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Why no micro composite out on the Droid X, Incredible has it

Hello guys, I love my Droid X but watched some videos of people hooking up to composite (much better than HDMI, not so limited). Anyone know how we can get this on the Droid X? I have a nice stereo in my car that plays movies and would love to see exactly what I see on my droids screen on my stereo. I repeat the INcredible does this!!!! Thanks

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hdmi+to+composite+adapter
personally, every tv or screen in my house has hdmi, and I use bluetooth in the car while watching movies on the droid x, so it works pretty good for me.

did you check the google search before you made that link? it looks like he wants the out for his car, all that google brings up is set top boxes that do converting. which isn't mobile and probably isn't very easy to incorporate into a car.
I think your SOL buddy, the only option is to go with the htc inc, while it doesn't do HD out, it will broadcast all of the screen all the time, as opposed to the evo which i hear just does video output (youtube video players) and the droidx that only does gallery output

someone wants this over hdmi?

Technically HDMI is better than comp, comp is video only, no audio. Why would you do that? Not only that, HDMI can support higher resolution than comp, above 1080, not that it matters being that the X can only play 720. Just saying, why would you purposely limit yourself? its dumb.

I was wondering the same thing. And I'd prefer comp because my house isn't filled with hdtv's so outputting hdmi isn't all that helpful to me. This feature actually plays a big part with why I may be choosing the Incredible over the Droid X but if i could do this on the X, I may be easily swayed.
I would prefer to find an hdmi to component adapter.

well and theres no HDMI to comp "adapater" all the HDMI to comp products you see are full on hardwire that has a chip that has to read the HDMI and reformat the single to comp. so a whole box needing it's own power and what not isn't very usable for a phone.
unforently it's not like svid to comp something like that the single doesn't need to be reformatted. The big deal hear is you would need to go digital to analog and there's no way of doing that without serious hardware.
unforently the hdmi out on the phone isn't like hdmi or dvi out on a computer (that can pass a analog signal as well as digital.

USB to HDMI cable.

Anyone else seen this?
http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa..._ID=307505&PROD_SUB_ID=0&PROD_ID=558&EMAIL_ID

Yep. The US variants of the Galaxy S do Micro USB to HDMI out. Unfortunately, there are no cables available (yet) in order to have that kind of functionality. Samsung is planning to release that one.

we sell a USB to DVI /VGA ADAPTER for about $79. http://www.encore-usa.com/us/sites/default/files/product_file_datasheet/ENMUV-2_Spec_EN_1.pdf
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RDI said:
we sell a USB to DVI /VGA ADAPTER for about $79. http://www.encore-usa.com/us/sites/default/files/product_file_datasheet/ENMUV-2_Spec_EN_1.pdf
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wow that's really cheap?!

The Samsung one is $49 bucks (US) I think. Just wait I'm sure there will be a Chinese knock-off soon enough for pennys on the dollar.

kennethpenn said:
Yep. The US variants of the Galaxy S do Micro USB to HDMI out. Unfortunately, there are no cables available (yet) in order to have that kind of functionality. Samsung is planning to release that one.
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So assuming this weren't back-ordered, it would work on the captivate to say... watch movies?

Someone has to try it and see how it works. The Composite on the Captivate (headphone jack) is mirroring of the entire device UI.
But some other devices that use HDMI only allow certain apps to output to it, like the built in Samsung movie player. I think this is for copyright reasons. I am not sure what copy protections are built in but HDCP would be needed to play back licenenced Hi-Def videos like Blueray format.
Your own videos / downloaded ones / ripped correctly bluerays, etc. should all play in Hi-Def okay. There are still unanswered questions, but it seems like this cable will allow movies to be played back w/o issue.
I am getting one as soon as a 3rd party one hits the streets as it will probably be cheaper.

Mytouch 4G Slide Tv Out function

I'm not quite sure what tv out is, but I was wondering how I can connect my phone to my tv and view through my tv any content on my android phone. I have a mytouch 4g slide. For example, could I view the internet on my TV through my phone? Any help is greatly and desperately appreciated.
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The MT4GS does video out through its headphone jack. The pinout is the same as the cables for 5th Gen iPods, the one I have is the "Composite Video/Stereo Audio Output Cable for Original 5th Gen Apple iPod Video - 6ft" from monoprice for $1.43 (don't post enough here to link). It works well enough - the image quality is obviously only what you can get out of composite, which isn't great by modern standards, but it's fine for playing SD video or the like. The normal screen stays active, and the content is mirrored to the TV when connected.

PAPPPmAc said:
The MT4GS does video out through its headphone jack. The pinout is the same as the cables for 5th Gen iPods, the one I have is the "Composite Video/Stereo Audio Output Cable for Original 5th Gen Apple iPod Video - 6ft" from monoprice for $1.43 (don't post enough here to link). It works well enough - the image quality is obviously only what you can get out of composite, which isn't great by modern standards, but it's fine for playing SD video or the like. The normal screen stays active, and the content is mirrored to the TV when connected.
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i'm pretty sure it was advertised as 1080p playback. is this the only way to use tv out? maybe i'm wrong but i thought i saw this comment somewhere, which is why i was confused because this phone has no mini hdmi out like the g2x

http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Audio-V...BSU4/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1319380370&sr=8-8
Here you guys are I use the same thing to play video games and watch netflix.
Great graphics for an rca connection. Radio shack and best buy and 40 buks in stroe at least. I told em hell no lol.
Btw marco its a complete mirror of your phone. And when its flipped side ways it goes full screen or when an app is opened it goes full screen really cool!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192247
Here is the link to the original thread about this topic. The mt4gs records in 1080p, the tv out is not, nor have I ever heard the claim that our phone would out put at 1080p.

I have the iPod cable from Amazon. It works, quality is meh on a 1080p LCD, but it's good enough to share funny YouTube videos at a party or what have you.

It also works great with netflixs.

What Android phones support video out on headphone jack?

What Android phones support video out on headphone jack?
It seems like a feature every phone should support.
I would like to have a phone mirror the display to the dvd player in my car, which has composite inputs. 3.5 jack to composite is perfect. it would be nice to have google nav on a big screen, and listening to Pandora at the same time..

Your post made me curious about it, so I did a bit of searching. It seems the only phone capable of it is international (I guess this means non-US) versions of the Samsung Galaxy S. Then there are some tablets with this ability, particularly from Archos. But phones, it looks like it's only the Galaxy S.
The reason this isn't more widespread is that if a modern phone will go for video out, it'll be HDMI.

Gusar321 said:
Your post made me curious about it, so I did a bit of searching. It seems the only phone capable of it is international (I guess thing means non-US) versions of the Samsung Galaxy S. Then there are some tablets with this ability, particularly from Archos. But phones, it looks like it's only the Galaxy S.
The reason this isn't more widespread is that if a modern phone will go for video out, it'll be HDMI.
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That really is a bummer. I don't think that will work for composite video. I will do some searches, but i think my goal its now doa
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is it just me, or does this seem like something that could be enabled by a software patch?

mtmerrick said:
is it just me, or does this seem like something that could be enabled by a software patch?
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You would need a extra pin in the headphone jack.. Beyond that it should be only software. But i have a fascinate and no one has found out how to enable it yet.
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neh4pres said:
You would need a extra pin in the headphone jack.. Beyond that it should be only software. But i have a fascinate and no one has found out how to enable it yet.
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Why would you need an extra pin? There are more than enough in a standard plug, to carry a composite video signal.
Would just have to be a clever software package...
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Pretty sure its hardwired through the headphone amp. Its a hardware thing.. Putting video through a headphone amp would not be desirable. Now, with a 5th pin for video (which my phone has) then yea. Should just take software. But no one has cracked it yet.
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the mytouch 4g slide does with select a/v cables. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192247

neh4pres said:
What Android phones support video out on headphone jack?
It seems like a feature every phone should support.
I would like to have a phone mirror the display to the dvd player in my car, which has composite inputs. 3.5 jack to composite is perfect. it would be nice to have google nav on a big screen, and listening to Pandora at the same time..
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SGS i9000 has TV out on 3.5 jack you need the same 3.5 to RCA video cable as the one made by Nokia
i've used it before, quality is okay, it's RCA composite (think S-video quality in VHS), so don't expect much, it's not going to look like a USB to HDMI out quality

AllGamer said:
SGS i9000 has TV out on 3.5 jack you need the same 3.5 to RCA video cable as the one made by Nokia
i've used it before, quality is okay, it's RCA composite (think S-video quality in VHS), so don't expect much, it's not going to look like a USB to HDMI out quality
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I should have stated "Verizon device"lol
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TL;Dr, experiments led to Revelation: only two signals minimum needed.
so I was being weird, and bored, and I actually have a headphone to RCA jack. so what do I do? I send audio through the video port, and I see that the audio actually does cause images on the screen to appear. they may be simple white and black lines, but yea. It still works. the only thing someone needs to do in terms of sending a video to a TV, is recording the screen, converting said screen frame-by-frame into the RCA video code, and then sending that through one of the headphone signals. (Either left or right) and then taking both left and right audio signals, converting them into a mono audio, and then sending it out to the other one. boom! done... I would do this myself, but I Don't have the app-making know-how.

Xbox HDMI To Surface HDMI...Possible?

Well, this is more of a curiosity question than a practical. I was wondering if it was possible to get my Xbox running on my Surface screen, considering my surface is just a computer with a screen, I've tried HDMI to HDMI Mini, but I didn't think that would work... and it didn't.
Like I said, I don't need the answer, but it would be nice knowing I could play on my Xbox on the go.

No, Surface only has hdmi out and not hdmi in.

wardh said:
No, Surface only has hdmi out and not hdmi in.
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That's a Damn shame.

It's the same on all laptops. I've never yet seen a single one that could take HDMI in.

The only devices I have seen with HDMI in have been displays (of course) and video capture devices.
You can use a usb HDMI capture device as an input, bit latency on those things is sky high to the point that all games will be unplayable.
Otherwise. No computer to my knowledge has HDMI input abilities, including the surface.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
The only devices I have seen with HDMI in have been displays (of course) and video capture devices.
You can use a usb HDMI capture device as an input, bit latency on those things is sky high to the point that all games will be unplayable.
Otherwise. No computer to my knowledge has HDMI input abilities, including the surface.
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My question now is.... why? Is it a hardware issue? Too me it makes no sense, I can't work out why they wouldn't make it possible.

Dane Reynolds said:
My question now is.... why? Is it a hardware issue? Too me it makes no sense, I can't work out why they wouldn't make it possible.
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Yes, it hardware. It like you cannot put 3.5mm microphone jack into 3.5mm headphone jack on many mp3 player and phone. It design to output port. Not input port. Except some device that combine output/input port into one.

Processors and graphics cards only ever have HDMI output. Never input. It would be an intensive task to record an HDMI input.
Now you could suggest that they rewire tye HDMI port directly to the screen, sadly the screen is not an HDMI screen on a laptop or tablet. Its usually LDVS or DSI, the former is more common. HDMI to LDVS adaptors exist but would add cost to the device and increase the amount of electronics you need to fit inside the shell of the laptop or tablet, your already space restricted in there.

Cheers everyone

Actually, you can connect your Xbox's HDMI into the Surface Pro, if you have an HD PVR, or any similar HDMI Capture Card.

YamiHoshi said:
Actually, you can connect your Xbox's HDMI into the Surface Pro, if you have an HD PVR, or any similar HDMI Capture Card.
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Already mentioned capture devices. The latency on them (particularly USB ones) is just terrible. If your using a pass through capture card or hdmi splitter to play Xbox on the TV then the latency doesn't matter, but trust me, trying to play on your computer screen via a capture device is so bad that you might as well not play in the first place.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
Already mentioned capture devices. The latency on them (particularly USB ones) is just terrible. If your using a pass through capture card or hdmi splitter to play Xbox on the TV then the latency doesn't matter, but trust me, trying to play on your computer screen via a capture device is so bad that you might as well not play in the first place.
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I can confirm that 100% as I use a HDMI capture card on my desktop PC and it has a 50ms latency which is terrible, but I use it to record my Black Ops 2 videos from the in-game Vault so it's not a problem to me as I don't use it to directly play on it. But if I have such a huge latency, imagine that with a USB capture card like the Hauppauge HD-PVR ! It'd just be unplayable.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
Already mentioned capture devices. The latency on them (particularly USB ones) is just terrible. If your using a pass through capture card or hdmi splitter to play Xbox on the TV then the latency doesn't matter, but trust me, trying to play on your computer screen via a capture device is so bad that you might as well not play in the first place.
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I have an HDMI Capture Card via USB, and I know they're not meant to play on a Computer Screen.
Why should you even do that (unless you're without a TV, of course)?

YamiHoshi said:
I have an HDMI Capture Card via USB, and I know they're not meant to play on a Computer Screen.
Why should you even do that (unless you're without a TV, of course)?
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That is what was suggested, the OP asked can he play his xbox using the surface as a monitor. USB capture card would be the only way and ,as we have long established, has far too much latency

If only there was an Xbox emulator.
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If only there was an Xbox emulator.
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Try emulating a 3.5ghz triple core powerPC CPU on your 1.7ghz dual core surface pro and then come back and ask that question again
Hell, all those guys moaning about no backwards compatibility for the xbox one, there is a reason for no backwards compatibility. 360 uses PowerPC, one uses x86. Emulation will be needed. General rule, to emulate platform A on platform B, platform B must be 10 times more powerful than platform A. Its a general rule, but the xbox one does not meet that requirement yet is way more powerful than the surface is.
The xbox live indie games use XNA and .NET though. No backwards compatibility for them is an absolute joke. It would be relatively trivial for a corporation such as microsoft to have .NET running on the one (infact I would hazard a guess that it will be), why the hell dont they let the indige games carry on over???? But now I am getting off topic.
End conclusion, no Xbox > surface is really possible unless you are screen capturing on a surface pro which would still be an undesirable situation for playing games, only recording.

To be fair he might have meant the original Xbox, which at 500MHz single-core x86 is probably too computationally intensive for the Surface RT (beacuse of the need to emulate x86) but might be possible even so, and would be trivial for the Pro. However, Microsoft does not generally approve of such emulators.

Yeah, original Xbox could well draw on existing hardware but no one has had much success as of yet which is a shame.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
Yeah, original Xbox could well draw on existing hardware but no one has had much success as of yet which is a shame.
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Yeah that's what I meant. I have a Pro and currently run several emulators. I am aware of the 360 specs but was mistaken that this thread wasn't about Original Xbox.
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Original Xbox and pre elite 360s didn't have an HDMI out which is what was being discussed.