Need opinion about Android - General Topics

Hi,
I really need your input about Android. I am planning to move to HTC Desire, which runs Android 2.1.
I really know what's good about Android, I really do.
But ...
What are the known issues with it? Seriously, there must be some issues, right?
If you can come up with reasoning why I should NOT move to Android, please let me know.
At this moment, I am using HTC Kaiser with custom WM6.1 Rom.
Thanks,
Sincerely,
gogol

hmm
This will be a quiet thread.
theres nothin' wrong with the android. its perfect (or will be)

The only problem with the HTC Desire I can see is that when newer versions of Android come out, you wont be able to upgrade to them, you'd have to wait for HTC To release an updated version with Sense UI.
This wont effect you at all, being on XDA you'll just be able to download an updated rom with an updated version of Android as soon as it hits the AOSP

Just to compare, the Nexus Android 2.1 rocks with very few bugs that can't be fixed by XDA! Check out it's XDA forum for details, info, pro's, etc.

There is really nothing that android can do that windows mobile cant.

galaxys said:
Just to compare, the Nexus Android 2.1 rocks with very few bugs that can't be fixed by XDA! Check out it's XDA forum for details, info, pro's, etc.
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Agreed, think this is why the HTC Desire will most likely be my next device

josefcrist said:
There is really nothing that android can do that windows mobile cant.
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Surely this is a positive? You get all the functions of Windows Mobile in a nice easy to use interface, finger friendly, more supported and an app store with over 10000 apps?

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Can you put Android on Iphone

Didnt see anything in a search for this. Is there anyway to put Android on the iphone, anyone know a tutorial or anything?
Now that would be an improvement!!
Everything is possible if a talanted developer puts enough man hours into it. It won't run smoothly with all the missing drivers and such, but it is doable.
android on the Leo would be much cooler IMO!
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Why does almost everybody want android on there phones..
Just buy a android device LOL
before android there were people who wanted iphone osx on their wm phone
and people who wanted wm os on their iphone too
The one constant is that some people are never happy no matter what they're offered, and get off on whining.
cypherphone said:
android on the Leo would be much cooler IMO!
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Google for rumours about HTC Dragon and maybe we have "Leo" with Android
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TheBrit said:
Now that would be an improvement!!
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No no that would be a setback
Wow...
Overloaded said:
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Why does almost everybody want android on there phones..
Just buy a android device LOL
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I already have a mytouch and g1 and cliq. I want a bigger screen
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Um no its not...but thanks for your useless input
it's not possible.
the iphone os is protected by security certificates.
it was a lot of work developing the jailbreak, through an exploit in the os.
not to mention what work would be to port the complete Android OS.
but why would you do that anyway? Buy a device dedicated to what you need for optimum performance.
cypherphone said:
android on the Leo would be much cooler IMO!
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^This.
Put android on the Leo and i will but a Leo tomorrow
jonneymendoza said:
^This.
Put android on the Leo and i will but a Leo tomorrow
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If you don't actually care about running WM and want an exclusively android device, rumor has it that HTC will be releasing a 1GHz Android device which may be similar to the Leo, so you might want to wait a while. Besides, Android would run much better on a device with a native Android bootloader and compatible hardware (meaning no tweaks to get it working).
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
If you don't actually care about running WM and want an exclusively android device, rumor has it that HTC will be releasing a 1GHz Android device which may be similar to the Leo, so you might want to wait a while. Besides, Android would run much better on a device with a native Android bootloader and compatible hardware (meaning no tweaks to get it working).
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True but when will it come out? my contract has ran out now
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True but when will it come out? my contract has ran out now
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I don't think anyone outside HTC knows the answer to that, only that it will probably be in a while. However, they (may) have a prototype, as shown here, which is a good sign developmentally.
I think Android on iPhone would be pretty sweet too. The iPhone is a nice piece of hardware, but I am a die-hard Android user.
I've done a lot of Google searching, and it seems like there is no news after they got the Linux kernel to run with openiBoot. The HTC Dream (T-Mobile G1) and the iPhone both use ARM11-family processors. I imagine that porting the Java VM over wouldn't be that hard for someone who knows what they're doing.
Kind of sad, really. I would proudly rock an Android iPhone.
i see necro post...but iphone < nexus one.
android 2.1 + 1ghz & 512ram
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I'm at the cross road of deciding between the next iPhone versus the HTC Supersonic myself and still trying to compare between these os before making the final decision. I would like to invite you guys with good Android knowledge to participate in the following thread and to supply specific detailed information on the full capability of Android phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=665257
looking forward to your contribution.
Cheers.

[Q] OK i just got a HD7....

I was wondering...is there custom roms for this phone? can you install a full functional version of android on it? and if you can do all this can you use a program like odin to flash back in case of mess ups?
Why buy a HD7 if you want to flash android onto it? seems totally pointless...
Why buy an hd2 and run android on it? Because some prefer to run android on their touchscreen device.... thats the thing xda provides, options, customization, and and extended free will with our devices, I could run wp7, windows 6.5, android with or without htc sense, froyo, gingerbread, you name it on my device because of xda. So why? Because it is possible and some prefer to
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XsceneXhippieX said:
Why buy an hd2 and run android on it? Because some prefer to run android on their touchscreen device.... thats the thing xda provides, options, customization, and and extended free will with our devices, I could run wp7, windows 6.5, android with or without htc sense, froyo, gingerbread, you name it on my device because of xda. So why? Because it is possible and some prefer to
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Well said.
The HD7, because of being so similar to an HD2 hardware wise, would make an excellent Android phone because of the cap. buttons.
XsceneXhippieX said:
Why buy an hd2 and run android on it? Because some prefer to run android on their touchscreen device.... thats the thing xda provides, options, customization, and and extended free will with our devices, I could run wp7, windows 6.5, android with or without htc sense, froyo, gingerbread, you name it on my device because of xda. So why? Because it is possible and some prefer to
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we are talking about an HD7 here
So its pointless to buy a device with no custom rom support, ports and such and magically expect to be able to flash anything on it
he should have
1. done his research to see if it can be actually done first
2. bought an hd2 if he wanted to run an unofficial OS
mike21pr said:
we are talking about an HD7 here
So its pointless to buy a device with no custom rom support, ports and such and magically expect to be able to flash anything on it
he should have
1. done his research to see if it can be actually done first
2. bought an hd2 if he wanted to run an unofficial OS
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if I liked men I would've hugged you for that response
seriously research the flipping device
you get an HTC HD7 and you want android? You get a wp7 and want a custom rom? No custom roms and thankfully no android
“Freedom is not merely the opportunity to do as one pleases; neither is it merely the opportunity to choose between set alternatives. Freedom is, first of all, the chance to formulate the available choices, to argue over them -- and then, the opportunity to choose.”
All the OP did was ask a question. Why the crucifixion?
If the thread went like this: "Bought an HD7... WP7 is smellier than monkey butt... where can I get an Android Phone Rom for it" then throw those stones.
But if you did want a 4" HTC phone the Desire HD is a better Android phone than an HD7 will ever be.
I recall your sig used to be HD7 - future Android phone, not true Marty?
nicksti said:
All the OP did was ask a question. Why the crucifixion?
If the thread went like this: "Bought an HD7... WP7 is smellier than monkey butt... where can I get an Android Phone Rom for it" then throw those stones.
But if you did want a 4" HTC phone the Desire HD is a better Android phone than an HD7 will ever be.
I recall your sig used to be HD7 - future Android phone, not true Marty?
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My sig used to be a lot of things. No longer being in my sig doesn't mean forgotten As for Android on it, I no longer use Android on my HD2 either. I doubt I would bother with Android on the HD7. But I might. Who knows.
I'm finding new-found love for WinMo (HTC Sense version) on my HD2. Will be getting the Android version of an iPhone, the Nexus S, soon enough to sate my love for Android and Android apps.
TorelliB said:
I was wondering...is there custom roms for this phone? can you install a full functional version of android on it? and if you can do all this can you use a program like odin to flash back in case of mess ups?
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No and no.
Oooooh can I upgrade my Nexus S to WP7 please?
Jim Coleman said:
Oooooh can I upgrade my Nexus S to WP7 please?
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Yes you can! First take a hammer....
Okay I think the OP's question has been answered.
No need for the sarcasm and condescending answers provided by some....
Closed.

Android on the Arrive/7 Pro

Searched, and haven't found a thread on this.
I'm due for an upgrade in July on my Sprint line, and I was almost certain I was going to go with the EVO 3D (when it comes out), but then I saw the HTC Arrive and kinda liked it. The thing is, though, that I really like Android as well. I know dual-booting Android was possible on the Touch Pro 2, so I was wondering if it's possible to do the same thing with the Arrive/7 Pro, or if having Windows Phone 7 prevents it from being able to do this. Thanks!
It cannot be done as of now.
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The HTC 7 Pro has the same SoC as HD7 and HD2, and both of them already have Android.
Why Android still can't be ported for 7 Pro?
I'm pretty sure that hardspl must be available before we can flash custom roms on our pros. More imporantly some sort of application like haret for WM6 but for WP7 would probably also need to be developed first. Hopefully some fine day it will all be possible like on the HD2.
i was looking at how they dual boot with hd2, and it looks like they boot from sdcard, and flash wp7. we shouldn't need to flash wp7, but booting android is sdcard boot. so i see no reason why we can't boot from sdcard, unless we need a special boot loader, and the boot loader they need doesn't have the access to wp7 to get the boot loader working properly and that goes beyond me please correct me if I'm wrong.
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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Just got my Arrive from Evo. LOVE IT. My Fiance loves it aswell surprisingly and she is getting one soon :]. Atleast untill Evo 3D..
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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thanks for your opinion....
exilkubaner said:
thanks for your opinion....
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not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.
eric12341 said:
not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.
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and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.
Acsteffy87 said:
and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.
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its not fragmentation thats an issue for consumers its malware, there have been numerous reports about this already, im not an iFan either
I really don't care whether you or anyone says android is worse or better than wp7 but it would be nice to switch if one wants to. so when there is a thread discussing the possibility to port android on the 7 pro, there is no need for no-sayers, since they can occupy their brains with other stuff.
i would love to see this, but especially since there is only 1 sd-card, its either flashing one or the other i think...
Not possible on wp7 YET
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Hello all,
I am new to mobile phones and I would like to post some questions, which are general in fact, but closely related to the topic and the Arrive device.
I would like to have another OS on it and I have found a way to change the SD cart it is running with, so I should be able to change or modify it with no trouble.
I imagine that I could find another HTC device with identical hardware and deploy it's ROM to this one in a manner similar to HD2's approach. I am so new that I already can feel how dumn is that ... but still.
I need to clarify some basics in order to know what to look for. First of all what does the firmware does and how it is related to the OS. Can I imagine it is something like BIOS, which controls the main hardware like processor, ram, telephony, etc? If so what stops me of formatting the SD and booting another system from it on the same hardware.
Another thing is what the ROM contains and how it is related to the OS. I am with the impression that it has everything in it -- OS distributive, firmware backup and bootloader maybe. If that is correct am I free to cook a ROM that contains the same firmware (as I imagine it like a BIOS alternative), the bootloader of another system and its distributive? Of course the ROM that is already on the device may and most probably will try to stop me, so I will need to somehow format it.
I do not express myself too good due to lack of expertise, but I know computers and I believe you will know what to tell me to straighten my thoughts.
Thank you in advance for any information you provide.
Sincere,
drel
At this stage, pesonally, I think wp7 is the best os to me. At it is not laggy as android does and looks more beautiful than iOS...
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Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel
drelisimo said:
Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel
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just buy an Android phone!
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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I think what you meant to say was "Why would anyone have a different opinion than my awesome opinion?" As much as I love WP7 I'd love to be able to use Android with this chassis. Choice is always good. There is no Android phone with this keyboard.
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Bump. Having no Bluetooth SPP has just pissed me off for a year. About to get an Galaxy Nexus S come May, so I don't mind tinkering with my Arrive for now.
hello?
Any news about dual booting android on arrive / HD7 Pro? I read the thread and some users just talk crap. " Why this? Why that?" Why not, may I ask. I Love WP7, i really think that beats the crap out of everything else. But why can't we dream of having android too? As far as I know, Android has at the moment much more apps ( free and payed ones ) available than WP7. My brother-in-law has veetle ( just an example ) on his Xperia S, and he can watch live football/soccer which I can't cuz there is no veetle available. And who can name veetle, can name many others too. The point is: Combining the best of two worlds would makes fully profit from our beloved phones, which we payed ( at least I did ). I really hope that some news about this stuff.
Best Regards
Miiky

[Q] possible to port meego?

Hey People and developers! i was wondering if its possible to port meego os to our htc sensation, since meego is based on a linux kernal and i believe its open source. i know not all features would work but if development gets put into this i believe its possible. I hhope to see a developer to try this and i would help in any way possible also htc has released open source sdk(if it helps lol)
Link to a website that shows its possible :
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/install-meego-on-nexus-one-htc-desire-and-dell-streak/
Think you may be in for a major flaming...brace yourself
But I'd say no, to answer your question, and I'd have to respond with why??
EddyOS said:
Think you may be in for a major flaming...brace yourself
But I'd say no, to answer your question, and I'd have to respond with why??
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haha good answere, my answere is to see something new, e.g miui > too iphonish , Cm7> stock Aosp, Htc sense roms> tweaks to stock sense etc... meego> something new and interesting
I'd say it's possible...MeeGo is indeed based on Linux and is open source...I'll see if I can get anything going when I get home from holidays
To post #2: MeeGo is actually really good...or at least Nokia's version is. When Nokia first announced the N9, I dreamt of a 4.3 dual core MeeGo phone...if MeeGo could be ported to the Sensation, that would be fantastic!
This would be great. Something else to toy around with and meego definately has potential, just that not as many hardware companies have jumped on board compared to android
I would also like to see meeGo. meeGo is interesting and I would to play with it without buying a new phone.
@EddyOS,
If he had mentioned porting and TouchWiz in the same sentence (uh oh I just did) then yeah he'll probably be in for major flaming.
lilhugo
EddyOS said:
Think you may be in for a major flaming...brace yourself
But I'd say no, to answer your question, and I'd have to respond with why??
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That's what's going around here now, the slogan of this board before 'prepare for flaming' became fashionable was 'because we can'
Anyway, +1 to see meego running on our phones, I'd love to check it out
I think it will be much more feasible after the n9 is released
Lol wow
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I'm new to roms, usually work on kernels, but ill give it a shot
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Flippy125 said:
I'm new to roms, usually work on kernels, but ill give it a shot
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redbullcat said:
I'd say it's possible...MeeGo is indeed based on Linux and is open source...I'll see if I can get anything going when I get home from holidays
To post #2: MeeGo is actually really good...or at least Nokia's version is. When Nokia first announced the N9, I dreamt of a 4.3 dual core MeeGo phone...if MeeGo could be ported to the Sensation, that would be fantastic!
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Thank you we have a rom developer and a kernel developer if you guys need any help i am more than willing to help you guys in any way i can! Please note that i am not a developer but i know whats what soo im not a noob asking for stuff lol
lilhugo said:
I would also like to see meeGo. meeGo is interesting and I would to play with it without buying a new phone.
@EddyOS,
If he had mentioned porting and TouchWiz in the same sentence (uh oh I just did) then yeah he'll probably be in for major flaming.
lilhugo
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haha im not really interested in touch wiz since i had a galaxy s and could have bought the galaxy s2 for cheaper on contract than the sensation
i know that this is an older thread but is there working anyone on this?
it would be great if meego could ported to the sensation!
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i know that this is an older thread but is there working anyone on this?
it would be great if meego could ported to the sensation!
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+1 I see some are porting meego to other HTC devices and I would be interested in running it on my sensation.
Any takers?
Another +1. It looks great on the N8

[Q] Android on 8X

Is it possible to dual boot Android on 8X?
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would it be possible in the future?
HeartKiller said:
Is it possible to dual boot Android on 8X?
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No.
Well there is a developer device of the x8 and a dump of it with source tree out I can see alpha of Cmdr in the coming months
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No.
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I am looking to HTC 8X device to replace my HTC HD2.
HD2 was legendary dual booting device. I just wondering if HTC 8X would have similar dual boot capabilities.
No clue but if we can figure out how to crack the internals the One XL and Droid DNA will be the devices that we can use for kernels and ROMs to some extent.
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Job
Hunt3r.j2 said:
No clue but if we can figure out how to crack the internals the One XL and Droid DNA will be the devices that we can use for kernels and ROMs to some extent.
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Doesn't really work like that... you have to build a hybrid kernel from the ground up with the engineering unit and they specs are totally diffrent on all the devices you listed
Who is this we
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We is the developers in this forum.
The 8X is kind of different but kind of not different. The audio subsystem is shared with the Droid DNA, as is the front and rear camera (most likely), and the Evita/One XL shares the same display resolution and same SoC and such, so those two devices will likely provide everything needed for a hybrid kernel that will run Android on this device.
The problem is actually getting the firmware to load that kernel. From what little I understand about the WPx devices, there's a TPM module inside that needs to be side-stepped and the bootloader system is different from the Android variants, which makes life a lot harder.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
No clue but if we can figure out how to crack the internals the One XL and Droid DNA will be the devices that we can use for kernels and ROMs to some extent.
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Just find out about Droid DNA this week, this device is amazing and looking much better than 8X
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Is it possible to dual boot Android on 8X?
UPDATE:
would it be possible in the future?
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HeartKiller said:
Just find out about Droid DNA this week, this device is amazing and looking much better than 8X
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2 very different phone,s.
And if you want android, dont even look at WP8.
No offense, just my mind speaking at loud.
8X is a beauty and i would never put android on it.
And last but not least......HD2 is a whole different ball game.
Thats just a monster phone that left out a lot of phone in it shadows.
That will take some phone to beat and i dont see that coming soon.
Greetz.
close this thread immediately !!!
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close this thread immediately !!!
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Hey! What's your problem? Your not the boss of XDA, so you shouldn't be telling us to remove a development thread. If your going to be like that, go away. XDA is MEANT to be a development site so this thread is perfectly relevant.
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close this thread immediately !!!
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got some childhood issues you want to talk about mate?
/h2
phly95 said:
Hey! What's your problem? Your not the boss of XDA, so you shouldn't be telling us to remove a development thread. If your going to be like that, go away. XDA is MEANT to be a development site so this thread is perfectly relevant.
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got some childhood issues you want to talk about mate?
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+1
well said!
because if you wanted a Android device, you should of just gotten one...
Well friends I have read on many forms that if anybody wants android then they should buy android device, & those want windows phone should buy a windows device, BUT LET ME TELL THE NEW SMARTPHONE members,
" its not stupid to ask for dual OS on a newer device, most of us have our PC with dual OS whether win95se & win98se, or windows Me & win XP or vista or XP & win7, and Linux" so it should be promoted at an open resourse like xda forum, rather than asking to buy particular is device, its just matter of interest for experienced developers to work for these multiple OS. On one device,
I can just say a tag from one of our famous xda developers 'BePE' " ITS Our device & we are the one to decide what we wish to run on our purchased devices, we paid a handsome money to buy these devices, &its not Microsoft or apple or google or Nokia or etc to lock up our options just in the name of security and putting so many locks(developer lock, root lock, interop unlock) its a free world
For those who think its absurd I will just say that (HTC magician &ppc2k)
I Have seen happen from early devices, right from k-jam to jasjam to to JasJar(aka universal) to HTC tytn to HTC diamond to HTC topaz to HTC Blackstone & finally to the legendary HTC hd2 every user who believes that user is the person who decides what he wants to run on the device, as they pay a handsome amount to buy the devices

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