What Android phones support video out on headphone jack? - General Topics

What Android phones support video out on headphone jack?
It seems like a feature every phone should support.
I would like to have a phone mirror the display to the dvd player in my car, which has composite inputs. 3.5 jack to composite is perfect. it would be nice to have google nav on a big screen, and listening to Pandora at the same time..

Your post made me curious about it, so I did a bit of searching. It seems the only phone capable of it is international (I guess this means non-US) versions of the Samsung Galaxy S. Then there are some tablets with this ability, particularly from Archos. But phones, it looks like it's only the Galaxy S.
The reason this isn't more widespread is that if a modern phone will go for video out, it'll be HDMI.

Gusar321 said:
Your post made me curious about it, so I did a bit of searching. It seems the only phone capable of it is international (I guess thing means non-US) versions of the Samsung Galaxy S. Then there are some tablets with this ability, particularly from Archos. But phones, it looks like it's only the Galaxy S.
The reason this isn't more widespread is that if a modern phone will go for video out, it'll be HDMI.
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That really is a bummer. I don't think that will work for composite video. I will do some searches, but i think my goal its now doa
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is it just me, or does this seem like something that could be enabled by a software patch?

mtmerrick said:
is it just me, or does this seem like something that could be enabled by a software patch?
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You would need a extra pin in the headphone jack.. Beyond that it should be only software. But i have a fascinate and no one has found out how to enable it yet.
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neh4pres said:
You would need a extra pin in the headphone jack.. Beyond that it should be only software. But i have a fascinate and no one has found out how to enable it yet.
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Why would you need an extra pin? There are more than enough in a standard plug, to carry a composite video signal.
Would just have to be a clever software package...
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Pretty sure its hardwired through the headphone amp. Its a hardware thing.. Putting video through a headphone amp would not be desirable. Now, with a 5th pin for video (which my phone has) then yea. Should just take software. But no one has cracked it yet.
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the mytouch 4g slide does with select a/v cables. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192247

neh4pres said:
What Android phones support video out on headphone jack?
It seems like a feature every phone should support.
I would like to have a phone mirror the display to the dvd player in my car, which has composite inputs. 3.5 jack to composite is perfect. it would be nice to have google nav on a big screen, and listening to Pandora at the same time..
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SGS i9000 has TV out on 3.5 jack you need the same 3.5 to RCA video cable as the one made by Nokia
i've used it before, quality is okay, it's RCA composite (think S-video quality in VHS), so don't expect much, it's not going to look like a USB to HDMI out quality

AllGamer said:
SGS i9000 has TV out on 3.5 jack you need the same 3.5 to RCA video cable as the one made by Nokia
i've used it before, quality is okay, it's RCA composite (think S-video quality in VHS), so don't expect much, it's not going to look like a USB to HDMI out quality
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I should have stated "Verizon device"lol
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TL;Dr, experiments led to Revelation: only two signals minimum needed.
so I was being weird, and bored, and I actually have a headphone to RCA jack. so what do I do? I send audio through the video port, and I see that the audio actually does cause images on the screen to appear. they may be simple white and black lines, but yea. It still works. the only thing someone needs to do in terms of sending a video to a TV, is recording the screen, converting said screen frame-by-frame into the RCA video code, and then sending that through one of the headphone signals. (Either left or right) and then taking both left and right audio signals, converting them into a mono audio, and then sending it out to the other one. boom! done... I would do this myself, but I Don't have the app-making know-how.

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Mytouch 4G Slide Tv Out function

I'm not quite sure what tv out is, but I was wondering how I can connect my phone to my tv and view through my tv any content on my android phone. I have a mytouch 4g slide. For example, could I view the internet on my TV through my phone? Any help is greatly and desperately appreciated.
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The MT4GS does video out through its headphone jack. The pinout is the same as the cables for 5th Gen iPods, the one I have is the "Composite Video/Stereo Audio Output Cable for Original 5th Gen Apple iPod Video - 6ft" from monoprice for $1.43 (don't post enough here to link). It works well enough - the image quality is obviously only what you can get out of composite, which isn't great by modern standards, but it's fine for playing SD video or the like. The normal screen stays active, and the content is mirrored to the TV when connected.
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The MT4GS does video out through its headphone jack. The pinout is the same as the cables for 5th Gen iPods, the one I have is the "Composite Video/Stereo Audio Output Cable for Original 5th Gen Apple iPod Video - 6ft" from monoprice for $1.43 (don't post enough here to link). It works well enough - the image quality is obviously only what you can get out of composite, which isn't great by modern standards, but it's fine for playing SD video or the like. The normal screen stays active, and the content is mirrored to the TV when connected.
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i'm pretty sure it was advertised as 1080p playback. is this the only way to use tv out? maybe i'm wrong but i thought i saw this comment somewhere, which is why i was confused because this phone has no mini hdmi out like the g2x
http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Audio-V...BSU4/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1319380370&sr=8-8
Here you guys are I use the same thing to play video games and watch netflix.
Great graphics for an rca connection. Radio shack and best buy and 40 buks in stroe at least. I told em hell no lol.
Btw marco its a complete mirror of your phone. And when its flipped side ways it goes full screen or when an app is opened it goes full screen really cool!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192247
Here is the link to the original thread about this topic. The mt4gs records in 1080p, the tv out is not, nor have I ever heard the claim that our phone would out put at 1080p.
I have the iPod cable from Amazon. It works, quality is meh on a 1080p LCD, but it's good enough to share funny YouTube videos at a party or what have you.
It also works great with netflixs.

Good bluetooth headphones?

Anyone know of any high quality bluetooth headphones with a mic? They would have to be the in ear kind. I'm willing to spend up to 200. I've been searching around and their really aren't that many to choose from. I work in security and most of the time I'm baby sitting empty buildings so they would have to be descret enough not to be noticed on the camera's if anyone choose to review them. Taking all suggestions. Bluetooth is kinda my last resort.. I really don't want to part with my CM7. Lol
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Anyone know of any high quality bluetooth headphones with a mic? They would have to be the in ear kind. I'm willing to spend up to 200. I've been searching around and their really aren't that many to choose from. I work in security and most of the time I'm baby sitting empty buildings so they would have to be descret enough not to be noticed on the camera's if anyone choose to review them. Taking all suggestions. Bluetooth is kinda my last resort.. I really don't want to part with my CM7. Lol
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Have you looked into these? They got crazy good reviews when they released. Sweatproof, small, secure.
I've wanted a pair since they dropped but still have my Moto S9's so I can't justify it. I wish those damn things would break already!
http://www.jaybirdgear.com/jf3/bluetooth-headphones-features.html
Try the Motorola Sliver Elite. It will not be noticed. And it works great.
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Have you looked into these? They got crazy good reviews when they released. Sweatproof, small, secure.
I've wanted a pair since they dropped but still have my Moto S9's so I can't justify it. I wish those damn things would break already!
http://www.jaybirdgear.com/jf3/bluetooth-headphones-features.html
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Yeah, I've read a lot of good things about those. I also had the Moto s9's Hd and not. Hd's were much better but still sucked. SOOO MUCH STATIC. whenever the music would go down or change songs I would hate myself because it sounded terrible. I convinced myself that I needed them because I felt like my wire got stuck everywhere. Anyway, long story short got myself these. Never looked back. The only problem I forsee is they are sound proof.
http://www.klipsch.com/image-s4-black-in-ear-headphones
The i's pause button will work.. play sometimes. It will work with the last music player app you add.. it's weird. I know. If you have any questions pm me.
Edit: Both of my motorola's broke in one way or another. One the speaker ripped out because I dropped it, and the other.. just stopped working? Idk.. I had to send it in for something and they sent me a new one... the HD set.
djabby said:
Try the Motorola Sliver Elite. It will not be noticed. And it works great.
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I think the OP wanted something stereo.
I'm finding there's not many high end in ear bluetooth headphones. So I might just give up on bluetooth altogether. But thanks for the input.
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Erik_T said:
Yeah, I've read a lot of good things about those. I also had the Moto s9's Hd and not. Hd's were much better but still sucked. SOOO MUCH STATIC. whenever the music would go down or change songs I would hate myself because it sounded terrible. I convinced myself that I needed them because I felt like my wire got stuck everywhere. Anyway, long story short got myself these. Never looked back. The only problem I forsee is they are sound proof.
http://www.klipsch.com/image-s4-black-in-ear-headphones
The i's pause button will work.. play sometimes. It will work with the last music player app you add.. it's weird. I know. If you have any questions pm me.
Edit: Both of my motorola's broke in one way or another. One the speaker ripped out because I dropped it, and the other.. just stopped working? Idk.. I had to send it in for something and they sent me a new one... the HD set.
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QFT..
Carnifex3 said:
I'm finding there's not many high end in ear bluetooth headphones. So I might just give up on bluetooth altogether. But thanks for the input.
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well that is simple. Just buy a stereo receiver and you can use what ever headset you prefer. I prefer ITA (in the ear) speakers
You can use this one:
http://www.all4cellular.com/wired-headsets/samsung-hs3000-bluetooth-stereo-headset.html
or this one
http://www.all4cellular.com/wired-h...600-hi-fi-wireless-headset-with-fm-radio.html
I bought a Zonda bluetooth Stereo Headset. and sound very good. are very cheap
Like This http: //goo.gl/SLxUb
lolote said:
I bought a Zonda bluetooth Stereo Headset. and sound very good. are very cheap
Like This http: //goo.gl/SLxUb
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OK, so I'm watching a movie -through Infuse- via the HDMI port and I'm receiving a call (on Infuse)
Would I be able to take the call and leave the rest of the family enjoying the movie?
I'm asking this because in theory Android can/could drive two different sound (one through HDMI, another through my bluetooth headset/handsfree for calls), but is this possible IN PRACTICE?
Has anyone tried that?
I'm sorry for the question, but I do not own a BT headset and depending on the answer to the above I will decide on buying it/that. I have no qualms installing custom roms if need be...
Stevethegreat said:
OK, so I'm watching a movie -through Infuse- via the HDMI port and I'm receiving a call (on Infuse)
Would I be able to take the call and leave the rest of the family enjoying the movie?
I'm asking this because in theory Android can/could drive two different sound (one through HDMI, another through my bluetooth headset/handsfree for calls), but is this possible IN PRACTICE?
Has anyone tried that?
I'm sorry for the question, but I do not own a BT headset and depending on the answer to the above I will decide on buying it/that. I have no qualms installing custom roms if need be...
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I know that you can't go take a picture that it was in picture mode... if you're really watching a family movie on your phone and you get a call, then I would recommend using your wife's phone..lol. I doubt that it would work..
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bluetooth headphones
I have the jaybird JP3MB bluetooth headphones. I think they are superb. I can tell you when listening to music taking a call will pause the music and it resumes upon hangup. I would think movies might do the same thing.
Not In-ear but over the ear...
I have the Arctic P311 Bluetooth Stereo Headphones, paid $34 for them locally (via Amazon). They sound great flat and even better with some EQ. I would like to see/hear the difference between them and these other seemingly overpriced Bluetooth headphones.
I was going to purchase the Nokia BT headphones but saw these and at $34 what risk is there???
Not disappointed at all!
Sure they might not sound as great as ones plugged directly into the phone, but they don't sound bad at all and more than acceptable especially with all the stuff I've heard about Bluetooth SQ.
I originally bought these for my Pantech Link which has no phone output. You can buy a special connector that goes into where you make the connection to charge the phone and for data connection as well.
I highly recommend the Plantronics Backbeat 903+. I've had them for a few months, and use them whenever working out. The call/mic quality is pretty good, as is the music/speaker quality. My only complaint would be that it's a little flat on the bass end; other than that, I really like them.
My friend tried them out once, and bought a pair the same day. His, however, stopped working after a couple runs on the treadmill. He thinks it's because he sweats a lot and they got wet. Plantronics replaced them free of charge and he never had the same issue again.
There are actually a newer version of them out now, called the Backbeat Go. I haven't tried them, so I have no idea how they sound or feel. They seem like they'd be more comfortable to wear, especially when running or working out.
i can vouch for the first reply; i got a pair of jaybird jf3's and they work amazingly well. pricey, but worth it
Sony Ericsson MW-600 Bluetooth Stereo Headphones with FM radio
I have the Sony Ericsson MW-600 Bluetooth Stereo Headphones
Stereo Bluetooth® Capability : A2DP, AVRCP
Digital Signal Processing (DSP) : YES
Headphone Type : 3.5mm headphone connector with high quality ear buds
Auto Pairing : YES
FM Radio : Built-in FM Radio with RDS radio station information (can control the station from the headset)
Multipoint : YES (connects up to 3 devices)
Color : Argentum Black
Compatibiity : For use with devices incorporating Bluetooth Headset or Handsfree profiles.
Battery Life (Approx) : Talk time: up to 8.5 hours2, Standby time: up to 600 hours2
Easy redialing : Yes
Battery Life : YES
Caller ID : YES (name3 & phone number)
Others : Time, local FM radio, pairing info
Track ID : YES
Bluetooth® Technology : Range: up to 10 meters from your phone, Bluetooth® 2.1 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate) technology
3.5mm Audio Jack : YES
Dimensions (Approx.) : 62mm x 15mm x 17.5mm (including clip)
Weight (Approx.) : 13g

Where on Earth is the Stereoclip?

I can't find this thing anywhere in the US. Not Amazon, not Sprint, nowhere. I'd really REALLY like to get one. I installed a hidden Aux jack and USB in my car just for this device and I can't find one.
If there's a comparable piece of hardware out there that sounds as good, point me to it, it doesn't need to be HTC, just needs to work and not sound like a tin can like my Belkin.
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-car-stereoclip-audio-bridge-a100.html
HTCPedia seems to be the only one selling it. Got mine a few weeks ago, seems to work great.
Forget the HTC StereoClip. I use the Samsung HS3000 bluetooth stereo clip (it's pretty much the same thing...). It costs half as much and does the exact same thing. I'm pretty sure it uses the same APT-X codec that the HTC one does too. All you lose out on is the built in jack so you're gonna have to provide your own aux cable.
The only difference in sound quality that I can hear vs a direct aux connection is that you lose a small bit of bass, but that's to be expected since you're streaming over bluetooth anyway.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Stere...qid=1341518840&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+hs3000
Edit: Also, the Samsung one uses Bluetooth 3.0, I'm not sure what the HTC one uses (either 3.0 or 4.0)
Edit 2: AND there's 3 "audio profiles" (manual says 5 but it lies) built into the Samsung one that you can change with a push of a button. One sounds like a tin can, one is "normal" and I believe one boosts bass a tad...though I can't really tell too much of a difference from the normal setting.
There are a few options. Sprints b&m stores and online site and att online site.
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Here's the one I have - http://www.amazon.com/Miccus-BluBri...sr=8-1&keywords=bluebridge+bluetooth+receiver
works great.
stnguyen09 said:
Forget the HTC StereoClip. I use the Samsung HS3000 bluetooth stereo clip (it's pretty much the same thing...). It costs half as much and does the exact same thing. I'm pretty sure it uses the same APT-X codec that the HTC one does too. All you lose out on is the built in jack so you're gonna have to provide your own aux cable.
The only difference in sound quality that I can hear vs a direct aux connection is that you lose a small bit of bass, but that's to be expected since you're streaming over bluetooth anyway.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Stere...qid=1341518840&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+hs3000
Edit: Also, the Samsung one uses Bluetooth 3.0, I'm not sure what the HTC one uses (either 3.0 or 4.0)
Edit 2: AND there's 3 "audio profiles" (manual says 5 but it lies) built into the Samsung one that you can change with a push of a button. One sounds like a tin can, one is "normal" and I believe one boosts bass a tad...though I can't really tell too much of a difference from the normal setting.
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This one doesn't sound light/tinny to you? I've tried this one and it just sounded very flat or tinny no matter which setting it was on.
I just don't think Bluetooth 3.x was ever up to the challenge for lossless audio streaming. The HTC uses 4.0 and is supposedly using lossless streaming, but I haven't heard it yet.
Anyone know if the HTC Stereoclip will work with an AOSP ROM?
xeper said:
This one doesn't sound light/tinny to you? I've tried this one and it just sounded very flat or tinny no matter which setting it was on.
I just don't think Bluetooth 3.x was ever up to the challenge for lossless audio streaming. The HTC uses 4.0 and is supposedly using lossless streaming, but I haven't heard it yet.
Anyone know if the HTC Stereoclip will work with an AOSP ROM?
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It doesn't sound tinny at all to me...or maybe my ears are just broken. I don't hear any difference between it and a direct aux connection except for the slight loss of bass I mentioned before. I mean...I can see things being a bit flatter than with a direct connection but not enough that I would complain about it.
xeper said:
This one doesn't sound light/tinny to you? I've tried this one and it just sounded very flat or tinny no matter which setting it was on.
I just don't think Bluetooth 3.x was ever up to the challenge for lossless audio streaming. The HTC uses 4.0 and is supposedly using lossless streaming, but I haven't heard it yet.
Anyone know if the HTC Stereoclip will work with an AOSP ROM?
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Stereo clip should work with aosp rom because it supports older profile but to get lossless you need apt-X profile.
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I bought mine from Sprint online.
Rabble rabble rabble.
I don't see it on Sprint's site?
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dac/sound quality ?

I've done a bit of searching but hvaen't been able to find much info. Does the tf700 have a decent dac (i know the speakers are said to be weak; but how about audio out to headphones/iem ) ?
Should it be on par/worse/better than the tf101 ? Hum. Actually i don't even know if the dac is built into the tegra 3 line or if asus picks the chip.
jake21 said:
I've done a bit of searching but hvaen't been able to find much info. Does the tf700 have a decent dac (i know the speakers are said to be weak; but how about audio out to headphones/iem ) ?
Should it be on par/worse/better than the tf101 ? Hum. Actually i don't even know if the dac is built into the tegra 3 line or if asus picks the chip.
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My infinity wont be here until tomorrow but I did some tests with my TF201 before I sold it and it sounded just fine. Just as good, if not better than my mac mini HTPC. I was using power amp and 320K MP3's to a good ONKYO amp and JBL speakers....
Got my. 700 today. Really a slick tab overall, but the speaker is terrible,especialy coming from the a700. At least i get smooth playback now. Too quiet and tinny to even consider close to functional, definately requires an audio out of somesort.
Edit suppose i should mention im already using equalizer to boost it.
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First of all, I'm not an audiophile person.
Just testing now playing flac from built in music player on Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80 ohm.
On full volume on the tf700 it is loud enuf, but it seems to my untrained ear that it cant really drive the headset to the max on the bass side.
Hmm. Just did a side-by-side comparison with my computer (using some 3-4 years old logitech 2.1 setup) and the bass seems better on the infinity then on my computer. A richer sound. And it drives the headset generally better. I'm really suprised by that actually.. Maybe time to by a DAC for my computer I guess.
Actually, the DAC is a basic one and, as on every "mainstream" hardware, it lacks a lot of bass (I tried it through custom in-ears). However, what really made me throw the idea of using it as a true nomad player is the constant background noise that is especially strong (as on every phone). I don't know how to name this phenomenon in English (in French it is called "souffle", meaning blow or whistle) but it really ruins the experience on sensitive in-ears (and especially with quiet music).
Bottom line : it's better than a phone, (and even most MP3 players) but it is not made to drive high-end monitors.
What I would love to see, and I will try to give it a look, is the ability to use an USB DAC on this tablet. After all, it shouldn't be impossible (especially if we get another OS to run on it).
Ok. I ended up picking one of these. I have a tf101 to compare. The tf101 speakers are a lot louder (this surprise me as the tf101 is already a bit soft); with my iem (a161) the tf101 gets marginally louder (I think) but the tf700 is clearer more concise. I did not try any sort of equilizer or other widget that might adjust the sound quality. The media is very high audio. I forget the bit rate but it is excessively high track from blu-ray.
Ralganaziel said:
Actually, the DAC is a basic one and, as on every "mainstream" hardware, it lacks a lot of bass (I tried it through custom in-ears). However, what really made me throw the idea of using it as a true nomad player is the constant background noise that is especially strong (as on every phone). I don't know how to name this phenomenon in English (in French it is called "souffle", meaning blow or whistle) but it really ruins the experience on sensitive in-ears (and especially with quiet music).
Bottom line : it's better than a phone, (and even most MP3 players) but it is not made to drive high-end monitors.
What I would love to see, and I will try to give it a look, is the ability to use an USB DAC on this tablet. After all, it shouldn't be impossible (especially if we get another OS to run on it).
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For audio via USB, you will have to wait for the Jelly Bean update as it was one of the major feature that was added to it. ICS does not support audio out via USB.
Nice! I ordered Ann Asus Xonar Essence One just ten minutes before reading this. :-D
ajamils said:
For audio via USB, you will have to wait for the Jelly Bean update as it was one of the major feature that was added to it. ICS does not support audio out via USB.
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That's a great news you are giving me... Can't wait to see Jelly Bean on my Transformer !
Ralganaziel said:
That's a great news you are giving me... Can't wait to see Jelly Bean on my Transformer !
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JB/USB Audio is one of the reasons I got Nexus 7. Now just waiting for the micro USB OTG cable to arrive so that I can test it out with Fio E17.
thephreak99 said:
Nice! I ordered Ann Asus Xonar Essence One just ten minutes before reading this. :-D
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Awesome piece of equipment!
ajamils said:
For audio via USB, you will have to wait for the Jelly Bean update as it was one of the major feature that was added to it. ICS does not support audio out via USB.
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Oh! That's a great news... but still it is a big question if my external USB dac (Arcam rDAC) will "understand" Android system... manufacturer of DAC has to release drivers for Android ...I guess???
Talking about TF700's volume level... it is far lower than most of other android/iOS devices I've heard (TF101, iPad 2, HTC desire, samsung galaxy s2...)... ...it makes me fuzzy a bit.
Yes the external speakers are the worse ever; shame on asus. Using IEM's max volume is nearly same as tf101 but mine has low impedance. Were you talking about the use of IEM/headphones or the external speaker.
SurferLTU said:
Oh! That's a great news... but still it is a big question if my external USB dac (Arcam rDAC) will "understand" Android system... manufacturer of DAC has to release drivers for Android ...I guess???
Talking about TF700's volume level... it is far lower than most of other android/iOS devices I've heard (TF101, iPad 2, HTC desire, samsung galaxy s2...)... ...it makes me fuzzy a bit.
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SurferLTU said:
Talking about TF700's volume level... it is far lower than most of other android/iOS devices I've heard (TF101, iPad 2, HTC desire, samsung galaxy s2...)... ...it makes me fuzzy a bit.
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WTH is wrong with Asus. Why can't they put decent speakers on a "high end" device?
I agree that the rear facing speaker is unfortunate. I certainly had issues with getting the proper sound from it and covering the speaker with my hand. I also had it completely stop working until I rebooted.
I've spent the last hour or so streaming music on a fairly slow wifi connection via Play Music and DI Radio to my LG BT headset. Overall I've found the sound quality to be an improvement from my SGS2 but I do notice the very occasional and small skip or missed note. I'm not sure if this is an issue with my wifi being slow or my headset. I guess I'll keep on eye on this over the weekend and see how the sound performance is on a different headset and jambox w/ fast wifi or locally stored music.
With other laptops that I have I use the USB connections through a Dragonfly DAC to bypass to bypass their internal DAC's which are generally not very good. The Asus sound to a decent amp is not good (no resolution or detail in the upper midrange and above using either the earphone jack or USB with the external DAC). The only answer, it seems, is to use another computer for music, which I now do.
I've been using a fifo 10 (usb dac) with my computer but to be honest since sandy bridge most dacs on computers are decent enough. As for this tablet sold it a long time ago - i have a 12 inch samsung pro but it is now dated and looking for a new 12 inch tablet but no one makes a decent one. 10 inch doesn't work for myself. Either I want 8 inch for around the house or 12 inch for travel.

Audio Quality via USB C dongle

Can anyone tell me what the quality of the audio is like via the USB C dongle into in-ear headphones?
I'm coming from the HTC 10 and love the audio output on this device and what to know if HTC has managed to achieve similar levels of audio on the HTC u12+.
I came from the HTC 10 as well, and honestly, I think it sounds better using these than the headphones it came with. That Razer dongle with built-in DAC is amazing.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07798HM3H/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.htc.com/us/accessories-b/#!pid=htc-10&acc=htc-pro-studio-earphones
holz75 said:
I came from the HTC 10 as well, and honestly, I think it sounds better using these than the headphones it came with. That Razer dongle with built-in DAC is amazing.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07798HM3H/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.htc.com/us/accessories-b/#!pid=htc-10&acc=htc-pro-studio-earphones
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Thanks for letting me know about the audio quality via the Razor USB C dongle. This makes it even more tempting to pull the trigger and get the HTC U12+.
I've been toying between this and the Oneplus 6, due to the fact it's got a 3.mm headphone jack, but I'd be worried the audio wouldn't be too much and I'd need to start messing around with lots of mods to get it sounding good.
Just need to save a bit more now!
greenza said:
Thanks for letting me know about the audio quality via the Razor USB C dongle. This makes it even more tempting to pull the trigger and get the HTC U12+.
I've been toying between this and the Oneplus 6, due to the fact it's got a 3.mm headphone jack, but I'd be worried the audio wouldn't be too much and I'd need to start messing around with lots of mods to get it sounding good.
Just need to save a bit more now!
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Even with the current HTC USB-C-to-3.5mm dongle it sounds much better. Even better than on the U11. The Razor dongle, as far as I heard might add a little bit more to it, but that's kind of personal taste.
Using the JBL USB-C Reflect Aware ANC headphones currently. Those are damn great In-Ears.
Sent from my HTC U12+ using XDA Labs
I came from a HTC 10 and had a hard time finding something that sounds as good... The HTC oem 3.5 adapter is sold out everywhere so i haven't tried that one. I have tried 4 different adapters from Amazon, one generic and 3 that are supposed to include a decent DAC. The only adapter i have tried that was as good as the HTC 10 is the Razer adapter, in my opinion it actually sounds a little better.
jcallaway77 said:
I came from a HTC 10 and had a hard time finding something that sounds as good... The HTC oem 3.5 adapter is sold out everywhere so i haven't tried that one. I have tried 4 different adapters from Amazon, one generic and 3 that are supposed to include a decent DAC. The only adapter i have tried that was as good as the HTC 10 is the Razer adapter, in my opinion it actually sounds a little better.
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HTC Adapters in fact sounds different on U11 and U12+. It's weird, but it's better on the U12+.
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Pretty sure HTCs adapter is passtrough.
Maybe it just has an amp or something simple built in.
greenza said:
Can anyone tell me what the quality of the audio is like via the USB C dongle into in-ear headphones?
I'm coming from the HTC 10 and love the audio output on this device and what to know if HTC has managed to achieve similar levels of audio on the HTC u12+.
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Currently testing the official adapter dongle... using MDR-1A and spotify highest quality.
I am incredibly impressed with the quality offered by HTC... The dongle appears very good at maintaining quality, as long as your set of headphones are also good quality.
I'm quite disappointed in the quality of the included USB-C earbuds (after so much marketing of U-Sonic and ANC I was expecting something better. HTC 10's included buds were much better.)
The included earbuds truly don't reflect the quality this phone is capable of.
1 complaint, not about the dongle, the U12+ native frequency signature is a lot on the bassy side (at times, though rarely, overpowering) and the sound stage separation could be slightly wider for my tastes. (Though I've been thoroughly spoiled by using Dolby Atmos on the HTC 10).
As mentioned this complaint isn't about the dongle but the phone itself.
So if you have a good set of headphones jump deep, you won't be disappointed.
Though if you do decide to save and buy an OP6, my best advice is take those savings and buy a very decent BT headphone, because BT audio has less loss of quality than 3.5mm, as the DAC and AMP are on the headphones themselves instead of cheap ones on the OP6.
Jorgp2 said:
Pretty sure HTCs adapter is passtrough.
Maybe it just has an amp or something simple built in.
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Though I can't prove it without further research (which I will def do), I'm inclined to disagree.
The adapter requires an app to provide firmware updates... Generally speaking AMPs are too simple to need firmware updates.
Also, i'm looking at mine now... and the case is HUGE... I don't see why an AMP would need such a huge case
Now, my gf has an iPhone 7, and her adapter has a much smaller case, I'm inclined to say her adapter is a passthrough. Though not HTC. It looks like a DAC + AMP combo.
As I said, I can't prove it without a teardown, but logical analysis would guide me to the above conclusion.

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