Advice sought for push mail hosting with spam filtering - General Topics

OK, it's about time that I reviewed my email hosting options, I am currently paying $10 a month to exchangemymail.com for exchange 2k3 hosting (200MB mailbox). The main reason I went with that company was at the time they were the only ones I could find that offered postini filtered email accounts for one user only (I use it for my personal phone not just buisiness).
Top notch spam filtering is my #1 priority as I have had evilc.com and the [email protected] email address for nigh on 20 years now so I get a *lot* of spam.
However, since I originally took out the account, google bought postini, and now it seems that you can pay google $6 a year for postini filtering and bolt it onto any email account (You need a domain, which I have).
I am not unhappy with exchangemymail.com's service at all, but I think I can maybe get a better deal now.
So... looking for input on the subject.
Here are some points worth noting:
I currently use windows mobile, but I am maybe getting an android phone too soon, so a system that works well on both would be nice.
I use the same account on my desktop as my phone and I will not change this - it has to be as good a desktop solution as it is a phone solution.
Unification of email / contacts / tasks etc and OTA synching of these is vital. With my current system, I can enter a contact into outlook, pick up my (untethered) phone and the contact will be in there within seconds. I want to keep this.
I want the push email to be as real-time as possible. None of this every 5 or 10 minutes rubbish. I hold conversations via email, so it needs to be fast.
I am not hugely happy with the desktop exchange solution, it takes ~2-3 mins to load up outlook, and I have to enter my password too. However, I am not a huge fan of web interfaces for email / contacts etc.
I suppose it doesnt have to be postini spam filtering, but it needs to be really, really good.
Not looking for super cheap / free solutions from tiny outfits. I want to sleep sound at night knowing that my data is safe. (Yes I know about the google / sidekick fiasco but that isn't the norm for google)
I am in the UK, so hosting in places where the exchange rate is favourable makes sense

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Push email for a reasonable price

Hey guys, just got my Kaiser and flat rate data and was wanting to get full push email sorted out, but I am a consumer not a business so found it hard to get one, especially with decent spam filtering.
I eventually found http://www.exchangemymail.com/ - they do single user 200MB exchange mailboxes for $9.99 a month (£5 for me - yay!) and chuck in Postini spam filtering and wireless activesync and a copy of outlook 2007 for your desktop for free!
Very easy setup, I now have blackberry-style wireless syncing of mail / contacts / calendar on my HTC phone which absolutely rocks! The web interface is great too, very web 2.0, almost like using a local outlook client, and that's coming from someone who isn't exaclty M$'s biggest fan...
I have my own domain and just redirected my email address to one they gave me, but they will allow you to point your MX at them.
The only downside really for me is that live support is US hours only, so no support till like 2PM (I dunno, maybe they have out of hours via email, but if email is the problem...), but if it were hosted in the UK you bet I would be paying £10 a month not $10 a month...
No minimum contract too. Someone yell if they know of a better deal
Try mail2web.com its totaly free
sebi112 said:
Try mail2web.com its totaly free
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Thanks for that one.
try www.port88.org
you can have it free or pay a little amount and you will plus, plus...
i am enjoying it's free service.
if u going to pay, get the real thing, crackberry service! haha
no, i dont use it, i'm way too poor currently! haha
try emoze.com, u get your gmail within 2minutes!
lukeap69 said:
try www.port88.org
you can have it free or pay a little amount and you will plus, plus...
i am enjoying it's free service.
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Great find! 350MB too! Looks like I may be moving to port88.org then
I think the free email hosting will do me for now, but if I like it, I may move my domain hosting in and donate the $50.
Though I will have to see how effective Postini is with exchangemymail. I would happily pay £5 a month for top notch spam filtering to my mobile account alone - I have had this email address for pretty much 20 yrs now and it is on a lot of spam lists...
Sure I could set up my own mail server with spamassassin or whatever, but to be frank, not sure I can be arsed.
Emoze push mail cross platform solution
just try free emoze solution discovered on LDCWeb2.0 must have WM5 applications list

Notifications for emails in folders other than the inbox.

I've been looking around for some type of software (since WM5 and WM6 don't seem to have the ability built in) that will let me know when I've gotten an email in a folder other than my inbox.
All of the people in my office have separate folders, and all of their email is sorted into their respective boxes automatically in a server-side rule. I'd always have to manually check those folders in windows mobile (I've got an 8125 running XDA Mobile 6 r4) every time I looked at my phone.
While searching around I found a software package called watchflag (www.watchflag.com or m.watchflag.com for the direct download). It didn't have this option at first, but I asked their support about it and they actually wrote it into the code! It'll play different notifications depending on who it's from or what the subject line is, and it checks all folders, including subfolders (just be sure to follow all of their directions!). So if you've been looking for something to alert you on new email in subfolders (the boss [or the wife] emailing you and you have a separate folder for them), this software will work great.
Just wanted to spread the word as I looked high and low and haven't found anything else that does this out there!
thanks for the post, nice ap. probably shouldnt put your email in plain site like that[username]
I've been waiting a long time for this! Thanks!
Looks interesting. I'm looking for something subtley different - I use FlexMail to access a private IMAP account and I'd love to find something which hooks the standard notification process, so, for instance, my HTC Home new mail count will increment for mail received in Flexmail/IMAP. (At the moment I have Outlook mirroring the IMAP account and checking for mail every 5 minutes to flag new arrivals, but that's wasteful of resources...)
Does anyone know of something that allows you to hook the standard notification procedures for custom events?

Push email service from $3 a month

Hey guys im using an exchange push mail service from www.drmorley.com
They charge $3 a month for a 200meg mailbox with push email support. Whats even nicer is that when you send mail form for instance mine is [email protected] you attach an alias for instance [email protected] so mail sent from the drmorley account looks like its sent directly form your gmail account. I applied for it and i was all setup and go in less than 2 hours. It support push mail for pocket pc and blackberry support. Please have a look. He is looking at setting up cluster/load balancing support so even if one mail server goes down there will be a backup in place without any downtime.
Try them and leave some feedback. He even supplies a certificate for WM5 devices foc.
Hi, I thought I'd share a bit about my setup.
About my Hardware/Setup:
My servers are a pair of Dell 2950 PowerEdge server with 2Ghz Xeon Dual Core processors and 8GB of RAM. They've got about 500GB of storage in a RAID5 array with a spare hot swap drive just in case a drive starts acting up. I can pull it out and enable the spare within a hour ensure the data survives. A full backup is done daily and once a week the backup file gets offloaded to a remote datacenter just as a precaution. I also have backup MX servers that will archive 1GB of mail for up to 14 days in the event of a major outage. The servers themselves are colocated in a datacenter in Chicago where I live. I purchase colo space from SteadFast Networks which is located in an Equinix datacenter. The servers are hooked into a 100MB connection so bandwidth is not an issue.
I'm sorry, but I do not offer any SharePoint services or public folders. I didn't think I had the time or resources to adequately offer it so I chose not to offer it.
I have an economy plan for $3/month (paid yearly) that includes:
• 200MB Storage
• 10 aliases (ability to use your own domain)
• Outlook Anywhere, Activesync (Direct Push for Windows Mobile Devices), OWA
• POP3 & IMAP Access
• Antivirus Scanning (inbound & outbound) - Provided by Forefront Security for Exchange
• Entourage support for Macs
• iPhone Support (via IMAP)
The $5/month plan comes with a mediocre spam filter that I offer for free. It does an okay job, but if you really get a lot of spam (100+/day) then you'll want something better. I do pride myself on offering one of the best anti-spam solutions out there. After a lot of testing and research I found that no single spam filter could really do a fantastic job of filtering spam. So I went with a two tier approach. On the edge of my network I use Postini to filter the bulk spam that most filters catch easily. My users can administrate it themselves and whitelist/blacklist as they see fit. The second layer of protection is Cloudmark SPAM filter for Exchange. It's a server side solution and when used in conjunction with the Postini eliminates 99.9% of spam. The best part is that the false positive ratio with Cloudmark is nearly flawless. Ham will never be filtered as Spam--as a business class user you can't afford to miss an important client email. With Cloudmark spam filtering you don't have to worry about false positives.
As it relates to mobile phones (blackberries and windows mobile devices) the spam filtering is done BEFORE the mail hits your inbox to spam won't continually be sent to your mobile phone.
Here's how my pricing works. I had to change it recently to due changes in some of the licensing fees I have to pay to MSFT and Cloudmark.
• $5/Mailbox Includes:
• 1GB Storage
• unlimited aliases (for up to three domains)
• Antivirus Scanning (inbound & outbound) - Provided by Forefront Security for Exchange
• Postini SPAM Filter
• Outlook Anywhere, Activesync (Direct Push for Windows Mobile Devices), OWA
• POP3 & IMAP Access
• Entourage support for Macs
• iPhone Support (via IMAP)
Additional Services:
• Cloudmark Anti Spam Technology - $3/month to cover licensing fees
• Blackberry Support - $10month
• Additional Storage $1/month per extra GB of storage
I hope this answers some of your initial questions. Please let me know if you have any additional questions. I can be reached at frank at frankmorley dot com
I don't have a formal terms of service, but I reserve the right to disable your account if I feel you've been using my service to spam. I went through great pains to make sure email from my domain is accepted by other mail servers and if I feel you are jeopardizing things for others you will be banned immediately no questions asked. I will refund your money, but your account will be locked up and you will be permanently banned.
why not use mail2web.com ? it's FREE
i use mail2web too, is a good free service
push mail powa
how 'bout emoze? it's free and works with OWA prettttyyy good.
I really like the idea of your spam filtering thats probably my biggest complaint with my current setup but looking at your plans the only way to get both spam filtering is pretty much $8 a month correct?
Can you tell me what the OWA addy is just so I can see if my works websense blocks it or not?
I have a question about the push email. With this type of solution how does the push email work? Does it send a SMS msg to force checking of the account or is it connected all the time?
Just curious as my current solution stays connected all the time and is a drain on battery life.
mail2web ISN'T free if you want to use your own reply-to address.
Does Outlook everywhere support HTML email?
Mail2web is a nice service but does not provide HTML support cause they are still using Exchange 2003 SP2. I talked to a technical guy and there's no plan to upgrade to 2007 which support HTML. Only Executive plan is using Exchange 2007a nd in this case you have to pay!
Otherwise, the live2web (Free service) is working fine but without HTML read format.
Cheers!
papafred said:
i use mail2web too, is a good free service
push mail powa
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epimazzo said:
Mail2web is a nice service but does not provide HTML support cause they are still using Exchange 2003 SP2. I talked to a technical guy and there's no plan to upgrade to 2007 which support HTML. Only Executive plan is using Exchange 2007a nd in this case you have to pay!
Otherwise, the live2web (Free service) is working fine but without HTML read format.
Cheers!
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Look here : http://www.exchangemailhosting.com
Unlimited domain alias, unlimited e-mail alias , unlimited storage and fully Exchange 2007:
This mean OWA,ActiveSyncPush,OutlookAnywhere, HTML support etc etc
Cost around 9$ per month
MrDSL said:
I really like the idea of your spam filtering thats probably my biggest complaint with my current setup but looking at your plans the only way to get both spam filtering is pretty much $8 a month correct?
Can you tell me what the OWA addy is just so I can see if my works websense blocks it or not?
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mail2web has a spam filter.
Everyone has a spam filter..
Anyways, yes mail2web is free but you get mail2web at the end of your address, this is no go for some people.
His $3 a month plan is right up my alley, that is a perfect plan for a user such as myself.
nahguam said:
mail2web has a spam filter.
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They all have spam filters but I need a real one and his sounds pretty good..
MrDSL said:
They all have spam filters but I need a real one and his sounds pretty good..
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horses for courses... I actually asked mail2web to disable it because it kept blocking legitimate emails. I don't get very much spam at all though (maybe 2-3 per month) so it's fine.
nahguam said:
horses for courses... I actually asked mail2web to disable it because it kept blocking legitimate emails. I don't get very much spam at all though (maybe 2-3 per month) so it's fine.
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Lucky you I get that per hour easy..
Sounds like a nice deal @ $3 bucks a month..... I have mail2web, but it doesn't support HTML. So I quit using it. I just forward my everything to my gmail and have my phone check every 10min. But for $3 I think it's a steal.
Thanks for the great offer!
P.S. Your server does support HTML? How about outlook calendar? Please let me know.
Chris
Is there a link for the $3/month plan? All I see is the $5 and the $13. I'm currently using mail2web and the aliases and outlook 2007 is making me think about switching
How does the Exchange Activesync affect battery life? Do you notice a big change?
MrDSL said:
Lucky you I get that per hour easy..
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Try 3-4k a day....
I spent two years researching and testing different spam filters. For those of you than manage your own mail servers Cloudmark offers some of the best protection out there and their false positive ratio is nearly flawless. Worth every penny if you ask me.

best secure chat/messaging app

I've been looking at various messaging apps that are encrypted.
Things like
delta chat
Pretty easy privacy
Conversations.
K9 mail with pgp encryption
And others.
They all have various issues
Conversations uses xxmp servers which don't work well if there are extended times offline.
Delta chat uses smtp which is great for offline but it has very little key management features for advanced users
Pretty easy privacy is still beta but promises a lot of good features in the future, but they might go with a subscription service for advanced features(that they call enterprise edition otherwise it might be the best when they get it done)
K9 mail with open pgp key management just is too complicated for everyday people.(sadly it's the best security)
What are you using and why?
nutpants said:
I've been looking at various messaging apps that are encrypted.
Things like
delta chat
Pretty easy privacy
Conversations.
K9 mail with pgp encryption
And others.
They all have various issues
Conversations uses xxmp servers which don't work well if there are extended times offline.
Delta chat uses smtp which is great for offline but it has very little key management features for advanced users
Pretty easy privacy is still beta but promises a lot of good features in the future, but they might go with a subscription service for advanced features(that they call enterprise edition otherwise it might be the best when they get it done)
K9 mail with open pgp key management just is too complicated for everyday people.(sadly it's the best security)
What are you using and why?
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I'm kinda a rookie and only play a knowledgeable geek on tv, but security is pretty important to me. So I've tried a few different apps. Currently I'm using a combo of Threema and Signal on my Mi Max 3. I really like Threema. I wish signal had a few more bells and whistles, so I'm casting about for another SMS messaging app. It's not very scientific but one of my main criteria is just how many permissions the app asks for.
Telegram app or website
Signal app
There is no security on smartphones.
Depends on a few things.
1. Keys stay encrypted and on phone not online or "in the cloud"
2. Even if encrypted end to end like Whatsapp, the company was sold to Facebook so.....
3. Has to connect send and receive peer to peer or adversaries attack any centralization because that makes it too easy for them, so no telegram
I think Signal by Whisper Systems is "best", but the phone has android which Google and nsa have backdoored and suppress zero day exploit knowledge and keep discovery secret, so they read and keylog it all.
Ive been using Wickr they seem to be more secure than a regular text messages at least, I hope maybe. They say in their disclosure they dont keep any messages on the servers they use but its stiil the end users device thats the weak point. Lately wickr has been updating alot, which seems to be another term for uploading. idk i may be way off.
I found my rooted Nexus 6 had directories that were hard to get to containing screenshots of my phone taken randomly during a 24 hour time frame and zipped. Also simply watching the logcat it was uploading files regularly, dropbox and I cant find much about it but the Sahara protocol was what seemed to be querying uploads.
I use telegram
The best is to use secret chat in Telegram
It's available when use mobile telegram

Cheapest solution just for SMS verification?

Right now I exclusively use Telegram for participating in online communities that interest me, where I do not know any of the other users in real life. When I get notifications that someone I know in real life, whose phone number is in my contacts, has joined Telegram it has bothered me that this blurs the line between my real life identity and the online pseudonym I use - as I expect that they see my username and it may be quite confusing to them who I am.
I have also been reading how Telegram is increasing in popularity which is great but if there is widespread general adoption separating my real life contacts from my online communities at a late point will be even more difficult.
It seems the best option would be a second account but that every Telegram account requires a unique phone number - is there some way around this, or is there some way I can set up a second account without having to set reactivate an old SIM by topping it up, and continuing to top it up every few months to keep the provider from - required at least by Vodafone Ireland? Perhaps there is some kind of online SMS phone number I could use free or for a once off fee that would allow me to see receive email or web based SMS?

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