Somewhat recently team XDANDROID released an Android build for WM. However these ROM's only work with the HTC devices they were intended to work on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601751
For those of us without an HTC device, I was wondering if it would be possible to create a universal ROM for designated screen sizes (one for qvga, one for vga, etc) and have them work on devices that are powerful enough, with the appropriate resolution. Or do you just have to create one for each phone?
I personally own a Samsung Epix (i907), and I am extremely disappointed in Samsung's job of porting WM, and releasing the 6.5 update (it was supposed to come out in December, it keeps getting delayed. They did this with the Blackjack II when 6.0 came out) and am not a huge fan of the available ROM.
If not, is there a possible workaround to let me use android on my device? Like an emulator of some sorts? All m searches have turned up nothing useful.
Well.. Making a universal ROM would be extremely difficult, and a HUGE ROM.. Because you'll need drivers for every device then..
Yea TheDeadCpue is right. That would be too much... I know how you feel because I own an i907 as my main phone and im very disappointed in the rom developments. Hopefully we receive our official one this month and we might have a new cook making rooms for us next month!
Just waiting for a Andriod ROM for the HD2!
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We all have read about HTC wanting to be the first to come out with an Android handset. But my question is this, what is the likelihood of HTC having official roms of Android for some of the other current phones (IE the Kaiser, Touch, and Titan).
Just wondering if my TILT is going to be (officially) stuck with Windows Mobile for the next 2 years.....
same question i want an answer for.... i really wanna rid myself of this slooooooo wm os....
Official version put out by HTC? Doubtful.
Various cooked versions put out by the good people here at XDA? Almost certainly.
Exactly. There's no way HTC would cannibalize their success with an hipothetical Android based machine by offering this ROM for other devices.
But, of course, cooked ROMs are possible. The key factor here is hardware compatibility and drivers. If the official HTC Android ROMs are tied to some specific chipset and only have the drivers for that, you're out of luck.
Why is everyone so anti wm. I love it. There are advantages to having an os with an api so close to the desktop, ie many developers because its easy to learn.
I don't mind WM too much. Hey, we knew what we got when we bought our phones didn't we? I would like the choice of android however. Choice is always good and maybe it'll be better than what we have now. I'd say unofficial releases of Android for popular devices are likely. Just like we got unofficial WM6 releases.
As much as I think WM can be improved, i;d like to actually see and use android before I anoint it as a savior to smartphone/pda users.
Anything can look great in a controlled demo on YouTube. Let's see someone live with it for a week and then decide if its truly a replacement.
The iPhone UI, while quite impressive, still can't do half of what the WM phones can today. Yet the media love to say its the greatest thing on earth. I'm happy the iPhone Ui inspired lots of new WM development, but in the end, I still have a WM phone. And have bought to devices since the iPhone went live.
Want to run Android on Kaiser?
Check this out - running in an emulator via haret...
http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/latest_builds
WinMo >>>>>> all other mobile operating systems....
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Check this out - running in an emulator via haret...
http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/latest_builds
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Haret is not an emulator, it´s a bootloader. WM shuts down when you boot Android with Haret.
I just saw this
http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/17/windows-mobile-6-5-to-officially-launch-on-may-11/
Does anyone know how this release will work? will HTC pick this up and offer it as a upgrade on there recent devices like they did with WM6.1?
I really Hope this is the case.
From what I've heard about this, "release" only means the emulator images will be officially released, maybe along with a little showcase from Microsoft. Windows Mobile 6.5 shouldn't officially hit devices for a while after that (I'm guessing a month or two at the very least).
However, XDA's fine community of ROM chefs will have this running on every device long before HTC. And although Microsoft's official upgrade guidelines require only that the device have at least a 400MHz processor and 128MB RAM, the OEM has the final say in whether a device gets an official upgrade or not. HTC has only confirmed that the Touch Pro2 and Diamond2 will get official upgrades, but the MIX '09 conference had a Touch Pro running 6.5, so at least we know it can run it alright.
In my poor old Kaiser's case, I'm positive I won't get an official one; HTC wants me to buy a new device, not to keep using my old one. That doesn't make them any money. But like I said, the brilliant chefs will have this running on every un-upgraded eligible device in no time. But I think the answer is maybe/yes, in the sense that very recent HTC devices will get officially upgraded.
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Hi guys.
am not sure if this is the right place to ask or not but there isnt a section for it as yet so asking here only.
I really liked the specs of the upcoming HTC Leo, and might wana buy it in christmas.
but there is one thing i want to know is that being such an advanced device with 1ghz processor, 320mb ram, capacitative 4.3" screen, is it ready for a WM7 update?
any idea on that?
and if its not and MS want a much stronger device then is MS trying to bring WM7 to netbooks or what? cause anything more that HTC Leo is not going to be a CelPhone Device.
IF someone knows anything then do clear this plz.
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Hi guys.
am not sure if this is the right place to ask or not but there isnt a section for it as yet so asking here only.
I really liked the specs of the upcoming HTC Leo, and might wana buy it in christmas.
but there is one thing i want to know is that being such an advanced device with 1ghz processor, 320mb ram, capacitative 4.3" screen, is it ready for a WM7 update?
any idea on that?
and if its not and MS want a much stronger device then is MS trying to bring WM7 to netbooks or what? cause anything more that HTC Leo is not going to be a CelPhone Device.
IF someone knows anything then do clear this plz.
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I think the Leo will support the upgrade to WM 7, there are plenty of web pages which talk about it, for example i read this one: http://www.gsmdome.com/htc/htc-leo-supports-windows-mobile-7-upgrade-first_9955
am really glad 2read dat. i hope dat its true.
Despite the hardware, don't expect any OS or Manila upgrades for HTC devices as long as they are not officially announced as from the release. I reckon that HTC will not provide any CE7 upgrade for the HTC Leo - that's typical HTC support, you'll see - that's also the experience from the Diamond and Blackstone devices with regards to WM6.5. Of course, there will be CE7 ROMs which can be flashed on an unofficial basis.
Georgeous2008, WM7/CE7 can't just be "ported" to current WM6/CE5 devices, so don't claim that for sure. I heard the whole kernel and driver structures are different. The only chance of backporting WM7 is if a device with (almost) exactly the same hardware gets released with WM7.
Specs say there will be a WM7 upgrade. They meet all the requirements of WM7, including things that don't really make sense in WM6.5, such as the digital compass and the capacitive screen. Neither are extensively supported in WM6.5, but are requirements for WM7.
That does't guarantee that HTC will provide a WM7 upgrade, of course.
basically, it has sufficient hardware specs, but it is unlikely that HTC will provide an update like with the td2 and tpro 2 with winmo 6.5
But there MAY be a chance of you being able to flash it IF ROMs can be created but nothing can be said as of yet
having a mammoth device like leo and using it for wm6.5 aint full justice to the power it has. and it'llbe poor strategy to bring leo but without the option of wm7. hope htc does hv plans. cause i believe leo's power is for wm7 only.
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Georgeous2008, WM7/CE7 can't just be "ported" to current WM6/CE5 devices, so don't claim that for sure. I heard the whole kernel and driver structures are different. The only chance of backporting WM7 is if a device with (almost) exactly the same hardware gets released with WM7.
Specs say there will be a WM7 upgrade. They meet all the requirements of WM7, including things that don't really make sense in WM6.5, such as the digital compass and the capacitive screen. Neither are extensively supported in WM6.5, but are requirements for WM7.
That does't guarantee that HTC will provide a WM7 upgrade, of course.
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All it really needs is someone from HTC to write a compatible Kernel for the specific device. It really doesn't mean the hardware has to be exactly the same on every device, it just means HTC has to consider it a time-worthy idea. Although at this point, I'm not thinking it's going to happen. We still have a 6.5.1 release on its way, and who knows when Microsoft will release WM7.
To be perfectly honest, I think it was a mistake for Microsoft to invest all of this time and money into the WM6.5 half a*s OS. They should have just went straight to WM7.
Basically, to sum up and put it in perspective, you prolly won't find out too much accurate information about running and OS that hasn't been released to anyone on a device that hasn't been released...
I'm looking to make the switch from WM to Android, but am thoroughly confused when it comes to android phones already on the market PLUS phones for which there have been successful android ports.
Basically, I would like to know your thoughts on which GSM phone is the best when it comes to running android, in terms of hardware (camera, speed, screen , etc) and overall functionality. I can flash custom ROMS and such, no problem.
I'm also confused on the differences between Android 1.5, 1.6, and 2.0. I see new phones (such as the upcoming X10) will have v1.6, so it can't be all that outdated.
Anyway, I can probably research those differences when I have time. Mainly, I would like any opinions on the "best" overall android phone for the money. Again, it will be on a GSM network (AT&T). THANKS!
I fell in love with my Eris on the first day. It has the beautiful Sense UI, a 5mp camera, speaker phone, clear screen, easy navigation button layout, 3.5mm jack, Exchange support, outlook sync, and decent battery life (if you don't have wifi running all the time). As you can see in my signature I have owned a couple of Android phones but am not a total expert. It all depends on the features you need and/or want. Also there is no root for the Eris yet but we will be getting Android 2.x very soon and hopefully root. It sounds like Eris and Droid will get 2.x first at this point in time but things change quickly.
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I fell in love with my Eris on the first day. It has the beautiful Sense UI, a 5mp camera, speaker phone, clear screen, easy navigation button layout, 3.5mm jack, Exchange support, outlook sync, and decent battery life (if you don't have wifi running all the time). As you can see in my signature I have owned a couple of Android phones but am not a total expert. It all depends on the features you need and/or want. Also there is no root for the Eris yet but we will be getting Android 2.x very soon and hopefully root. It sounds like Eris and Droid will get 2.x first at this point in time but things change quickly.
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Thanks. I should also note that I must have a GSM phone, as I'm tied to AT&T in the states. But I guess the ERIS is just the CDMA version of the GSM Hero, right?? Thanks again for your thoughts. Keep 'em coming.
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I'm looking to make the switch from WM to Android, but am thoroughly confused when it comes to android phones already on the market PLUS phones for which there have been successful android ports.
Basically, I would like to know your thoughts on which phone is the best when it comes to running android, in terms of hardware (camera, speed, screen , etc) and overall functionality. I can flash custom ROMS and such, no problem.
I'm also confused on the differences between Android 1.5, 1.6, and 2.0. I see new phones (such as the upcoming X10) will have v1.6, so it can't be all that outdated.
Anyway, I can probably research those differences when I have time. Mainly, I would like any opinions on the "best" overall android phone for the money. THANKS!
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The Vogue... hands down.
In fact, they released a flashable version of Android (not just running from SD), but flashing it to NAND wiping the device and exorcising it from M$ WM...
The ports are nearly perfect as well. Fast and very smooth (and stable).
Then I would go for the Hero unless you do what was suggested above to your Vogue. Also the Hero is rooted and there is a sub-forum you can checkout for more info.
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The Vogue... hands down.
In fact, they released a flashable version of Android (not just running from SD), but flashing it to NAND wiping the device and exorcising it from M$ WM...
The ports are nearly perfect as well. Fast and very smooth (and stable).
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Thanks, but I forgot to mention it must be a GSM device (have now edited my first post). I think the HTC Elf has not seen as much success with an android port, unless I'm mistaken.
i do like the phone and partially like win7 mobile but i was wanting to run android ive tried the info but i cannot get anything to work.
htc 7 pro mobile running wm7
also reading some articles im scared to update what is best and safe for this phone i have stock firmware never updated as of new.
thanks
You cannot run Android on Windows Phone. End of story.
well how are others running android , its not impossible from what ive read. your a bit defeatist lmaO.
if wp7 can run Android, we would have run both on our device.
Actually due to wp7s locked down nature it could not, within reason, dual-boot. You could certainly port android to it given the time but you couldn't jump the android partition from wp7. I suppose it may be possible to flash android onto it (terrible is that it is) and create something to launch the wp7 partition from there but even then it's highly unlikely. There are a few devices supposedly dual-booting over in China but I would be more likely to bet that they're just generic hd7s and needed a free is to use. Regardless, its not happening any time soon and I don't know why you'd want that bug infested laggy garbage on your phone anyway.
they got the HD7 running Android.. and that's it.. pretty much because it is identical to the HD2.. which has been hacked to run android for a long time.
it might be possible for other HTC phones now that they're able to do custom roms.. but there are no guarantees.
If you wanted an android device, why didn't you just buy an android?
they have better hardware available and more flexible software..