For those who want to save main memory, I built this .CAB file exactly alike the Esmertec Java emulator one installed by default in the main memory but working from an external memory card (with its storage folder appdb for games and applications also in the external memory)
HTML:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1MVEH2J9
NOTE: Basically I worked on files, folders of my own device and registry keys from this great thread
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407667
and I've built a .CAB with all that. To avoid mistakes with the orginal one, I created a shortcut called "Java SD.lnk" in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs.
I checked that it worked in some waiting rooms, waiting for the bus, subways, ...
could u upload it here?
no external site such rapid/mega
thx.
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After fiddling with a program called REMOVER, I seemed to have lost the ability to see files/directories on the SD card.
ie When I open NOTES, excel etc.., the ALL FOLDERS only show what is on the main memory. I have set the options to save to Storage Card.
When I use file explorer, the files/directories are still on the sd.
Any ideas would be most welcome.
Please don't tell me a hard reset will be needed!
Have you tried removing sd card, soft reset, replace?
I had tried what you mentioned still didn't work. Hard resetted and still didn't pick up the sd card. I then copied the contents of the sd card to my laptop and formatted the card. I then copied the contents back to the sd which still didn't work. Formatted the sd again and loaded the programs back on one by one. Now all OK.
Appears to have been a hicup on the SD card. I'll be keeping an eye on it.
Thanks for the reply. Paul
frigit said:
I had tried what you mentioned still didn't work. Hard resetted and still didn't pick up the sd card. I then copied the contents of the sd card to my laptop and formatted the card. I then copied the contents back to the sd which still didn't work. Formatted the sd again and loaded the programs back on one by one. Now all OK.
Appears to have been a hicup on the SD card. I'll be keeping an eye on it.
Thanks for the reply. Paul
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Any way of sorting this problem without this drastic solution?
I thought it was just a bug in Windows Mobile 5. For example, I loaded a pdf reader and a gameboy emulator on today, and in both cases, from the program you don't see the files on the SD card.... it's infuriating.
frigit said:
... I seemed to have lost the ability to see files/directories on the SD card.
ie When I open NOTES, excel etc.., the ALL FOLDERS only show what is on the main memory. [...]
When I use file explorer, the files/directories are still on the sd.
Any ideas would be most welcome.
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Normally the office apps only searches for files in the folder "My Documents" and its sub folders. This can help to reduce the time of searching if the memory contains many files. But it also can confuse users which don't know this and store files in other folders. So MS added a "feature", a zero byte large file named "ignore_my_docs" (without any extension).
If this entry exists in the root directory, the office apps searches in every folder for files but ignore "My Documents" and its sub folders (exacly what the name says).
To "help" "stupid" users which neither know that they should use a folder "My Documents" for the office apps on every storage card nor know the "magic file" Windows automatically creates the entry "ignore_my_docs" when it can't find a folder named "My Documents" in the root directory. But Windows does never automatically removes this entry when a new folder named "My Documents" is created (in the root directory).
So try to delete an existing "ignore_my_docs" entry (if you use "My Documents") or create it if there is none (if you store the files elsewhere and) if you cant see existing files under ALL FOLDERS.
Hope that helps some people
JH
PS: If this was the reason for the invisible files than no reset will help (remember it's a feature of windows, not a bug :wink: ) but reformat can help (to get rid of an unnecessary entry).
I'd like to save my new docs into the 'My Documents' folder of Storage Card automatically in order to save space in main (RAM) memory. I know it seems to be easy, just go to 'Options' and set 'Save to' Storage Card. I've done it in case of every frequently used program.
Camera and Excel works well, they place the new file into 'Storage Card\My Documents\My Pictures' and 'Storage Card\My Documents'. But Pocket Word and Notes place the new file just into Storage Card root dir.
Any hint how to solve it? Maybe some registry settings?
Thanks in advance
Tibor
(I posted the same message to Magician forum earlier since I have Magician but no answer came so far. - Maybe here...)
Solution
As it was my first request for assistance I thought the community was more helpful...
But no problem, finally I found the solution. (source: support.microsoft. com, article ID: 319616)
Let ME help if somebody has similar problem: you should delete the zero-byte-long 'ignore_my_docs' file from the root dir of Storage Card. This file prevents the built-in applications from using 'My Documents' dir as default/root folder while listing the files in 'Open File' window.
(If you need further explanation, refer to the above-mentioned Knowledge Base article.)
Cheers,
Tibor
Storage Card is a SD card and to save power it's disabled while the pda is off
many applications which run even when the device is off
use my doc dir
if it was located on a unavailable location like the SD card it would cause issues with the device
It's actually Q319516
i had a problem with available storage being very low.
i installed all applications to the storage card. but now, checking because of the low storage, i see that
- acrobate reader
- google maps
do install on the device. but i choose to install to the storage card...
why is this and what can i do against it?
Google maps cache is stored in your main memory, clear it
@karhoe, thanks for your reply
there is an application called MobileAppMover (http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/ppcstuff.htm) which allows to change all registry entries of a certain application to be changed to another path.
so if you want google maps or adobe reader to be installed on the storage card and free some mb of device storage, follow this procedure:
install application to device
use MobileAppMover to change path (e.g. from \Program Files to \Storage Card\Program Files)
move directory \Program Files\your application to \Storage Card\Program Files\ using Total Commander
edit the *.lnk file in the \Windows\Start Menu with Total Commander
done
it worked for me with google maps (only the cache stays on the device, this can be cleared using google maps options) and adobe reader!
now my device rocks again with over 6mb available storage, before it was less than 1mb!
btw: there used to be tools linke cabinstl and cab installer, but since wm5 the don't work anymore!
does this work with the Windows Live Messenger on WM6 ( Tornado ) ?
Cr4cK_M45t3R_Fl45H said:
does this work with the Windows Live Messenger on WM6 ( Tornado ) ?
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Why dont you try and let us know
I always install to my storage card but it seems that no matter what i do, my device memory keeps filling up! I ran critically low to 785 KB on a HTC Kaiser. i noticed that the programs put things in /Program Files on my device and on /Storage Card/Program Files
Questions!
In the memory app located in settings it says under the main tab that there is "Storage" and "Program". My "Storage" keeps getting full while my "program" has 39.31 MB free. What is the difference?
Can I simply place all the /program files folders over to my /storage card/program files folder and fix shortcuts or does the programs require to take space on my device itself?
I have NO pictures or videos saved on my device, only storage card, and save all attachments/etc to my storage card aswell. I have reflashed and ran memmaid and no use...
I have tried copying the program files folder over to my storage card. Have 40MB free now but all sorts of broken shortcuts. I have turned off "Shortcut To" in windows via a registry key but when I create shortcuts on the device the pesky "Shortcut to" is still showing. I have decided to flash to the lastest rom and let SAMACHI handle my cab installs...
Other Ideas:
Emails:
I sync my Hermes with a huge Outlook personal folder with lots of emails, tasks and notes. By default, email "bodies" are stored as binary files (*.mpb) in the \Windows\Messaging folder (may vary?). This folder can grow in size up to 10 - 15 MB depending on the number of emails. So in my case it wasn't enough to move the attachments to the Storage Card, I also had to move the emails "bodies" to the Storage Card. You can do this by moving the folder to the Storage Card AND changing the registry as explained in the WIKI (Change the location of email and attachments) to point the new folder location. BUT PLEASE MAKE A BACKUP OF EMAILS AND ATTACHMENTS IF YOU ATTEMPT THIS. Windows stores email headers separate from email "bodies" so if you move the "bodies" and the registry points to the wrong location, you might get empty emails and loose all data permanently if you sync. BE CAREFUL...Opera 9.5:
If you use Opera 9.5, you will loose another 10 - 12 MB in the \Application Data\Opera9 folder (may vary depending on opera version). In that case is better to run Opera from the Storage Card and tweak it so that its cache is also in the card.Themes:
Some custom made themes are in the 100 - 500 KB range and if you have many themes in the \Windows folder it can take a couple of megs of storage space. I moved all my themes to the card and keep only the one I use in the \Windows folder.
You could add more system memory by using a rom that has Ramdisk in it. In case you are not familiar, Ramdisk is a feature that basically uses Program memory as storage memory. It is similar to wm2003 and earlier, with the difference that you cannot manually allocate it. It has to be a hex edit in the rom itself. Now, regarding your question... program memory refers to the ram that is allocated for program use (as its name specifies). Basically, the more programs you have running, the lower this number gets. This is the memory resource of your device. Storage memory acts as your "hard drive", where you will place all your stuff (installation programs, pics, etc) provided that you do not send it to your storage card.
A lot of programs will install to device memory whether you instruct them to go in memory or not. Now, it should be perfectly possible to put the programs in the card as long as you rework the shortcuts...
I don't know which GPS program you are using (if any). But if you are, make sure that it is not downloading data into your device directly (things like maps, POIs, etc).
Try the first part of my post though. That might help you some.
Good luck!
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You could add more system memory by using a rom that has Ramdisk in it........
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I wouldn't recommend doing so though, you want all the ram you can get.... less ram equals less speed. If you have other space (such as your storage card) then use that.
I reccomend one of garmins rom, they usually come loaded with extra space (dk4 comes with like 110mb)
Certain programs have to be installed to the main memory, but if you install to the storage card.... you should only lose a couple kb to shortcuts and such...... something isn't adding up.
PS: The difference between storage and program:
Storage= Hard drive memory
Program= RAM memory
PSS: There is a program called clear temp you may want to try, it gets rid of alot of you temp files for you.
After flashing my device and reinstalling everything to the storage card, I have came to the conclusion that some programs install to the device anyway even if you select Install to Storage Card. I went from 110MB free down to 78mb, all in the program files folder! Time to be moving these and fixing shortcuts!
I have a HTC Touch Dual, So I have very limited internal memory (~128mg). But I have a 4gb Class 6 MicroSD. So far I installed here all programs are not "always in use", like Explorer, Tweakers, Opera Mobile, among others.
But those that really needs memory are programs like SPB Mobile Shell and themes, SPB Time, Inesoft Dialer (...)
So far I installed those on internal memory to avoid problems but then I tried install them on Micro SD but looks like always use internal memory anyway (cant understand why). So now I'm thinking using the SKTools move folder and content (and update registry) of those programs.
Should I get any problems ?
yea, some should be a problem as there paths must be hard coded..instead of moving using STK, try editing the cab files and channging there default installation path
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yea, some should be a problem as there paths must be hard coded..instead of moving using STK, try editing the cab files and channging there default installation path
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But if some paths are hard coded, when I install programs in English dont work, because my ROM is portuguese: so Program Files is Programas.