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Since all of you have made it so easy to understand the basics, I'm trying to cook!
I'm using the latest official Tilt ROM posted here, but I'd like to import the latest CE OS version from a different ROM. I don't even know if this is possible, but I figure someone would know how if it is.
If I extract the base ROM and the ROM with the target CE OS, how would I go about importing this OS into the Base ROM?
Someone at least tell me shut up Newb and read or point me in the direction I need to go. I've looked and the only thing I can find is some references to XIP being difficult to port.
Is this where the main operating system of the device is stored?
Anyone willing to help?
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Anyone willing to help?
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I think you just asked the single hardest question about cooking. The answer is there's no "simple" easy way to do it. Most of the files you're looking for will reside in the SYS\OS* folders. The really good news is that as long as you keep the OEM\OEMDrivers folder alone you can port pretty much anything you want from a similar device (Hermes, Polaris, Wizard, etc) and it should work on the Kaiser.
But it is *truly* a VERY slow process to port enough to make things work without porting so much you break it again. And when you have a ROM that won't even boot its a ROYAL PAIN to track down which of dozens of changes you might have made between compiles/flashes is causing the problem. In my experience it's usually something really simple like extra characters in initflashfiles.dat (from editing in Notepad), or some registry setting gone awry.
Anyway, good luck to you!
What I am interested in doing is taking multiple cab files and then merging them into a single cab file so rather than having to install multiple theme tabs i could just install a single file which would make the whole process simpler after a hard reset to get all my things reinstalled.
I'm a bit of a noob and have searched through the forum but havent really found a noob's walkthrough although i have found usefull posts they arent exactly what i'm looking for, i'm sure other members would find this really usefull too if its at all possible.
It could also be helpful for installing multiple applications at a time.
I appreciate that people dont have the time to sit and talk me through the whole process but any information you could give would really be appreciated.
I've attached the files that i would be interested in merging. I'm not looking for anyone to do the work for me i'm just interested in any knowledge of the process that you may have to offer.
Thx
Alex
Doobee24 said:
What I am interested in doing is taking multiple cab files and then merging them into a single cab file so rather than having to install multiple theme tabs i could just install a single file which would make the whole process simpler after a hard reset to get all my things reinstalled.
I'm a bit of a noob and have searched through the forum but havent really found a noob's walkthrough although i have found usefull posts they arent exactly what i'm looking for, i'm sure other members would find this really usefull too if its at all possible.
It could also be helpful for installing multiple applications at a time.
I appreciate that people dont have the time to sit and talk me through the whole process but any information you could give would really be appreciated.
I've attached the files that i would be interested in merging. I'm not looking for anyone to do the work for me i'm just interested in any knowledge of the process that you may have to offer.
Thx
Alex
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Simplest and easiest thing to do is to use UC to install all these cabs automated style when the ROM boots up. I am assuming you are using a ROM which is UC compliant (all the official ones arent.....the cooked ROMs are mostly UC compliant though).
The 'hard' way is analyzing the cab's -> extracting files/reg-entries -> rebuilding the cab-files to one cab.
Theoritically it's possible with a program like WinCE Cabmanager but it is a hell of job I think.
I would go for the UC-option mentioned by MrVanx. I use it myself and it works like a threat (you have to get familiar with wap-provisioning and stuff but it's worth the journey)
Ive tried using a few of the cooked roms over the past couple of weeks but to be honest they dont work all that well for me, none of them seem to work with msn (which is something i use all the time) i always get error messages saying that it cant find a data connection even through wifi which is always setup properly as i can search the net quite easily and have verified that the wifi is working and searched through the rom threads for fix's and all ive seen so far is that this seems to be a bit of a problem for a number of users, some fixes work for certain members but it doesnt for others, unfortunatly i'm one of the others.
Currently using Vodafone UK 1.90.161.5 stock rom.
I think the WinCE Cabmanager approach mite be the best option for me as i'm still a bit of a noob with regards to things and as most of the cabs i'm interested in merging are simple theme cabs so it shouldnt be that much of a task (gulps)
Are there any good tutorials that i could use for WinCE Cabmanager?
I'll have a search myself to see what i can come up with but in the past i've found it quite hard to find things in the forum and most of the time i stumble across certain "gems" by following links in peoples signatures.
Thanks for the info its much appreciated.
Alex
Over on the Kaiser section there was a user named bengalih, who made an automated installer called Sashimi. Although Bengalih has been banned, his work is still floating around. Check out this thread, or do a search for Sashimi. In theory, it should work for the Raphael, since it is still a Win Mobile device. Hope that helps. I might add, that right before Bengalih was banned, he stripped his Sashimi guides from his posts on xda, but they are available here.
This does look like the type of thing i am looking for unfortunately all his posts are just "..........................." but i regged on the other site and got the software so i'm going to go check it out and see how it works. Thanks for that
Alex
Just a quick question but does your mobile connection (Vodafone UK) allow you to use msn (or to that matter any IM program) or is it just http stuff only?
Tmobile wnw doesnt allow IM software over the data connection unless you use wnw+ so i wonder if this is the case with vodfone aswell?
Yeah it does, it also allows me to use skype too. Unfortunalty its the only ROM that does allow me to use msn although i havent tested skype as this is my secondary IM app.
In theory to make a theme (cab) i tried to extract files from a few cabs, files including:
1AA884~1.004
1BBFDC~1.001
1E29E8~1.005
4E6705~1.002
5A7AE8~1.015
5B86C9~1.016
5C27FF~1.017
etc
Then i used "QuickCab 1.0" to add all the extracted files from a couple of cab files, i directed QuickCab 1.0 to install the files to the Windows directory and the process made the new cab file with no problems however i tried to install the cab file that it had created but my TF3D didnt change at all even after a restart.
I'm trying to merge NoTopCurtain.cab-NoCurtains.cab-GlassClock_v1.cab-Pamas Transparant Slider.CAB & NeonIcon.cab
By looking at the xml file it looked like all the 90 files should be installed to the Windows directory.
Any idea of what i am doing wrong?
Thx
Alex
try cabmanager. You will see the actual files. And there is very logical registry structure.
I do not have a tutorial for the program but it's not that hard. You can export files (right mouse click) and reg-entries (under 'file'). Put those all together (import of reg-entries is also possible!) Adding files gives you a simple window with where to put the files on your ppc.
It is not that hard and you will be in control of the proces instead of working with the encrypted files you are doing now...
made dozens of (working) cab's this way myself and I'm no einstein!
Good luck
@merten3000 thanks for that for the next 30 days i can make working cabs, i initially seen your post and checked the program but noticed it was only a 30 day trial so i never bothered then with your last post when u mentioned "encrypted" files that sort of made sense when i originally seen the file names of the files i was extracting where as they are now extracting properly and i created a working cab, thanks very much.
Dont suppose you know of a free program that will do the same job? Money is tight and cant justify buying this app.
Alex
The simplest thing to do, for me, would be to take the stock rom that you like, extract and recook it making only the changes needed to make it UC compliant.
That way you get your rom just as it was, and can run all your cabs. Shouldn't be much work either. (well, it wouldnt be on the Kaiser - not used Raphael kitchens etc, but assume it is relatively easy)
Hi, I'm fairly new posting here, magical place that it is.
New user of a Fuze (already equipped with NATF's V4.0) and I'm having some trouble finding the default background that HTC uses for the touch pros/diamonds. I've checked through all of my system folders, the windows folder, documents.. Can't seem to find it. I've also searched the forums to see if I could find a png of it or a jpg, no luck. I assumed it would just be in \windows with all the rest of the system images.
Basically, I'm just wanting to customize that specific image a little bit. In that same vein, I was trying to figure out how to make your chosen background image carry over to all the TouchFlo3D tabs instead of just the home (or if I can even do this with the rom I'm using). I've seen a few threads on this specific topic, but a lot of them have varying information(also something about making the clock change incorrectly and network as t-mobile?). Just wanting to find out the best way to go about this,
I'd appreciate any help you guys could give. And also, forgive my ignorance if I'm posting this in the incorrect place or asking a stupid question, I didn't really see anywhere else for it to go.
Thanks!!
hey folks. i'm new to this rom cooking thing. i'm using the Kaiser Kitchen. I've loaded a base rom into the folder and run the Begin command prompt. now i'm stuck. i have no idea what OEM/SYS items i can get rid of and what i need to keep. i'm just trying to build an extremely lite rom that has manila 2d with the weather under the clock on the home screen. but i don't want to go and delete something that i need, so i'm not comfortable doing any editing just yet. can anyone give me a breakdown of what this stuff is? or even point me in the right direction if it's already posted (which it probably is, i'm just not sure what to search for)? i'd greatly appreciate it. i'm enjoying this rom cooking quite a bit, but, like i said, i'm pretty new to this. i've never taken any classes or anything, so i don't understand some of the terms/procedures used on this site, so please use layman's terms if you reply to me. again, i appreciate your taking the time to help me out, even if it's just a finger pointing me in the right direction.
Hope it doesn't take you too long to read.
first off what's your base ROM (the ROM that you downloaded and put inside the BaseROM folder) and then I could tell you what to get rid of. By the kaiser kitchen you mean the one from the wiki correct?
I'm going to need more info on how you are putting the weather on the home screen (e.g. CAB, Package. etc.) and your BaseROM to tell you accurately what to do.
as for adding in that weather package, first make sure the manila version you are using is 2.x or more. I would say don't make a package out of the CAB (if that's what you are using to put the weather display on the home page). Instead go into the OEM folder and look for the OperatorPKG folder. Enter the OperatorPKG folder and look for a file named "config_operator.txt" (without the quotes).
Mine looks like this:
LOCK:Enabled
TSK: \WINDOWS\Htc.tsk
CAB: \WINDOWS\AMfix.cab
XML: \WINDOWS\Menu_Operation.xml
CAB: \WINDOWS\fixyoutube.cab
CFG: \WINDOWS\config_PT.txt
I'm positive yours will look different. Pay attention to the "CAB: \WINDOWS\"insert CAB file name here"
What you are going to do is take that weather CAB for manila and put it in the OperatorPKG folder. Now go in the "config_operator.txt" and add this string:
CAB: \WINDOWS\"name of the cab file you just put in the OperatorPKG folder, INCLUDING the .cab extension (ex: M2Dhomeweather.cab)"
After cooking and flashing the ROM and setting up your device it will auto install that CAB and you should be set to go.
Now once you tell me the baseROM you are using I can tell you what is mostly junk in the OEM folders you have.
Also in case you are curious.
In the "config_operator.txt"
A "TSK" represents a theme and will make the device load a certain theme.
A "CAB" (obviously) represents a CAB file and will auto-install the CAB file.
A "CFG" represents the next config.txt file and tells the device to look at that config file next.. There are 4 total in all used for different purposes but they all do the same thing more or less. In the "config_operator.txt" ALWAYS make sure the
CFG: \WINDOWS\config_PT.txt
string goes last. It will skip anything else after itself if you do not have it as the last string.
P.S. - Always get an opinion from more than one person
Using the above process you will be using 2x the amount of space .cab & install
Also when things are cooked in they are faster accessible than via .cab install.
Regards removal of OEM/SYS a very good guide
Universal Tutorials for Customizing any Device and Cooking
Holds alot more valuable info than just what your after
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hey folks. i'm new to this rom cooking thing. i'm using the Kaiser Kitchen. I've loaded a base rom into the folder and run the Begin command prompt. now i'm stuck. i have no idea what OEM/SYS items i can get rid of and what i need to keep. i'm just trying to build an extremely lite rom that has manila 2d with the weather under the clock on the home screen. but i don't want to go and delete something that i need, so i'm not comfortable doing any editing just yet. can anyone give me a breakdown of what this stuff is? or even point me in the right direction if it's already posted (which it probably is, i'm just not sure what to search for)? i'd greatly appreciate it. i'm enjoying this rom cooking quite a bit, but, like i said, i'm pretty new to this. i've never taken any classes or anything, so i don't understand some of the terms/procedures used on this site, so please use layman's terms if you reply to me. again, i appreciate your taking the time to help me out, even if it's just a finger pointing me in the right direction.
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BTW, you are better off using visual kitchen.in that way you tick what u need and untick what you don't. If you find out that you needed it you simply tick it again...LOL!
kaiser:
well, first off, i'm using the HyperDragon IV as my base ROM. it's the only one i can find that actually has the weather on the home screen. i love the ROM, don't get me wrong, but it just has a lot of extra stuff in it that i don't need, and i'd like to have that storage space. this ROM actually has the home weather already built in. updates automatically according to the GPS (i'm assuming since it always displays the weather for the city i'm currently in). very handy for taking a quick look rather than having to press any buttons (i'm one of those "no phone while driving" people). however, when i add the Blue Galaxy theme to it, it changes the clock and takes away the home screen weather. i'm very new to this rom cooking business, ie: all i know is what i've either taught myself or looked up on XDA, so i have no idea how to make packages from cabs or anything like that. but reading above about where to put the cabs to auto install with the new rom doesn't seem too difficult. i can visualize it in my head (i spent QUITE A WHILE looking at those files yesterday! haha!). the HyperDragon IV rom is about 110 MB, and it moves a bit slow, but that is my ONLY complaint about it. i'd like to get to the point of being able to build a rom from scratch, but i think breaking one down and rebuilding it to my liking is a better starting point. i'm checking into taking some classes on it. i really enjoy working on my phone and i think if i had some formal training on it, it could be something that i LOVE to do. i just have no grasp of the technical jargin used, so sometimes i'll find a post pertaining to the topic i'm looking for, but i get lost in trying to understand some of them, you know? same thing with cars: i can work on them all day, but i have no idea what most of the parts are even called, much less what they do. i actually have 2 Tilts (my wife thought it was too complicated and got a different one), so i use one to practice on and check out new roms, and the other for everyday use. last night i installed the Hyperdragon IV rom on the extra and printed out the HTCHomeSettings file (with home screen weather) and printed the HTCHomeSettings file from my regular use phone (Blue Galaxy theme installed so no more home screen weather) and was getting ready to print them out and compare the differences between the two. just out of curiosity, would that have done me any good?
Off-hand question: NRH, is that North Richland Hills? if so, nice to see a fellow Texan! i live in Arlington, born and raised.
Stylez:
yeah, that's what i understand. phone operation is much quicker when software is built into the rom. thanks for the link. i was looking for something along those lines yesterday, just couldn't find it. i appreciate it. i've actually looked up A LOT of usefull info that you've posted on here, so thanks for the knowledge as well!
Staxx:
thank you, thank you, thank you sir! i actually posted a request last week for suggestions on a more beginner level user friendly kitchen, but got not a single response (last i checked). that's exactly what i was looking for: something where i can just check what i do and don't want. i was using PPCKitchen at first, but after cooking 3 roms that were just as big as HyperDragon IV (110+ MB) the program started giving me error messages. the frustrating part was that it wouldn't give me errors until it was almost done building the rom. that's quite a while to wait and quite a bit of time (by my standards) wasted to find out that the program isn't going to produce anything! so thanks for the suggestion. i'm going to go search for and download it right now.
To All:
thanks again for the help and advice. you guys are life savers! i can usually figure things out on my own. i like to think i'm smarter than the average bear. but sometimes i just need to be pointed in the right direction, or have things translated from technical jargin to layman's terms. i appreciate yall taking the time to help me and answer my questions. it's nice to see that there are still people in the world willing to help complete strangers. so thanks again guys! i'm sure i'll probably have more questions arise, so i'll probably be posting those as well. i try not to post anything that has already been answered, but sometimes i can seem to find exactly what i'm looking for, even if it is posted already. there is A LOT of info on XDA, but that's a good thing, or a GREAT thing i should say.
Kaiser:
by the way. i'm looking to cook a WM 6.1 ROM with:
blue galaxy theme, but with weather on the home screen, of course
bluetooth function
data connection auto config
manila 2d (dont need the customizer)
quick menu
quick gps
google maps
kaiser tweak
S2U2
BT enabled voice command
BTAudio Toggle (not the btaudio on/off but the toggler button that has the little headphones on the icon)
smartphone tracker
activesync
camera
opera 9.5
***prefer but don't have to have:
volume control, the one that is all black with the white volume bars running up and the vibrate and silent buttons directly underneath
there is also a contacts list that matches the above volume controls, black background with scrolling
wow! that actually looks like a lot now that i've written it out! i actually have all the cabs for the above mentioned items (except camer,activsync, volume controls and contacts list). i also have the cab for manila 2d with the weather on the home screen, but i haven't been successful in installing it WITH the home screen weather working, or even on the screen. i believe it's actually an add on. it's not the full manila 2d, just suppoesed to replace the clock with the flipping clock and add the weather under the clock (which it doesn't seem to do), so i think it may be about useless.
that's really about all i want in the rom. i'll most likely be using the HyperDragon IV rom as my base rom, since it already has the home weather. after that (and some more practice) i may try to learn how to take another lite or naked rom and add the home weather clock to it with manila. that's my goal anyway, to learn how to add it to a rom that doesn't already have it or manila. well, i'm off to download and check out that other kitchen. thanks again for the willingness to help me!
You should probably ask the chef of this ROM for help I'm sure they would be more than happy to help you. They would know about everything in the ROM and would be able to help you the most. If not then I'll download Hyperdragon and look at it in the kitchen.
@off-hand question - yup.
kaiser:
well, i think i'm going to download a stock WM 6.1 rom to practice on first. i'll see if i can't get in contact with the chef in the mean time. i got it off of the Sakajati website. not sure if that's going to make any difference in contacting the chef, but i'll see how it pans out. thanks again for your help.
Hi Gents, my name's Paddy and I'm the proud new owner of a TG01 thanks to Orange selling them off at £150! I love it for the fact that I have 24/7 internet access in my pocket, I have a phone and SMS and the rest I'm gradually finding out...(only had it 2 weeks).
I can navigate my way around the device 'now,' but haven't a clue how to change and customise the rather bland "Today Screen," with it's multitude of stripes!
Having looked through this section, I'm in total AWE of you gentlemen, who have the skill and knowlege base to change these things and some of your screens are just amazing, with BIG weather symbols, LARGE clock faces, the date (which I don't have) ..etc, and 'I' would just love to have a go at changing and customising mine (if it's not 'too hard' or risky for a beginner like myself).
Reading things like, TITANINUM; HTC; DOWNLOAD CABS (aren't those taxi's?) is a new language to me, so I need some hand-holding on this one, and basically a 'paint by numbers' BASIC guide on how to change things on this phone of mine (This is from a guy with a 1938 working phone in the house!).
I appreciate that you fella's are leagues ahead of me on what these gadgets 'can do' and what one can 'do with them,' (And it's great to find fok who are so into doing these things) and I understand if my request is rather trivial in the greater scheme of things here, but I honestly wouldn't ask if I didn't want to learn and really do 'need the help and assistance .'
Yours in anticipation. PADDY.
Hi
One of the best things you can put on the TG01 (and the most simple) is SPB mobile shell. Can be found here:
http://spb.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/
Unfortunately you do have to pay for it after the 15 day trial, but for the additional functionality it gives your phone, well worth it
So much nicer than the shoddy tosh interface.
Widgets include:
Clocks, Calenders, Wireless switches, Battery indicators, Messaging notifications, Weather, Media player, Photo frames . . the works
There are various addons for mobile shell available on XDA.
Doesnt cost to give it a go
Hope this helps
Thanks for that.
I didn't even know about that, so thankyou. I'm going to have a look now to see what they have to offer.
When I see things like the pictures posted by members here of their customised screens, and compare it to the default options of my TG01 screen, the two really are planets apart! like different phones almost!
It would have been so much nicer if Toshiba had better options available for the screen layouts, but alas no. So hence my asking for this help.
Thanks again, I appreciate the effort. Paddy.
spb shell it would be fine for you and much more things...
Btw a .cab file is a windows mobile file to install directly on your tg01 an application(any kind of)(like copy/paste[somewhere on tg01, maybe storage card]/tap on .cab & follow onscreen instructions.
You can have something like this by adding SPB Mobile Shell and a skin on top of that.
Skin..etc
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You can have something like this by adding SPB Mobile Shell and a skin on top of that.
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I can follow the downloading of the SPB (Seems straight forward - even for 'me!'). But what is the 'addition of a skin ontop' mean please? (don't worry, I know when I am talking about things I'm really familiar with, it's easy to overlook the lesser knowledge of others' until someone stops me and says, "I didn't quite grasp that, could you just explain more slowly please...").
The effect (shown in the pics) looks great! it's just 'how to' get there that I don't know... (gotta start somewhere I guess).
Putting a skin onto mobile shell means that its changing the original graphics for different ones, like for example the launcher bar at the bottom of the homescreen, or the clock. Personally Im happy with most of the supplied graphics, and the only thing I've put on extra is a widget pack for extra functionality. One baby step at a time Just install mobile shell and get used to that first, the rest will follow later
Good advice in the above post, take a small step at a time. I've tried loads of themes and I've done quite a few hard resets in the past few weeks, this means starting from afresh each time and re-syncing contacts etc.
The best theme I've seen is the Sense 2.5, however the functionality just isn't there yet, contacts not working, can't save internet favorites etc, so it's no good for me at this stage. Other skins can have problems too like memory leakage.
To get my skin I just installed the Mtstmp-Keithdupont MS Espresso cab over SPB Shell and then rearranged the widgets to where I wanted them.
Try here just search on the forum for " SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 tricks"
Really good advice! (Found some video tuition too)
I've been playing with it for the last day or so, and it seems straight forward enough and has a nice look to it! It's good to have the 15-day-trial to test it out too, as that will be ample time to see if it works for 'me.'
For anyone else out there who is a total 'newbie' to these things. For installation advice, go onto YouTube as there are plenty of step-by-step visual guides on how to download the SPB Trial (I didn't know whether to go for the CAB download or the other option! it recommended the CAB) and it breaks it all down into easy steps. 'If' you miss abit, well you can just backtrack the video guide again
The one thing I am finding tricky right now with the SPB, is when I want to make a phone call and do a 'search' via typing in a name for a number. The option of the QWERTY keyboard in my phone section always seems to escape me right now!! no idea why, but hopefully I'll figure that out as it's an important option for me to 'find' a name and number to phone.
Finally, FIRST CLASS SERVICE and help from you gents on this one, as I didn't have a clue where to look or begin, and the new layout really does look professional IMHO! Cheers, PADDY.
PADDY_M
In phone mode, you have a key(left, bottom, right near TALK [phone] sign) ''HIDE (phone) KEYPAD'', tap it and you should get the device keyboard(toshiba or else).
Good luck!
Let me know you got it...
Got it.
Thankyou!!! makes life so much easier!!
Welcome, anytime I can be helpfull...
I am not much more informed than Paddy above but perhaps more foolish. I have downloaded and installed 40 mb of Htc sense 2.1 ( i think). And cannot remove it. I think I need to hard reset? Hold down camera, vol up etc. If I do, will this return the phone to "as new" or will I also lose all original files.
I am most worried about losing coreplayer as I don't have a pc.
Misterik said:
I am most worried about losing coreplayer as I don't have a pc.
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As far as I know coreplayer is preinstalled in wm 6.5/6.1 toshiba ROM, no need to worry about.
Regarding the faulty installation of htc stuff, I suppose(not sure 100%) you're right: hard reset=master clear(start/settings/system/masterclear ) will return your tosh as new(this is 100%sure).
Misterik said:
I am not much more informed than Paddy above but perhaps more foolish. I have downloaded and installed 40 mb of Htc sense 2.1 ( i think). And cannot remove it. I think I need to hard reset? Hold down camera, vol up etc. If I do, will this return the phone to "as new" or will I also lose all original files.
I am most worried about losing coreplayer as I don't have a pc.
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If you do a hard reset, the phone will be as you got it from the store. So it will still have core player installed
Misterik said:
I am not much more informed than Paddy above but perhaps more foolish. I have downloaded and installed 40 mb of Htc sense 2.1 ( i think). And cannot remove it. I think I need to hard reset? Hold down camera, vol up etc. If I do, will this return the phone to "as new" or will I also lose all original files.
I am most worried about losing coreplayer as I don't have a pc.
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If you hard reset (Master Clear is same thing) then you will be back to 'out of the box' status. When you start up a clean device like that, it installs several .cab files provided within the ROM, including the assorted Orange apps and also including Core Player.
If you want to get rid of (most) of the Orange-ness of the TG01 you can intercept this process and prevent these apps being installed, or choose just to add Core Player but none of the others. This is done by using a desktop Registry Editor via USB while it starts up. Detailed instructions are in this thread on MoDaCo (see Post #25).
Thanks very much all. That puts my mind at ease. I'll be able to try other stuff now.