I always install to my storage card but it seems that no matter what i do, my device memory keeps filling up! I ran critically low to 785 KB on a HTC Kaiser. i noticed that the programs put things in /Program Files on my device and on /Storage Card/Program Files
Questions!
In the memory app located in settings it says under the main tab that there is "Storage" and "Program". My "Storage" keeps getting full while my "program" has 39.31 MB free. What is the difference?
Can I simply place all the /program files folders over to my /storage card/program files folder and fix shortcuts or does the programs require to take space on my device itself?
I have NO pictures or videos saved on my device, only storage card, and save all attachments/etc to my storage card aswell. I have reflashed and ran memmaid and no use...
I have tried copying the program files folder over to my storage card. Have 40MB free now but all sorts of broken shortcuts. I have turned off "Shortcut To" in windows via a registry key but when I create shortcuts on the device the pesky "Shortcut to" is still showing. I have decided to flash to the lastest rom and let SAMACHI handle my cab installs...
Other Ideas:
Emails:
I sync my Hermes with a huge Outlook personal folder with lots of emails, tasks and notes. By default, email "bodies" are stored as binary files (*.mpb) in the \Windows\Messaging folder (may vary?). This folder can grow in size up to 10 - 15 MB depending on the number of emails. So in my case it wasn't enough to move the attachments to the Storage Card, I also had to move the emails "bodies" to the Storage Card. You can do this by moving the folder to the Storage Card AND changing the registry as explained in the WIKI (Change the location of email and attachments) to point the new folder location. BUT PLEASE MAKE A BACKUP OF EMAILS AND ATTACHMENTS IF YOU ATTEMPT THIS. Windows stores email headers separate from email "bodies" so if you move the "bodies" and the registry points to the wrong location, you might get empty emails and loose all data permanently if you sync. BE CAREFUL...Opera 9.5:
If you use Opera 9.5, you will loose another 10 - 12 MB in the \Application Data\Opera9 folder (may vary depending on opera version). In that case is better to run Opera from the Storage Card and tweak it so that its cache is also in the card.Themes:
Some custom made themes are in the 100 - 500 KB range and if you have many themes in the \Windows folder it can take a couple of megs of storage space. I moved all my themes to the card and keep only the one I use in the \Windows folder.
You could add more system memory by using a rom that has Ramdisk in it. In case you are not familiar, Ramdisk is a feature that basically uses Program memory as storage memory. It is similar to wm2003 and earlier, with the difference that you cannot manually allocate it. It has to be a hex edit in the rom itself. Now, regarding your question... program memory refers to the ram that is allocated for program use (as its name specifies). Basically, the more programs you have running, the lower this number gets. This is the memory resource of your device. Storage memory acts as your "hard drive", where you will place all your stuff (installation programs, pics, etc) provided that you do not send it to your storage card.
A lot of programs will install to device memory whether you instruct them to go in memory or not. Now, it should be perfectly possible to put the programs in the card as long as you rework the shortcuts...
I don't know which GPS program you are using (if any). But if you are, make sure that it is not downloading data into your device directly (things like maps, POIs, etc).
Try the first part of my post though. That might help you some.
Good luck!
egzthunder1 said:
You could add more system memory by using a rom that has Ramdisk in it........
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I wouldn't recommend doing so though, you want all the ram you can get.... less ram equals less speed. If you have other space (such as your storage card) then use that.
I reccomend one of garmins rom, they usually come loaded with extra space (dk4 comes with like 110mb)
Certain programs have to be installed to the main memory, but if you install to the storage card.... you should only lose a couple kb to shortcuts and such...... something isn't adding up.
PS: The difference between storage and program:
Storage= Hard drive memory
Program= RAM memory
PSS: There is a program called clear temp you may want to try, it gets rid of alot of you temp files for you.
After flashing my device and reinstalling everything to the storage card, I have came to the conclusion that some programs install to the device anyway even if you select Install to Storage Card. I went from 110MB free down to 78mb, all in the program files folder! Time to be moving these and fixing shortcuts!
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I've been installing plenty of programs on my SD card recently and I have xda mobile 6 rom. Everytime I install a program though, it still makes its way to my windows file directory that over a course of installing programs, it accumulates and takes over space. Is there a way to solve this problem permanently by installing those "install" files onto my sd card only?
Or perhaps using total comander to move the files around and it would still work despite not being in my main memory windows directory on the phone. It should really be on the storage card.
If any one could help me out with this problem, because I went from having 45mb on my main storage to only having only 25mb despite me "installing" the files on the storage card which they appear to be on there, but my main memory is still being eaten up,
much thanks in advance.
Sorry if you thought of this already, but have you configured Pocket Outlook to store your email and attachments on the storage card? by default, they are stored on main memory.
also, there is a problem with system files being deployed in the memory card since the initial read is from the main memory. those files can't move to the memory card.. or... maybe they can, but not in a regular.. altering registry or installation a program way.
ineluki-I don't use pocket outlook at all. And everyone that I have moved onto the memory card, I did already.
nir36-is there anyway to move those install files away from the main memory since registry alteration doesn't work?
does anyone know of any way to move this around?
unfortunatly, you can't move those files without altering the base of the device. if there is another way, it's not a way i know about.. but it's unlikely you can use your system files from your SD card.. sorry
Although I have all photos, music, apps etc pointed to 'external' memory I am now getting low memory (<2MB) warnings. I have manaully purged (as much as I feel confident with) main memory and even uninstalled and re-installed programs to ensure that they reside in external memory. However when I search for files >64KB there are no files reported in main. This is driving me crazy and I need help before I microwave my HTC Diamond. Please, please point me in the right direction
The messages are probably not for storage memory but for either RAM or virtual memory. Close applications instead of minimizing them (the usual default). Get a task manager and see what's going on.
I hoped that that was the case however I have a RAM cleaner tool and even after running that and killing all processes I still have low memory. Is there any way I can determine what is taking up main memory?
you know one of my friends has the same problem with his samsung omni and i can't for the life of me find what is taking up so much room. he is pretty back to stock and we have tried everything. i tell him to return his phone as defective but he hasn't. is this a winmo problem that could be a bad code or is it just dumb luck that this has happened to an htc and samsung?
Calendar items, phone logs, messages reside in main memory too -- have you cleared those?
I do use the calendar and maybe clearing some of the old entries will help. However I do not use the handset as a voice phone, only data, and have no call logs or texts taking up space. I do use it for email so will check that too. That said it's currently using 83.36MB out of 84.56MB and doubt if the odd deletions will make a great difference. Is there a way of partitioning some of the storage card space over to extend the main storage area?
You can relocate \My Documents pretty easily with a registry change. You can also move your PIE cache (sk tools will help with this). These things might help. I thought the diamond had 4G of internal memory? Does it have a small main memory and then a large internal storage memory? I'm afraid I'm not that familiar with it.
You may want to install ClearTemp or something similar to clean out your temp and volatile folders. And you're sure it's not a ram issue? Do you have the problem immediately after a soft reset, or does it take a while?
I may have been leading you down the garden path. When I run the memory app' in Settings there are two totals: Storage and Program. In storage 82.7MB out of 84.5MB is in use and in program 78MB out of 111MB is in use. The Diamond complains of being almost out of memory shortly after it is turned on. Without a guide to follow I'm a little ill at ease attempting registry changes even though I have advanced config and PHM RegEdit installed. I will try ClearTemp if I can install it! Thanks for the help to date.
Does anyone know how to clear out the 'storage' area of the HTC as Opera is now refusing to run (not enough cache space...?) I'm facing the prospect of reloading the firmware (again) with no confidence I won't be back in this situation again in a couple of months
The out-of-memory warning message is activated after the ram memory is lower than a desired value .
The activation pattern and the threshold value are controlled by a set of registry entries under \HKCU\Software\Htc\TaskManager\
Can Play With It By Changing The Threshold Value In Registry.
Thanks for that, however at < 1-2MB of storage area remaining my problem is how do I recover storage capacity? I used ClearTemp and I now have around 7MB free which is much better though not ideal. Surely there must be a way of tweaking the storage / program balance through one of the toolkits?
I had the same prob few month back. The best way is to Hard reset > reinstall programs your REALLY NEED to internal storage except .net C Framework or Smart Protect etc... [install those types of programs to main memory]
The other way is
Buy SkTools if you dont have it
move things ie. programs to internal storage!
I select internal memory every time I install an app which further mystifies me. Now I can't get Opera to run.... it's just a year of break downs for me
Why is it when i install any program on memory card it goes to the main storage. Anyone has notice that on the HD2, is there a solution for this. Need your help please
buddaking said:
Why is it when i install any program on memory card it goes to the main storage. Anyone has notice that on the HD2, is there a solution for this. Need your help please
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i guess that when you install something on storage card some files like shortcut and registry files are sent in phone storage
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i guess that when you install something on storage card some files like shortcut and registry files are sent in phone storage
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ok....thanks for that info. so unfortunate there is no solution for this.
Errm what.
Hey Budda could you explain what you mean a little more here mate? i.e. how do you know that the application is being installed to the main memory rather than your SD card. Are you checking in 'my device\program files' in explorer (first to see that its in main memory) and then 'my device\storage card\program files' to see if it's on the SD?
Just so that you are aware in order to be able to see shortcuts in either the start menu or sense that shortcut MUST be in main memory in the 'my device\windows\start menu\programs' folder or you wont be able to launch the app easily. - These files are tiny, between 24 - 54 bytes, so very little impact on main memory. To put it in perspective you would need ~18000 of them to take up just 1MB!
The registry also lives in main memory although in all reality doesn't take up much space adding the odd key here and there. (again the odd few bytes)
Some applications NEED to install some files to 'my device\windows' in order to function correctly, again this is not something which can be stopped.
BTW - Any app I install to my storage card does in fact go there (with the exception of parts of the programs I have mentioned above) So in answer to your original question, no I don't see the problem at all.
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Hey Budda could you explain what you mean a little more here mate? i.e. how do you know that the application is being installed to the main memory rather than your SD card. Are you checking in 'my device\program files' in explorer (first to see that its in main memory) and then 'my device\storage card\program files' to see if it's on the SD?
Just so that you are aware in order to be able to see shortcuts in either the start menu or sense that shortcut MUST be in main memory in the 'my device\windows\start menu\programs' folder or you wont be able to launch the app easily. - These files are tiny, between 24 - 54 bytes, so very little impact on main memory. To put it in perspective you would need ~18000 of them to take up just 1MB!
The registry also lives in main memory although in all reality doesn't take up much space adding the odd key here and there. (again the odd few bytes)
Some applications NEED to install some files to 'my device\windows' in order to function correctly, again this is not something which can be stopped.
BTW - Any app I install to my storage card does in fact go there (with the exception of parts of the programs I have mentioned above) So in answer to your original question, no I don't see the problem at all.
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Well that was a bit brutal...
Actually I kind of know what he's saying.. I've found with a few (eg. Experiment 13) they over ride and install to the handset memory anyway. I thought it might be down to it needing the extra speed, might be wrong. I do agree in a whole tho, most apps do install bits 'n' bobs on the handset but hardly worth worrying about (from a storage point of view anyway)
Hi,
I flashed my HTC Touch Diamond yesterday with this ROM. Suffice to say Im pretty pleased with it, however my Diamond doesnt have a lot of storage space left (on the device, i.e. not the 4GB internal storage or RAM) and as a result I keep getting nasty messages telling me to free up some space etc...
I appreciate that its a beefy ROM with Sense 2.5 but I dont understand what is happening. When i flashed the phone I had about 8MB free. I put a 6MB ringtone into the ringtones folder before noticing how little space that left me with (2MB) and then deleted it. Now a couple of days later I notice that I have less than 1MB of space, yet I havent installed any apps to the device storage so what has been filling the space up? This morning I attempted to install Facebook and Google Maps to the storage card via Marketplace as these were already on the device storage but it doesnt seem to have freed up any space.
Does anyone know how I can free up some space please? None of the apps cooked into the ROM appear in the "Remove Programs" app.
Cheers.
Hi,
Things like e-mail import, text messages, temporary files just take a lot of space of the memory.
AthenaROM is not very good, I suggest you flash for example Gen Y D2X.
Hard-resetting is the only way to clean it up, most of the files are system files that will return after deletion.
Hi thanks for your reply.
I'll check out that other ROM; for the moment I've simply copied some non-Marketplace apps to the storage card and placed shortcuts into the /Windows/Start Menu folder on the device memory. Only thing is the icons dont show, anyone have any ideas please?
Thanks.
Good Evening Everyone !
You may have already seen this subject many times but I really need help as I can't find a way to fix my very particular situation.
Actually, HTC Chacha is a very particular smarthpone as it contains only 150 Mo Internal (/data).
I have also a 2gb sdcard which is composed of 1,3Gb truly external (for photos and my documents, this partition comes unavailable when I plug my smartphone to my computer for instance) and the other part is sdext2 which remains mounted inside the smartphone at any time.
Even though internal storage is reduced, I managed to set-up many application thanks to Linked2SD which helps me move apk and dex toward my 2nd partition (sdext2). However, as you must know, an app is composed of apk, dex and data. This last part is still stored in the internal memory (150 mo) (Link2SD does'nt link the data of the application but only the application itself).
How can I move those data to my external sdcard ?
Second question, is it possible to do this with data from the application contacts (in this particular case, data = my contacts database) which apk and dex haven't been linked by Link2SD. I would like to "get rid" of my contacts because 30 Mo of database makes my smartphone run out of internal storage (you can laugh, but the OS (Sense) doens't like this at all !!!).
I thought about FolderMount to move data stored in data/data to a folder on my sdcard but I don't how to do ?
Do I need first to move manually the data of the application (stored in /data/data) to my sdcard and then create a link ?
The source will be the folder in sdcard that I've just moved and the destination would be its former location ?
I hope I have been clear. Ask me if I haven't.
Thank you so much for you help !