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help me pick a new phone

I am on T mobile with a iPhone4 and it does good but getting tired of the drama to make it work. I am wanting to know what HTC phone would you all suggest going with to replace it. must have the following stuff
wfi so i can hotspot
N wifi adapter built in..not a b/g netowrk
email
fast browser (i like the speed of the safari)
camera with same photo quality with flash
full touch screen would be fine
same speed processor as iphone 4
same size screen or close to the ip4
gps capable
oh...can also make calls
phones in the past which did not do the trick for me:
touch pro 2
any blackberry
g1
droid
droid eris
i have no problem rooting it to get it where i want it...i rooted some of my previous phones.

not a single opinion?????

calimove said:
not a single opinion?????
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The G2 is a pretty good option, or even the MyTouch 4G. Research before you ask questions

Right now T-mobile doesn't have a HTC Android phone. The G2 is going to be the best bet for you but it is not going to have the hot spot or wifi "n". I would wait because Samsung is supposed to be releasing there "flagship" phone on Tmo and it is rumored to have all of you listed requirements.

i suggest waitiing till febuary, when alll the dual core android power house phones are realesed... they will be twice as fast as your iPhone! in tthe mean time just hold on to your device, or if oh are really desparate, the Desire HD is a good iPhone alternative.

very cool info...thanks for all info provided...i have no problem waiting to see what comes out next month...

vmbgap said:
Right now T-mobile doesn't have a HTC Android phone. The G2 is going to be the best bet for you but it is not going to have the hot spot or wifi "n". I would wait because Samsung is supposed to be releasing there "flagship" phone on Tmo and it is rumored to have all of you listed requirements.
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Uhh...The G2 is made by HTC. And so is the MyTouch 4G...Also the original MyTouch 3G (not suggested) and the G1 (stopped selling, not suggested).

How much $$ have you got to spend? You should check out Desire HD, it spanks iPhones ass.
You could also wait for a bit if you want to get a dual core phone.

I would wait because Samsung is supposed to be releasing there "flagship" phone on Tmo and it is rumored to have all of you listed requirements.

Don't go with Samsung. They're all about getting the hottest hardware, but they never deliver updates. Look at all of the US Galaxy S models (Vibrant, Captivate, Epic, Fascinate, Mesmerize). Not one of them is officially on 2.2 even though first they promised it in October, then November, then end of year. And when they released it for the Canadian Vibrant (which is basically the i9000), they fried the internal memory. And then they went and released 2.2 for the Intercept on Sprint (not even the Epic!) and that bricked most of them.
You want to go with HTC or any other brand, but not Samsung if you want quick updates, or any updates at all.
You want proof Samsung sucks even more? They're releasing the "Vibrant 4G" on T-Mobile, which is the same Vibrant, but with HSPA+ (4G), Android 2.2, and the Front-Facing camera that they yanked out originally.

mbcvx said:
I would wait because Samsung is supposed to be releasing there "flagship" phone on Tmo and it is rumored to have all of you listed requirements.
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That looks familiar...

Product F(RED) said:
Don't go with Samsung. They're all about getting the hottest hardware, but they never deliver updates. Look at all of the US Galaxy S models (Vibrant, Captivate, Epic, Fascinate, Mesmerize). Not one of them is officially on 2.2 even though first they promised it in October, then November, then end of year. And when they released it for the Canadian Vibrant (which is basically the i9000), they fried the internal memory. And then they went and released 2.2 for the Intercept on Sprint (not even the Epic!) and that bricked most of them.
You want to go with HTC or any other brand, but not Samsung if you want quick updates, or any updates at all.
You want proof Samsung sucks even more? They're releasing the "Vibrant 4G" on T-Mobile, which is the same Vibrant, but with HSPA+ (4G), Android 2.2, and the Front-Facing camera that they yanked out originally.
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Samsung + Rooting = not having to wait for samsung to update and you get great hardware!

[Link]Galaxy Nexus 'confirmed' specs?

http://www.talkandroid.com/65267-fu...xy-nexus-revealed-verizon-exclusive-and-more/
Huge screen. Small battery capacity. I'm sure it feels good in hand.
Edit: please delete if already posted.
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Battery life is probably gonna suck. But what's up with it being a Verizon exclusive? If that's true, that's terrible. It should be unlocked for GSM like the other two nexus phones. Disappointing
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I just don't get the data caps. Seems to me, and I'm no genius, if carriers increase capacity, they could charge for unlimited data. A friend with an iPhone(att) is asking me about Sprint and is this || close to switching to the Nexus S 4G. He told me that he doesnt like that he cant use his device the way its meant to be used because of the 2GB cap. Caps just seem so...2005.
But I digress, I'm anxious to see real world performance on this thing.

malikadnanm said:
Battery life is probably gonna suck. But what's up with it being a Verizon exclusive? If that's true, that's terrible. It should be unlocked for GSM like the other two nexus phones. Disappointing
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There almost undoubtedly will be a GSM version. Do you really think Samsung is going to make a device like this and exclude the rest of the world - when both previous Nexus devices shipped as world phones?
Toss in the "confirmed" specs listing LTE/HSPA depending on carrier and you have your confirmation a GSM version will be produced. How or when it's sold within the US is another question. Verizon may have a launch exclusive, but you will see a GSM version. It's possible it may not be carrier subsidized in the US (I doubt that) or that it may merely be delayed to a later release date.

sprint also seems to be the new tmobile, adopting everything google. i cant imagine the prime not coming to sprint. i may pick up a epic touch to hold me off for a while. that is unless we get a leak of ics. that will hold me off till the prime.

krohnjw said:
There almost undoubtedly will be a GSM version. Do you really think Samsung is going to make a device like this and exclude the rest of the world - when both previous Nexus devices shipped as world phones?
Toss in the "confirmed" specs listing LTE/HSPA depending on carrier and you have your confirmation a GSM version will be produced. How or when it's sold within the US is another question. Verizon may have a launch exclusive, but you will see a GSM version. It's possible it may not be carrier subsidized in the US (I doubt that) or that it may merely be delayed to a later release date.
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And its rocking the PowerVR SGX540. Frankly, I wanted the OMAP4470 for the SGX544 and the Dual-channel LPDDR2 memory.

I'm going to be disappointed if the phone is that big.... or maybe its a 4 inch phone like the Nexus S but with a bigger screen to accommodate for having no touch sensitive keys..... I hope that's the case... I don't want a tablet, I want a smartphone.
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Actually, there's also another rumour for the specs of this phone
- dual-core 1.5GHz Exynos
- dual-core PowerVR SGX543MP2
- 8 megapixels camera
- 2,050mAh battery
http://www.gsmarena.com/source_close_to_google_reveals_real_nexus_prime_specs-news-3239.php
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-specs-leak-headed-to-verizon-as-an-exclusi/

return this phone for anogher lte device?

For those that purchased this phon on launch day our return window is closing soon. Is anyone else considering returning the phone for another att lte device? What lte devices are coming soon for att?

There are only 2 right now. The vivid and skyrocket. The vivid is htc with a slower processor, and locked botloader.. but there is aan lg phone coming out soon suposidley the last lte phone of the year
http://www.pcworld.com/article/245059/lg_nitro_hd_atandts_720p_4g_lte_phone.html

kronikwisdom said:
For those that purchased this phon on launch day our return window is closing soon. Is anyone else considering returning the phone for another att lte device? What lte devices are coming soon for att?
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Vivid is your only choice at the moment... Nexus might not come till Summer 2012 for Att&t..
ICS will be available on the SR very soon

GalaxySkyrocket500 said:
Vivid is your only choice at the moment... Nexus might not come till Summer 2012 for Att&t..
ICS will be available on the SR very soon
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I really hope ics does come soon. Lol but who knows with at&t
May take longer then u think. The verizon galaxy nexus hasnt even be released yet. So no other phones will get ics until after it is

silver03wrx said:
I really hope ics does come soon. Lol but who knows with at&t
May take longer then u think. The verizon galaxy nexus hasnt even be released yet. So no other phones will get ics until after it is
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I hope it does too.. I heard the Verizon Nexus is coming Dec 8... along with the Asus prime 2 tab..

silver03wrx said:
There are only 2 right now. The vivid and skyrocket. The vivid is htc with a slower processor, and locked botloader.. but there is aan lg phone coming out soon suposidley the last lte phone of the year
http://www.pcworld.com/article/245059/lg_nitro_hd_atandts_720p_4g_lte_phone.html
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according to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
its the same processor in both. the international Raider is clocked at the same speed and the AT&T variant (Vivid) is slightly Underclocked from the factory. but they are both capable of the same speeds.

You don't even say why you want to return it.
I've personally contemplated getting the Galaxy Nexus (unlocked), but I'm torn between the two.
The main GN selling points for me are the higher res display, notification light and NFC out of the box. On the other hand, it's got a crappy camera, no LTE (plus I'm hearing lousy signal and data speeds on AT&T).
What I love about the SR is obviously LTE and the camera, but on the other hand I hate the 800x480 res and sound quality of both ear speaker and loud speaker is sub-par. Plus, no notification light is killing me, reminds of my days with an iPhone. Why does Samsung omit this feature is beyond me.

If you can live w/ less internal memory, than the LG Nitro HD LTE might be good.

But the dev suport on the lg will be a gamble

kronikwisdom said:
For those that purchased this phon on launch day our return window is closing soon. Is anyone else considering returning the phone for another att lte device? What lte devices are coming soon for att?
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The skyrocket is a really good device, you might as well keep it. Your other option on ATT is the vivid which I have and is a great device. But don't worry, with this CarrierIQ thing going on right now (which seems to be ATT only and not Google, Samsung or HTC) you ptobably should be able to opt out the contract at any time since you didn't sign up for that crap...
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Ciq isnt just att.....the samsung epic is the first phone i believe to be discoverd with it thats sprint, and that was discoverd almost a year ago. But i am suprised no one has tried to see if they could get out of there contract yet due to it... i believe it was k0nane who discoverd it on the epic

Then it looks like the SR is the best choice for the next 6 months or so. Honestly, I haven't even looked at new phones that were coming out for AT&T. The LG phone doesn't look appealing as there is only 4gb on board which is crazy for a smartphone these days.
Thanks for the info!!

silver03wrx said:
But the dev suport on the lg will be a gamble
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This is my concern. The only two gripes I have about my skyrocket are the screen lines and the poor audio...The LG Nitro screen quality may be better resolution, but it is still LCD. I doubt audio is any better than what it was on the thrill. On that note...the thrill has hod absolutely no developmental improvements since I left that device over a month ago.
I have no interest in the Vivid (heavy, washed out screen, bootloader issue) so the Nitro would be my only choice at the moment and I just don't see that happening...4gb internal memory and no development....the SR will prolly be the better choice to tide me over until mid '12
We have another upgrade available next week so we may pick up a nitro to compare side by side.
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Pirateghost said:
according to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
its the same processor in both. the international Raider is clocked at the same speed and the AT&T variant (Vivid) is slightly Underclocked from the factory. but they are both capable of the same speeds.
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very interesting
HP TouchPad, T-Mobile Galaxy S II, Galaxy S II Skyrocket, HTC Vivid, NTT DoCoMo Galaxy S II LTE
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the Galaxy S2 variants i knew them all
what i did not know was the HP TouchPad is the SAME!!!!! as our phones just super sized

AllGamer said:
very interesting
the Galaxy S2 variants i knew them all
what i did not know was the HP TouchPad is the SAME!!!!! as our phones just super sized
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i love my touchpad...lol. i got a galaxy tab, but couldnt get rid of the touchpad, so i gave it to my 8 yr old

spielnicht said:
...(plus I'm hearing lousy signal and data speeds on AT&T).
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Where are you seeing this? None of the reviews I've read have mentioned that. One thing that may not be widely understood is that you need to have your account provisioned to get HSPA+ data speeds. The old wap.cingular.com gateway is apparently capped in terms of data speeds. You need the IMEI of a "4G" capable AT&T phone in order to get a 4G data plan and the right code added to your account - AT&T doesn't recognize the IMEI of the GN as 4G capable. My plan is to buy the SGS2 Skyrocket with my upgrade, activate it on the 4G unlimited data plan, then sell it and use the SIM in an unlocked GN once the 32GB HSPA+ GN is available.

dwboston said:
Where are you seeing this?
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I read it in multiple posts here on XDA under the GN section. My line was fine with HSPA+ since I had the Atrix, and they said I wouldn't need a new SIM for the Skyrocket...which I believe since I'm getting 45mbs here in DC.

[Q] Looking for a good, cheap, no-contract AT&T smartphone

I don't have my Motorola Atrix 4G anymore, so I'm looking for a good, cheap, no contract smartphone with a physical QWERTY keyboard to buy myself. Right now I'm borrowing a friend's Pantech Link until I get a new phone. I don't want to spend more than around $100, though I'm willing to go a little higher if it's worth it. I mostly use my phone for texting, calling, browsing, Facebook, email, looking up directions/movies/restaurants, and playing Pokemon with an emulator so nothing too intensive, I really didn't need such a high-end smartphone like I used to have.
I'm on AT&T so I need an AT&T phone smartphone or unlocked GSM smartphone that'll work with AT&T. I plan to use the phone for about a year and a half until my contract ends though I might buy another phone before then.
I've been looking at the Motorola Charm that Newegg has on sale for $100. It's unlocked and will work on AT&T, and looks pretty good other than it's 3 MP fixed focus screen and QVGA screen though for $100 it's much better than most of the dumbphones I'll find for under $100.
What do you guys think about this phone and do you know of any other good phones for under $100? Thanks!

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The LG quantum generally runs ~$100 used on online classifieds. Its a att phone with a slider keyboard, running windows phone 7. WP7 is very different compared to android, but its elegant looking, smooth, and super stable. The Facebook app, angrybirds, email are all really good. I doubt there are any free emulators for it, but there are a lot of good quality apps if you don't mind paying a few bucks.
Other than that on att with a keyboard you may be looking at older Windows Mobile phones, like the Tilt 2, or Fuze. They are great phones, with nice keyboards, but very low screen resulotion, and there are no apps in the way they exist on Android or WP7. You can install programs, but there is no store, and will all be old.
You also have the palm offering that might be cheap now. The veer and pre plus have sliders, and wesOS has an app store, even if it is dwindling. I do love my TouchPad, but didn't like a pre plus.
The next option is ... wait for it ... blackberry. I won't get into that, as that is the only platform I never tried.
I don't know about the TMo offerings, but any TMo phone unlocked will work, but you will only get edge, not 3G. The G1 would probably run in your price range.
If you can convince att to give you an early upgrade you could try for the Captivate Slide. Its almost the best android phone on att, and it has a keyboard. But, off contract will be way above your price range.
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quarlow said:
The LG quantum generally runs ~$100 used on online classifieds. Its a att phone with a slider keyboard, running windows phone 7. WP7 is very different compared to android, but its elegant looking, smooth, and super stable. The Facebook app, angrybirds, email are all really good. I doubt there are any free emulators for it, but there are a lot of good quality apps if you don't mind paying a few bucks.
Other than that on att with a keyboard you may be looking at older Windows Mobile phones, like the Tilt 2, or Fuze. They are great phones, with nice keyboards, but very low screen resulotion, and there are no apps in the way they exist on Android or WP7. You can install programs, but there is no store, and will all be old.
You also have the palm offering that might be cheap now. The veer and pre plus have sliders, and wesOS has an app store, even if it is dwindling. I do love my TouchPad, but didn't like a pre plus.
The next option is ... wait for it ... blackberry. I won't get into that, as that is the only platform I never tried.
I don't know about the TMo offerings, but any TMo phone unlocked will work, but you will only get edge, not 3G. The G1 would probably run in your price range.
If you can convince att to give you an early upgrade you could try for the Captivate Slide. Its almost the best android phone on att, and it has a keyboard. But, off contract will be way above your price range.
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Thanks for the advice!
The LG Quantum looks nice, and I've heard a lot of good things about the WP7 OS. I prefer Samsung phones over LG phones so I'll start looking at WP7 phones. I don't want anything outdated though so I'm going to stay away from phones like the HTC Tilt2 and HTC Fuze even though the Tilt 2 looks pretty nice.
I'm not a fan of Blackberries so I'm going to stay away from them.
Also, why would I only get Edge and not 3G if I used an unlocked T-Mobile phone? The Motorola Charm for example supports 850/900/1800/1900 MHz GSM bands; AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz and T-Mobile uses 900/1800 MHz so I'm not sure why I'd only get Edge.
Thanks again!

That charm might work on att 3G. The TMo branded devices generally lack at least one if not several of the att bands (TMo also uses 1700 and 2100). The vibrant is the only one I have heard of working on att, and it didn't support all the bands (I want to say it included 850, but not 1900), so it only worked in some regions.
I like Samsung over LG too, but the quantum is the only QWERTY WP7 device branded for att. The Samsung devices don't have keyboards. WP7 doesn't have the fragmentation that Android does. Microsoft put stricter hardware requirements on the OEMs, so I am fairly certain all of the devices are upgradeable to Mango. I know the original Focus (Samsung not Ford) was upgraded, and ran Mango perfectly. I had a Focus for a month, and was impressed with it, but ultimately went with SGS II, as I am an Android power user.
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quarlow said:
That charm might work on att 3G. The TMo branded devices generally lack at least one if not several of the att bands (TMo also uses 1700 and 2100). The vibrant is the only one I have heard of working on att, and it didn't support all the bands (I want to say it included 850, but not 1900), so it only worked in some regions.
I like Samsung over LG too, but the quantum is the only QWERTY WP7 device branded for att. The Samsung devices don't have keyboards. WP7 doesn't have the fragmentation that Android does. Microsoft put stricter hardware requirements on the OEMs, so I am fairly certain all of the devices are upgradeable to Mango. I know the original Focus (Samsung not Ford) was upgraded, and ran Mango perfectly. I had a Focus for a month, and was impressed with it, but ultimately went with SGS II, as I am an Android power user.
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I defiantly want either an Android 2.1/2.2/2.3 or a WP7/WP7.5 phone with a physical QWERTY keyboard that's cheap so there's not a lot to choose from. I looked online and the Motorola Charm doesn't support 3G on AT&T so that phone's off my list now. :/
I've been reading reviews on the LG Quantum and it looks like a really nice phone. Two main problems though. For one it doesn't have some of the Applications that I rely on that Android has. Notably, a SMS/MMS Backup Application. Second it's too much for my budget, it's about $160 new at the cheapest, plus CA sales tax. I'm kind of iffy about buying a phone used, do you know if it's cheaper anywhere else?
Thanks again for all your help!

I thought of a few more QWERTY att phones. The Dell Venue pro is a portrait slider running WP7. The Motorola Backflip (att's first android phone that everyone forgets about) has an interesting keyboard, it folds out, so when closed the keys face out, instead of sliding. But, I think its stuck on android 1.6. Motorola also released the flipside and flipout on att, both on 2.1. The flipout is smaller, and the keyboard rotates on a pivot, sliding out at 90 degrees. The flipside is more like a normal slider.
The SMS backup was a problem for me on the Focus too. Albeit not a huge problem, but one I never found a solution to. As far as apps, I found it annoying that some apps weren't there, and didn't want to stick it out until they were.
For QWERTY android phones its going to be tricky. HTC made great QWERTY WinMo phones, but no android ones for att (several for TMo). Samsung made the sprint version of the galaxy s QWERTY, but that won't work on att. The G2 on TMo is QWERTY, but won't get 3G data. The Motorola QWERTY android att phones are odd form factors (backflip and flipout), and weren't popular.
The flipside may be your best bet, and on eBay they are close to your range. I believe they run motoblur, which is known to cause poor performance, and generally one of the worst android skins. (What was on the Atrix is not the same, scaled back compared to those earlier versions from what I understand)
As far as used phones, I have never had issues buying used phones. Check the water indicators, and place a test call if buying local. If buying online many eBay sellers offer 30 day warranties.
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[Q] Buying new droid (AT&T), can you beat a Galaxy S II LTE?

I currently have an HTC hero I used on AT&T (I think it was a Rogers phone from canada, its the Hero with the funny kink at the bottom).
I've been very happy with it for a few years now, but my folks just got new iphone 4's and I cant stand the "if this "android" thing is so great why is your phone so much slower than mine?" remarks from my father anymore (guess I did a little to good of a job turning him into a techy ) so its time to upgrade
I had not looked at new phones since my Hero was very near top of the line. Base on my extensive reading over the last 2 weeks it looks like the Samsung Galaxy S II LTE (aka Skyrocket) is probably a great choice, particularly since I will be moving to the Baltimore / D.C. area soon and it looks like they have LTE service!
1st Question) Can I still simply take the sim card from my Hero and pop it into the Skyrocket and be up and running? I assume the new phones still use the same old sim cards but all the reviews / videos / pictures I've seen didn't mention it specifically and I wanted to be sure, for all I know they could have changed.
2nd Question) Any reason you wouldn't recommend the Skyrocket? Something better out now, or coming out very soon?
Thank you very much for the help, I always appreciate the advice and wealth of information from all the experts here!
*EDIT* FYI I did look into the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Note, but its to large for me I think

1) Yes. To my knowledge (not very much ) only iPhones and Nokia's N9 use microSIM cards. Your regular SIM from your Hero will fit fine in your new phone.
2) The Skyrocket is a lovely phone, if you need LTE. There are two similar, somewhat cheaper alternatives available if you're not in an LTE area (i777, i9100). They are both compatible with AT&T 3G service.
If you wait for 'the next best thing' around the corner, you'll never buy anything Manufacturers are certainly pumping devices these days. That said, if you like big phones the Note is coming to AT&T within the next couple of weeks, also packing LTE.
I personally loved the LG Nitro HD for its stunning 720p screen and sleek build, although LGs software is definitely not as polished as Samsungs.
In the end, it all comes down to personal preference If you can, head into your local AT&T shop and get some hands-on time with both. Pick the one which feels better for you. You can make a more informed choice that way
Good luck!