Hi Guys,
I have searched high and low for the answer to this one, so I thought I'd give up and ask you guys.
What I need is an Emulator for PPC that I can use on my computer to test downloaded programs before I instal them to my XDA.
The problems are:
Active sync appears to only work with visual .net development suit, which I dont have the money to buy.
Embeded visual C does run a nice emulator, but it wont connect to the active sync and thuse I cant install programmes. There did seem to be a solution in useing the folder option in the above programe to access a Virtual SD card on the computer (shared folder on my drive) but how do I access the programmes?
I would prefer to try these programmes out in a sand pit if I could.
But there doesnt seem to be away.
Please dont flame me if I have missed an earlier thread or some google search... I am new.. I am not worthy... I have no flame retardent underware...
Edy
I don't have an answer for you, (I also would like to do this also!), but I don't believe you will be able to get the eMbedded Emulator to run 'real' apps because these apps are compiled for a CPU target, (usually ARM) and the emulator only runs 8086 compiles.
The emulator is more to test your own source code and it compiles for 8086, and when you are ready, you compile your source for ARM, MIPS, to distribute.
If anyone knows of a Windows based emulator that runs ARM compiled programs, I would LOVE to know about it.
I seem to remember there was a Palm version where you could simply drag and drop programmes into it and test them. Would be nice if that were so for the PPC.
Still noone said life had to be perfect ;-)
Edy
Ya, I came from the Palm world, and they did have an emulator that would allow you to run Palm apps. It wasn’t the great emulation, but it usually was good enough to give you an idea if you even wanted to bother installing it on your ‘real’ device.
Well, maybe there is one for PPC and we just don’t know about it… Anyone???
There is no such an emulator and making it is extremely difficult. You'll have to completely emulate whole CPU, some hardware and write your own OS just for this "virtual" PocketPC. Noone has done this.
So the long and the short of this is I need visual .net to be able to run the MS emu... Any here doing that? If so can you tell me if it is possible to install other programs for testing, or will the emu only work with applications you are writing yourself?
There is no such an emulator and making it is extremely difficult. You'll have to completely emulate whole CPU, some hardware and write your own OS just for this "virtual" PocketPC. Noone has
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no it's that that difficult at all sure it takes some time to do
if you look around for emulators many many platforms come as emulated on pc systems like ps2 all the way back to mame
i have a few friends who just made a whole emulation of the arm cpu on the pc not a pocketpc or windows ce emulator but just pure arm
Rudegar said:
i have a few friends who just made a whole emulation of the arm cpu on the pc not a pocketpc or windows ce emulator but just pure arm
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Please, can you provide us with a link? I was very interested in such an emulation to test Xanadux stuff without being afraid to render the Himalaya into a brick
Matthias
they are making it because they are embedded software developers
and they are making a project where they are programming to the arm cpu i dont know if they would part with the code but mind you it's no
pocketpc emulator and i doubt it would even support a graphic display apart from text since they dont need it for the project
i'm sure there must be some emulators out there
i mean the stuff in embedded visual c++ and visual studio 2003 and 2005
even if it's not a true emulator then it comes kinda close
embedded visual c++ does have an emulator, but you cant sync it with active sync and therefore you can only test programs that you are developing yourself. There was a posted solution for this involving a null modem cable and two com ports. But my computer only has one com port :-(
Looks like you need to buy Visual Studio .net to get a fully working emulator that can sync with active x and thus test programs....
Hi there,
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong about this, but I don't think even getting the .NET framework working with Microsofts PPC 2003 emulator will work as a true emulator for the actual device.
I have the emulators for PPC and SmartPhones installed since we are developing applications for mobile (but mostly Java based) phones. So far with our initial test developments, you can only run your own developed applications or applications that are currently being developed and compiled for the emulators. Final compiled applications (for ARM/MIPS) are different from the compiled versions for the emulators and won't work with it. Being like this, the compiled version for the ARM processors will not work with the PPC emulator.
Well, that is just my comment...
Cheers,
Hey, I haven't tried it yet, but this sure sounds like what we have wanted...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/mobility/windowsmobile/downloads/emulatorpreview/default.aspx
Hey, I just tired it, (installing an ARM app) and it works. Cool!
How do I download that program. or can somebody upload please.
How do I download that program. or can somebody upload please
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* Visit http://beta.microsoft.com,
* Login using your Passport account, or create one if you don't have one.
* Use Guest ID MSDEVICE to access the Community Preview website
You'll have to create a passport but that shouldn't be a real problem? I tried to upload it to the FTP using upload:upload but it won't let me send the file?
I have to say that this tool / App is one of the best you can find on the Web. I can now emulate the Pocket PC on my PC to trial games / apps first without messing up my XDA2i.
Thanks for the link guys well done!!
Lee
Upload it plz!
can u upload it somewhere? i am unable to download from the MS site!!!
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studdocs said:
can u upload it somewhere? i am unable to download from the MS site!!!
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I assume you installed the Microsoft ActiveX component called "Microsoft File Transfer Manager" right?
It's the requestor that appears just before the download begins... Then press "transfer" to begin the transfer ..
I hope it works for you...
Rayan
It would be helpful if somebody could upload this program, I am having no success after many attempts to download.
Here you go: ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/DeviceEmulator050419.msi
(better use a 'normal' FTP client to download)
Hi there!
Does anybody know somekind of emulator / simulator for Pocket IE? Would be nice to have such a tool / webpage (online-tool preferred) in order to develop mroe pda-friendly website...
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...A5-183A-4A1E-A7E2-CC500ED1F19A&displaylang=en
think your only option is to emulate the whole device
though many people here never use PIE as there are much better browsers for pda's
I noticed that on my TP I have a java application. I used to run java games on my old Samsung D500 and would love them on my pro, Can this app be used to run them?
I also cannot remember where I downloaded them from onto my D500 so if you guys can list some mobile phone java game sites then I can hopefully find the one I used. I'm sure it was something like mobo fun or something-mobi. It was a site similar to the following: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/ but was not that one.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Java, MIDlets
Hi Guys and Girls, I'm new here but not so new to ppc's and there apps.
So anyway I have an Apache Running WM6.5 quite well, takes up more ram than I'd hoped for but thats ok.
Now to the topic of this thread, I've seen that a lot of people have been looking for a full screen 3d java emu for there ppc's and there has not been much luck for them, I've had one for quite some time and it works great it runs almost all 3d apps that I've tried to run on it and most of the ones it doesn't don't run on java supported phones ether, it's created by Esmertec by the way.
One fault or maybe let back is a better word is that if you have a lot of Java App's installed on it it takes awhile to load there pics.
And before you ask to many questions heres a list of its do's and don'ts to my knowledge:
FullScreen Support: Yes
3D Support: Yes
Landscape Support: Yes
Multi-Java App's Running: No
Bluetooth Support: Minimal or No
TouchScreen Support on non-touch Midlets: No (Bit of a let down)
Midlets Installed on Main memory: No (Not really sure if it installs them at all, but if it does its not on the main memory)
Installing: There is no cab just copy to you storage card
One more thing, about permissions, well you can't select always alow net access so you have to say yes each time you launch an app like Opera which I've tested but I haven't tested gmail though. Fell free to ask Questions and to request apps, I have a few.
Vromoth
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Now to the topic of this thread, I've seen that a lot of people have been looking for a full screen 3d java emu for there ppc's and there has not been much luck for them, I've had one for quite some time and it works great it runs almost all 3d apps that I've tried to run on it and most of the ones it doesn't don't run on java supported phones ether, it's created by Esmertec by the way.
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Hmm, I think there's been a bit of a mix-up. I believe what those people are actually asking for is a Java program that runs programs at full screen on VGA/WVGA devices.
Most Java programs are designed to run at QVGA resolution and they don't scale, so they aren't full screen on VGA/WVGA phones. Your phone, the HTC Apache, is a QVGA resolution phone, thus all Java programs are full screen on your device.
So far as I know, Esmertec JBed doesn't scale either.
I realized, in my emulators research, that Gizmondo, which operates wince 4.x has some interesting apps.
My question is simple:
can anyone share any information about ANY way of making these launchable on WM6.x(qvga)?
I am not sure, if it's possible, but gut-feeling tells me so.
So is it?
I can imagine, it may be similar to making apps from WM launchable on wince(in reverse), but i did not have any progress with fiddling with dlls, etc etc so far..
actually, snes, amiga, and c64 emulators seems to be "launchable", but unrecognizedg problem prevents it from being usable(blackcreen effect, or silent quits), but programs are starting(generally).
i tried replacing dlls like sdl.dll image_sdl.dll, etc for ppc versions, but it had zero visible behaviour influence(same effects).
What else could i do?
Second question: how hard it could be to port gizmondo app from full sources to ppc(i mean even simple compilation launchable as native ppc app, first)?