Hi there i live in the UK and im looking for spare parts to fix my Broken XDA II. I need to replace the charger / usb port and was wondering if any knows where i can get these parts from so that i can fix it my self. I would rather buy and fix the parts my self than paying some one else to do it for me as this costs me a fortune.
Many thks for your help.
I also need these parts repaired. Oh yes and Proporta can't do it so save yourself £15. Please let me know if you find someone who can!
well ive emailed loads of repair places and they havent got back to me. I am curreenly trying to bid on some broken phones on ebay but ppl just keep going to high on there prices.
maybe ill get lucky.
try www.merconline.co.uk
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Just make sure not to use PDASMART. They are not reliable at all.
I posted the same question few months ago, and I was told to contact merconline. I wrote them an e-mail, but still haven't received an answer.
If anyone knows where can we purchase that bottom connector, we will be very thankful.
cheers,
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Hi everyone,
I just googled a little, and found this web sites that sell spare parts:
http://www.ipaqrepair.co.uk/view_product.php?product=554
This site is for ipaq's but can anyone confirm that we can use this connector for our qtek's/imate's/xda's etc???
Also, this is even better option:
http://www.imate-shop.com/product_info.php?currency=USD&products_id=39
I beleive this is what we need, I wrote them an e-mail, to check if they ship worldwide.
cheers,
[email protected]
This is the IPAQ connector
This is from pinouts.ru
Can moderators confirm that this means the 22-pin connector from the ipaq 3800 can be used in the qtek2020
http://pinouts.ru/data/pda_wallaby_pinout.shtml
Wallaby and Himalaya come with two connectors on the bottom. Also for MDA, XDA, Eurotel DataPhone.
22 pin male Himalaya special connector layout
22 pin male Himalaya special connector at the PDA (keypad up)
The connector pinout
1 CAR_MIC_IN
2 GND / SENSE
3 CAR_AUDIO_R
4 CAR_AUDIO_L
5 ANALOG GND
6 RS232_DCD
7 RS232_CTS
8 RS232_TXD
9 RS232_RTS
10 RS232_RXD
11 RS232_DTR
12 NC
13 USB_VDD
14 UDC+
15 UDC-
16 GND
17 GND
18 GND
19 CAR_ON#
20 V_ADP
21 V_ADP
22 V_ADP
Notes:
CAR_ON# is connected to +6V/+5V on the car charger, it"s not connected in the cradle. +6V/+5V makes the phone go to speaker mode immediately when picked up or dialing. When this pin is connected to ground, the internal mike and speaker are turned off, and audio input is taken from the audio input pin on the connector, for use in real car kits.
Pin 2 GND / SENSE is not necessary. it seems that if it"s grounded, the phone hangs up when placed in a DIY Car-holder for example. - leave it unconnected.
Pin 5 ANALOG GND - connect this to your sound Input/output-GND (Speaker/Microphone) - do not connect this with the other GND"s - it makes a lot of noise on the analog input/outputs. Audio needs to be capacitively coupled in, any DC bias seems to inhibit audio.
If RS232_DCD is pulled to +6V/+5V, the device turns on and ActiveSync is started. The serial port powers down and needs to be reopened after the device goes in power-save mode.
USB power also wakes up the device and starts ActiveSync. UDC+ and UDC- are the USB data connections. One person reported measuring them the other way around.
Cable to plug into computer
This is the cable you need to talk to the Wallaby or Himalaya serially from a computer, such as is needed with our Manipulator program or for using ActiveSync through the serial port. Techies like us call it a "null-modem cable", O2 describes it as a "serial hotsync cable". Optionally, if you wish to be able to power/charge to XDA while using this cable, you could hook up a female connector that mates with the connector on your power adapter between Ground (pins 2,5,etc. on XDA) and pins 20,21 and 22 on the XDA. Make sure the center conductor on the power connector goes to pins 20,21 and 22.
Wallaby /
Himalaya 9-pin connector
(male)
2,5,16,17,18 5 (gnd)
6 (dcd) 4 (dtr)
7 (cts) 7 (rts)
8 (txd) 2 (rxd)
9 (rts) 8 (cts)
10 (rxd) 3 (txd)
11 (dtr) 6,1 (dsr, dcd)
Cable to plug into modem or GPS
This cable will connect to devices which come with a cable to plug into a PC serial port, such as a modem. If you are connecting to a device that only uses RX, TX and GND (such as many GPS receivers), you may only need the wires which connect to pins 2, 3 and 5 on the 9-pin serial connector. And you can, optionally, hook up a charging interface in the same way as described above.
Wallaby /
Himalaya 9-pin connector
(female)
2,5,16,17,18 5 (gnd)
6 (dcd) 1 (dcd)
7 (cts) 8 (cts)
8 (txd) 3 (txd)
9 (rts) 7 (rts)
10 (rxd) 2 (rxd)
11 (dtr) 4 (dtr)
Modifying iPaq accessories
Using the pinout of the XDA connector, you can now modify iPaq accessories to fit the Wallaby or Himalaya.
Wallaby /
Himalaya iPaq
36xx or 37xx iPaq
38xx or newer
2,5,16,17,18 (gnd) 4,10 10,15,22
6 (dcd) 9 6
(or 11, see below)
7 (cts) 5 13
8 (txd) 7 8
9 (rts) 6 12
10 (rxd) 8 7
11 (dtr) 3 9
14 (udc+) 11 19
15 (udc-) 12 21
20,21,22 (power) 1,2 1,2,3,4
ATC
any1 gt any updates on this ?
Charger/ usb connector Repair
All,
I had the same problem myself...i had several quotes, and finally went with Expansys ( see PDA repair on their website). It takes about 2-3 weeks although they do say up to 6 weeks. the cost was about £50 in total inc postage and VAT. :lol:
can you provide a link for the repair site on expansys or maybe e-mail conact.
10x
ATC
www.expansys.co.uk
there are links to different countries on this site.
use the site search, and search for pda repair
hope this is of some use
thanks. will check it out
cheers
Hi all, and happy holidays
I finally received the part ordered from ipaqrepairs.co.uk, cost was 10 pounds and then another 10euros for replacement of the connector, but I got my Himalaya now up and running
I guess this is the cheapest way for everyone with this problem, so check it out
My details are:
Qtek 2020
Microsoft Pocket 2003
ROM Version 1.72.00WWE
ROM Date: 03/15/04
Radio Version: 1.14.00
Protocol Versioin: 1337.24
ExtROM Version: 1.72.601
What do you guys think I should upgrade to get a faster, more stable and more reliable device, huh?
Thank for your inputs,
ATC
Hi there... i had the same problem.... my device felt down to the ground...
Could u please take a look at my post and tell me if i can repair my Qtek2020 (Himalaya) buying the piece from ipaq repair???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42576
Is every electric technician able to solder that connector???
In this case i saved my device i think!!!!
Thanks in advance.... best regards
Mindgap
check your thread
good luck
Sync/Charge Port Repair
Hi,
I need a Sync/Charge Port Repair
If I purchase a new connector from here:
http://www.ipaqrepair.co.uk/view_product.php?product=554
can anyone close to me with the soldering skills and experience
fit it for me?
I am in the North East in Stockton-On-Tees, I'm quite happy to drive right up to Leeds Area (South) or Newcastle Areas (North)
mobile 07968 819209 msn [email protected]
HEEEELLP!
Don't worry man, just order the part and anyone with basic soldering skills can do it. any service repair center can fix it for ya in no time.
good luck
jspasatc said:
Don't worry man, just order the part and anyone with basic soldering skills can do it. any service repair center can fix it for ya in no time.
good luck
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I'd feel better in doing this on my xda 2 if there were some pictures
of taking the thing apart to illustrate rather then working blind.
like what's up with that void sticker under the battery?
Have you got pics or a sync/charge socket replacement repair being done?
What quality of soldering tools do you need? fine?
heellp!
Hello.
I was given a couple of magicians to play with. Apart from the other problems here is one i can't seem to solve.
The device that is usable has a rather serious problem with its usb connector.
Although it can be used to charge the magician it cannot connect to the PC.
Through linux lsusb says that there is no device connected and in Windows that there has been some kind of problem with a usb device, unplug replug and so on.
I checked out all five pins of the connector ,and all make contact with the cable.
So i went further inside.
Holding the motherboard, battery and switch on one hand i getting some help from my brother i was able to get some weird voltage indications.
Here goes nothing
Mini usb sends voltage through the far left connection. 5 volts go through there.. However once we connect the cable to the magician, that changes.Checking the voltages on the five connections , exactly at the spot they go in the "motherboard" here are the multimeter readings i got.
Lets name the 5 connections 1 2 3 4 5 with 1 being the one that carries the charging voltage.
OK so 1 reads 4,9 volts, all nice here.
3 and 5 give zero on both devices.
4 gives 2,3 volts on both devices.
2 however is a different story. On the device that is fully operable but does not connect i get a 2,3 volt reading. On the other device i get 0.
That's about it.
Is there anybody in here that can tell me what is going on? And how i can possibly fix it?
THanks in advance
Well please allow me to enlighten you.
It is highly probable that the veeryyyy long lack of use of the magician led to everything being deregulated (i don't know if my terms are making an sense).
Even the internal battery was dead and it took some work(new one in da house) to get it back. After a full charge and a few hours i can finally use the usb connection...
Hi guys...!!!
I got a bit excited seeing my normal micro usb cable works with the touch pro. I just plugged it in for fun but it actually detected the cable and even my pc recognised the touch pro...
Did you guys know about it???
Just thought of sharing this piece of info with you all...
akash_nu said:
Did you guys know about it???
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yes... lol
thanks anyway!
Worked with all of the HTC devices I've used so far (Universal, Kaiser, Artemis, and Raphael) - still good to mention, though.
ROFL!!
And BTW: It's MiniUSB, not MicroUSB.
this must be a joke..seriously lol
the htc usb plug (the 3 way audio/charger/tvout) isc alled a "non standard mini usb" and your normal mini usb is a "standard" the only function the non standard plug utilizes is all the audio/headset controls (the bottom 5 pins) while he top 4 (associated with the standard mini usb functions) control the + and - voltages and data transfer. so one would naturally assume and realize that ANY mini usb would work And the fact that the wall charger that comes with any htc device utlizes the standard mini usb design so its a no brainer..
Sorry, dint know that you all knew about it... Lol...
is this your first htc device?
It's the simple things we take for granted...
Yeah this is my 1st HTC device... I am still learning and just reading and getting to know this beast slowly... Lol...
HTC has a different name for it, they call it: HTC ExtUSB™!
Besides the PRO, the other PDA that I had was the Qtek S200 and it had a "normal" miniUSB connection.
n00b.
hey, guess what...I can press buttons on the screen with my finger!
(sorry dude, don't mean to offend you or anything really......its just that such posts are hard to come by and its beyond my ability to control the evil side in me)
Akash,
I can understand your surprise. I remember just a few HTC devices ago, (maybe the SX66), you had to know the pinout for the cable for the exact device. To make matters worse, many different cables with the same looking connector, had opposing pinouts. So you could actually fry your device plugging in a lookalike cable.
So remember, don't be afraid to jump in on any topic here.
I'm trying to get mini-USB cables from monoprice... how many pins does the mini-B connector have?
monoprice has 4 pin, 5 pin, 8 pin, 14 pin usb->mini b cables.
A similar question has been asked on modaco but I don't think a solution was found. Therefore I am going to ask if this would work here.
Is it possible to connect a micro usb (male) to mini usb (female) adapter up to this thing (HTC 4 in 1 adapter: I can't post link because I am a new user but just search it on youtube). This would connect to the tg01 micro usb and provide a 3.5 mm audio out in addition to a mini usb connection where one could potentially hook up a charger. I was thinking of testing this out as it would cost about 10-15 dollars but I do not want to damage my phone in the process. I have no electrical engineering knowledge but maybe someone else can explain if this would work before I order anything.
On a side note: I order samsung WEP870 bluetooth headphones on sale as an alternative to this. Note sure how sound quality is but I will try answer any questions you guys might have.
Any input is welcome.
mobius8 said:
Is it possible to connect a micro usb (male) to mini usb (female) adapter up to this thing (HTC 4 in 1 adapter: I can't post link because I am a new user but just search it on youtube). This would connect to the tg01 micro usb and provide a 3.5 mm audio out in addition to a mini usb connection where one could potentially hook up a charger.
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I was heavily involved in the discussion running on MoDaCo you refered to; unfortunately there has been no breakthrough on this issue to date.
I did look into the the HTC adapter you mention, but it actually uses the proprietary HTC ExtUSB plug on the input end (connecting to the phone) and NOT a normal mini-USB. The ExtUSB has 11 pins which include a discrete audio output (being used to feed the 3.5mm jack socket) and also hard-wired power (used to accept the charger input).
In the case of the TG01 uUSB socket, it is too 'intelligent' for its own good. Every function, charging, audio out, USB data transfer, etc., is under procesor control. Different functions are triggered by the device 'seeing' a certain resistance across the sense pin and ground; depending on this the processor then configures the use of the socket pins accordingly.
I am after what you are trying to achieve also; there is a chip supposedly available which is intended to fulfil exactly this functionality, but I've been unable to find any devices on the market which use it and attempts to contact the manufacturer with a view to getting a few samples to try and build an interface have so far been unsuccessful.
I've attached a couple of documents which explain the uUSB Charger Adapter and also the chip spec sheet for reference.
View attachment MC34825.zip View attachment batt_charging_1_1.zip
If anyone else knows anything to help move this one forward, will be much appreciated !
Thanks for the nice explanation,
Hopefully one day there will be an adapter that can make this possible.
Hi guys,
I bricked my G1 recently and am going to try to Unbrick using the guide on cyanogen's wiki.
One requirement is the debug serial cable, but here in India I haven't been able to get my hands on the ExtUSB breakout. I do have a mini usb breakout. Could I use that instead?
The pins I need are:
1 VCC
2 Ground
3 tx
4 rx
The pins available on the mini usb breakout are:
A +5V
B -Data
C +Data
D N/C
E Ground
Pretty obviously:
1 -> A
2 -> E
Goggling tx and rx, I think they mean data in and out but not sure. Anybody have any advice?
Unbrick guide on cyanogen:
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=JTAG_for_Dream/Magic
ExtUSB breakout:
sparkfun.com/products/9167
Post questions in the questions section!!!
ExtUSB is backwards compatible with mini USB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
I have several mini USB cables, some with a Type A male connector on the other end, others with a wall plug end, and still some with the cigarette lighter adapter end. They all work with the G1. The 2 extra pins on the ExtUSB are for sound only.
Xsite_01 said:
It's compatible just for charging and file tranfer but for serial interface are not compatible. You are accesing serial interface trough extra audio pins, so you can buy G1 headphones and make htc serial cable. Headphone yes, charger no.
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Ah, when I saw serial I thought, "why is he calling a USB cable by only part of it's name" (universal serial bus). I misunderstood the post and did not think he was talking about an actual serial/RS232 connection.
So as to try to contribute something to OP, have you tried looking at this? http://www.instructables.com/id/Android-G1-Serial-Cable/
I was doing some study connect my serial GPS (gives TTL level serial signals) to HTC P3400 WM. Found out about G1 cable in instructables and other materials that explained how to use serial ports in HTC mobiles. I came across a very cheap "adapter" in a roadside shop in Chennai - one end of this one goes into the mini usb and the other end provides a 3.5mm stereo audio jack. I grabbed one of them and surprised to find that it did not have the moulded rubber connector. I opened the plastic case and found that I can easily solder pins 7,8 and 9. I will be testing this over the week end!
Thanks for the info Xsite_01, i think i can find some headphones to cut up and give it a try.
If smpncrc's adaptor works, i'd love to get my hands on it in delhi.
Thanks for all the info guys