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Frequent updating time and date messages?

Anyone else getting these little popups saying that the time and date is being updated or synchronized? Just happened twice within a few minutes after the phone was on for quite a while. I've seen it a few other times as well.
Anyone else notice this?
I don't really mind if it updates the time and date frequently. I'd just rather not see it.

haydonxda said:
Anyone else getting these little popups saying that the time and date is being updated or synchronized? Just happened twice within a few minutes after the phone was on for quite a while. I've seen it a few other times as well.
Anyone else notice this?
I don't really mind if it updates the time and date frequently. I'd just rather not see it.
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Happens all the time, unfortunately for the foreseeable future you won't disabling it..its part of the main notifications script and its not its own entity its just "display notidfication=1" (something to that effect, don't have the script or db here)
so unless you want no notifications, you're gonna have to deal with it. I've noticed it but I can't say that it has bothered me...

I've never seen this.

That happens when you kill phonecalls settings ect. Make sure your taskkiller avoid killing system and essential services
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Dxtra said:
That happens when you kill phonecalls settings ect. Make sure your taskkiller avoid killing system and essential services
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I never thought of it like that...that makes a lot of sense. nice work!

V DidDy 210 said:
I never thought of it like that...that makes a lot of sense. nice work!
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i stopped using all those "killer" programs. My phone runs much much faster and smoother now.

boodies said:
i stopped using all those "killer" programs. My phone runs much much faster and smoother now.
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Really? Wouldn't that mean everything you launch is sitting in memory and wouldn't that make it run more poorly?

brandonb81 said:
Really? Wouldn't that mean everything you launch is sitting in memory and wouldn't that make it run more poorly?
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No, a big feature of Android is that it automatically kills apps when new apps and processes need memory. App 'killers' were only semi useful on older phones like the G1 which had very little memory.

brandonb81 said:
Really? Wouldn't that mean everything you launch is sitting in memory and wouldn't that make it run more poorly?
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yeah, like the guy above said, the default android os will start killing processes once it goes down to like 60 megs or something. When I had the task killer running, it did more harm than good for me on my Vibrant. It was okay for my G1 I guess but this isn't a G1!

boodies said:
yeah, like the guy above said, the default android os will start killing processes once it goes down to like 60 megs or something. When I had the task killer running, it did more harm than good for me on my Vibrant. It was okay for my G1 I guess but this isn't a G1!
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I switched to this phone from a G1 and the difference is incredible. I see all of these posts complaining about a little lag here and there and think, 'go use a first gen phone for a while, then you'll see' lol.

Not sure what happened to the Beejive thread, but you can exit now!

As per their latest email:
Build 0.9.8.99
More enhancements and bug fixes notably
Picture thumb nails and view file for file transfers
Enhancements to Voice Notes
Enhancements to Group Chats
Exit Menu Item for exiting the app
Thank You for participating in this beta and
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Toast removed it.... Felt is warez since the devs requested not to give it out..... i would suggest removing the beta download link.... just in case they decide to ban this time
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dadoc04 said:
Toast removed it.... Felt is warez since the devs requested not to give it out..... i would suggest removing the beta download link.... just in case they decide to ban this time
Sent from my HTC Evo
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I see. Updated original post.

New version of the beta out, looks much better but has some issues with swype

is there anywhere to get the app for android since the beta stopped working for everyone today

I have the newest version which is build #0.9.9.1 and it's got the shut down button to truly close the app finally lol but they took out the ability to use voice notes which was cool... kinda like what Palringo has!! hope they put it back! it's still in beta so im sure before it becomes final they'll polish it up good!!

I just Confirmed BeejiveIM is using C2DM(Google's Push notification Service)! My EVO's battery is crying with joy. I can now leave it running in the background with barely any battery drain! HOORAY!

zeuzinn said:
I just Confirmed BeejiveIM is using C2DM(Google's Push notification Service)! My EVO's battery is crying with joy. I can now leave it running in the background with barely any battery drain! HOORAY!
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Very very interesting. Do you have the apk?
Edit: Forget it. I got it. Where did you read that it was using a true push tech?

Uninstalled. 100% wake time. Oh well.

MSmith1 said:
Edit: Forget it. I got it. Where did you read that it was using a true push tech?
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Reading ABD logcat at first, then I noticed it actually shows it when you're installing the app and it asks for permissions. "Allow app to use Cloud to Device Messaging" under Network use.
Also notice that when you open it, it takes a split second to "update" your buddy list(Unlike eBuddy,Trillian and all others), proving it wasn't doing anything in the background.
I wouldn't let the 100% uptime keep you from installing this app. I am literally online the whole day and have noticed no major impact on battery life.

can you PM the link or how to get the APK for the latest beta?
zeuzinn said:
Reading ABD logcat at first, then I noticed it actually shows it when you're installing the app and it asks for permissions. "Allow app to use Cloud to Device Messaging" under Network use.
Also notice that when you open it, it takes a split second to "update" your buddy list(Unlike eBuddy,Trillian and all others), proving it wasn't doing anything in the background.
I wouldn't let the 100% uptime keep you from installing this app. I am literally online the whole day and have noticed no major impact on battery life.
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zeuzinn said:
Reading ABD logcat at first, then I noticed it actually shows it when you're installing the app and it asks for permissions. "Allow app to use Cloud to Device Messaging" under Network use.
Also notice that when you open it, it takes a split second to "update" your buddy list(Unlike eBuddy,Trillian and all others), proving it wasn't doing anything in the background.
I wouldn't let the 100% uptime keep you from installing this app. I am literally online the whole day and have noticed no major impact on battery life.
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I dont see how the 100% wake time wouldn't have a negative effect on the battery. Its not letting the phone sleep. Isn't the purpose of push technology to let the app sleep in the background and only wake the app when there is data to be sent?

MSmith1 said:
I dont see how the 100% wake time wouldn't have a negative effect on the battery.
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First of all, my phone does not keep a 100% wake time when using Beejive. Even if it did, you need to understand what your phone is actually doing and what Android reports as "Wake time". Android can report your phone as "awake" while using 0% cpu and 0% network--Draining the same exact amount or even LESS as if the phone was being reported as "asleep".
My point is: People take the awake time too seriously. It's there to help you understand what app might be draining your battery but absolutely does not mean your battery is being raped. The system is really complex so it can and it WILL sometimes report your phone as awake, even though it's not draining any battery at all.
MSmith1 said:
Isn't the purpose of push technology to let the app sleep in the background and only wake the app when there is data to be sent?
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Yes. But like I said, Android sometimes reports the phone as Awake just because the App is sitting there-While using 0% CPU and 0% Network -- The phone is effectively asleep. It's using a push connection, and when a message comes in it will use some cpu and some network--effectively waking up the phone, using some battery.

Looks like it's getting released on the market today!

GENEius said:
Looks like it's getting released on the market today!
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Where did you get this info from?

Rican Bx Bomba said:
Where did you get this info from?
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http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/09/28/beejive-im-for-android-first-look/

It was on http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/09/28/beejive-im-for-android-first-look/

good find.. i bought this for my iphone back then.. sucks that i'll have to pay again...

Final version is now in the market for $10. You can email them if you were in the beta to get a free copy.

TheBiles said:
Final version is now in the market for $10. You can email them if you were in the beta to get a free copy.
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YESSIR!!! just emailed them. Hopefully they get it to me quickly.

[APK] Brand new Market client

Not sure if anyone else has seen what the amazing work Android Devs have done on the Market, but it looks stunning. Heres a lonk to their blog w/ screenshots:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/12/android-market-client-update.html
Anyway, a test apk has been leaked and here it is!
http://www.mediafire.com/?31bn3e258jjpj8d
Just update the apk via Astro, or if that doesnt work, copy to system/app via Root Explorer, reboot, and enjoy!
MAKE SURE TO BACKUP THE OLD APK!
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You just need to install it like you would any other app. No need to be rooted either.
http://droid-den.com/app-guides/android-guide-how-to-get-the-new-improved-market

I just used apk Installer and it worked fine. Nice update!
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Didnt think a manual update would work. ill update first post.
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Seems to work well here
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Just saw this post. Funny thing is, mine updated yesterday on its own. I was wondering if anyone else had this, thats when i saw this thread.
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jtc442 said:
Just saw this post. Funny thing is, mine updated yesterday on its own. I was wondering if anyone else had this, thats when i saw this thread.
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Really?? What firmware u on? Which carrier?
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Google are pushing this out over the air...

jtc442 said:
Just saw this post. Funny thing is, mine updated yesterday on its own. I was wondering if anyone else had this, thats when i saw this thread.
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The revamped one? They said about 2 weeks till they were fully pushing it out OTA.
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I'm not even sure I like this new version... Bits are better. The "wheel" at the top should function as one (spin to change from apps to games for example), and it would do well to be smaller.

It's not all good news though..... Not only are Google bringing in this revised App but they are also changing the returns policy on 'Paid Apps'.
At the moment it is 24hrs but very soon this will automatically change to 15mins..... Yes, FIFTEEN MINUTES!

Beards said:
It's not all good news though..... Not only are Google bringing in this revised App but they are also changing the returns policy on 'Paid Apps'.
At the moment it is 24hrs but very soon this will automatically change to 15mins..... Yes, FIFTEEN MINUTES!
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It is a massive change, and a majority of people dont like it, but I see where theyre coming from. Every app I have refunded have been at max 10 mins. Who needs a day to try an app to see if they like it or not?
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GANJDROID said:
It is a massive change, and a majority of people dont like it, but I see where theyre coming from. Every app I have refunded have been at max 10 mins. Who needs a day to try an app to see if they like it or not?
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I can understand that for many it will not be an issue but for me it does suffer an impact.
A lot of my paid software has to be tested with other Apps and other people.
There is no way I can achieve this within 15 minutes nor would I wish to challenge one of my medical team to stop what he/she is doing just so as I can ensure the new App is tested within the new time lines.
Run of the mill games and non business applications should be fine but larger business orientated applications will I feel suffer.
They may end up having to take other measures to ensure sales targets are met.

Beards said:
Run of the mill games and non business applications should be fine but larger business orientated applications will I feel suffer.
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I'm not totally convinced of that - most apps are pretty cheap (even the business ones) and I think a business can afford to drop £20 or so on a copy of an app for testing purposes, whereas perhaps a "casual" user might not.
For example, if I'm looking at rolling out Android phones to lots of users, and I want to check out 3rd party exchange integration solutions, it's going to cost me less than £20 to get full copies of both Touchdown and RoadSync.
YMMV of course!
I suspect we'll start seeing more free trial/time limited versions of software popping up.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I'm not totally convinced of that - most apps are pretty cheap (even the business ones) and I think a business can afford to drop £20 or so on a copy of an app for testing purposes, whereas perhaps a "casual" user might not.
For example, if I'm looking at rolling out Android phones to lots of users, and I want to check out 3rd party exchange integration solutions, it's going to cost me less than £20 to get full copies of both Touchdown and RoadSync.
YMMV of course!
I suspect we'll start seeing more free trial/time limited versions of software popping up.
Regards,
Dave
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They will suffer if they don't introduce what you are saying (which I totally agree upon).
Under this new time limit there's effectively four problems:-
1. Large Content Application Downloads
Apps that have significant amounts of downloadable data i.e. Maps, Game data files etc can depending on your speed take ages to download. As such there is no realistic way you can download all the data and test it within 15mins.
2. Time & Location Apps
Some Apps rely upon a time of day or location (alarm clocks, location based sound profiles etc). 15mins isn't enough time to evaluate these Apps.
3. Utility Apps
Apps such as over-clocking, battery resource monitors, Wi-Fi/Bluetooth location-based togglers etc. How do you manage to test these within 15mins.
4. Buyers Confidence
If you have an entire day to download and try an app, you're less likely to feel rushed to test, or pressured into keeping the app. By offering an entire day to "try-before-you-commit-to-buy" Google and the developer community are conveying a sense of confidence that the apps found in the Android Market are of such high quality that you'll like them -- after all, if you don't like them they'll give you your money back! That's a pretty confident sentiment, and it sets potential buyers at ease.
By rolling that back to just a quarter-hour, Google is essentially reversing that sentiment, making users less likely to make the purchase in the first place. Do the math: 15 minutes is a reduction in time of 98.9583%.
As a short-term measure I would like to see Google change the time-limit to say 2 to 4hrs.
Long term I agree I hope we now get to see more Apps being offered with a trial bases, i.e. you can test an App for seven uses, after this time if you wish to keep and use you pay for it.

Beards said:
They will suffer if they don't introduce what you are saying (which I totally agree upon).
Under this new time limit there's effectively four problems:-
1. Large Content Application Downloads
Apps that have significant amounts of downloadable data i.e. Maps, Game data files etc can depending on your speed take ages to download. As such there is no realistic way you can download all the data and test it within 15mins.
2. Time & Location Apps
Some Apps rely upon a time of day or location (alarm clocks, location based sound profiles etc). 15mins isn't enough time to evaluate these Apps.
3. Utility Apps
Apps such as over-clocking, battery resource monitors, Wi-Fi/Bluetooth location-based togglers etc. How do you manage to test these within 15mins.
4. Buyers Confidence
If you have an entire day to download and try an app, you're less likely to feel rushed to test, or pressured into keeping the app. By offering an entire day to "try-before-you-commit-to-buy" Google and the developer community are conveying a sense of confidence that the apps found in the Android Market are of such high quality that you'll like them -- after all, if you don't like them they'll give you your money back! That's a pretty confident sentiment, and it sets potential buyers at ease.
By rolling that back to just a quarter-hour, Google is essentially reversing that sentiment, making users less likely to make the purchase in the first place. Do the math: 15 minutes is a reduction in time of 98.9583%.
As a short-term measure I would like to see Google change the time-limit to say 2 to 4hrs.
Long term I agree I hope we now get to see more Apps being offered with a trial bases, i.e. you can test an App for seven uses, after this time if you wish to keep and use you pay for it.
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1. yup, games with large downloads after installing will be an issue. An hout would be better. 24 hours effectively allowed you to complete a game so that was too much.
2. yeah but they generally have lite versions.
3. agreed.
4. Yeah, but 24 hours was way too much. 15 probably too little (although like GANJDROID I *generally* refund within 5 mins)
15 mins is better than nothing right? If the market started with 15 mins we would be happy. Fact is we were probably a bit spoilt by having a whole day.
On a positive note, I think that google wouldn't have done with without significant pressure, and I'd assume from large game companies. So, we might expect an influx of mega-high quality games as a result, something I'm (just about) willing to give up 23 hours and 45 minutes for!

Has anyone tried to use the search? It doesn't work at all for me. I tried hitting the magnifying glass, and choosing it from the menu. Nothing.

BoostedSR20 said:
Has anyone tried to use the search? It doesn't work at all for me. I tried hitting the magnifying glass, and choosing it from the menu. Nothing.
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Mine works fine. Try reinstallimg it or use the search touch button?
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GANJDROID said:
Mine works fine. Try reinstallimg it or use the search touch button?
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Yeah even the touch button doesn't work. I can't install it (no sideloading with ATT, and I haven't done anything to fix that) So I just copied it in with root explorer.
This is very odd. I'm gonna try a reboot.

Works fine after a reboot.

Skype 2 video available

The latest Skype update for Android is available to everyone, but it only enables video chat on four specific handsets. Fortunately, impatient modders have gone some way to correcting this profound injustice, by creating APKs that activate video calling on other handsets too. So far we've heard of successful ports on the Samsung Galaxy S II and the HTC Sensation, Thunderbolt and EVO 4G. If you've got some other handset with Android 2.3, a little experimentation with the APK might also be worth your while. However, we just tried it on an Xperia Arc and didn't get very far: the app ran, but efforts to communicate with an Xperia Neo resulted in one-way video, a locked landscape mode and plenty of awkwardness. Let us know if you fare better -- you'll find a Thunderbolt-specific download at the DroidLife source link, and a more general APK at TechPetals.
http://blogs.skype.com/en/2011/06/smile_skype_for_android_with_v.html
Figured I would drop this in here if anyone has some know how and wants to look into it to see if there is anyway for us to have this on our phone. Doubt it though considering it requires 2.3 which seems to be the standard for google video chat and stuff, but hey, its worth a shot!!!
Found some more info. Tested and still didn't work but apparently on our device but confirmed on the SGS2. Here is the link for the guy who got it working.
http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/showthread.php/4849-Skype-with-Video-Support-for-Various-Devices...?p=42265#post42265
Im not familiar with knowing the ins and outs of editing an apk but this might be a start for someone who does

Probably requires GB.... I would think

yep. the official requires gb and in the list of device check. with device check removed, almost all with gingerbread can use it.

man, so much we can't do without gb. This phone should have launched with it.

skillz9669 said:
man, so much we can't do without gb. This phone should have launched with it.
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I know. WTF on that?

the only true gripe I have with android is its similarity with linux, fragmented operating system. I mean we buy these $500+ phones and a week later I find some inferior phone doing more than we are, it blows my mind sometimes!!!

skillz9669 said:
the only true gripe I have with android is its similarity with linux, fragmented operating system. I mean we buy these $500+ phones and a week later I find some inferior phone doing more than we are, it blows my mind sometimes!!!
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Yeah, one of Google's big thing at IO was that they wanted to eliminate the fragmentation, yet I haven't seen anything to indicate they're taking steps to achieve this.
Unfortunately it's one big advantage Apple has... they take a hard line position that the carrier doesn't touch the OS software, nor prevent the deployment of the updates. Not sure why Google is such a wuss when it comes to holding the carriers accountable for the timely delivery of their updates. AT&T says it's because they have to ensure a quality user experience, but comon, what AT&T customer actually believes that crap? LOL

bella92108 said:
Yeah, one of Google's big thing at IO was that they wanted to eliminate the fragmentation, yet I haven't seen anything to indicate they're taking steps to achieve this.
Unfortunately it's one big advantage Apple has... they take a hard line position that the carrier doesn't touch the OS software, nor prevent the deployment of the updates. Not sure why Google is such a wuss when it comes to holding the carriers accountable for the timely delivery of their updates. AT&T says it's because they have to ensure a quality user experience, but comon, what AT&T customer actually believes that crap? LOL
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I work for AT&T and I can tell you that we (the pions in the store) think its crap too. The lockdowns, the non-market app bs, etc. I do hope google puts its BIG foot down one day and steps up to plate on this issue.

skillz9669 said:
I work for AT&T and I can tell you that we (the pions in the store) think its crap too. The lockdowns, the non-market app bs, etc. I do hope google puts its BIG foot down one day and steps up to plate on this issue.
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I think it'll come and come soon. Now that android is becoming the mainstream people will catch on and support the carrier who is on top of it

bella92108 said:
I think it'll come and come soon. Now that android is becoming the mainstream people will catch on and support the carrier who is on top of it
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hey, this is gonna sound like a really dumb question and way off topic but can you tell me how your notified when someone posts. I have always been one to read through forums daily but have never gotten too good at participating, as you might tell as I have been a member for 3 years and have very little posts. I personally have to try and remember the threads I participated in and see if someone replied. This seems very redundant but I don't see a better way to be notified. Thanks in advance

Is anyone's phone dying quickly after installing this. I even tried signing out and closing the app but my phone legit drains 10% an hour on standby. So I deleted the app. Now my wifi is turning on and off and can't keep a constant connection. Help?
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cmjkxa said:
Is anyone's phone dying quickly after installing this. I even tried signing out and closing the app but my phone legit drains 10% an hour on standby. So I deleted the app. Now my wifi is turning on and off and can't keep a constant connection. Help?
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I personally have seen no change since installing it, as for the wifi thing are you rooted and running any rom of sort of just stock? I have seen some wifi issues with the roms. Don't know if maybe the app sparked the problem or what but maybe you can backup your apps and reinstall. Good luck

bella92108 said:
Yeah, one of Google's big thing at IO was that they wanted to eliminate the fragmentation, yet I haven't seen anything to indicate they're taking steps to achieve this.
Unfortunately it's one big advantage Apple has... they take a hard line position that the carrier doesn't touch the OS software, nor prevent the deployment of the updates. Not sure why Google is such a wuss when it comes to holding the carriers accountable for the timely delivery of their updates. AT&T says it's because they have to ensure a quality user experience, but comon, what AT&T customer actually believes that crap? LOL
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The only true advantage that Apple has over Android is that they only more or less support one device. Android is spread amongst how many different devices? It's easy to put out lackluster updates to a single device, but putting out updates to 20+ different devices isn't so easy.

how are you guys even getting it to install? is it actually working?

yes please, can any one confirm that the video call on Skype is working on the infuse?
regards

no it is not working. installing the custom apk does give you the video call option, but if you press it, it goes into landscape to prepare for video call and then it does nothing. gingerbread is needed since it uses the frontfacing camera api.

cmjkxa said:
Is anyone's phone dying quickly after installing this. I even tried signing out and closing the app but my phone legit drains 10% an hour on standby. So I deleted the app. Now my wifi is turning on and off and can't keep a constant connection. Help?
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Yes, my phone's battery started draining in about two hours after installing Skype, so I uninstalled and things are better again now.
Even if Skype supports video on the Infuse, I don't think I will start using it unless they address the battery usage.

skillz9669 said:
hey, this is gonna sound like a really dumb question and way off topic but can you tell me how your notified when someone posts. I have always been one to read through forums daily but have never gotten too good at participating, as you might tell as I have been a member for 3 years and have very little posts. I personally have to try and remember the threads I participated in and see if someone replied. This seems very redundant but I don't see a better way to be notified. Thanks in advance
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Click "Thread Tools" at the top of the thread. Choose subscribe thread. Choose your poison.
That should set you up so you get notified.

Snehanshu said:
Yes, my phone's battery started draining in about two hours after installing Skype, so I uninstalled and things are better again now.
Even if Skype supports video on the Infuse, I don't think I will start using it unless they address the battery usage.
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Have you tried Stop Skype from Market?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153285
apparently theres been some success with modding skype for froyo. anybody want to try out some of these builds?

Killing apps too aggressively?

Anyone else notice this?
For example. I'll open up chrome, go to a webpage, exit chrome, and then when I come back to chrome it starts reloading the page again. I've noticed it refreshes or restarts a ton of apps after I come back to them after a short amount of time and it never puts me where I last left off in the app. Even my two year old phones keep apps open longer.
What's up with this?

brian85 said:
Anyone else notice this?
For example. I'll open up chrome, go to a webpage, exit chrome, and then when I come back to chrome it starts reloading the page again. I've noticed it refreshes or restarts a ton of apps after I come back to them after a short amount of time and it never puts me where I last left off in the app. Even my two year old phones keep apps open longer.
What's up with this?
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There is a thread about this problem... it sucks and hope sammy fixes this issue soon.
Video of the problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw9PUlFUF0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/s6-vs-m9-vs-iphone-6-t3083188

brian85 said:
Anyone else notice this?
For example. I'll open up chrome, go to a webpage, exit chrome, and then when I come back to chrome it starts reloading the page again. I've noticed it refreshes or restarts a ton of apps after I come back to them after a short amount of time and it never puts me where I last left off in the app. Even my two year old phones keep apps open longer.
What's up with this?
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You have to setup your device properly then you have enough free ram for multitasking. Out of the box the system alone uses like 2gb+ of ram which is to much imo. Stock lollipop uses around ~500mb of ram. After all these years touchwiz is still a ramhog nr.1
Just some quick tips:
- use stock launcher from google or nova or other lightweight launchers
- deactivate facebook and messenger and almost every google app that you dont use
this alone will save you like 500mb ram alone. Everything else you'll find in the ram usage settings from there you can see what uses most ram and if you dont need it just deactivate or deinstall this ****.

vbauer86 said:
You have to setup your device properly then you have enough free ram for multitasking. Out of the box the system alone uses like 2gb+ of ram which is to much imo. Stock lollipop uses around ~500mb of ram. After all these years touchwiz is still a ramhog nr.1
Just some quick tips:
- use stock launcher from google or nova or other lightweight launchers
- deactivate facebook and messenger and almost every google app that you dont use
this alone will save you like 500mb ram alone. Everything else you'll find in the ram usage settings from there you can see what uses most ram and if you dont need it just deactivate or deinstall this ****.
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Problem is that I did not have this problem on my Note 3(with lollipop 5,0) so why should I have it on the touchwiz "lite" on the S6? same RAM on both devices.

johanbiff said:
There is a thread about this problem... it sucks and hope sammy fixes this issue soon.
Video of the problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw9PUlFUF0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/s6-vs-m9-vs-iphone-6-t3083188
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This issue is discussed in the other thread, but this one is appropriately named. The issue is driving me nuts, but I didn't find anyone else complaining until I saw this thread.
Bloat or no bloat, it's incomprehensible to me how you can't even have three apps running on a phone with 3 GB of ram. My OPO could easily have six or more apps running at the same time.

Well, my galaxy s6 is going back to T-Mobile. LG G4 here I come.

I don't think ram is the issue. I just checked: system is using 1.2gb of ram and apps using 400mb. I have over 1gb of free ram. That's a ton.

brian85 said:
I don't think ram is the issue. I just checked: system is using 1.2gb of ram and apps using 400mb. I have over 1gb of free ram. That's a ton.
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they will fix this, I think it`s just some bad RAM management.. I love this phone so far so I belive that sammy will fix this on an update

johanbiff said:
they will fix this, I think it`s just some bad RAM management.. I love this phone so far so I belive that sammy will fix this on an update
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I really like the phone too, but I'm constantly down to about 200-400 MB of RAM although I've removed most of the bloat and I'm not running any weird apps that I haven't used on other phones in the past.
Not too keen on rooting cause of all the warranty issues either...sure hope you're right about them fixing it.

You're not supposed to have free RAM...
Android’s operating system has its own native handler for assigning RAM to apps and making sure that all of it is being used in the most optimal way. In fact, Android purposely tries to keep apps loaded into RAM for better performance. RAM is fast, remember? On mobile devices, every bit of speed is critical for a good user experience, so keeping apps in RAM is actually a good thing.
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http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ram-boosters-task-killers-bad-android/
There definitely seems to be an issue with apps being closed too quickly but I don't think it has anything to do with the free RAM numbers you're looking at.

I wonder if there is anyway to submit something to samsung so they are aware of this issue. If this wasn't an issue, this phone would be nearly perfect.

incuvolta said:
You're not supposed to have free RAM...
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ram-boosters-task-killers-bad-android/
There definitely seems to be an issue with apps being closed too quickly but I don't think it has anything to do with the free RAM numbers you're looking at.
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Thanks, I know this. Doesn't change the fact that my OPO had about 600 MB more free RAM at any given moment and multitasked like a champ.
Hope they'll fix it soon.

Really don`t think it`s the issue with to low RAM, I belive this is a management issue or a bug thats just kills the apps to quickly or even maybe lollipop 5,0,2 issue that samsung missed? I sent samsung a mail about it yesterday so hopefully they will contact me back.

I'd be very interested to know whether someone who has rooted and changed the minfree settings still experience the issues described here.
Also, did you receive any response from Samsung, Johan?

brian85 said:
I wonder if there is anyway to submit something to samsung so they are aware of this issue. If this wasn't an issue, this phone would be nearly perfect.
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Call Samsung customer support. I did for the flash remaining lit, and they weren't even aware of it. We need to be notifying Samsung of these issues, not our carriers.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Galaxy-S6-exhibiting-overzealous-RAM-management-report-users_id68745
made a tip to phone arena about this, hopefully Samsung will get some eyes open so they can fix this.
B.R
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Fruktsallad said:
I'd be very interested to know whether someone who has rooted and changed the minfree settings still experience the issues described here.
Also, did you receive any response from Samsung, Johan?
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sorry no :\ but made a tip to phone arena about it and they announced it today so lets se what happens
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Galaxy-S6-exhibiting-overzealous-RAM-management-report-users_id68745
B.R

Same problem here. Sammy, please...

now also up on Sammobile site
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/28/poor-ram-management-affecting-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/

update is comming according to Samsung UK
just got this answer fron Sammy UK.
let`s see what will happen

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just got this answer fron Sammy UK.
let`s see what will happen
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Fingers crossed. Thanks johanbiff
Just a quick link to my S6 edge thread - also about same issue so we can all keep track of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/help/aggressive-ram-management-t3090492/page1
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now also up on Sammobile site
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/28/poor-ram-management-affecting-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/
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Also Gizmodo India
http://www.gizmodo.in/indiamodo/RAM...he-Samsung-Galaxy-S6/articleshow/47083669.cms