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Multitouch in Hero

HTC has announced that Hero will include multitouch support. Since much of their Sense UI is hacked onto Android, this makes me wonder:
Are they exposing an actual multitouch API for Android developers, or are they overloading an unused property (e.g. MotionEvent.size) like Luke Hatch's homebrew multitouch does?

idk
but whatever htc did ..it looks awsome..the ui on hero when its full speed is soo stunning and the mutlitouch is so smooth

Is "full speed" acheivable on a Magic?

Do you guys think its possible to port the rom over to magic? and get the upgraded UI?
Thanks

there is a port
from nk02 but its a little buggy and alot of the features are missing but htc said theyre gonna make the updates available to htc devices running android..so if you plan on getting that samsung youre sol if you want rosie..that is until the brilliant minds here port it

bluekieran said:
Is "full speed" acheivable on a Magic?
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Since they are exactly the same thing save for the shape of the case, yes.

lbcoder said:
Since they are exactly the same thing save for the shape of the case, yes.
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Some magics (vodafone branded ones) have less RAM than the hero.
HTC's CEO stated that they're going to slap the sense UI on an existing HTC, which will probably be the sapphire

actually if you flash the nk02 hero rom
it has multitouch

HTC has announced that the sense UI WON'T be avaliable to t-mobile and vodafone users since the whole google issue they have, they didnt say anything about the "other" htc branded phones like rogers but m assuming updates will be avaliable to those.

k4r1m said:
HTC has announced that the sense UI WON'T be avaliable to t-mobile and vodafone users since the whole google issue they have, they didnt say anything about the "other" htc branded phones like rogers but m assuming updates will be avaliable to those.
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Once the Hero is out, we'll have it on our device.. no needs to wait for "official" HTC releases for the Google's branded phones, this is XDA-developers!

I cant help but feel that I have been somewhat cheated by Vodafone for the less ram issue, they pulled a fast one on us. If this is what stands between me and the new Sense UI, then i can tell you that we have not only been robbed by Vodafone but by HTC as well. With the money I spent on this phone, the new Ui is the least they can do.
avimak said:
Once the Hero is out, we'll have it on our device.. no needs to wait for "official" HTC releases for the Google's branded phones, this is XDA-developers!
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Thats what i like to hear. I cant wait until this day comes to try it out.

Not a single one of these replies has been relevant or on-topic.

nobody knows
what they did

Tmobile Fender mt3g info

Ok so i have some dirty time with the new fender mt3g.
heres what i pulled off it so far
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23.02
OCT 21 2009,22:33:27
Baseband Version- 62.50sc.20.1U_.2.22.23.02
Kernel Version- 2.6.29-g023e5c9
[email protected] #3
Build number 2.08.531.1 CL89293 release keys

nice..a 32A set..i assume this will be bumped to 2.1 or 2.0.1 by t-mo in a few months. this way we all can upgrade to android 2.x without having sense ui..i like this..

does this run the sense ui?
I notice it runs donut, an official donut+sense would be awesome.

insanecon said:
does this run the sense ui?
I notice it runs donut, an official donut+sense would be awesome.
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no sense ui. This is basically an upgraded MT3G. So it is still a google experiance phone, therefore no HTC customizations on it.
which is even better

the only thing that is upgraded is the new 3.5 headphone jack and the paint...other than that, same freaking phone.

oshizzle1991 said:
the only thing that is upgraded is the new 3.5 headphone jack and the paint...other than that, same freaking phone.
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Well for us in the us its a little different. More ram and more onboard memory. Also comes with a snazzy 16gb card. Class 2 though.
I have to give it back today. So is there anything anybody needs off this bad boy?

Did you notice if it had a different music player???
Like you pointed out this myTouch has the 32A board vs. the 32B board in the other myTouch devices and therefore has more memory on-board in addition to the 16GB microSD card and 3.5mm jack.
It also comes preloaded with more music.
I think T-Mobile would be in a strange situation should the Fender myTouch get the 2.1 upgrade and the regular myTouch not get it. People will complain either way I guess until finally you must leave behind the old at some point and cut off upgrades.

Yeah it has a new music player and a bunch of fender sponsored music.

insanecon said:
does this run the sense ui?
I notice it runs donut, an official donut+sense would be awesome.
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It might not have Sense UI.
But once the devs here get their hands on the Rogers HTC Magic dump of Android 2.1 + Sense UI you will be able to load it up onto this phone.
With a bit of work I'm assuming since it will probably be shipped with a perfected SPL (I'm guessing 0013 is a perfected SPL)
str4vag said:
no sense ui. This is basically an upgraded MT3G. So it is still a google experiance phone, therefore no HTC customizations on it.
which is even better
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How is it better? =[ Sense UI is awesome!

Would the gold card method work to root this sucker? I think the "1.2" mytouch will have this hardware, so there should be a few of these floating around. would existing roms work on this or would they slight modification to work with different hardware (3.5mm headset Jack)?

music player
does somebody have the music player from the fender mt3g?

The fender mytouch music player app looks just like RockOn.
RockOn is open source so they just might have played with it...
At least it's inspired by RockOn music player

Thanks for the info. I will try it.

Its the HTC music app, possibly the same one on heros?

So this is a 32A with 288MB of RAM, and a 2.22 Radio version...
Does anyone if it's possiblve to get the radio.img from this device?
Reason I'm asking is that I think that if this radio could be used on a 32A, then it would allow the entire 288MB of RAM to be presented to the OS and still run 32B(ish) ROMs...
Any information would be great.
Thanks,

cursordroid said:
So this is a 32A with 288MB of RAM, and a 2.22 Radio version...
Does anyone if it's possiblve to get the radio.img from this device?
Reason I'm asking is that I think that if this radio could be used on a 32A, then it would allow the entire 288MB of RAM to be presented to the OS and still run 32B(ish) ROMs...
Any information would be great.
Thanks,
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the fender ver from tmobile is a 32A not 32B?

Ace42 said:
the fender ver from tmobile is a 32A not 32B?
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Yep, 32A indeed

mayormullet said:
Yep, 32A indeed
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Thats so dumb of tmo to make the MT3G have 192 while Fender has 288..I would feel cheated if i got the Mt3G with less ram. But average consumer wouldnt know the diff.

That is B.S.

So HTC shouldn't make improvements to their hardware because early adopters might be upset? I don't get that rationale. Isn't that the way the technology ball rolls?
Anyhow, let's get back to rooting this sucker (also keep in mind future MT3G/Magic will likely have the same hardware, minus the guitar shell and preloaded music apps).
I wonder if an engineering SPL (1.33.2005+) would work? Would current 32A roms jive ok with the different radio this thing has? Safe to assume ROMs would need some modifications to accommodate the 3.5mm headset jack?

new sense

Since the droid just got the new sense would that make it easier for us to get it seeing as the are both CDMA

i just saw this on engadget
sense ui looks soooo nice on the droid's hi-res screen.

sgitt123 said:
Since the droid just got the new sense would that make it easier for us to get it seeing as the are both CDMA
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There is a chance that it will be the new Sense on the Android 2.2 upgrade due "in early 2Q 2010" but Sprnt is being tight-lipped. So who knows?

mjb5406 said:
There is a chance that it will be the new Sense on the Android 2.2 upgrade due "in early 2Q 2010" but Sprnt is being tight-lipped. So who knows?
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It is the sense we will get with 2.1 HTC already said that the new sense will go to all hero line phones I ment to port it!

I'm mad now the was basically left in the dust the day it came out . We were special with Sense UI, but now we are not .

Please say we can use this yo option!!!

I REALLY HOPE THIS CAN BE PORTED http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050106

What exactly is this?....Never mind! But that sounds like a good idea...

What says the Almighty Faux?
We humbly await the masters opinion.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

a kernel -.- we have plenty bro

808prettyboy808 said:
What exactly is this?
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It's a hacked kernel from Desire S made to work with Desire HD. I have my own hacked version of Desire S kernel a few weeks ago already (just ask Option94, I had him test it for me briefly), I don't have a spare phone to test it on (I can't test on my own phone, my only line to the outside world). Even if my own version had worked, we still have an issue with full compatibility with Sense 2.1.
Desire HD had a 2.1 GB Sense leak, so they could leach the USER SPACE drivers from the leak but they were missing the matching kernel. Now with this kernel hack, they have BOTH the Kernel space driver and user space driver to properly make Sense 2.1 work on their phone.
Problem with our phone is the T-Mobile's MySense.... We are totally screwed by this. We are MISSING both the Kernel and User space drivers (and we will NOT have any leak to leach from except the official GB release for our phone ) Even when GB version of MySense is out, we will still have funny compatibility issues when trying to run ported GB pure Sense 2.1 on our phone. We will NEVER have 100% working pure Sense anything on our phone
That's why when Sensation is out, I am moving to that phone, it has pure Sense on it...

alfadog77 said:
a kernel -.- we have plenty bro
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It's for 2.1 sense
Sent from my royal glacier v1.3

Yea.. ill definitely be on the sensation bandwagon as well. That phone looks awesome.
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Oh, I just remembered about some rumor that a Canadian provider is getting Glacier clone but with PURE GB SENSE on it.... If the rumor is true, that will be the only salvation for our phone to run 100% compatible pure sense on it... I hope it's true, but I am not sure how reliable the rumor is...

faux123 said:
Problem with our phone is the T-Mobile's MySense.... We are totally screwed by this. We are MISSING both the Kernel and User space drivers (and we will NOT have any leak to leach from except the official GB release for our phone ) Even when GB version of MySense is out, we will still have funny compatibility issues when trying to run ported GB pure Sense 2.1 on our phone. We will NEVER have 100% working pure Sense anything on our phone
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Well, that sucks. I thought that when the GB OTA update for the MT4G came out, that we'd have all we need when it comes to kernel development.
What about Canada's Emerald? It's the same phone as the MT4G, and is supposed to come out with Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 (REAL Sense). Wouldn't that help us?

Urrrrrrrrrrrrr #[email protected]?%$ T-Mobile and their stupid Mysense...sorry everyone i really thought this would've been the answer to all our Gingersense prayers

TeeJay3800 said:
What about Canada's Emerald? It's the same phone as the MT4G, and is supposed to come out with Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 (REAL Sense). Wouldn't that help us?
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That's actually what faux is talking about in regards to the rumors, so yeah it is true that Canada is getting an MT4G with Gingerbread out of the box. T-Mobile fail?
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/04/11/mobilicity-to-bring-on-the-htc-emerald-mid-may/
And I'd have to agree, I love my MT4G but the Sensation is where it's at. I'm just hoping that the bootloader isn't going to be locked or I'll be picking up the G2X instead.

Problem is most of will probably move to the sensation the HTC emerald comes out in june. We will most likely get a dumped in mid-may. If the rumors are true.
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Killbynature said:
Problem is most of will probably move to the sensation the HTC emerald comes out in june. We will most likely get a dumped in mid-may. If the rumors are true.
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I wouldn't say most. Phones are expensive and anyone with a MT4G has only had it for 5 months at the most. I would like the Sensation, but having spent $450 on the MT4G in early November, spending another nearly $500 just a few months later isn't something I'll be doing.

TeeJay3800 said:
I wouldn't say most. Phones are expensive and anyone with a MT4G has only had it for 5 months at the most. I would like the Sensation, but having spent $450 on the MT4G in early November, spending another nearly $500 just a few months later isn't something I'll be doing.
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I'm going to sell this one most likely do the installment plan with my upgrade. Sensation probably be my last phone for awhile since I'm skipping quadcore. I have a g2x slightly lcd bleeding and a gslate. Both good devices but not something I'm interested in. When the iPhone 5 comes out Im buy two of them just to sell it on eBay for a ridiculous price.

The rumour is the HTC glacier will be released on Moblicity in Canada as a 2.3 pure sense device. It will be called the HTC emerald. I have only seen one article and it didn't look too promising, but I hope it's true!

Linky: http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/04/11/mobilicity-to-bring-on-the-htc-emerald-mid-may/

+1 for this! Keeping my fingers crossed..
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faux123 said:
It's a hacked kernel from Desire S made to work with Desire HD. I have my own hacked version of Desire S kernel a few weeks ago already (just ask Option94, I had him test it for me briefly), I don't have a spare phone to test it on (I can't test on my own phone, my only line to the outside world). Even if my own version had worked, we still have an issue with full compatibility with Sense 2.1.
Desire HD had a 2.1 GB Sense leak, so they could leach the USER SPACE drivers from the leak but they were missing the matching kernel. Now with this kernel hack, they have BOTH the Kernel space driver and user space driver to properly make Sense 2.1 work on their phone.
Problem with our phone is the T-Mobile's MySense.... We are totally screwed by this. We are MISSING both the Kernel and User space drivers (and we will NOT have any leak to leach from except the official GB release for our phone ) Even when GB version of MySense is out, we will still have funny compatibility issues when trying to run ported GB pure Sense 2.1 on our phone. We will NEVER have 100% working pure Sense anything on our phone
That's why when Sensation is out, I am moving to that phone, it has pure Sense on it...
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Im waiting for the sensation also...I heard that g2x does not support att quadband...Im hope the sensation will...

808prettyboy808 said:
Im waiting for the sensation also...I heard that g2x does not support att quadband...Im hope the sensation will...
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Thing is it might be there if we get a at&t radio and a different base band. Tmobile is ran as an independent company. Till the merger goes through or till it doesn't. Never said it did support the bands on at&t but it was advertise on the box.

T-mobile already admited that if the merger goes through the g2x will not be able to run on at&t network...check it out at tmonews.com...

Ginger Bread doesn't necessarily mean Sense 3.0

Ginger Bread doesn't necessarily mean Sense 3.0
I think people are seeing sense 3.0 and confusing it with GB 2.3.4
Most likely won't be in the OEM GB release
possibly an addon ??
but you will most likely have to root to get any Sense 3.0 features.

The GB update has sense 2.1. HTC made it pretty clear they are not going to update existing phones to sense 3.0.
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JBO1018 said:
The GB update has sense 2.1. HTC made it pretty clear they are not going to update existing phones to sense 3.0.
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Good thing we have developers who will port it over

for real shawn...i love sense...my fone runs just as fast with it as w/ out it....and the new sense stuff really is nice...my iphone friend was looking at the lock screen and he goes this is some crazy ****...then i looked at my friends nexus s and i was just like yeah it is pretty crazy and you won't see it on anyone else tb unless they did what i did hahaha

Yeah , running 3.0 on my Inc and the messaging apps are outstanding. The 3D home screen is wild also.
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