i see some rooms with 3d driver
what is ? 3d driver for htc touch cruise ?
sry for bad english
Hi 3d driver is as the name suggest a driver that enables hardware acceleration of opengl graphics on the polaris, It was never an official release by HTC but was made by a few very clever developers. Unfortunately the driver was never quite finished off for the polaris as development moved on to support the newer phones. The reason you see roms with 3d and without 3d is because the 3d driver takes away about 15mb of ram so some people just prefer to have more memmory and no 3d as the last time i played around with it the 3d did not work with things like spb mobile shell anyway. So it was sort of really cool but kinda useless ( no disrespect to developers intended)
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Hi 3d driver is as the name suggest a driver that enables hardware acceleration of opengl graphics on the polaris, It was never an official release by HTC but was made by a few very clever developers. Unfortunately the driver was never quite finished off for the polaris as development moved on to support the newer phones. The reason you see roms with 3d and without 3d is because the 3d driver takes away about 15mb of ram so some people just prefer to have more memmory and no 3d as the last time i played around with it the 3d did not work with things like spb mobile shell anyway. So it was sort of really cool but kinda useless ( no disrespect to developers intended)
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really thanks for useful Iformation
Related
http://www.pocketgamer.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5280
have anybody tried it on xda's ?
SWEEEET!
This will be one of the FIRST things to go on my Universal when I get it..
Hopefully next week.. EARLY next week...
You know that without the graphic accelerator it's running at around 3fps apparently?
Still an amazing piece of work.
V
Yes, I know..
But it's Quake 3!!!
I my previous computer LAGGED when running Q3!
I used to love that game. i only ever played the first level, but man, I played it a lot. Now I'm all COD, but those were the good all days before t'interweb.
I'm quite surprised that HTC didn't put an accelerator in the Universal. But buying an x50v just for the three games that use it wasn't worth it.
V
I'd much rather have USB host support than graphics accellerator..
Or both...
wonder if the ATI graphic chip in xda2's would help anything that
is if the game supported it
You could write support for it..
It's open source!
the ATI graphic chip SdK is not soo easy to get hold of though
These roms are so much faster, i really like them, but my only holdback is no direct draw. Is there a reason why the rom's cant support both the Diamond Drivers and Direct Draw? or has no one really goten around to it yet?
The official 6.1 rom DOES comes w/ the DD support. And it can be verify by S2U2 dd enable and core player dd playback. U got to check w/ the chef of unofficial rom why DD is not support on his/her rom.
Hermes graphic is better bcoz it has ATI chip on it, Kaiser has Qualcomm which claim has graphics accelerator but until now still no good news about a driver which can use the function. Diamond has 3D graphics accelerator & i dont think we can have the ported driver to work with our Kaiser. We still hope all the experts will continue their research & make us happy
Well one thing i really like about some of the new roms is it doesn't have as much of a touchscreen lag bug. when im panning in htc album it's smooth. before it skipped around. games still aren't completely playable, but it's better. HOWEVER, without direct draw some just aren't playable at all lol.
I have been using the Tilt (original Kaiser) since the day it
came out. I think it is a great device. However, the
BIGGEST COMPLAINT I have always had was the SLOW graphics.
I am still running Windows Mobile 6.0 waiting for a
good / stable ROM to come out by someone with great
graphics performace. There have been some fantastic cooked ROMS
for the device but I have always held off waiting for
something with good graphics drivers in it. Did I miss
something that is worth moving to now that 6.1 and even 6.5
roms are out and about?
I have seen a lot of posts about which roms are best,
etc, etc and why but graphics performace has always been an
issue from what I have seen...
There are so many posts and even entire sites (see
below if interested) about our device and the poor
performance. Is there finally a decent solution to speed up
at least simple 2D drawing operations, including the
user interfaces of normal applications?
Does a good Mobile 6.1 or 6.5 ROM make much difference
in 2D or 3D on the Kaiser vs 6.0? Perhaps that
is the easiest solution to getting good graphics performance??!
Since the Tilt uses the MSM720x chipset and many other
devices use that chipset, has someone finally cooked a
rom for the tilt with good accelerated drivers from another
device yet and that is a good solution?
ALL COMMENTS WELCOME.
Of course good OpenGL ES and D3D acceleration would be great too.
Seems our device by default is only using software mode
Many now say our Kaiser is dead / "obsolete hardware" now and
decent drivers are not worth anyone's trouble.
I'm not sure what I think about this.
I understand there have been a million posts
and lots of threads like:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339745&page=109
and even
http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080717_1
which seems to have ended over a year ago.
Perhaps that was when someone found a way of enabling
OpenGL ES on Android? Either way, can someone make some comments
on what they think?
Look around you at the 1000s of posts, and try the search button. We solved the graphics issue a long time ago.
Nothing to do with ROM Development and as polyrhythmic said we solved the graphics issue a long time ago.
On that note thread closed.
The sensation setion on Fpse (PS1 emulator) has be opened today
http://www.fpsece.net/forum2/viewforum.php?f=44
Every feedback of Fpse running on the HTC Sensation is welcome !
So far, I'm not really happy with the results, it seems that an Xplay defeats my Sensation, so I'm sure there's a lot of space for optimization here!
I definitly hope Schtruck will have a look at it
I guess Fpse uses only one core so far, that's the only explaination I can find.
Every info, feedback, opinion, experience might be useful
Thanks !
99% android apps dont take advantage out of the additional core. And it will take some time until they do because they have to be programed differently. So i guess for an emulator like FPSE your performance should be about the same as on a DesireHD with singlecore 1.2ghz.
But then the Xperia Play has the about the same hardware as the DHD so i dont know :/
What games do you have fps issues with? I run almost everything at full speed that i tried (TombRaider 3, Ridge Racer, FF7, Resident Evil) on my DesireHD at 1.1ghz.
I know Schtruck has better results for Tekken 3, with screen filtering ON, with his Xplay
(tekken 3 has always been my reference for test, since 2009, when I was beta testing with my Omnia 1 i900 )
I remember when we started to have multitouch on the HD2, firts with Morphgear, then for FpseCE, when originally the HD2 only supported pinch to zoom, and the OS was not supposed to handle multitouch.......
So now we have a dual core device, the OS doesn't support dual core except for a few HTC homebrews? I hope devs will manage to fix all this, it's kind of the same situation, having to bypass a limitation due to the OS using what HTC did for some apps
It will come eventually. But implementing working dualcore support isnt an easy thing to do from what i've heard^^ Its not the same thing as using multitouch.
Even on PC where multicore is established for years, support is still very basic. But im not a programmer so maybe someone else could explain it in details or use the mighty google.
I know how to use google, don't worry, but I've also seen many miracles since I've been in smartphones world, like for example playing tekken 2 full speed on a 624mhz CPU and no GPU or graphic chip, and I now cross my fingers.
Hello, I live in Spain, and here still have not the Evo 3D and it's not clear if it will arrive in this month (as HTC Facebook Spain said) or it will be delayed until September as in U.K. is said.
Well the question is:
Buy right here inmediatelly a cheaper Optimus 3D or wait for very expansive Evo 3D ?
So... Is there anyone that really had test both of them ?
I have all technical information, and I've seen the Dogfight comparison video but these really doesn't help my in my decission.
I am very interested in game compatibility, the GPS behaviour, battery duration and internet browsing experience.
All information about these things will be really appreciated Thanks in advance for your help.
so what i heard is, that the 3D thing is better on the LG phone, but i only can say, that the 3D effect on the LG is very cool.
i know: the EVO 3D can't make 2D videos in FullHD. The LG can.
The Evo has more RAM, but until now i cant notice that 512MB aren't enough.
I would recommend the LG phone. I am very happy with it.
Thanks a lot; really here in Spain people with O3D are very happy, and I have seen the 3D effect yesterday in the Optimus and I really liked it too, problem is... to compare it with the Evo
aliza said:
Thanks a lot; really here in Spain people with O3D are very happy, and I have seen the 3D effect yesterday in the Optimus and I really liked it too, problem is... to compare it with the Evo
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Then watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ssOMl7PWc - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G6oemo900A&feature=relmfu - part 2
All I can tell is that LG Optimus 3D is fantastic,great quality,beautifull screen,very fast and 3D looks amazing I think you should go with LG O3D
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Then watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ssOMl7PWc - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G6oemo900A&feature=relmfu - part 2
All I can tell is that LG Optimus 3D is fantastic,great quality,beautifull screen,very fast and 3D looks amazing I think you should go with LG O3D
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Thanks a lot, but I had seen those videos before and really didn't answer my questions about compatibility and GPS
i dont think that there are huge differences in these points. so the hardware is almost equal. i use the optimus 3D for navigation. no problems with that.
internet browsing the same. after gingerbread update both standard browser will be the same. i use opera for browsing. its the best for me.
i am not a gamer so i cant tell you anything about that, but both Evo and LG are highend phones... so the differences in those things will be minimal.
that the evo cant record in fullHD was the main reason for me against the evo. ...and of course the price AND that the LG is available in europe
but of course... if you are nut sure.. just wait till you can test the evo by your self. have you looked into EVO 3D forum? perhaps there are more information about that.
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Thanks a lot, but I had seen those videos before and really didn't answer my questions about compatibility and GPS
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Well I dont have Evo 3D but I had same dillema last week ,and I chosed O3D...
I do not know what you mean when you say compatibility, but I can tell you that GPS works great on O3D.. it find's signal very quickly even when I am in the house
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Well I dont have Evo 3D but I had same dillema last week ,and I chosed O3D...
I do not know what you mean when you say compatibility, but I can tell you that GPS works great on O3D.. it find's signal very quickly even when I am in the house
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With compatibility I mean about games that work or don't work in this terminal.
Thanks for the GPs info!
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With compatibility I mean about games that work or don't work in this terminal.
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LG Optimus 3D can run NVIDA Tegra games..
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but I can tell you that GPS works great on O3D.. it find's signal very quickly even when I am in the house
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Yes I noticed that too, I've never had a phone (or any other GPS device) before that got a GPS lock in my house, these must have a very sensitive receiver.
Pete
aliza said:
With compatibility I mean about games that work or don't work in this terminal.
Thanks for the GPs info!
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Everything works just fine ,apps and games are not the problem
thanks a lot everybody, and excuse me for my bad english, I think I'm gonna try to pickup the Optimus 3D this weekend.
Game compatibility is better on O3D, because it has older PowerVR SGX540, which is widely supported. evo3d has adreno220 which is new chip and thus can have compatibility problems.
evo3d has higher resolution which is not fully supported in some applications.
Many users are complaining of crooked display on evo3d.
O3D`s display has much better brightness and contrast.
GPS in evo3d is poor. You can find threads on web about its inaccuracy.
I have found evo3d to be quite buggy device which has only one advantage to O3D. more RAM.
The Optimus has one more proved advantage. It has native support for 3D MKV movies. No need to convert at all if you have a huge enough memory card.
As the others already mentioned the GPS is VERY GOOD. I get a fix in under 5 sec with iGo.
Really thanks a lot to everybody.
Now I am looking for the device, I hope I can get one tomorrow.
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LG Optimus 3D can run NVIDA Tegra games..
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source/proof?
TheOnly1 said:
The Optimus has one more proved advantage. It has native support for 3D MKV movies. No need to convert at all if you have a huge enough memory card.
As the others already mentioned the GPS is VERY GOOD. I get a fix in under 5 sec with iGo.
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Cannot agree more with the speed for GPS. Coming from SGS where the GPS is simply useless as you'll need to give it 5 minutes to get it fixed for 5 sec.
Also the GPS that comes with O3D is as fast as my Garmin-Asus M10 which is interesting