will be leaked. Development is much more sparse on these new Motos than HTCs like the G2.

Yah i've looked through the forums and htc's seem to attract a lot of dev interest, meh more room for me in the moto department then

I'm pretty sure it won't have AWS. USA/Canada are the only ones who use it, and they have CDMA networks. Why would Verizon need to roam on any AWS network?
According to leaked specs of the Droid Pro, it has UMTS 850/1900/2100
Since its specifications are very similar to the Droid 2 Global, I'm guessing (and hoping) it also has the same bands so that I have the option of buying it and using it on AT&T.
I don't know why they went with these bands for the Pro since Europe uses 900/2100 and the Pro is missing 900. I don't think 900 is very common though, and Australia uses 850MHz so that may be why.

Is it possible and recommendable to buy the prepaid Verizons droid 2 global instead of the full price one, so you save 150 dols, and then unlock it and use it with another GSM carrier outside the US? Or should I buy the ones that are for sale on ebay?

Douglerful said:
Hey so far i haven't been able to find myself an adequate android phone for my first smartphone purchase (I'm an android junky and dev, just never got around to buying one that fit my needs) However now there are a couple contenders on the market. They have to fit t-mobile frequencies (I live in canada, and the only good network is wind which is basically t-mobile) and can't have too many issues. So I've recently stumbled across the spec sheet for the Motorola Droid 2 Global edition and was wondering if it supported t-mobiles frequencies considering the huge amount of radios it already does have.
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For T-Mobile 3g I would go for the My Touch 4g or the Samsung Vibrant or The Nexus One. The Nexus One is still cutting edge. I have a Nexus One and a Droid 2 Global and the 1.2 processor doesn't really feel different. The Droid 2 Global also has barley any support here and absolutely no roms. I Love my Nexus One and I think it is better than any other smart-phone iv seen. If you want a great phone with amazing support and roms I would go with the Nexus.

Droid 2 GLOBAL - unsuccessful ROOT!
I was able to get a pre-retail Droid 2 Global a few weeks ago.
I wanted to Root is and use the Sapphire ROM. So I tried every ROOT method I could find using my MAC = no avail!
Then I tried every ROOT method I could find using a PC = NO AVAIL! (1-2-3, One click, etc)
* The only thing that happened was the phone got real hot and the program got stuck at "searching for device" - & yes I downloaded the Motorola drivers and the updated SDK pack.
Any thoughts on this?

You need to run the root apps again consecutively not always does it work the first time and all of the apps do the same exploit and there have been Droid 2 Globals that have rooted you just need to stick with it. Also sometimes it helps to reboot your phone after a failed attempt. It just depends on the phone. I remember when root first came for the D2 and we didn't have apps we had to run all the commands from ADB and do it manually.

Still no dice to Root Droid 2 Global
I just got this:
ww.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-global/96381-droid-2-global-root-custom-recovery-sim-unlock-tutorial.html[/url]
I am going to give it a whirl after I get home from work tonight. Fingers crossed - if this doesn't work, I'm all set with trying to root this thing.
-d

D I O R D said:
I just got this:
ww.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-global/96381-droid-2-global-root-custom-recovery-sim-unlock-tutorial.html[/url]
I am going to give it a whirl after I get home from work tonight. Fingers crossed - if this doesn't work, I'm all set with trying to root this thing.
-d
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Be VERY careful!!! Droid 2 and Droid 2 Global ROM's are NOT compatible. If you flash Droid 2 rom on D2G, phone will not boot and as there is no SBF available yet, you are looking into expensive paperweight until SBF is released.
BTW - phone is rootable. But refrain from flashing anything before you have way to get out if phone gets bricked. You have been warned.

Thanks for the heads up...
After minimal research, I realized that.
My plan was to flash clockwork recovery? Do you think that won't work?
It will be hard, but I can endure waiting for a "GLOBAL" ROM -
Cheers,
-T

D I O R D said:
After minimal research, I realized that.
My plan was to flash clockwork recovery? Do you think that won't work?
It will be hard, but I can endure waiting for a "GLOBAL" ROM -
Cheers,
-T
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Even if you have a D2 G clockwork regularly won't work because the D2 only has a bootstrapped recovery. I don't have a D2 G but the D2 G is based on the D2 and on the D2 you should only install things with koush's bootstrap. I believe flashing normal clockwork will brick your D2 G. I wouldn't flash anything though before the D2 G's sbf is out. Unless you don't mind an expensive paperweight until then.
For all D2 G owner's: read everyting you can about the way that things are done with the D2 so you will knw what you are doing when ROM's and things come for the D2 Global.
Sent from my DROID2 using XDA App

looking for a great GSM phone

hi guys
i always wanted a HTC android phone but since they are CDMA
and i dont have CMDA in my country
i have to look at something else
what do you guys think about the nexus S ?
it terms of updates or roms from cyanogen etc will there be any support
since the nexus series are "google phones" ill be spoiled with updates right ?
+ do you think i should wait for newer phones ie dual core
many thanks

You live in a GSM country, i.e somewhere in the world that isn't America and you can't find a HTC Android phone that works with GSM????
I find that very hard to believe.
Anyway, the Nexus S is a great device so you wouldn't be disappointed if you snagged one right now.

Desire, Desire HD, HD2, Legend, Hero, easily could go on.
Galaxy S.

DirkGently1 said:
You live in a GSM country, i.e somewhere in the world that isn't America and you can't find a HTC Android phone that works with GSM????
I find that very hard to believe.
Anyway, the Nexus S is a great device so you wouldn't be disappointed if you snagged one right now.
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well the HTC phones i wanted were only CDMA
thanks ill buy a nexus S right now

What HTC phone out there is CDMA that doesn't have a GSM counterpart?

wana purchase hp palm phone plz suggest which one?

i there
i had gifted him android phone few months back but he dint liked it
he told its complicated for my age
now i want to buy a simple and fluid webos phone for my old father
can u suggest which model should i go for
phone should b fast and fluid
i need a gsm unlocked phone
i need your suggestion

Pre 2 or Pre 3 if u ask me...Pre 3 might work out better because of its larger (and higher res) screen and keyboard. They should both be fluid enough for all tasks.

The Veer is also a good choice; the build quality is excellent, and is still speedy. 4g is also nice. And you can get one for $50 without looking hard. Small screen? Yes. Charger is odd too. But for a basic phone, it works well, and on a Straight Talk bring your own GSM phone, economical.

SIROSISOFLIVER said:
...on a Straight Talk bring your own GSM phone, economical.
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LOLz - I don't think they have Straight Talk in Bahrain where the OP is from.
Important for you is getting a European model - NOT North American - so that your comm board is compatible with the carriers in Bahrain.
Veer or Pre 3 might be a good choice to get 4G data speeds - but for ease of use with any GSM carrier and a more proven model go with the Factory Unlocked GSM Pre 2... Just my humble opinion.