best secure chat/messaging app - Security Discussion

I've been looking at various messaging apps that are encrypted.
Things like
delta chat
Pretty easy privacy
Conversations.
K9 mail with pgp encryption
And others.
They all have various issues
Conversations uses xxmp servers which don't work well if there are extended times offline.
Delta chat uses smtp which is great for offline but it has very little key management features for advanced users
Pretty easy privacy is still beta but promises a lot of good features in the future, but they might go with a subscription service for advanced features(that they call enterprise edition otherwise it might be the best when they get it done)
K9 mail with open pgp key management just is too complicated for everyday people.(sadly it's the best security)
What are you using and why?

nutpants said:
I've been looking at various messaging apps that are encrypted.
Things like
delta chat
Pretty easy privacy
Conversations.
K9 mail with pgp encryption
And others.
They all have various issues
Conversations uses xxmp servers which don't work well if there are extended times offline.
Delta chat uses smtp which is great for offline but it has very little key management features for advanced users
Pretty easy privacy is still beta but promises a lot of good features in the future, but they might go with a subscription service for advanced features(that they call enterprise edition otherwise it might be the best when they get it done)
K9 mail with open pgp key management just is too complicated for everyday people.(sadly it's the best security)
What are you using and why?
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I'm kinda a rookie and only play a knowledgeable geek on tv, but security is pretty important to me. So I've tried a few different apps. Currently I'm using a combo of Threema and Signal on my Mi Max 3. I really like Threema. I wish signal had a few more bells and whistles, so I'm casting about for another SMS messaging app. It's not very scientific but one of my main criteria is just how many permissions the app asks for.

Telegram app or website
Signal app

There is no security on smartphones.
Depends on a few things.
1. Keys stay encrypted and on phone not online or "in the cloud"
2. Even if encrypted end to end like Whatsapp, the company was sold to Facebook so.....
3. Has to connect send and receive peer to peer or adversaries attack any centralization because that makes it too easy for them, so no telegram
I think Signal by Whisper Systems is "best", but the phone has android which Google and nsa have backdoored and suppress zero day exploit knowledge and keep discovery secret, so they read and keylog it all.

Ive been using Wickr they seem to be more secure than a regular text messages at least, I hope maybe. They say in their disclosure they dont keep any messages on the servers they use but its stiil the end users device thats the weak point. Lately wickr has been updating alot, which seems to be another term for uploading. idk i may be way off.
I found my rooted Nexus 6 had directories that were hard to get to containing screenshots of my phone taken randomly during a 24 hour time frame and zipped. Also simply watching the logcat it was uploading files regularly, dropbox and I cant find much about it but the Sahara protocol was what seemed to be querying uploads.

I use telegram

The best is to use secret chat in Telegram
It's available when use mobile telegram

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[Q] push instant messaging

Are instant messengers available that work like push email.
For example rather then have a constant internet connection that eats battery life an app that only makes a connection to check if there's new messages just like push messaging
Do any app's like this exist and if they don't is it even possible to create something like this
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I could be wrong, but it think this is something the IM service would have to incorporate into their service, & AFAIK, none of them do. Depending on your service, i would suggest setting up IM Forwarding. I know AIM allows messages to be forwarded to a cell phone once you sign off, not sure about others though.
I see so it would be similar to how the POP3 and IMAP features work with email
I wonder how much it will take to convince any IM company to incorporate these features
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There is Whatsapp (Beta) available perhaps in a month for my opinion the best push messaging client. And pingchat this app is available just search with google.

What is the safest messaging app? (Encrypted Messages)

I've been an avid WhatsApp user. But lately been reading a lot of articles stating all the insecurities and flaws.
I share a lot of private and sensitive data with colleagues. Which app would you guys suggest? Hopefully its cross platform (specifically: iOS & Android)
Thanks.
Skype was told to be using quite advanced encrypting algorithm and probably they are still doing so.

GTalk + PGP. Encryption for everyone

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kstych.SecureIM
Do you care if your messages are scanned/read/provided to the highest bidder or the authorities without ever asking or even notifying?
SecureIM is the first Secure-Chat application which is built to protect you from any possible or potential leak of privacy. These days organizations spy on our chats to target ads and Governments in the name of security, however there is no excuse of not demanding and having access to privacy when we want.
SecureIM secures your communication in 2 ways
1. Secure Transmission :- A chat message will be encrypted and only readable on the device it is sent to/from.
2. Single Use Keys :- The Keys generated while messaging are discarded when the application is closed, which means it is impossible to decode a message once the app is reloaded.
The application is extremely simple to use, no need to bother about the complexities of encryption and underlying privacy details, rest assured your messages will always be out of reach from snoopers.
This app uses Public Key Cryptography, each session generates its own private/public keys.
Keys are never stored but kept in memory until the app is running.
So it'll support XMPP?
Or just gtalk?
supports xmpp
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So it'll support XMPP?
Or just gtalk?
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yes, the app uses XMPP below the encryption layer, and so any XMPP server is supported, however this version is binded to login to Google talk server
Thanks

Google+/Hangouts update...

So, with the announcements yesterday of SMS client support in Hangouts (as well as animated GIFS and Location sharing) and the other new features announce for Google+ with the Video and Photo editing, I wonder how much it will help growth on the platform. Of course the iOS update had Google Voice support and maybe that will be baked in too. I use Hangouts a lot now to talk to family and groups that I'm part of and to automatically back up my photos and videos from my phone. It's really nice to be able to instantly go to my images from any computer and access the full size images without having to manually retrieve them. I will be interested to see how the SMS implementation is handled, but it could prove to be the "killer" feature to push Hangouts to more people. I like the fact that it works completely across all platforms. Whether I'm at my computer or my phone, or my niece's iPad or my brother's iPhone or even folks on crackberries or Windows, everyone can "Hangout" without the exclusivity of platform like iMessage or the limitations of BBM. I think the real key will be how fluid and responsive it is at full blown implementation.
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An encryption-based decentralized End to End communication APP

The Internet was designed to be a free network. “Don’t be evil” is the formal corporate motto of Google.However a subjective good from Internet institutions can't guarantee Internet freedom.What the true freedom? The true freedom is assuming all the participators are evil, get rid of all the participators capacity for evil through architectural design.
Apps often used to deliver sensitive data or used for personal and corporate communications, so the data stored by the service provider should be encrypted end-to-end, There are many App messaging applications like Line, WeChat, KakaoTalk, and many more, but they are not end-to-end encrypted messengers. Time is loudly announcing the need to shift to some alternates who provide end-to-end encryption for communication between two devices and respect your Privacy. There are a number of solutions available includes for privacy like, Telegram offers end-to-end encryption and have a 'Secret Chat' feature, that self-destruct messages after the conversation, Sure spot allows you to send and receive text messages, pictures and audio clip with end-to-end encryption, Threema use end-to-end encryption and gives you all features like text messaging, image sharing, and voice chat as well, Text Secure and Red Phone also provides end-to-end encryption for messaging and voice calls respectively. Red Phone allows you to upgrade a normal call to secure call whenever it senses the possibility to fulfill the requirements.
Therefore we have developed a complete decentralized, third-party End to End encrypted communication APP.
What is “a complete decentralized” concept?
IMAP/SMTP are standard communication protocol for retrieving and sending emails from mail server, our APP users communicate via the protocols, as if they are sending emails.
What is “third-party End to End encrypted communication”?
Since we are using zero-server solution, the developer themselves can't read the communication information from users at all. We encrypt the E-mail communication. The advantage of third-party encryption is no one can read APP user's communication information without permission, include APP official, operator, E-mail service provider and so on.
Why “APP”?
We used smart phone longer than sitting in front of a PC. We hope to develop a 100% free of charge future-proof secure communication app that is convenient and suit for long-hour usage.
After completing the APP, as long as there is user, nobody include us can prohibit this product from being used. As in nobody can prohibit the use of email protocol. Furthermore there will be no server deployed to manage this APP. It enables free flow of APP in conformity with the spirit of free Internet environment.
freedom is only an illusion. Your never free, I'll never be free, no living thing can ever be truly free, as every action is determined (or can be seen as determined a posteriori) by various factots. So, as the Internet is constructed by humans, logically it won't be free as well.
Stop talking about freedom and give us a secure App
this is not meant negatively.
Regards
Needs to be idiot proof, lightweight and versatile. Good luck.
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