Hey,
I tried to pot my Treo back to WM6 from Vodafone with the original updater, but it keeps telling me that my device is not supported because of language issues (Right now there is WM6.1 working on it in english and I need to flash the German WM6). when I open the installer with WINRAR I can see a couple of *.nbh files (cheeimg.nbh and cheeimg_fw.nbh). Is it eventually possible to just take one of them and flash it? or do they anyway require to have a preinstalled stock ROM to update with them? And why are there so many other files in, when i usually actually just need one nbh file as a rom?
Thanks for helping me understand my phone
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i d like to know that aswell. did you fixed the issue by now?
If you want to use the official updater you need to modify the payloads.xml file.
You can find it by opening the official updater, but don't start the upgrade. Opening the updater will extract a bunch of files to your TEMP folder. The payloads.xml file will be in one of the subfolders. The folder is called something random so you'll have to seach for it, but you'll see a bunch of Palm icons in it so you'll know you're there.
You can edit the payloads.xml file with any text editor. Notepad works fine.
If you are changing carriers as part of the update, you will probably need to change the carrier code to the one matching the currently installed ROM. This is AT&T, for example.
Code:
<carrier_codes>CNG,ATT</carrier_codes>
I think Vodofone is VF, but you'll have to do some searching to confirm that.
Then you need to change the revision range to allow the downgrade.
Code:
<revision_range>
<low>1.13</low>
<high>3.00</high>
</revision_range>
Save it when you are done, and then start the updater. It should work. If not, there are plenty of posts here about downgrading ROM's, so search around until you find something that works for you.
And yes, you can extract the ROM's from a desktop updater and flash using the SD card method, assuming of course you have successfully HardSPL'd your phone. You need the CHEEIMG_FW.nbh file, but must rename it to CHEEIMG.nbh before putting it on the SD card.
You don't need to Hard-SPL in order to flash official Palm WM ROMs from a MiniSD.
Related
I made quite the mistake yesterday. I have an MDA compact that came from T-Mobile Germany and originally had german as the default language. It was easy to change to english by going to regional settings & selecting english.
So I didn't think twice about using a German T-Mobile ROM upgrade - and now I'm stuck with GERMAN!!! Regional settings doesn't change the language any more! what the heck?
Sooooo, I need a WWE .exe ROM that will load - I tried a UK WWE and I was told by the installer that I had the wrong language and install could not continue. Is there a way to go back to WWE? I don't care at this point what version.....
Also, I have downloaded from the FTP server other ROM versions but they are all .nb1 files and, despite my best efforts, I can't understand the proper way to install these. I've looked thru lots of posts and found one set of instructions but they were very hard to understand. HELP!!
funkynugget,
I have been in your shoes, in the exact situation as a matter of fact. I am very familiar with PPC but had never flashed anything in my life( well there was this one time a few years back but uuhhhh.. thats for another story) Anyways just down load the preferred WWE, I am using the latest Jam rom which works great with my German Tmobile. You will also need to download the MaUpgradeUt.exe file as well. Do a google search to find that one by just typing in MaUpgradeUt.exe Now unzip or unrar (whatever) the rom that you choose to use so it breaks down the files seperately. In it you will see the MaUpgradeUt.exe file. Remove that one a replace it with the newly downloaded one. Click on the and enjoy. You may come up with langauge or country error. dont worry if that happens just restart, it will work the second time.
Todd
thank you sooo much for the advice. i will for sure give it a try. i've downloaded another version of the ROM from orange and i'll probably end up just using that BUT i would prefer to use the i-mate ROM, from what i hear it fixes all kinds of little bugs. only problem is it isn't available on the FTP server and i have no other access. do you have it? can you post it to the FTP server here on xda?
once again, thanks for the help!
i've done some research to find a downloadable 'maUpgradeUt.exe' file and i'm starting to wonder if it matters where i get it & what type. you suggest downloading one to replace the one that comes with the WWE ROM but how do i know i found the correct 'maUpdateUt.exe' language/file?
funkynugget,
I tried but it said I do not have permission to upload file. Do you have an FTP I could upload to, it would be my pleasure as I also have received help from this site and would be lost without it.
Todd
'maUpgradeUt.exe'
funkynugget,
I am trying to attach the 'maUpgradeUt.exe' file, Im not sure it will work and I hope its OK to do this, we will see.
Now unzip or unrar (whatever) the rom that you choose to use so it breaks down the files seperately. In it you will see the MaUpgradeUt.exe file. Remove that one a replace it with the newly downloaded one. Click on the and enjoy.....
todd (or anyone else who can help!) when i unzip the files they either come out as an .exe or an nb1 file, not a series of files. how do i get the files separated? and when you say 'click on the and enjoy' click on what?
we are trying to unlock and or dump the rom on the treo 750v. this is a newly released treo made by htc. the treo has an awesome feature called theeaded sms which does chat style sms.
we have tried the grab it program that was on this site with no luck.
does anyone no of a way to get this done? does any have any ideas of why the grab it program doesn't work. does anyone want to help?
thanks, cody
So far we've manage to get someone to try the grab_it tool from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=238945
But they are getting a write error. I assumed since the Treo 750v uses a mini-sd card the appropriate version of grab_it would be grab_it_128_minisd_468.exe. I'm trying to get someone to try the grab_it_128_150.exe version to see if that works, since that is the version BeyondTheTech used to extract the Treo 700w rom. The 700w uses a regular sd card though.
I asked the guy that tried grab_it_128_minisd_468.exe what the storage card folder name was set to and they verified that the registry was set to "Storage Card". So it's unclear to me why they are getting a write error. Maybe the minisd version expects something else? The card used was a 2GB minisd so it should have plenty of room for the rom.
Anyone familiar with grab_it know what is different about the minisd version? I read through the thread but it wasn't clear to me what the difference is.
Ok, I'm the one who's run the grabit tool on a 750v
It runs Ok and creates a 128Mb dump.bin file but the file appears to be mostly empty. If I zip the file up it only takes 147Kb which seems to confirm this. Am I doing something wrong or is it a bug in the tool
i have hope 750v user and appreciate your efforts
750v_User said:
Ok, I'm the one who's run the grabit tool on a 750v
It runs Ok and creates a 128Mb dump.bin file but the file appears to be mostly empty. If I zip the file up it only takes 147Kb which seems to confirm this. Am I doing something wrong or is it a bug in the tool
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Can you upload the bin file please. I think someone here may be able to figure this out by looking at the contents of it.
If anyone has a source for a unlocked 750v let me know i really need one.
File and registry dump.
750v_User said:
Ok, I'm the one who's run the grabit tool on a 750v
It runs Ok and creates a 128Mb dump.bin file but the file appears to be mostly empty. If I zip the file up it only takes 147Kb which seems to confirm this. Am I doing something wrong or is it a bug in the tool
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Hi, please can you do me favor? I have idea which can help us get SMS threading application and other palm features as well. If isn't possible dump ROM in this moment can you download Total Commander (freeware) http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm and do following.
1, Create foder on memory card and go to the Total commander.
2, go to the root of your device and copy to SD everything what is possible specially from Windows folder and Program Files (rest will be fine as well)
- this will take some time and in case of problem with file just skip that file.
3, When this will be done please go into the "\\" in the root and then to "registry"
4, now select registry tree one by one and copy again to card.
This will give us most probably files which will be required for hack and registry keys which will be required as well i think.
Thank you very much for your help.
Here's a zipped up copy of the dump.bin file, hope it helps
I extracted that dump.bin and it looks like a 256 byte block of data that is repeated at each 16 meg boundary 8 times.
Does this ring any bells to the experts?
The only readable text is "CHEETAH IPL EVT".
wow! that's great!
I don't have a Cheetah, but there's some info on the hermes forum that might be of interest to you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1019171&postcount=22
750v_User please try this program to extract the rom image.
unzip and copy TestDump.exe to your device and run it. In the "Path to file" enter the path for the dump file (i.e. \Storage Card\dump.bin). In the "Mbytes to dump" enter 128. Then press the "Dump" button. It should make a dump of the ROM file.
Zip it up and upload here. Thanks!
pof said:
I don't have a Cheetah, but there's some info on the hermes forum that might be of interest to you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1019171&postcount=22
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Thanks. That post appears to be for updating the rom. I wonder if there is some key combo like this to extract the rom.
hannip said:
Thanks. That post appears to be for updating the rom. I wonder if there is some key combo like this to extract the rom.
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Based on the Hermes experience, there's no knonw way yet to extract it in a form that after is flashable on another device, but you can follow these instructions to dump some parts:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoDumpRom
You can also use pmemdump to copy some of the ROM contents to a file. Once you've dumped SPL you can search for strings on it and you'll see the bootloader commands.
HTC has removed all the "d2s, s2d, r2sd..." and like commands in the hermes bootloader, probably you are lucky and you have some command to dump the rom to sd in your bootloader.
Hope that helps
The ROM dump // extract discussion is over my head...one question though has anyone sorted out how to unlock this device?
codyppc said:
we are trying to unlock and or dump the rom on the treo 750v. this is a newly released treo made by htc. the treo has an awesome feature called theeaded sms which does chat style sms.
we have tried the grab it program that was on this site with no luck.
does anyone no of a way to get this done? does any have any ideas of why the grab it program doesn't work. does anyone want to help?
thanks, cody
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im just a noob but cant we use the combination of StyleTap and AdvBackup to create a complete rom backup of the treo 750v and then grab what we want from that?
will that work????
just tryin to help........
what if someone get the .nbh file..can that be extracted??
750v ROM dump uploaded
I put a rom dump from the TestDump.exe tool on ftp.xda-developers.com. userid: xdaupload pw: xda
file: treo750v_dump_rom.zip
I used the dumprom tool to extract files, but it looks like it's only extracting the first rom section it finds and stops. Can one of the experts take a look at the dump and see if you can extract the other sections please.
Thanks.
What are you getting from the first rom section?
Sounds weird... was the dump complete?
It looked like a bunch of system files. The kernel, img.dll, filesystem drivers and the like.
There is 59MB of data in the dump so there has to be more stuff in there.
Does anyone know where i can find a listing of the at&t cab files in the windows directory that are installed during the initial start-up? Im just looking to see which cab files install was, such as the mall, or music, for example. Not that i plan on needing them but after searching the internet for a couple days now it would be nice to learn how to bring the phone back to at&t specs. Thanks.
Greg
You can hard reset and not skip the bloat or you can go into the windows directory and sort the files by their type.
But what if you want a couple at&t programs on there?
Greg
behrouz said:
go into the windows directory and sort the files by their type.
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1. Open up File Explorer
2. Go to the /Windows directory
3. Sort files by type
4. Locate the .cab files
5. Choose which apps you want to install
If you are trying to bring the phone back to ATT spec (to sell or to send it back for support), the best way is to flash using an ATT stock ROM. They are posted on the ROM development forum, here is one on the front page. Since its an official ROM you dont have to mess with HardSPL or anything of that matter, it should just flash the phone.
If you are trying to get the best performance out of your Fuze, I would suggest flashing your phone with a custom ROM.
Does anyone know what type of a file a .nbh is and how to make it veiwable/modifiable. If there was a way that we can mod the NBH file that I believe would be the successful way of rooting the MyTouch 3G. I will be getting one of the production devices in a week or so anyone want to have anything dumped let me know.
the nbh is a ROM and you can't flash it without a modified SPL. i'm not even sure the SPL used for android even supports the file type but any kitchen from winmo can decompile it
Not really so much an android thing but is a hardware thing of HTC. The Dream and Sappihre support these files. There is a NBH file which will take you all the way back to RC29 and also flashes back the original SPL as well. So it is my belief that if we can make a compatible NBH for the sapphire it will accomplish the end result.
Of course it will... That's what NBH files are made for. I don't think you can make one since it's signed (or something) with a key we don't have.
Ehh, i have an idea:
Some has to decompile .nbh and modify it to work on mytouch 3g.
Than you have to create a goldcard.. not sure about if viperbjk is putting sapphire into qmat..
Yeh I have tried to decode with hex editor and have not had any real luck with it at all. Looks coded. Just wondering if anyone knows how to decode would be greatly appreciated. I have tried to use some of the old Windows mobile kitchen tools.
There are lots of tools to extract NBH files, they should work if HTC hasn't changed anything...look for other devices kitchens and you'll find the tools.
Also there's a project which tries to achieve the same result under linux http://code.google.com/p/htc-flasher/.
where did you guys get an android nbh? this is odd because android is updated by placing and update.zip on the root of the sd card (among other ways) which is handled by the SPL. why wouldn't HTC just stick with nbh then?
sammypwns said:
where did you guys get an android nbh? this is odd because android is updated by placing and update.zip on the root of the sd card (among other ways) which is handled by the SPL. why wouldn't HTC just stick with nbh then?
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android is updated by .zip but NBH is an all in one image type file that flashes htc phones to factory defaults. its usually used by the support techs to restore phones.
android/google=zip
htc =nbh
tripledes said:
There are lots of tools to extract NBH files, they should work if HTC hasn't changed anything...look for other devices kitchens and you'll find the tools.
Also there's a project which tries to achieve the same result under linux http://code.google.com/p/htc-flasher/.
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this looks promising...i wonder if we can figure out how to resign it....
Hi,
I have just tested the HTC-Flasher and unfortunately it does not work with the DREAIMG.nbh
So i someone know how to extract and re-flash the dream NBH please help.
Bye
Herc. 8)
ok im kind of a newb still when it comes to HTC/wm and i've search around and cant find the answer.... anyways i've been tryin to find out how to install these for my HTC TD2
the link to it is - http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nuePowernueBattery.aspx
any help would be appreciated tyvm XD
It seems to me that file inside archive should be renamed to battdrvr.dll and placed into Windows folder replacing original one. But I don’t want to experiment with my device.
that cant be the only thing i have to do right?
It’s pretty weird to make something then have no installation instructions because I have no idea how to install it correctly >.<
It says on the site that there are 2 one for CDMA and one for GSM phones so I downloaded the GSM one since my provider is rogers = GSM/3G which came with a dll but is that all I need for the 1% increment and the FastCharge mode? Do I need to install the nuePowerCPL? And I tried installing the cab but nothing appeared so I downloaded the OEM package and dragged it into program files but that didn’t do anything either so I’m very confused.
anyone?
You have to put .dll in windows directory (and to be sure in app's directory) and install CPL (cab version, OEM is for ROM cooks).
theres also a batt dll in that folder i forgot the name but its not the same as the nuebattery one do i replace that one with the nuebattery dll or just copy it in?