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Are you waiting for Android

I was just wondering how happy everyone is with Windows mobile, if you are waiting for android, or waiting on another operating system to swtich phones or what not... Just wondering what everyones up to.

i just recently got my at&t HTC Fuze about a week ago and im in love with it!!! love google maps and youtube!
I love windows mobile! never going to leave it!

I've had My Touch Diamond 2 for just over a week. WM phones are the best phones I've had. I still like Motorola and Nokia but HTC with WM is on the top of my list. Samsung is bleh.
What I'm waiting for is Android on my TD2.

No android for me. I'm digging WM on my PPC's!!

Android is too young and inmature OS, perhaps with a couple of years can become a good option, but by now I´ll stick to WM because you can have a lot of fun with it!

ppl will need quite some time to switch to another new OS

Android and Symbian are too close to Windows Mobile for me. If I switch, it'll be to the iPhone OS.

I love WM! But the Omnia HD has too many good specs, not necessarily a good OS, so I'm switching to it.
I voted WM though.

I voted for Android. I had it working for a brief week on my AT&T Tilt and it was amazing (even though it's kinda buggy and not fully supported). I would love to see Google actually release a ROM (that would be fully supported) by them, but we all the know the chances of that happening.

The reasons I might switch to it are:
if they release a good, stable, and fast clamshell device with a nice screen.
if the softwares I am looking for are all supported and can be found.
otherwise, I am happy with WM, but it takes a lot of time and effort just setting it to run the way you want. I wish it could be as easy as opening a box.

I have had 5 windows mobile phones so far in the last 5 years and presently I have the HD. I can see each generation progressively improve and I think HD is the best phone I ever had.
For me switching over to Android, I can only consider if they have an office program as powerful as Softmaker. I extensively use my phone for managing and editing word and excel documents and I am all out for SoftMaker. So till the other platforms have anything whcih comes close to this switch over is not a possibility for me.

Android's alright, but Windows Mobile has such an extensive library of applications, and such a large support community, that I cannot imagine what it would be like without all that.
Plus, if you have a popular Windows Mobile device, it's likely that within a year, Android will have been ported with almost full hardware/software functionality (exceptions include cameras, proprietary hardware like proximity sensors, etc.), so it's really a win-win situation with most WINdows Mobile devices. Just my opinions anyway.
Dave

I already made the switch to android for the most part and love it, but still have my dash around for gaming. Wm is awesome but so is android, will take time to really take off though.

i love winmo but i am getting sick of all the problems, lack of updates, crappy UI, need to actually cover up the OS, etc.
I have been running Android on my Vogue on and off and like the change so im probably gonna try out a new OS on a new device till WM7 hits cuz 6.5 is just rubbish in updates compared to the competition
iPhone Gen 3.0 or most likely Palm Pre are next on the horizon for me

Android ROM for non HTC devices?

Somewhat recently team XDANDROID released an Android build for WM. However these ROM's only work with the HTC devices they were intended to work on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601751
For those of us without an HTC device, I was wondering if it would be possible to create a universal ROM for designated screen sizes (one for qvga, one for vga, etc) and have them work on devices that are powerful enough, with the appropriate resolution. Or do you just have to create one for each phone?
I personally own a Samsung Epix (i907), and I am extremely disappointed in Samsung's job of porting WM, and releasing the 6.5 update (it was supposed to come out in December, it keeps getting delayed. They did this with the Blackjack II when 6.0 came out) and am not a huge fan of the available ROM.
If not, is there a possible workaround to let me use android on my device? Like an emulator of some sorts? All m searches have turned up nothing useful.

Well.. Making a universal ROM would be extremely difficult, and a HUGE ROM.. Because you'll need drivers for every device then..

Yea TheDeadCpue is right. That would be too much... I know how you feel because I own an i907 as my main phone and im very disappointed in the rom developments. Hopefully we receive our official one this month and we might have a new cook making rooms for us next month!

Just waiting for a Andriod ROM for the HD2!

The best next-gen OS for hacking/technophiles- Goodbye WinMo6.5

Now with the advent of "Windows Phone 7" it seems the hackers/technophile/cooks choice of os, the venerable "Windows Mobile 6.5" is entering the realm of obscolesence as did the classic Palm OS.
It's a shame as support and app development for 6.5 is already getting pretty scarce as everyone jumps to new OSes. Granted that 6.5 is an aging system based on an even older base, but at least it does what I want it to do.
The new version 7 seems like version 1 of iOS and seems like a revolutionary new system but at the same time a big step backwards in functionality, at least what I am used to with 6.5. I got hooked on WinMo with it's seamless Outlook integration and amazing customizability. Android is great but it is plugged into Google and their services but if you don't use them then it is a pain. Blackberry is nice, built on top of WinMo's Activesync idea with Exchange server, but ultimately far too simple for my phone needs.
Anyhow I have relegated myself to accepting the death of my phone OS of choice, but I am unsure which OS should be my next one of choice. Handsets aside because nowadays there are very similar form factors for each OS, save for the ever fixed iPhone.
So what do you guys think, what is the next OS of choice post WinMo 6.5?
edit:I forgot to add webOS to the list, could the mods add it please?

I'd be inclined to say Maemo 5 or WebOS.
I'm pretty sure WebOS even tells you in the instruction manual how to root it! But it could be on par with Android.
As for Maemo, there is a large, clever developer scene there.

khsbenny said:
I'd be inclined to say Maemo 5 or WebOS.
I'm pretty sure WebOS even tells you in the instruction manual how to root it! But it could be on par with Android.
As for Maemo, there is a large, clever developer scene there.
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Maemo looks very interesting, but is it really suited to put onto my phone? Seems more geared towards internet or multimedia devices rather than actually on a phone.
Is there a place where you can find builds for HTC Phones?

maemo is good for technies.
the ultimate solution for geeks(but only for them) is neo freeruner though

WM in any version
possibilities are infinite

orb3000 said:
WM in any version
possibilities are infinite
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So you are not counting "Windows Phone" OS as Windows Mobile right?

Yes I am, in other words WM or WP but will stick to Windows (at least for a year or so, later will see...)

In a year or so I plan on switching to either Android or WebOS, depending on the handsets out at the time. Maemo also looks pretty good. I'm over windows mobile now, mostly I want a phone thats perfectly reliable in every curcumstance and has better battery life. I like customisation but I would go without it if it was necessary. What I will miss is the stylus, I like to scribble out notes on the run.

phony said:
So what do you guys think, what is the next OS of choice post WinMo 6.5?
edit:I forgot to add webOS to the list, could the mods add it please?
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For customization and functionality? I would say Maemo probably tops the list in sheer potential, but frankly, I would advocate Android for pragmatism. Android has a much larger developer base (which includes the XDA forums here), it is much more established and has a larger app library, and, more importantly, it has the strong support of Google.

Is a Windows Mobile 7 ROM possible?

I am loving the CM7 ROM for the Glacier and wouldn't mind keeping it for as long as I own this handset. As someone curious about the new Windows OS however, I was wondering if it's possible to create a version of the ROM for this phone. I noticed the HTC HD2 seems to be able to run Windows Mobile and Android just fine. Is it just a lucky fluke that it's hardware is compatible with both OS builds?

It is definitely possible for an WP7 ROM, but highly unlikely. The reason the HD2 got so much love is Because WinMo sucks arse cheeks. As a stock phone the MT4G is a great phone, but most of the people who frequent this site want the latest and greatest so that is why you see a lot of ROMs for android.
I can't speak for everyone on this site, IMO it won't happen.

The HD2 was also shipped with windows mobile to begin with, while maybe not the same versionI think it is frowned on a bit less than if you were to take a open device and put a closed os on it. That would be pretty much like buying computer parts real cheap putting the computer together and then stealing (pirating) a copy of windows 7 to put on the hdd, rather than buying the license properly.
So what I am saying I guess is it is not wither the hardware can handle it,which I see no reason it couldn't with driver tweaking. It is more the legality of it and that pirating is not allowed here!

I appreciate the reply. This is actually the first generation of Windows Mobile that even has me interested in taking it for a test drive. All of the previous versions reminded me of a poor version of the desktop OS.

My only interest in it s the gaming aspect, Android continuously disappointments me with the gaming options.

the only reason why HD2 is able to do WM7 and android is because, WM7 has the same type of architecture setup and the android is running off the SD card via Linux overlay. and honestly i used the HD2 for a bit for android and its a bit of a mess. they might come out with WM7 on MT4G but i dont think gaming will be any better on WM7.

whoamanwtf said:
My only interest in it s the gaming aspect, Android continuously disappointments me with the gaming options.
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Just wait until the PSP Androids take off...

No way MT4G will get windows rom.
The reason HD2 got Android and WP7 running because it is exactly the same phone as Evo and HD7 so porting was relatively easy. MT4G has different processor then any current WP7 phones and this processor is not supported by WP7.

I myself would be very interested in a windows phone port. just so I can change to WP7, watch some netflix, then switch back to android when I'm done.

I doubt it. U might have to pick up an HD2 if u want to dual boot Windows 7 and Android. U can find them for cheap on craigslist these days because most users who don't hack their phones, seemingly can't see the potential in HD2s. They are very good phones once u stray away from windows 6.5 IMO

I think the reason why the developers spend about 5 months trying to make the port to the HD2 was because one windows mobile is obsolete, second the fact that Microsoft and HTC were not going to update HD2 to WP7 because of Microsoft's lame excuse of the fact that the device had to many buttons BS! and lastly when the HD7 came out everyone was pissed to the fact that the HD7 was an exact replica (hardware) of the HD2's. I have WP7 on my HD2 it runs perfect with no bugs at all, but coming from android IMO is a bit boring OS as its not open source as android.
Now WP7 on the MT4G will never happen. I don't think developers such as Cotulla will try to spend months once again on trying to port WP7 to another device I think they were just trying to prove a point and they did

DaArtist401 said:
I doubt it. U might have to pick up an HD2 if u want to dual boot Windows 7 and Android. U can find them for cheap on craigslist these days because most users who don't hack their phones, seemingly can't see the potential in HD2s. They are very good phones once u stray away from windows 6.5 IMO
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This is super true
I honestly had no idea of how much support exists for this device until my Uncle asked me to put Android on his...
I was like ... I don't think I could do that, unk..
But it was actually pretty easy, almost too easy. Makes me want to grab one for a cheap tinker toy to fit right nicely into the tiny gap between my MT4G and my NookColor.

syaoran68 said:
the only reason why HD2 is able to do WM7 and android is because, WM7 has the same type of architecture setup and the android is running off the SD card via Linux overlay. and honestly i used the HD2 for a bit for android and its a bit of a mess. they might come out with WM7 on MT4G but i dont think gaming will be any better on WM7.
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I would agree partially. I have an HD2 as well as the MT4G. MDJs CM7 runs flawfless on the HD2! I will never flash any other rom for it unless he has updates. Its so smooth and snappy you would never believe the HD2 wasn't an Android device. The beauty of it is that, with MDJs CM7 rom, the HD2 battery life puts the MT4G to shame. 1-2ma battery drain on standby! Best backup phone ever!

You can get a home screen app on the market that "trys" to simulate a windows 7 fone but is lacking in features =\ BoL

[Q] WP7 downgrade to WM 6.x

I've been asking for this question for sometime, but maybe here I can get an answer.
The thing is that I do like this piece of hardware, but WP7 is just not working for me. It feels to me like I have a phone that is limited only to functions that I could have with 10 year old phone, or like having NOKIA 1400.
It's locked phone, limited to basic phone-mail-facebook functions. Apps are rubbish.
Instead of WP7, having WM 6.x on this phone would be great. So, is there a way to downgrade to WM 6.x?

if you own a HD2 it is possible to rollback to win 6.5, but on a native win phone 7 device it's not possible

But, if HD2 can switch to WM, why is impossible for other native WP7 devices to downgrade? Can it be possible to make dualboot?

mendoza1 said:
But, if HD2 can switch to WM, why is impossible for other native WP7 devices to downgrade? Can it be possible to make dualboot?
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Use Omia 7 love dowgrade to wm 6.xx love ... love... pls!

mendoza1 said:
But, if HD2 can switch to WM, why is impossible for other native WP7 devices to downgrade? Can it be possible to make dualboot?
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Because HD2 isn't a native WP7 device.
XDA Windows Phone 7 App

airwa1kin7 said:
Because HD2 isn't a native WP7 device.
XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Well DA! I do know that HD2 is native WM6, but if it is manageable for HD2 to switch from one to another, than similarity in some aspects do exist. I do refer to that similarity as a starting point for downgrading form WP7 to WM6.x.
Can a fact that it is possible to upgrade from WM to WP help in developing it's downgrade?

mendoza1 said:
Well DA! I do know that HD2 is native WM6, but if it is manageable for HD2 to switch from one to another, than similarity in some aspects do exist. I do refer to that similarity as a starting point for downgrading form WP7 to WM6.x.
Can a fact that it is possible to upgrade from WM to WP help in developing it's downgrade?
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the only way to do that is if the bootloders on wp7 devices are hacked and modefide to acsept difrent os's
but i think you need to stay with this device a litle longer
imho it has the best UI for a mobile device out there
as for the apps that will come in time...
for exsample all i ever wanted from wp7 was a proper multy protocol messenger and now we have it IM+ rocks
also as soon as mango hits you wont be complaining as much cos most of the apps will be getting more functionality then the other oses put together... and i dont even want to know what MS has in store for the next upgrade
so my edvice is sit tight cos its gona be a wild ride from here on out... i just hope you have a non carier branded phone

Like lathera said, it's a bootloader thing. HD2 has HardSPL, which is a hacked bootloader that allows flashing of unsigned ROM's. Plus it has a user made bootloader over that to allow flashing of ROM for other OS's. The bootloader is highly tied into the OS. It's not to say it can't happen, it'd just take a developer(s) to complete these tasks to make it possible.

Windows Phone 7 is not for people who like to keep on playing, flashing with their devices. I have Android now and thats all you do. You waste your time with playing around (launchers, custom roms etc) and one day you get tired of it. I just want an OS that works and not an OS that i have to tweak to make it work.
If you want Windows Mobile 6.5 you have to get an HD2. Good luck with that and soon you will realize how crappy it is.

i just cant understand how can u preffer windows mobile 6.5 over windows phone 7.. hell.. the support on windows mobile 6.5 is till tomorrow.. and besides i doubt that anyone would want to develop a bootloader to run 6.5. that OS is so "past tuesday" it's and old thing that will remain only on pocket pc (like my Motorola Symbol).. which has 6.1 by the way, and it lack simple fuctionality like kinetic scrolling.. not the mention the SUPER UGLY interface.. but afterall it's your choice..

Yes, I do realize that WM is so last Friday. But feeling is claustrophobic when running WP7, it is all locked up.
I do consider to switch to HD2, but in the mean time there is no harm in asking around about future prospects for WP7.
There are a number of things that I miss in WP7, and it made me to consider switching back to the WM6. The moust obvious reasons are numerous apps that became essential over the time for me, settings that could be changed, smartphone dial, file explorer, support for various file types (not just basic multimedia extensions)... Don't see what is last Tuesday in that, mate.

lathera said:
the only way to do that is if the bootloders on wp7 devices are hacked and modefide to acsept difrent os's
but i think you need to stay with this device a litle longer
imho it has the best UI for a mobile device out there
as for the apps that will come in time...
for exsample all i ever wanted from wp7 was a proper multy protocol messenger and now we have it IM+ rocks
also as soon as mango hits you wont be complaining as much cos most of the apps will be getting more functionality then the other oses put together... and i dont even want to know what MS has in store for the next upgrade
so my edvice is sit tight cos its gona be a wild ride from here on out... i just hope you have a non carier branded phone
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I'm running the latest Mango beta and it is much more functional; but it still seems to me that this platform is more about social networking than enterprise tasks.
That aside, how do I get IM+? I don't see it on the marketplace.
Finally, especially with good IM we need third party SIP support. I miss Swype terribly; these hundred words alone would have taken a fifth of the time on Swype.

Here is a link to IM+ http://www.freewarewp7.mobi/download-im-all-in-one-messenger.html

That's the bizarrest thing ever. I realize that WP7 is still missing a few features (nearly all of which are returning in Mango very shortly), but there is no way I'd ever go back to such an archaic OS as WM6 or even iOS

Good News
Dark Forces Team released HSPL for our WP7 devices
[DFT] HSPL / RSPL for HTC WP7 First Generation
so is it possible to flash WP6.5 to our WP7 devices?

mendoza1 said:
Yes, I do realize that WM is so last Friday. But feeling is claustrophobic when running WP7, it is all locked up.
I do consider to switch to HD2, but in the mean time there is no harm in asking around about future prospects for WP7.
There are a number of things that I miss in WP7, and it made me to consider switching back to the WM6. The moust obvious reasons are numerous apps that became essential over the time for me, settings that could be changed, smartphone dial, file explorer, support for various file types (not just basic multimedia extensions)... Don't see what is last Tuesday in that, mate.
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i agree.. not having smart dialing and the unability to download a simple mp3 file over the internet is really frustrating.. but hey i just saw that cotulla released HSPL for windows phone device.. no there's some light in the tunnel.. and it's not from the incoming train there just might be some possibility to put WM or any other OS to our Windows phones.. so i guess our phones (HTC) are about to pick up the torch from the HD2

lukmanhakim08 said:
Dark Forces Team released HSPL for our WP7 devices
[DFT] HSPL / RSPL for HTC WP7 First Generation
so is it possible to flash WP6.5 to our WP7 devices?
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No, that is for only flashing WP7 roms.
To get WM6.5 you would need the equivalent of MAGLDR on the HD2. Just get yourself an HD2 and then play with WM6.5, Android and WP7. Hardware is just as good as any wp7 handset.

It's not possible

goldbyte said:
It's not possible
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Everything is possible. Wait any months.

It's nice to see this topic alive, again.
Thanks everyone for the answers. It has been a while since this topic gave me hope for a better future if WP7 devices, but as time went by I have switched back to Windos Mobile 6.x device. It is a shame that this OS was, and is, a dissapointment, for me. Hardware that WP7 devices have, although exellent by all means, was shadowed by ill-made OS on the epic scale. I have enjoyed surfing the inernet on 7 PRO, but it was only that that was made for a highest grade, everything else (about software) was, and is, pure rubish.
Now, I have HD2, and although I miss real keyboard, I can manage to do my daily tasks as usual. Internet surfing experience is about 1/4 better on 7 PRO, but: Images on HD2 are better resolution (yes 7 PRO has 5MP camera, but it is far behind HD2s), much more programs and tools on standard ROM (which I use the most, and there for need), better file management, etc.
I do hope that it would be possible to install programs on to WP7 device, or, better yet, to have WM6 on WP7 device for it's own benefit. As the euphoria started with relasing WP7, on the start, and WP7 devices could be purhased anywhere, now the picture is all different, it is very hard to find a store with WP7 device.
And, for the conclusion, knowing WP7 and WM6, I wouldn't migrate to WP7 at all.
Best of all to ya!
Marry Christmas, and Happy New Year!