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PPC Emulator for Testing downloaded programs

Hi Guys,
I have searched high and low for the answer to this one, so I thought I'd give up and ask you guys.
What I need is an Emulator for PPC that I can use on my computer to test downloaded programs before I instal them to my XDA.
The problems are:
Active sync appears to only work with visual .net development suit, which I dont have the money to buy.
Embeded visual C does run a nice emulator, but it wont connect to the active sync and thuse I cant install programmes. There did seem to be a solution in useing the folder option in the above programe to access a Virtual SD card on the computer (shared folder on my drive) but how do I access the programmes?
I would prefer to try these programmes out in a sand pit if I could.
But there doesnt seem to be away.
Please dont flame me if I have missed an earlier thread or some google search... I am new.. I am not worthy... I have no flame retardent underware...
Edy

I don't have an answer for you, (I also would like to do this also!), but I don't believe you will be able to get the eMbedded Emulator to run 'real' apps because these apps are compiled for a CPU target, (usually ARM) and the emulator only runs 8086 compiles.
The emulator is more to test your own source code and it compiles for 8086, and when you are ready, you compile your source for ARM, MIPS, to distribute.
If anyone knows of a Windows based emulator that runs ARM compiled programs, I would LOVE to know about it.

I seem to remember there was a Palm version where you could simply drag and drop programmes into it and test them. Would be nice if that were so for the PPC.
Still noone said life had to be perfect ;-)
Edy

Ya, I came from the Palm world, and they did have an emulator that would allow you to run Palm apps. It wasn’t the great emulation, but it usually was good enough to give you an idea if you even wanted to bother installing it on your ‘real’ device.
Well, maybe there is one for PPC and we just don’t know about it… Anyone???

There is no such an emulator and making it is extremely difficult. You'll have to completely emulate whole CPU, some hardware and write your own OS just for this "virtual" PocketPC. Noone has done this.

So the long and the short of this is I need visual .net to be able to run the MS emu... Any here doing that? If so can you tell me if it is possible to install other programs for testing, or will the emu only work with applications you are writing yourself?

There is no such an emulator and making it is extremely difficult. You'll have to completely emulate whole CPU, some hardware and write your own OS just for this "virtual" PocketPC. Noone has
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no it's that that difficult at all sure it takes some time to do
if you look around for emulators many many platforms come as emulated on pc systems like ps2 all the way back to mame
i have a few friends who just made a whole emulation of the arm cpu on the pc not a pocketpc or windows ce emulator but just pure arm

Rudegar said:
i have a few friends who just made a whole emulation of the arm cpu on the pc not a pocketpc or windows ce emulator but just pure arm
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Please, can you provide us with a link? I was very interested in such an emulation to test Xanadux stuff without being afraid to render the Himalaya into a brick
Matthias

they are making it because they are embedded software developers
and they are making a project where they are programming to the arm cpu i dont know if they would part with the code but mind you it's no
pocketpc emulator and i doubt it would even support a graphic display apart from text since they dont need it for the project
i'm sure there must be some emulators out there
i mean the stuff in embedded visual c++ and visual studio 2003 and 2005
even if it's not a true emulator then it comes kinda close

embedded visual c++ does have an emulator, but you cant sync it with active sync and therefore you can only test programs that you are developing yourself. There was a posted solution for this involving a null modem cable and two com ports. But my computer only has one com port :-(
Looks like you need to buy Visual Studio .net to get a fully working emulator that can sync with active x and thus test programs....

Hi there,
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong about this, but I don't think even getting the .NET framework working with Microsofts PPC 2003 emulator will work as a true emulator for the actual device.
I have the emulators for PPC and SmartPhones installed since we are developing applications for mobile (but mostly Java based) phones. So far with our initial test developments, you can only run your own developed applications or applications that are currently being developed and compiled for the emulators. Final compiled applications (for ARM/MIPS) are different from the compiled versions for the emulators and won't work with it. Being like this, the compiled version for the ARM processors will not work with the PPC emulator.
Well, that is just my comment...
Cheers,

Hey, I haven't tried it yet, but this sure sounds like what we have wanted...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/mobility/windowsmobile/downloads/emulatorpreview/default.aspx

Hey, I just tired it, (installing an ARM app) and it works. Cool!

How do I download that program. or can somebody upload please.

How do I download that program. or can somebody upload please
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* Visit http://beta.microsoft.com,
* Login using your Passport account, or create one if you don't have one.
* Use Guest ID MSDEVICE to access the Community Preview website
You'll have to create a passport but that shouldn't be a real problem? I tried to upload it to the FTP using upload:upload but it won't let me send the file?

I have to say that this tool / App is one of the best you can find on the Web. I can now emulate the Pocket PC on my PC to trial games / apps first without messing up my XDA2i.
Thanks for the link guys well done!!
Lee

Upload it plz!
can u upload it somewhere? i am unable to download from the MS site!!!
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studdocs said:
can u upload it somewhere? i am unable to download from the MS site!!!
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I assume you installed the Microsoft ActiveX component called "Microsoft File Transfer Manager" right?
It's the requestor that appears just before the download begins... Then press "transfer" to begin the transfer ..
I hope it works for you...
Rayan

It would be helpful if somebody could upload this program, I am having no success after many attempts to download.

Here you go: ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/DeviceEmulator050419.msi
(better use a 'normal' FTP client to download)

(if there any) the best PC emulator for PPC

long time ago (like in the 2002) i tried some software like Pocketdos or some like that, i know theres a pc ol game emulator too, but this days, i dont know if there a good pc emulator, to run dos, linux or eve windows 9X, any ideas? regards

I'm afraid PockedDOS is as close as you'll get to a "PC" emulator on your PPC. Here is the link:
http://www.pocketdos.com/download.htm

Tried out DOSBox for PPC?
http://n0p.tonych.info/?DOSBox_PPC

Gona take a look of both... but i am thinking the emulation of anything on my kaiser its very limited, i try nop snes emulator with CA 3d drivers and frame skip like 7 and its very slow, in PocketDOS i found this:
Code:
My application works under PocketDOS but it is just too slow to be usable. Is there any solution?
PocketDOS emulates an 80186 processor in software. On a 206Mhz ARM processor, it reaches the equivalent speed of a 20Mhz 80186 (or 10Mhz 80386) processor. There is no way to make it go faster at present, neither is there likely to be much improvement in the speed of the emulation in the forseeable future. The only option available to increase the speed of your application is to port the application to Windows CE and compile it for the type of processor used in your device. :eek:

Run Tiny Windows EXE on Windows Mobile?

I have a VERY small EXE file, about 200 or 300KB. It runs on Windows, and will not run on my device obviously since it was not compiled for Windows Mobile.
I do not have the ability to recompile it, so is there a way to make a stand-alone windows EXE run on Windows Mobile? Like a compatibility app/emulator I can install on Windows Mobile to allow it to run?
Thanks

1) If it is DOS application, use DOSBOX emulator.
2) You can boot Win 95 in emuator, but it is pretty inconvenient (and not very easy to do). And many of today's apps won't run in Win 95 neither.
3) Get a source code and recompile it
PS: Size doesn't matter

i have one win aplication., but cant install win95 emulator.. something is wrong... program is 150kb., but must be runed from win...

forget about it and i am serious.
or do what CommZ said:
3) Get a source code and recompile it
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Hey, first time posting to XDA. I am curious about this as well. Allthough my idea is not as small, but as you said size doesnt matter I would love to be able to run rpg maker 2000 games on my mobile device "Axim X51V with lennysh 11 rom on it". I'm not talking about building games, just being able to run the rpg_rt runtime file so i can play games on it. Don't point me to smokingfish's site as I can't imagine it bieng able to play rpgmaker 2000 games as it seems like it was all a project on its own. This idea has me almost interested enough to learn some programming. Do you think it would be possible? Would it be a huge undertaking to someone who knew what they were doing?
Games to play would be.
1. Three the Hard Way
2. Laxius Power series
3. Final Fantasy Endless Nova

[Refresh thread] - x86 emulators

Hello. This question has been asked here already long time ago so the answers might have been outdated. So I'll ask again:
What is the dos/x86 emulator to use on PPC?
I tried pocketdos on different confs but it did not reach my goal
I am trying to run a dos based app that is also an emulator - TOSbox. It emulates the old Atari desktop computer (not the game console). And I couldn't get it to run inside pocketdos

Is there a X86 emulator for android better than Bochs?

Hey, guys! I want to emulate Mac OS X 10.9 in my Moto X... Just a few questions:
1-I read that emulators are not virtual machines.. what's the difference between them?
2-There's an emulator/virtual machine for android that runs better and faster than Bochs?
3-There's an way to acess the internet and listen audio in the emulator?
Thank You and sorry about the english because i'm brazilian...

pedrocarboni said:
Hey, guys! I want to emulate Mac OS X 10.9 in my Moto X... Just a few questions:
1-I read that emulators are not virtual machines.. what's the difference between them?
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You are correct in that they are different, but are very closely related. Emulators are programs that allow you to run programs from one CPU instruction set on another. For example, Intel and AMD CPU's run the x86 instruction set, while most phones and tablets use the ARM instruction set. An emulator will let you run x86 code on an ARM system, or the other way around. Unfortunately, other hardware has to have special support (video card, sound card, networking). It can also run x86 code on an x86 system. This is useful to run two operating systems on one computer at a type (such as Windows and Linux, MacOS and Windows, etc.).
A Virtual Machine is probably best explained by using the Java language as an example. When you write a Java program and compile it, it turns the readable code into something called "bytecode". Its similar to x86 and ARM in the sense that it breaks down instructions into the simplest possible form, however, its for a computer that doesn't exist, a "virtual" computer. The system is designed so a program called a "Virtual Machine" can easily run the instructions on any computer, no matter if its running on an x86 computer, or ARM computer, or is running Windows, Linux, MacOS, or Android.
2-There's an emulator/virtual machine for android that runs better and faster than Bochs?
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Unfortunately I don't know. However, I think that most Android devices would have difficulty emulating MacOS since they have very limited CPU and RAM resources.
3-There's an way to acess the internet and listen audio in the emulator?
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This depends on the emulator, but most definitely. For example, the Virtualbox x86 emulator provides devices to the emulated system to do just this.
Thank You and sorry about the english because i'm brazilian...
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Your English is quite good. No need to apologize for it . I hope I was of some help.

nhakobian said:
You are correct in that they are different, but are very closely related. Emulators are programs that allow you to run programs from one CPU instruction set on another. For example, Intel and AMD CPU's run the x86 instruction set, while most phones and tablets use the ARM instruction set. An emulator will let you run x86 code on an ARM system, or the other way around. Unfortunately, other hardware has to have special support (video card, sound card, networking). It can also run x86 code on an x86 system. This is useful to run two operating systems on one computer at a type (such as Windows and Linux, MacOS and Windows, etc.).
A Virtual Machine is probably best explained by using the Java language as an example. When you write a Java program and compile it, it turns the readable code into something called "bytecode". Its similar to x86 and ARM in the sense that it breaks down instructions into the simplest possible form, however, its for a computer that doesn't exist, a "virtual" computer. The system is designed so a program called a "Virtual Machine" can easily run the instructions on any computer, no matter if its running on an x86 computer, or ARM computer, or is running Windows, Linux, MacOS, or Android.
Unfortunately I don't know. However, I think that most Android devices would have difficulty emulating MacOS since they have very limited CPU and RAM resources.
This depends on the emulator, but most definitely. For example, the Virtualbox x86 emulator provides devices to the emulated system to do just this.
Your English is quite good. No need to apologize for it . I hope I was of some help.
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Hey guy! Thank you so much for the help! I thought it was the same thing...
Anyway, I already saw Bochs emulating Windows 7 without lag on the Samsung Galaxy S5..
Thank you!

hmmm....try limbo...