Since all of you have made it so easy to understand the basics, I'm trying to cook!
I'm using the latest official Tilt ROM posted here, but I'd like to import the latest CE OS version from a different ROM. I don't even know if this is possible, but I figure someone would know how if it is.
If I extract the base ROM and the ROM with the target CE OS, how would I go about importing this OS into the Base ROM?
Someone at least tell me shut up Newb and read or point me in the direction I need to go. I've looked and the only thing I can find is some references to XIP being difficult to port.
Is this where the main operating system of the device is stored?
Anyone willing to help?
BulldogXTRM said:
Anyone willing to help?
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I think you just asked the single hardest question about cooking. The answer is there's no "simple" easy way to do it. Most of the files you're looking for will reside in the SYS\OS* folders. The really good news is that as long as you keep the OEM\OEMDrivers folder alone you can port pretty much anything you want from a similar device (Hermes, Polaris, Wizard, etc) and it should work on the Kaiser.
But it is *truly* a VERY slow process to port enough to make things work without porting so much you break it again. And when you have a ROM that won't even boot its a ROYAL PAIN to track down which of dozens of changes you might have made between compiles/flashes is causing the problem. In my experience it's usually something really simple like extra characters in initflashfiles.dat (from editing in Notepad), or some registry setting gone awry.
Anyway, good luck to you!
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I was just wondering, is it possible to use the OS files from the CE 6.0 trial release and use it on the wizard? Probably a stupid question to ask though...
If it is possible, I have the CE 6.0 trial for someone to port though I'm guessing many of you already have this.
Thanks
ehhhh, you are not alone in matter...
some system files form winCE are useable in general , but nothing crucial, just some apps...
in other words i am curious too...
do you have C.E 6 or do you want me to give it to you? that is if you want to work on it of course
also, can you give me examples? would it mostly be the stuff that comes default in the SYS folder if you use the package tool on the rom?(games, remote desktop, windows update,etc.)
thanks
ND4SPD said:
do you have C.E 6 or do you want me to give it to you? that is if you want to work on it of course
also, can you give me examples? would it mostly be the stuff that comes default in the SYS folder if you use the package tool on the rom?(games, remote desktop, windows update,etc.)
thanks
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Post it someplace. I'd like to dump it out and take a look at it. Not sure I have time to really convert it right now but I"M sure someone might...
here is the link: ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]\Upload\C.E. 6.zip
link is working now
the only thing is, it isn't in the format you might expect. Or maybe it is. You will need VC++ on your computer and .NET framework 2.0. I don't know VC++ so I haven't even tried messing with it yet. That could change in a little while though.
just for good measure, i threw in the ce 6.0 platform builder sp1. please tell me if you need any other resources.
good luck!
Ttran, I don't know if you meant it as a joke, but it's entirely doable...
Do you guys think I should make an easy port kitchen? I just need some more info on the ROM folder side of things... Porting cooks, give me your knowledge! hehe It would allow you to input any OEM folder and any SYS folder and have it automatically port things for you.
It's not the best in the fact that the new cooks don't learn how things work, but it would make it easier to port things in general...
don´t ask - just do!
How are you going to write this? If you're going to make Windows batch files (like most of the kitchens out there), get in touch with me. Batch files are definitely one of my specialties, and I'd love to help with this.
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I can develop anything you need in c# as well if you don't want to stick to batch files.
I have been looking for some resources as far as cooking so I can learn to do it myself and am totally into the idea of creating an app to automate it.
Cool. I've done a working preliminary version. It ports the SYS folder just fine. The XIP, I'm still learning how to port so the kitchen still can't touch it.
Both of your offers sound good. I'll be more than happy to have you guys helping out once I figure out how to get the XIP porting done.
Excuse met to if this has already been asked im really not sure what to search for though. All the information i have found on the forum and in the wiki doesn't really answer my question.
So i started cooking roms a few hours ago becuase i want a lighter rom than i can find on the site and also just to educate myself. Anyways i finally got one working with all the hardware and cabs i want. But i would like to know how you do things like set up custom start menu items with icons, themes, sounds, and connection setting like i see in other peoples roms. I was under the impression you would be able to dump all of the os files from the nb and then put it all back togather. All the tools in the kitchen just seem to create images or binary files. Is there something im missing? Is this just all done with custom registry settings, if so is there a good thread somewhere about doing customizations via the registry? I was really hoping to rip IE and windows media player out of CE i guess there is no way to do that if you cant extract all the files from the os....
Also one more thing what are these packages Registry__Increase FileSystem filter cache 0x8000 in alex oem 5.1? I really wish there were some kind of descriptions with each package.
thanks you in advance.
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Excuse met to if this has already been asked im really not sure what to search for though. All the information i have found on the forum and in the wiki doesn't really answer my question.
So i started cooking roms a few hours ago becuase i want a lighter rom than i can find on the site and also just to educate myself. Anyways i finally got one working with all the hardware and cabs i want. But i would like to know how you do things like set up custom start menu items with icons, themes, sounds, and connection setting like i see in other peoples roms. I was under the impression you would be able to dump all of the os files from the nb and then put it all back togather. All the tools in the kitchen just seem to create images or binary files. Is there something im missing? Is this just all done with custom registry settings, if so is there a good thread somewhere about doing customizations via the registry? I was really hoping to rip IE and windows media player out of CE i guess there is no way to do that if you cant extract all the files from the os....
Also one more thing what are these packages Registry__Increase FileSystem filter cache 0x8000 in alex oem 5.1? I really wish there were some kind of descriptions with each package.
thanks you in advance.
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Check the Kaiser Wiki it should have every tutorial you need there.
Hello everyone, this is my first thread here and I really hate to ask this but I have been reading and searching for the past 4 days and have learned a lot except for this. When researching the wiki and searching xda-dev w/ google I couldn't find any info or guides involving the cleaning up of or removing apps/programs from a dumped and extracted ROM. I want to learn how to take a ROM and remove all programs I don't want and re-cook with what I need. Could anyone point me in the right direction so that I can learn this process?
Any help will be greatly appreciated, and please be easy on me if I missed anything. Once again thanks.
try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372469
Thanks but I have already watched all of those vids and have them saved on my computer for future reference. I don't see anything there that will help me with what I need. For example, say I have a HTC ROM that came installed on my device when I bought it and I want to remove bubble breaker and solitare from the ROM as I don't want them. Is there something out there that teaches how to do this? I know how to dump the ROM and extract it, just do not know what parts of the app I need to remove (dll's, exe's, reg entries, etc) or where. I honestly could be missing something but I am for sure confused. Also I used to live just south of Pittsburgh in Washington county, now in AZ....saw you were in western PA.
ok bud not to sound like mean ass...
the screen casts taught you everything, I myself use IMGFS tools to dump and recook roms but there are lots of prebuilt kitchens such as kaiser Kitchen. cooking doesnt get any easier than that. if your going to need more help and just dont get whats in the wiki try and have someone do a one on one with you over IM since everything you need to know is well documented in the kaiser wiki as well as the Hermes wiki
knowing what files to remove can be made easier by using package tool from bepe. but its more trail and error. also you can use reshack to see what files are linked to what.
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ok bud not to sound like mean ass...
the screen casts taught you everything, I myself use IMGFS tools to dump and recook roms but there are lots of prebuilt kitchens such as kaiser Kitchen. cooking doesnt get any easier than that. if your going to need more help and just dont get whats in the wiki try and have someone do a one on one with you over IM since everything you need to know is well documented in the kaiser wiki as well as the Hermes wiki
knowing what files to remove can be made easier by using package tool from bepe. but its more trail and error. also you can use reshack to see what files are linked to what.
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Didn't sound mean at all man. I do use kaiser kitchen and have used imgfs tools by themselves too, neither of those are the problem. Now I have not looked into bepe's tools or reshack which seems to be what I'm looking for more or less. I will try and locate those tools and give them a shot. It's just hard for me to figure out how to remove all parts of an app on a rom. I appreciate the help. Thanks.
yes that is one of the fun parts of rom cooking....
figuring out what goes to what and what you can remove with out breaking something else. its lots of trail and error :/ once you get the hang of it its pretty simple till you start porting roms and such
thanks for the help.
Maybe you can add your discovery to any guides or wikis. Even if it's only an alternate phrasing, it could save other people from a tough learning curve.
Hi friends !
I'm usually trying to cook for my Kaiser, using OsKitchen. I could obtain 3 or 4 flashable ROMs -lots of disaster ROMs too- and now I'm trying to obtain a "decent" ROM with everything well located.
Then, I tried (I like Thahny25's ROMs made in Ivan's kitchen but I'ld like to create my own ROM and share it) to use Ivan's SuperJustKitchen, but it seems too difficult for me; also, thus I must spend more space in my Hard Disk as I can't have no shared folders with OsKitchen to cook for Herald/Wing and Kaiser.
So, I wondered to include Herald's files into Oskitchen structure. But as you maybe read on other places, I'm not an expert in this, but on building, landscape and environment (and this is too far from coding, programming, etc.).
Maybe some of you could use OsKitchen to cook for Herald/Wing. Or maybe some of you know "where to place" every file from Ivan's kitchen into OndraSter's one. This is what I'm asking to any charitative aim who can explain this.
Yes, I know I could ask OndraSter but I think he's busy on other things and also he does not know Herald's world but Kaiser's one.
TYhank you and forgive me the inconvenience, if such considered.
I was working on helping the developer port OsKitchen to the Wing earlier, but he got too busy.
It's an incredible kitchen, and I'm sure he'd help you port it to the Wing for us. It's the best kitchen I've ever seen!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4854633
Well, Ivan/Ervius/Bepe kitchen is amazing, but for my degree of expertise, OndraSter's one is better for me.
@ace....
Yes, I remember you wrote something there. Now we must "only" put the files in the correct folders, but I'm trying to take the files from Ivan's structure into OndraSter's new one and I'm missing. Then, it's supposed the kitchen works for any device we want.
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Well, Ivan/Ervius/Bepe kitchen is amazing, but for my degree of expertise, OndraSter's one is better for me.
@ace....
Yes, I remember you wrote something there. Now we must "only" put the files in the correct folders, but I'm trying to take the files from Ivan's structure into OndraSter's new one and I'm missing. Then, it's supposed the kitchen works for any device we want.
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I guess I might be able to look into it again tonight. I'll see.