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Cooking Help

Since all of you have made it so easy to understand the basics, I'm trying to cook!
I'm using the latest official Tilt ROM posted here, but I'd like to import the latest CE OS version from a different ROM. I don't even know if this is possible, but I figure someone would know how if it is.
If I extract the base ROM and the ROM with the target CE OS, how would I go about importing this OS into the Base ROM?

Someone at least tell me shut up Newb and read or point me in the direction I need to go. I've looked and the only thing I can find is some references to XIP being difficult to port.
Is this where the main operating system of the device is stored?

Anyone willing to help?

BulldogXTRM said:
Anyone willing to help?
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I think you just asked the single hardest question about cooking. The answer is there's no "simple" easy way to do it. Most of the files you're looking for will reside in the SYS\OS* folders. The really good news is that as long as you keep the OEM\OEMDrivers folder alone you can port pretty much anything you want from a similar device (Hermes, Polaris, Wizard, etc) and it should work on the Kaiser.
But it is *truly* a VERY slow process to port enough to make things work without porting so much you break it again. And when you have a ROM that won't even boot its a ROYAL PAIN to track down which of dozens of changes you might have made between compiles/flashes is causing the problem. In my experience it's usually something really simple like extra characters in initflashfiles.dat (from editing in Notepad), or some registry setting gone awry.
Anyway, good luck to you!

Is it at all possible to merge multiple cab files to create a single cab?

What I am interested in doing is taking multiple cab files and then merging them into a single cab file so rather than having to install multiple theme tabs i could just install a single file which would make the whole process simpler after a hard reset to get all my things reinstalled.
I'm a bit of a noob and have searched through the forum but havent really found a noob's walkthrough although i have found usefull posts they arent exactly what i'm looking for, i'm sure other members would find this really usefull too if its at all possible.
It could also be helpful for installing multiple applications at a time.
I appreciate that people dont have the time to sit and talk me through the whole process but any information you could give would really be appreciated.
I've attached the files that i would be interested in merging. I'm not looking for anyone to do the work for me i'm just interested in any knowledge of the process that you may have to offer.
Thx
Alex

Doobee24 said:
What I am interested in doing is taking multiple cab files and then merging them into a single cab file so rather than having to install multiple theme tabs i could just install a single file which would make the whole process simpler after a hard reset to get all my things reinstalled.
I'm a bit of a noob and have searched through the forum but havent really found a noob's walkthrough although i have found usefull posts they arent exactly what i'm looking for, i'm sure other members would find this really usefull too if its at all possible.
It could also be helpful for installing multiple applications at a time.
I appreciate that people dont have the time to sit and talk me through the whole process but any information you could give would really be appreciated.
I've attached the files that i would be interested in merging. I'm not looking for anyone to do the work for me i'm just interested in any knowledge of the process that you may have to offer.
Thx
Alex
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Simplest and easiest thing to do is to use UC to install all these cabs automated style when the ROM boots up. I am assuming you are using a ROM which is UC compliant (all the official ones arent.....the cooked ROMs are mostly UC compliant though).

The 'hard' way is analyzing the cab's -> extracting files/reg-entries -> rebuilding the cab-files to one cab.
Theoritically it's possible with a program like WinCE Cabmanager but it is a hell of job I think.
I would go for the UC-option mentioned by MrVanx. I use it myself and it works like a threat (you have to get familiar with wap-provisioning and stuff but it's worth the journey)

Ive tried using a few of the cooked roms over the past couple of weeks but to be honest they dont work all that well for me, none of them seem to work with msn (which is something i use all the time) i always get error messages saying that it cant find a data connection even through wifi which is always setup properly as i can search the net quite easily and have verified that the wifi is working and searched through the rom threads for fix's and all ive seen so far is that this seems to be a bit of a problem for a number of users, some fixes work for certain members but it doesnt for others, unfortunatly i'm one of the others.
Currently using Vodafone UK 1.90.161.5 stock rom.
I think the WinCE Cabmanager approach mite be the best option for me as i'm still a bit of a noob with regards to things and as most of the cabs i'm interested in merging are simple theme cabs so it shouldnt be that much of a task (gulps)
Are there any good tutorials that i could use for WinCE Cabmanager?
I'll have a search myself to see what i can come up with but in the past i've found it quite hard to find things in the forum and most of the time i stumble across certain "gems" by following links in peoples signatures.
Thanks for the info its much appreciated.
Alex

Over on the Kaiser section there was a user named bengalih, who made an automated installer called Sashimi. Although Bengalih has been banned, his work is still floating around. Check out this thread, or do a search for Sashimi. In theory, it should work for the Raphael, since it is still a Win Mobile device. Hope that helps. I might add, that right before Bengalih was banned, he stripped his Sashimi guides from his posts on xda, but they are available here.

This does look like the type of thing i am looking for unfortunately all his posts are just "..........................." but i regged on the other site and got the software so i'm going to go check it out and see how it works. Thanks for that
Alex

Just a quick question but does your mobile connection (Vodafone UK) allow you to use msn (or to that matter any IM program) or is it just http stuff only?
Tmobile wnw doesnt allow IM software over the data connection unless you use wnw+ so i wonder if this is the case with vodfone aswell?

Yeah it does, it also allows me to use skype too. Unfortunalty its the only ROM that does allow me to use msn although i havent tested skype as this is my secondary IM app.
In theory to make a theme (cab) i tried to extract files from a few cabs, files including:
1AA884~1.004
1BBFDC~1.001
1E29E8~1.005
4E6705~1.002
5A7AE8~1.015
5B86C9~1.016
5C27FF~1.017
etc
Then i used "QuickCab 1.0" to add all the extracted files from a couple of cab files, i directed QuickCab 1.0 to install the files to the Windows directory and the process made the new cab file with no problems however i tried to install the cab file that it had created but my TF3D didnt change at all even after a restart.
I'm trying to merge NoTopCurtain.cab-NoCurtains.cab-GlassClock_v1.cab-Pamas Transparant Slider.CAB & NeonIcon.cab
By looking at the xml file it looked like all the 90 files should be installed to the Windows directory.
Any idea of what i am doing wrong?
Thx
Alex

try cabmanager. You will see the actual files. And there is very logical registry structure.
I do not have a tutorial for the program but it's not that hard. You can export files (right mouse click) and reg-entries (under 'file'). Put those all together (import of reg-entries is also possible!) Adding files gives you a simple window with where to put the files on your ppc.
It is not that hard and you will be in control of the proces instead of working with the encrypted files you are doing now...
made dozens of (working) cab's this way myself and I'm no einstein!
Good luck

@merten3000 thanks for that for the next 30 days i can make working cabs, i initially seen your post and checked the program but noticed it was only a 30 day trial so i never bothered then with your last post when u mentioned "encrypted" files that sort of made sense when i originally seen the file names of the files i was extracting where as they are now extracting properly and i created a working cab, thanks very much.
Dont suppose you know of a free program that will do the same job? Money is tight and cant justify buying this app.
Alex

The simplest thing to do, for me, would be to take the stock rom that you like, extract and recook it making only the changes needed to make it UC compliant.
That way you get your rom just as it was, and can run all your cabs. Shouldn't be much work either. (well, it wouldnt be on the Kaiser - not used Raphael kitchens etc, but assume it is relatively easy)

OsKitchen support for Herald

Hi friends !
I'm usually trying to cook for my Kaiser, using OsKitchen. I could obtain 3 or 4 flashable ROMs -lots of disaster ROMs too- and now I'm trying to obtain a "decent" ROM with everything well located.
Then, I tried (I like Thahny25's ROMs made in Ivan's kitchen but I'ld like to create my own ROM and share it) to use Ivan's SuperJustKitchen, but it seems too difficult for me; also, thus I must spend more space in my Hard Disk as I can't have no shared folders with OsKitchen to cook for Herald/Wing and Kaiser.
So, I wondered to include Herald's files into Oskitchen structure. But as you maybe read on other places, I'm not an expert in this, but on building, landscape and environment (and this is too far from coding, programming, etc.).
Maybe some of you could use OsKitchen to cook for Herald/Wing. Or maybe some of you know "where to place" every file from Ivan's kitchen into OndraSter's one. This is what I'm asking to any charitative aim who can explain this.
Yes, I know I could ask OndraSter but I think he's busy on other things and also he does not know Herald's world but Kaiser's one.
TYhank you and forgive me the inconvenience, if such considered.

I was working on helping the developer port OsKitchen to the Wing earlier, but he got too busy.
It's an incredible kitchen, and I'm sure he'd help you port it to the Wing for us. It's the best kitchen I've ever seen!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4854633

Well, Ivan/Ervius/Bepe kitchen is amazing, but for my degree of expertise, OndraSter's one is better for me.
@ace....
Yes, I remember you wrote something there. Now we must "only" put the files in the correct folders, but I'm trying to take the files from Ivan's structure into OndraSter's new one and I'm missing. Then, it's supposed the kitchen works for any device we want.

afn691 said:
Well, Ivan/Ervius/Bepe kitchen is amazing, but for my degree of expertise, OndraSter's one is better for me.
@ace....
Yes, I remember you wrote something there. Now we must "only" put the files in the correct folders, but I'm trying to take the files from Ivan's structure into OndraSter's new one and I'm missing. Then, it's supposed the kitchen works for any device we want.
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I guess I might be able to look into it again tonight. I'll see.

What is a "ROM" and "Kitchen"

I have been playing around loading a few different ROM's on my Fuze. RUn into a few problems so dump to a new one and so forth. I really want to settle on one so I have been looking thru the forums and noticed a few new builds out like 28008 and so forth. But I saw a post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580429
that says they have build 28008 with Kitchen for Fuze or just the ROM 28008. What is the differance in getting a kitchen or just the ROM?

sherpa1d said:
I have been playing around loading a few different ROM's on my Fuze. RUn into a few problems so dump to a new one and so forth. I really want to settle on one so I have been looking thru the forums and noticed a few new builds out like 28008 and so forth. But I saw a post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580429
that says they have build 28008 with Kitchen for Fuze or just the ROM 28008. What is the differance in getting a kitchen or just the ROM?
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"Rom" Stands for read only memory, in this contex basically it just means its the os and any packaged software this is stored on the devices Rom, hence its name a kitchen is a piece of software that you run on your pc, it basically lets you design your own rom, picking from diffrent builds and sys's and also choosing what default programs are included, it is easy to cook your own rom in a kitchen but very hard to make a good one unless you know wot your doing

So by him saying they have the bear 28008 ROM, that means I could install it and that would have the phone OS only with no other extras included. So in theory I could load that ROM on my phone then install the few programs I've collected and it will be just like I want?

People who cook roms are called chefs, good chefs release there roms in the rom developent section, these are mostly of high quality often including things that you cannot get in the stock roms, there are diffrent kinds of roms you should read the descriptions of each one, some of them are called lite or vanilla roms these wont include much but the os, leaving you lots of scope to customise the rom the way you want, others like the energyrom series include lots and lots of extras and a highly customised UI meaning little work is needed to get everything up and running, its just personal opinion what you like

Cool, Thanks a bunch!

Yes just like that, just want to share some definition types of ROM, theres stock, it was an official ROM released by microsoft or correlated vendor, second one was cooked ROM, it was unofficial made ROM, created with kitchen as my pal said above. Cooked ROM tend to be faster, since some uneeded application or package were deleted and to increase performance there are several patching/hack.
Next, some cookers define lite ROM, it was cooked ROM created with almost no 3rd party application installed unless the cookers wants to put a little. Otherwise there's standard ROM one, cookers puts complete applications as he/she likes.

How to?

Hi very new here and love it so far, but I am curious how you make your own theme? I see other peoples themes and they look great, but I would love to be able and try to make my own theme(s). I did a google search to no prevail so any help greatly appreciated.

For the most part, alot of the things you'd be changing are (from what I remember) .png files (or some form of 'picture' file). I believe there is a program which helps in getting alot of the files (I believe majority of them are in the windows folder) and helps managing them. Once you change them you put them back in the phone (or you can make a cab).
I hope what I said isn't too wrong (this was the process for making your own taskbar icons, so I'm basing a lot on that; hopefully I'm not steering you in the wrong direction, and if I am, hopefully someone will correct me sooner rather than later).
Good luck on your theme!