Been hearing a buzz lately about using an aircard and a mobile router to makeyour own personal wifi hotspot. Anyone done this and just how much faster is an air card than the single radio in the kaiser??? how many radio's in an air card??? Can air cards be fast enough to replace cable internet on only good enough for on the go???? Thanks for any answers / input.
P.S. If i do do this I would be using the newest aircard att has i think it's sierra usb connect 881
jefem24 said:
Been hearing a buzz lately about using an aircard and a mobile router to makeyour own personal wifi hotspot. Anyone done this and just how much faster is an air card than the single radio in the kaiser??? how many radio's in an air card??? Can air cards be fast enough to replace cable internet on only good enough for on the go???? Thanks for any answers / input.
P.S. If i do do this I would be using the newest aircard att has i think it's sierra usb connect 881
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Here in the Middle East we have 3.5G and it has a max speed of 7.2 mbps. We also have a router that uses a SIM and connects to your devices by either erhernet or wi-fi. Here is a link with some information:
http://www.kw.zain.com/ZAINIM/portal/ChannelPage?loc=en&newuser=1
Due to the design of the page I had to link to the main page, the router is the top item on the right hand side of the page.
I have a linksys Wrt54g3g in Portugal. It supports hsadpa with 7.2 max speed. Really cool and usefull. Vodafone branded, but it can be bought free and unlocket.
Thanks fo rthe posts guys so from your comments i gather that I would like doing this. But i still need somone who has used cards here to let me know how much faster Ishould expect? Asked att people no clu of course there. Anyone here have the air cards at least??? how fast compared to phone?
unlimited data?
since my regular phone has unlimited data does anyone know what happens if i swap sims? will it give me data at the same rate still or does this take special sims?
I am going to appologize in advance if this has been covered or a noob question, but I was wondering if I am able to connect this with another phone via bluetooth as possibly use that phone as a modem to let the 7510 get online? Reason being is this 7510 doesn't have T-Mobile 3G and I would be trying to use 3G off my other phone. I know this is possible on my laptop so the question has no arrisen since I am debating on either getting this 7510 or the Shift. I notcied that the shift uses Vista/Xp so I figured what ever my laptop could do as far as connections, I would be able to do with that as well.
If anyone could shed some info on the topic, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
I'm sure this is possible- a lot of older PDAs used Bluetooth to connect to a mobile phone, and use the GPRS connection. Most 3G phones have a connection setup for BT Modem.
It would be pretty slow though- even if BT2 is supported on both devices you are unlikely to get anywhere near 3G speeds.
Does the Shift have the US T-Mobile 3G capability? If so it would be an easier setup!
Ya, no the shift doesn't have T-Mobile bands thats why I wanted to tether. I just wanted a small device to do emails/web/GPS/Music seperately. I'm thinking either the 7500 or so or a internet Tablet Device.
The 7500/7510 could do this, but forget about streaming music over a Bluetooth phone pairing. Locally stored music would be fine though though the wired headset or over Bluetooth A2DP.
But, if all you really want is a small devcie for those needs, why not opt for a smaller Windows Mobile device that does support the T-Mo 3G band?
There isn't a T-Mobile device that runs on 3G for the T-Zones data plan. Hence why I am actually using the Sony Ericcson TM506 for the data and trying to figure out with device I want more, which I am leaning more towards the Advantage than the N810 since its Windows Mobile and more customizible.
Ah- OK. Just seen that T-Mo use 1700 band for upload and 2100 for download, and no WM devices support that combo
I have a rooted X and use wireless tether for wifi. I am traveling to South Africa next month and was wondering if it would still work over there. My first thought was that it would not because there would be no verizon signal (data) available there but funny enough my wireless tether still worked when i put my phone on airplane mode so i am confused. Does wireless tether not use verizon "signal" to supply the wifi? Does anyone know for sure if it will work overseas? Thanks
I'm not sure i understand, but wifi (like bluetooth) is local if you have two devices connected over wifi in the USA, it will work anywhere else in the world?
The action of tethering allows for example a laptop to use the internet connection of your mobile. The wifi itself does not supply internet access it merely connects the two devices.
Your mobile's radio has internet access through GRPS/3G...etc. and this access to provided for the laptop through wifi.
btw wrong section, this is "Android Software and Hacking General", use Questions & Answers next time. It will yield better results, faster.
Dark3n said:
I'm not sure i understand, but wifi (like bluetooth) is local if you have two devices connected over wifi in the USA, it will work anywhere else in the world?
The action of tethering allows for example a laptop to use the internet connection of your mobile. The wifi itself does not supply internet access it merely connects the two devices.
Your mobile's radio has internet access through GRPS/3G...etc. and this access to provided for the laptop through wifi.
btw wrong section, this is "Android Software and Hacking General", use Questions & Answers next time. It will yield better results, faster.
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Thank you, i think you answered my question. maybe i just didnt word it correctly. You say that the wireless tether app allowes my computer or ipad to run of my mobile internet so if i go outside the US were there is no 3G mobile signal, there is obviously no mobile internet to "beem" out to my ipad. Do i have that right? i was just confused way my phone, through wireless tether was still able to supply and internet connection to my ipad when it was in airplane mode.
I will also post my questions in the right section next time. Thanks for the heads up
Yes you have that right. But not only the US has 3G signal, south africa depending on the region probably has mobile internet too, but i would buy a sim card from their carrier in southafrica, because data roaming costs a fortune.
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Yes you have that right. But not only the US has 3G signal, south africa depending on the region probably has mobile internet too, but i would buy a sim card from their carrier in southafrica, because data roaming costs a fortune.
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Sounds like the thing to do but as far as i know the droid x is not a international phone like the droid 2 global and would probably not be able to take a sim card
It probably takes the simcard, but might need a different modem/radio to work down there.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but can one buy a Verizon USB stick and then have cell data service on the tablet?
HowardZ said:
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but can one buy a Verizon USB stick and then have cell data service on the tablet?
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It is not a stupid question. But... If you have a VZW LTE device and you have the share everything plan, you do not need the device since you will save a lot of money if you simply tether using wifi share under you share plan (which does not cost more). If you do not have a share everything plan, you can still save a lot of money of you download fox-fi for free and use it with your unlimited plan (Notice: this violates the VZW contract) or pay $15 a month for the right to tether. Either way, you save money by not having to purchase a USB device and paying the monthly line fee.
Hope this helps.
perlmane said:
It is not a stupid question. But... If you have a VZW LTE device and you have the share everything plan, you do not need the device since you will save a lot of money if you simply tether using wifi share under you share plan (which does not cost more). If you do not have a share everything plan, you can still save a lot of money of you download fox-fi for free and use it with your unlimited plan (Notice: this violates the VZW contract) or pay $15 a month for the right to tether. Either way, you save money by not having to purchase a USB device and paying the monthly line fee.
Hope this helps.
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That is a good alternative, but it includes paying for a cell phone or Teather device, its contract with Verizon, and keeping it charged.
I think the TF700 has a USB port. But does the Verizon stick require Windows? Will it even work on android?
perhaps nobody has been trying to do this.
thanks,
Howard
HowardZ said:
That is a good alternative, but it includes paying for a cell phone or Teather device, its contract with Verizon, and keeping it charged.
I think the TF700 has a USB port. But does the Verizon stick require Windows? Will it even work on android?
perhaps nobody has been trying to do this.
thanks,
Howard
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It does have a USB port, but I do not think 1) it can power the modem, 2) it supports the drivers of the USB modem, and 3) there is an app that talks to the modem. Short answer is, highly unlikely that it will work.
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It does have a USB port, but I do not think 1) it can power the modem, 2) it supports the drivers of the USB modem, and 3) there is an app that talks to the modem. Short answer is, highly unlikely that it will work.
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That is disappointing, because a tablet with cellular data service, plus Bluetooth, plus Skype or Google voice could be a do everything device. it would also be cell company independent if one can always switch USB stick to another cell phone company.
Perhaps a windows 7 tablet is what is needed for this scenario? I'd prefer Android.
Regards,
Howard
HowardZ said:
That is disappointing, because a tablet with cellular data service, plus Bluetooth, plus Skype or Google voice could be a do everything device. it would also be cell company independent if one can always switch USB stick to another cell phone company.
Perhaps a windows 7 tablet is what is needed for this scenario? I'd prefer Android.
Regards,
Howard
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I completely agree with you. That is why I think that the Surface (WIntel 8) devices will be very successful.
HowardZ said:
That is disappointing, because a tablet with cellular data service, plus Bluetooth, plus Skype or Google voice could be a do everything device. it would also be cell company independent if one can always switch USB stick to another cell phone company.
Perhaps a windows 7 tablet is what is needed for this scenario? I'd prefer Android.
Regards,
Howard
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If you want it all in one, have you thought about getting a 4G version later this year?
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I have a feeling that most people that have a Transformer, also have some sort of cell phone. I think that most people just prefer to tether if needed, which is probably why this is not something that is available (yet, at least)...
I could be wrong, but I woulnd't think there wouldn't be much demand for this type of setup...
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jtrosky said:
I have a feeling that most people that have a Transformer, also have some sort of cell phone. I think that most people just prefer to tether if needed, which is probably why this is not something that is available (yet, at least)...
I could be wrong, but I woulnd't think there wouldn't be much demand for this type of setup...
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While you may be right, the battery of the device providing the tethering does suffer from battery drain, so an internal 4G LTE modem would be nice to have, but it appears that you are right about the popularity of such a feature. I believe I read that the XOOM WIFI outsold the XOOM that came out first with VZW due to the lower price. I had the VZW XOOM, but to be honest, I usually used it on Wifi, hardly ever using the built in 3G/LTE, I understand why people would want to have a USB modem so that they could use any Cellular carrier regardless of the device they want to buy.
Archos tablets have an optional USB stick for 3G GSM cellular connectivity.
However it is for european use only.
http://www.archos.com/store/g9_3g_stick.html?country=gb&lang=en
So, this exists for some tablets in some countries.
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I have a feeling that most people that have a Transformer, also have some sort of cell phone. I think that most people just prefer to tether if needed, which is probably why this is not something that is available (yet, at least)...
I could be wrong, but I woulnd't think there wouldn't be much demand for this type of setup...
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I want it for the CPU. I dont care for the Tegra 3.
Dump the USB stick and get the Verizon 4G LTE Mifi device, it allows the connection up to 5 mobile devices and doesn't have the quirks and limitations that a USB air card have which primarily drivers and connection limitation.
I used one for my Prime in the past, I haven't tried it on my new Infinity yet, but I'm 100% certain it will work as all the Mifi does is create a 4G LTE hotspot that any wifi enabled device with WPA2 support can connect to.
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Dump the USB stick and get the Verizon 4G LTE Mifi device, it allows the connection up to 5 mobile devices and doesn't have the quirks and limitations that a USB air card have which primarily drivers and connection limitation.
I used one for my Prime in the past, I haven't tried it on my new Infinity yet, but I'm 100% certain it will work as all the Mifi does is create a 4G LTE hotspot that any wifi enabled device with WPA2 support can connect to.
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I agree with this approach -- if you really want connectivity away from a wifi source I see this as far better way to go -- you can carry the VZW Jetpack in your pocket and it's good for a number of hours, usually long enough to bridge between wifi connections -- it also can be powered by AC if near a power outlet. The down side, of course, is the need to have an additional data plan.
brucewilsonpa said:
I agree with this approach -- if you really want connectivity away from a wifi source I see this as far better way to go -- you can carry the VZW Jetpack in your pocket and it's good for a number of hours, usually long enough to bridge between wifi connections -- it also can be powered by AC if near a power outlet. The down side, of course, is the need to have an additional data plan.
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Actually, there is no additional data plan required if you have the share plan. And whatever the cost, it would be the same for the USB as the MiFi, but the MiFi can drive more than one device at the same time.
Are you really concerned with the possibility of changing carriers? If so, what is the area in which this would be used in? Verizon uses CDMA for their 4G and though CDMA is a better technology, it is only available in North America (thus, less carriers and use space). If you have any plans of using this setup outside the US, you'd be much better off with GSM which is now coming into the 4G level but can be used world-wide. I have a ZTE MF60 which I used in Europe to get 3G mobile data on everything - 2 laptops, 2 tablets and a phone. The mobile wifi hotspots definately are worth the annoyance of carrying around an extra device. Haven't tried it yet, but one could possibly use the keyboard dock USB to charge the hotspot and provide access to other devices. So, you basically have 2 choices ahead of you: Technology type (based off of region of access) and How you want to use it (plug into only one device or a hotspot for everything).
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Are you really concerned with the possibility of changing carriers? If so, what is the area in which this would be used in? Verizon uses CDMA for their 4G and though CDMA is a better technology, it is only available in North America (thus, less carriers and use space). If you have any plans of using this setup outside the US, you'd be much better off with GSM which is now coming into the 4G level but can be used world-wide. I have a ZTE MF60 which I used in Europe to get 3G mobile data on everything - 2 laptops, 2 tablets and a phone. The mobile wifi hotspots definately are worth the annoyance of carrying around an extra device. Haven't tried it yet, but one could possibly use the keyboard dock USB to charge the hotspot and provide access to other devices. So, you basically have 2 choices ahead of you: Technology type (based off of region of access) and How you want to use it (plug into only one device or a hotspot for everything).
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If I'm not mistaken, Verizons 4G technology is actually not based on CDMA. Verizon 4G phones inherently have GSM capabilities (if the kernel and ROM support it) because it essentially uses a GSM antenna. They also have CDMA radios as well, to support Verizons 3G network.
Correct me if I am wrong.
omahacrazymike said:
If I'm not mistaken, Verizons 4G technology is actually not based on CDMA. Verizon 4G phones inherently have GSM capabilities (if the kernel and ROM support it) because it essentially uses a GSM antenna. They also have CDMA radios as well, to support Verizons 3G network.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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The only thing that might pose an issue is that the LTE frequencies that VZW uses are not the same world-wide, so while the GSM side should work, LTE speeds might be difficult to achieve outside the US.
omahacrazymike said:
If I'm not mistaken, Verizons 4G technology is actually not based on CDMA. Verizon 4G phones inherently have GSM capabilities (if the kernel and ROM support it) because it essentially uses a GSM antenna. They also have CDMA radios as well, to support Verizons 3G network.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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The only thing that might pose an issue is that the LTE frequencies that VZW uses are not the same world-wide, so while the GSM side should work, LTE speeds might be difficult to achieve outside the US.
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Seems I stand corrected. The 4G LTE is based off GSM, so at least that would work in GSM areas (though perhaps not at 4G speeds). Phone communication still uses CDMA unless its a dual phone that can use GSM or CDMA. GSM functionality is not natively inherent to Verizon's phone nor CDMA. If you want to test it here in the states, move from Verizon to AT&T or T-mobile. If it works that way then it will work in a GSM environment.
Why Verizon 4G LTE smartphones are a bad choice for world travelers
Actually, the Razr with ICS provides global roaming, but so do their 4G jetpacs.
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perlmane said:
Actually, the Razr with ICS provides global roaming, but so do their 4G jetpacs.
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Well, now that's cool about the RAZR... might have to read up on that 'un.
But what I meant is that one needs to find a specific functionality that allows for such roaming. Buying Verizon does not automatically get GSM nor does having CDMA automatically work worldwide. One needs to find a device where it is specifically mentioned, such as that RAZR you indicated.