Hi Guys,
I have searched high and low for the answer to this one, so I thought I'd give up and ask you guys.
What I need is an Emulator for PPC that I can use on my computer to test downloaded programs before I instal them to my XDA.
The problems are:
Active sync appears to only work with visual .net development suit, which I dont have the money to buy.
Embeded visual C does run a nice emulator, but it wont connect to the active sync and thuse I cant install programmes. There did seem to be a solution in useing the folder option in the above programe to access a Virtual SD card on the computer (shared folder on my drive) but how do I access the programmes?
I would prefer to try these programmes out in a sand pit if I could.
But there doesnt seem to be away.
Please dont flame me if I have missed an earlier thread or some google search... I am new.. I am not worthy... I have no flame retardent underware...
Edy
I don't have an answer for you, (I also would like to do this also!), but I don't believe you will be able to get the eMbedded Emulator to run 'real' apps because these apps are compiled for a CPU target, (usually ARM) and the emulator only runs 8086 compiles.
The emulator is more to test your own source code and it compiles for 8086, and when you are ready, you compile your source for ARM, MIPS, to distribute.
If anyone knows of a Windows based emulator that runs ARM compiled programs, I would LOVE to know about it.
I seem to remember there was a Palm version where you could simply drag and drop programmes into it and test them. Would be nice if that were so for the PPC.
Still noone said life had to be perfect ;-)
Edy
Ya, I came from the Palm world, and they did have an emulator that would allow you to run Palm apps. It wasn’t the great emulation, but it usually was good enough to give you an idea if you even wanted to bother installing it on your ‘real’ device.
Well, maybe there is one for PPC and we just don’t know about it… Anyone???
There is no such an emulator and making it is extremely difficult. You'll have to completely emulate whole CPU, some hardware and write your own OS just for this "virtual" PocketPC. Noone has done this.
So the long and the short of this is I need visual .net to be able to run the MS emu... Any here doing that? If so can you tell me if it is possible to install other programs for testing, or will the emu only work with applications you are writing yourself?
There is no such an emulator and making it is extremely difficult. You'll have to completely emulate whole CPU, some hardware and write your own OS just for this "virtual" PocketPC. Noone has
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no it's that that difficult at all sure it takes some time to do
if you look around for emulators many many platforms come as emulated on pc systems like ps2 all the way back to mame
i have a few friends who just made a whole emulation of the arm cpu on the pc not a pocketpc or windows ce emulator but just pure arm
Rudegar said:
i have a few friends who just made a whole emulation of the arm cpu on the pc not a pocketpc or windows ce emulator but just pure arm
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Please, can you provide us with a link? I was very interested in such an emulation to test Xanadux stuff without being afraid to render the Himalaya into a brick
Matthias
they are making it because they are embedded software developers
and they are making a project where they are programming to the arm cpu i dont know if they would part with the code but mind you it's no
pocketpc emulator and i doubt it would even support a graphic display apart from text since they dont need it for the project
i'm sure there must be some emulators out there
i mean the stuff in embedded visual c++ and visual studio 2003 and 2005
even if it's not a true emulator then it comes kinda close
embedded visual c++ does have an emulator, but you cant sync it with active sync and therefore you can only test programs that you are developing yourself. There was a posted solution for this involving a null modem cable and two com ports. But my computer only has one com port :-(
Looks like you need to buy Visual Studio .net to get a fully working emulator that can sync with active x and thus test programs....
Hi there,
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong about this, but I don't think even getting the .NET framework working with Microsofts PPC 2003 emulator will work as a true emulator for the actual device.
I have the emulators for PPC and SmartPhones installed since we are developing applications for mobile (but mostly Java based) phones. So far with our initial test developments, you can only run your own developed applications or applications that are currently being developed and compiled for the emulators. Final compiled applications (for ARM/MIPS) are different from the compiled versions for the emulators and won't work with it. Being like this, the compiled version for the ARM processors will not work with the PPC emulator.
Well, that is just my comment...
Cheers,
Hey, I haven't tried it yet, but this sure sounds like what we have wanted...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/mobility/windowsmobile/downloads/emulatorpreview/default.aspx
Hey, I just tired it, (installing an ARM app) and it works. Cool!
How do I download that program. or can somebody upload please.
How do I download that program. or can somebody upload please
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* Visit http://beta.microsoft.com,
* Login using your Passport account, or create one if you don't have one.
* Use Guest ID MSDEVICE to access the Community Preview website
You'll have to create a passport but that shouldn't be a real problem? I tried to upload it to the FTP using upload:upload but it won't let me send the file?
I have to say that this tool / App is one of the best you can find on the Web. I can now emulate the Pocket PC on my PC to trial games / apps first without messing up my XDA2i.
Thanks for the link guys well done!!
Lee
Upload it plz!
can u upload it somewhere? i am unable to download from the MS site!!!
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studdocs said:
can u upload it somewhere? i am unable to download from the MS site!!!
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I assume you installed the Microsoft ActiveX component called "Microsoft File Transfer Manager" right?
It's the requestor that appears just before the download begins... Then press "transfer" to begin the transfer ..
I hope it works for you...
Rayan
It would be helpful if somebody could upload this program, I am having no success after many attempts to download.
Here you go: ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/DeviceEmulator050419.msi
(better use a 'normal' FTP client to download)
I have been trying to locate the bochs X86 emulator that was ported over to Pocket PC. It was located at mamaich.kasone.com but the site has been down. Can anyone point me to a download for this app? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hi
Try some p2p net.
You should get PocketDOS (which emulates 0x86) and then google for bochs 486 plugin.
have fun
i think what ur looking for is located here, scrol down:
http://www.pocketdos.com/download.htm#Other
I am wanting to try to get windows 95/98/98se as well as a fiew distros of linux running on my PPC. I was under the impression that only the bochs x86 emulator for PPC was the only one that has been able to do this. Is there another way?
Wow..
You expect much from your PPC
I don't think it's possible.
But you may try...
Dowload pocketDOS and then search for bochs 4x86 emulator plugin.
You'll have an intel 486 processor support but memory simulation is still crappy in pocketdos. You probably won't run anything more than DOS and simple DOS programs. (Even Windows 3.11 won't install because of 320x240 screen).
I don't think it's possible to run anything that uses CPU protected mode (windows / linux).
My best adventure with pocketdos was running norton commander and my x86 assembler programs.
Try it.
have fun
Guys and gals, don’t forget to check out my brand new, MS-DOS / x86 emulation-related article at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1276884
(Sorry for flooding – IMHO, this article certainly deserves attention because it answers ALL the questions a Windows Mobile user may want to EVER ask about emulating MS-DOS. Make sure you read it!)
I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to get the major poker site gui applications(pokerstars, fulltilt poker) running on a ppc? Specifically a touch diamond or t-mobile wing(p4350).
It seems that someone should have developed some sort of emulator that can run windows based applications that aren't resource intensive. I searched, but I am not very savvy so I might have missed obvious key words.
If it hasn't been done and can be done, I would be interested in finding a developer who might try it.
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I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to get the major poker site gui applications(pokerstars, fulltilt poker) running on a ppc? Specifically a touch diamond or t-mobile wing(p4350).
It seems that someone should have developed some sort of emulator that can run windows based applications that aren't resource intensive. I searched, but I am not very savvy so I might have missed obvious key words.
If it hasn't been done and can be done, I would be interested in finding a developer who might try it.
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if they're native PC applications, you're shot. If they're in java, you mayhave better luck.
With all of the security features included, mainly with FTP since I use it, I doubt you could make this for your device. There is however, a very good multiplayer poker game from, I think, RealDice Inc.
long time ago (like in the 2002) i tried some software like Pocketdos or some like that, i know theres a pc ol game emulator too, but this days, i dont know if there a good pc emulator, to run dos, linux or eve windows 9X, any ideas? regards
I'm afraid PockedDOS is as close as you'll get to a "PC" emulator on your PPC. Here is the link:
http://www.pocketdos.com/download.htm
Tried out DOSBox for PPC?
http://n0p.tonych.info/?DOSBox_PPC
Gona take a look of both... but i am thinking the emulation of anything on my kaiser its very limited, i try nop snes emulator with CA 3d drivers and frame skip like 7 and its very slow, in PocketDOS i found this:
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My application works under PocketDOS but it is just too slow to be usable. Is there any solution?
PocketDOS emulates an 80186 processor in software. On a 206Mhz ARM processor, it reaches the equivalent speed of a 20Mhz 80186 (or 10Mhz 80386) processor. There is no way to make it go faster at present, neither is there likely to be much improvement in the speed of the emulation in the forseeable future. The only option available to increase the speed of your application is to port the application to Windows CE and compile it for the type of processor used in your device. :eek:
I am looking for REAL emulator (NOT simulator) that can run iOS 3 or Windows Mobile 2003 apps on Windows.
Yes, I already did digging in google, finding a lot lists of "THE BEST TOP EMULATORS", but they are just fake articles with wrong information just to get visitors and earnings on their ads.
Years ago, I had Windows Mobile 2003 SE device from HTC.
I bought a game for it and played it a lot.
After years, I wanted to play it again, but it was only released for Windows Mobile (pre Windows Phone 7) and iOS 3+ devices.
Since I changed phone long time ago and I am not interested in having iPhone, I would like to play this game on Windows by using emulator.
The game title is Orions The Legend Of Wizards (or Orions 2 The Deckmasters).
I enjoyed it a lot, and I did not find any TCG or CCG similar in gameplay to it (I am already familiar with Magic The Gathering and others, but they are completely different in mechanics).
Windows Mobile.
Yes, I know there is Microsoft Device Emulator 3.
I downloaded it from official website with official OS images, but I have x64 bit operating system and I am getting the same error like other people on internet: "there are not seven pairs of xpvcom in system".
Yes, I downloaded x64 version of emulator and tried reinstall XPVCom solution which does not work like for other people too.
Yes, I read about using Virtual PC solution, so installing VPC, installing 32-bit OS in it, to use emulator in emulator - like others said, this is ridiculous and I am not going to do that.
Any other solutions?
iOS 3+.
Yes, there is a lot software, but they are not emulators like it is claimed, they are just similators.
I am looking for real emulator that is able to run iOS app.
Any solutions?
I know this forum is full of real geeks who understand technical topics very well.
Thanks for any help.