Hi there i live in the UK and im looking for spare parts to fix my Broken XDA II. I need to replace the charger / usb port and was wondering if any knows where i can get these parts from so that i can fix it my self. I would rather buy and fix the parts my self than paying some one else to do it for me as this costs me a fortune.
Many thks for your help.
I also need these parts repaired. Oh yes and Proporta can't do it so save yourself £15. Please let me know if you find someone who can!
well ive emailed loads of repair places and they havent got back to me. I am curreenly trying to bid on some broken phones on ebay but ppl just keep going to high on there prices.
maybe ill get lucky.
try www.merconline.co.uk
PDASMART Horror Story
Just make sure not to use PDASMART. They are not reliable at all.
I posted the same question few months ago, and I was told to contact merconline. I wrote them an e-mail, but still haven't received an answer.
If anyone knows where can we purchase that bottom connector, we will be very thankful.
cheers,
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Hi everyone,
I just googled a little, and found this web sites that sell spare parts:
http://www.ipaqrepair.co.uk/view_product.php?product=554
This site is for ipaq's but can anyone confirm that we can use this connector for our qtek's/imate's/xda's etc???
Also, this is even better option:
http://www.imate-shop.com/product_info.php?currency=USD&products_id=39
I beleive this is what we need, I wrote them an e-mail, to check if they ship worldwide.
cheers,
[email protected]
This is the IPAQ connector
This is from pinouts.ru
Can moderators confirm that this means the 22-pin connector from the ipaq 3800 can be used in the qtek2020
http://pinouts.ru/data/pda_wallaby_pinout.shtml
Wallaby and Himalaya come with two connectors on the bottom. Also for MDA, XDA, Eurotel DataPhone.
22 pin male Himalaya special connector layout
22 pin male Himalaya special connector at the PDA (keypad up)
The connector pinout
1 CAR_MIC_IN
2 GND / SENSE
3 CAR_AUDIO_R
4 CAR_AUDIO_L
5 ANALOG GND
6 RS232_DCD
7 RS232_CTS
8 RS232_TXD
9 RS232_RTS
10 RS232_RXD
11 RS232_DTR
12 NC
13 USB_VDD
14 UDC+
15 UDC-
16 GND
17 GND
18 GND
19 CAR_ON#
20 V_ADP
21 V_ADP
22 V_ADP
Notes:
CAR_ON# is connected to +6V/+5V on the car charger, it"s not connected in the cradle. +6V/+5V makes the phone go to speaker mode immediately when picked up or dialing. When this pin is connected to ground, the internal mike and speaker are turned off, and audio input is taken from the audio input pin on the connector, for use in real car kits.
Pin 2 GND / SENSE is not necessary. it seems that if it"s grounded, the phone hangs up when placed in a DIY Car-holder for example. - leave it unconnected.
Pin 5 ANALOG GND - connect this to your sound Input/output-GND (Speaker/Microphone) - do not connect this with the other GND"s - it makes a lot of noise on the analog input/outputs. Audio needs to be capacitively coupled in, any DC bias seems to inhibit audio.
If RS232_DCD is pulled to +6V/+5V, the device turns on and ActiveSync is started. The serial port powers down and needs to be reopened after the device goes in power-save mode.
USB power also wakes up the device and starts ActiveSync. UDC+ and UDC- are the USB data connections. One person reported measuring them the other way around.
Cable to plug into computer
This is the cable you need to talk to the Wallaby or Himalaya serially from a computer, such as is needed with our Manipulator program or for using ActiveSync through the serial port. Techies like us call it a "null-modem cable", O2 describes it as a "serial hotsync cable". Optionally, if you wish to be able to power/charge to XDA while using this cable, you could hook up a female connector that mates with the connector on your power adapter between Ground (pins 2,5,etc. on XDA) and pins 20,21 and 22 on the XDA. Make sure the center conductor on the power connector goes to pins 20,21 and 22.
Wallaby /
Himalaya 9-pin connector
(male)
2,5,16,17,18 5 (gnd)
6 (dcd) 4 (dtr)
7 (cts) 7 (rts)
8 (txd) 2 (rxd)
9 (rts) 8 (cts)
10 (rxd) 3 (txd)
11 (dtr) 6,1 (dsr, dcd)
Cable to plug into modem or GPS
This cable will connect to devices which come with a cable to plug into a PC serial port, such as a modem. If you are connecting to a device that only uses RX, TX and GND (such as many GPS receivers), you may only need the wires which connect to pins 2, 3 and 5 on the 9-pin serial connector. And you can, optionally, hook up a charging interface in the same way as described above.
Wallaby /
Himalaya 9-pin connector
(female)
2,5,16,17,18 5 (gnd)
6 (dcd) 1 (dcd)
7 (cts) 8 (cts)
8 (txd) 3 (txd)
9 (rts) 7 (rts)
10 (rxd) 2 (rxd)
11 (dtr) 4 (dtr)
Modifying iPaq accessories
Using the pinout of the XDA connector, you can now modify iPaq accessories to fit the Wallaby or Himalaya.
Wallaby /
Himalaya iPaq
36xx or 37xx iPaq
38xx or newer
2,5,16,17,18 (gnd) 4,10 10,15,22
6 (dcd) 9 6
(or 11, see below)
7 (cts) 5 13
8 (txd) 7 8
9 (rts) 6 12
10 (rxd) 8 7
11 (dtr) 3 9
14 (udc+) 11 19
15 (udc-) 12 21
20,21,22 (power) 1,2 1,2,3,4
ATC
any1 gt any updates on this ?
Charger/ usb connector Repair
All,
I had the same problem myself...i had several quotes, and finally went with Expansys ( see PDA repair on their website). It takes about 2-3 weeks although they do say up to 6 weeks. the cost was about £50 in total inc postage and VAT. :lol:
can you provide a link for the repair site on expansys or maybe e-mail conact.
10x
ATC
www.expansys.co.uk
there are links to different countries on this site.
use the site search, and search for pda repair
hope this is of some use
thanks. will check it out
cheers
Hi all, and happy holidays
I finally received the part ordered from ipaqrepairs.co.uk, cost was 10 pounds and then another 10euros for replacement of the connector, but I got my Himalaya now up and running
I guess this is the cheapest way for everyone with this problem, so check it out
My details are:
Qtek 2020
Microsoft Pocket 2003
ROM Version 1.72.00WWE
ROM Date: 03/15/04
Radio Version: 1.14.00
Protocol Versioin: 1337.24
ExtROM Version: 1.72.601
What do you guys think I should upgrade to get a faster, more stable and more reliable device, huh?
Thank for your inputs,
ATC
Hi there... i had the same problem.... my device felt down to the ground...
Could u please take a look at my post and tell me if i can repair my Qtek2020 (Himalaya) buying the piece from ipaq repair???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42576
Is every electric technician able to solder that connector???
In this case i saved my device i think!!!!
Thanks in advance.... best regards
Mindgap
check your thread
good luck
Sync/Charge Port Repair
Hi,
I need a Sync/Charge Port Repair
If I purchase a new connector from here:
http://www.ipaqrepair.co.uk/view_product.php?product=554
can anyone close to me with the soldering skills and experience
fit it for me?
I am in the North East in Stockton-On-Tees, I'm quite happy to drive right up to Leeds Area (South) or Newcastle Areas (North)
mobile 07968 819209 msn [email protected]
HEEEELLP!
Don't worry man, just order the part and anyone with basic soldering skills can do it. any service repair center can fix it for ya in no time.
good luck
jspasatc said:
Don't worry man, just order the part and anyone with basic soldering skills can do it. any service repair center can fix it for ya in no time.
good luck
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I'd feel better in doing this on my xda 2 if there were some pictures
of taking the thing apart to illustrate rather then working blind.
like what's up with that void sticker under the battery?
Have you got pics or a sync/charge socket replacement repair being done?
What quality of soldering tools do you need? fine?
heellp!
Related
Does anyone know if there is a cable available to use the XDA II with this brand of car kit. I have searched around but cant seem to find any info.
THere are still no connector from Mr. Handsfree so I made my own one !
have a look here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5676&highlight=handsfree
Nice ! Did you make a 2,5mm to a RJ45 (?) cable ?
If you could please post the pin layout of the Mr. Handsfree, if have some Nokia 8110 headsets i can use the 2,5mm plugs from....
Mr. Handsfree
Here are a .jpg with the pin layout of the converterbox for Mr. Handsfree.
The diagram is not complete, but this is not important as it is only the pin connections which are important.
The right side is the RJ 45 plug's wire colors and the left is the plug for the phone.
If your 8110 has the 2.5mm jack connector then I will guess it is connected to pin 3,4 & 5 on the phone side of the converter.
My Nokia 6210 has a different connector than the 8110.
I dont think it is a good idea to connect the MDA directly to the RJ45 connector as there was some noise generated from the phone. The noise disappered when the MDA was connected on the phone side of the converterbox.
At some point in time there will most likely be an "Original" connector from MR. handsfree with charging capabilities but for now we have to DIY.
BTW. I tried to update my phone with the latest ROM and the sound was lost through the connector, so I am back to version 1.03.00.
Good luck with the project.
xda orbit to nokia 6310 hands free conversion
Hi BOB. I have an xda phone and a nokia 6310 state-of-the-art hands free in my car. I can be your guinea pig for conversion if you are willing to take a guess at the wiring mode. Just remember that xda uses same cable (usb 4 wire) for the hands free. Your help is much appreciated.
Cheers
Marius
Ok, I want to use the XDAII in the LandRover for mapping, it is noisy in the truck, I also want to play MP3 WMA files via the car stereo.
I have a Garmin eTrex but am willing to get something dedicated if the price is right.
I want a cradle for the XDAII that will hold it securly,
I want to power/charge the XDAII and GPS
I want to get the audio out of the bottom connector into the front of the stereo (3.5mm socket) for music play back (poss hands free phone too)
I still have various bits of hands free kit from when I used to fix 'carphones' in the early 90's. It would be nice if i can fit a mic in car for voice dial and calls too.
If the info on the tech page is correct on the bottom connector it would appear all is straight forward to do myself, However we all know for the cost of the parts I could by something that would do what i want and more. So what will do it. I am unsure on the XDA to XDAII connection compatability.
Current experiance of produced products is a duel universal mount from memory-map, the GPS fits fine but the XDAII just falls out, not good for £30
Cheers
Hi,
I wish the same thing that you. I would like to use the Xda2 with Land Rover Discovery for mapping together my Garmin 3+.
To do this maybe we have to make a serial and power cable or find someone who can make it.
I think the pinage for xda2 is slightly different than the xda1. In myxda.com they said: "Most accessories are not common to both except for the car charger".
If someone here can help us to know what the correct pinage for xda2 than we can make one.
Or we can buy a serial cable from O2 (I am oredering one now) and check what is the pinage used for it and mix with the car charger adapter.
what do you think about it?
Charger from xda1, serial cable, gps, usb cable (charging problem) all work with xda2, cradle also works but you need to shave a little off the inside or you will mark your xda2. I have an arkon cradle/speaker, 2 usb power jacks, speaker jack with 2.5 to 3.5 converter from xda1, this works with xda2 but the rf break through from the phone to the speaker in the cradle is atrocious, i wish I knew how to fix that problem because when you receive a call you have 10 seconds or more of rf noise before you get to hear or speak to the caller, other than that it is fine and comes with lots of different mounting options.
pinout
When I get chance Ill get my scope on the pins and work it out. Ive had my eTrex working, used the standard serial lead for the XDA2 and the eTrex, just made a null modem adapter to connect between em (info on memory map web site) Works well but you have to dissable beaming as i think they share the same comm port.
I was going to buy the eTrex connector to bare ends from Garmin but it doesn't carry power only data!!! typical. Have thought of getting one of the dedicated GPS units.
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead. Id rather not chop up the lead as it cost silly money.
Re: pinout
TDIPower said:
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead.
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...and your price for building these for every owner of an XDA2 (cos we're all going to want one! ) will be....?
Sounds like this would be accessory number 1 for anyone with an XDA2 and a car.
I've also got an eTrex, and I bought a serial/power Y-shaped cable last year for it, so they are available. It has a cigarette lighter plug to provide the power, and a serial output too for my laptop. Let me know if you need details - seems silly to buy a new GPS just because you can't get a combined data/power lead for it. It cost me £24 mail order, IIRC.
XDA connector
I need to find a UK supplier of the XDA connector, this would get the cost down. The easy way would be to buy the in car charger, strip it, mount the charger in the box, replace the cable with one that will do all the connections.
Ill try and play, get it set up and post somthing on here
Craddle for XDAII /MDAII
T-mobile germany sells one for €199, INCLUSIVE of sat nav software and wired mouse
Ready to mount
Re: pinout
Sorry. What is the meaning of PSU?
sublimatica said:
TDIPower said:
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead.
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...and your price for building these for every owner of an XDA2 (cos we're all going to want one! ) will be....?
Sounds like this would be accessory number 1 for anyone with an XDA2 and a car.
I've also got an eTrex, and I bought a serial/power Y-shaped cable last year for it, so they are available. It has a cigarette lighter plug to provide the power, and a serial output too for my laptop. Let me know if you need details - seems silly to buy a new GPS just because you can't get a combined data/power lead for it. It cost me £24 mail order, IIRC.
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PSU
PSU is short for Power Supply Unit. the bit that powers/charges the unit.
Sorry im not used to multi language conversation.
PSU
No problem!
I will learn a little bit every day
I am also currently looking at my options as like you TDIpower, I am trying to use the XDAII in a noisey landy.
I am interested in the parrot ck3000 which according to the blurb connects your phone etc via a bluetooth unit into your stereo unit. I have not looking into all the issues but I assume you would be able to use the phone/navigation and MP3 via this unit through the vehicle speakers to be able to hear whats going on? Mind you when I'm going a full tilt I can hardly hear the speakers either??
I know a couple of others on here have the parrot unit so mybe they could shed some light on this??
Cheers
sdio fm trasnmitor
i do not know if it is exist (sdio fm trasnmitor) but this will be a good solution for this case!
Hey,
Sorry to bring up old posts, but has anyone found a solution for Mount, Power, GPS (etrex) and Audio?
Dave
Have you seen this one ?
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD-SMGF1XDAII
A friend of mine bought one for his iPaq and it's brilliant, just like a cellphone cradle, slide it in, and you are ready to go.
Hi
What you are asking for is available, apart from the sound in the form of the carcomm cradle http://www.totalpda.co.uk/product4738_0.aspx.
According to the connector wiring on this site you should be abale to get sound from the bottom connector, but what the connector page fails to tell you is you only get sound out o fthe bottom connector during in a call, so its no use for MP3 or Navigation sounds. Currently I am using the jack plug which is a real pain to plug in. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=50643#50643
Re the Parrot CK3000, I have just taken one out of my car as it did not work with the XDA2 if you have installed bluetooth tools. And without bluetooth tools the bluetooth GPS device would not work. Also you cant currently send sound over bluetooth apart from when in a voice call.
If you find a solution to sound from the bottom connector please dont forget to post.
Good luck
JustinP
@justinp: There appears to be A way to get all sound from the bottom connector.
The T-Mobile MDAII Carkit (QTek2020 carkit and the Yeti carkit are the same make) do just that!
Unfortunately I have this (cheaper) XDAII / iMate (Expansys-sold like) carkit wich only give in-call audio via the bottom connector.
There is someting with pin19 and pin9 (I read on the german www.ppc-welt.info forum).
pin19 must be grounded
pin 9 must NOT be connected (it is on some carkits thus messing up proper operation).
Now if someone can verify this!!
:?:
Hi there,
I currently have a recently deceased ipaq 3630 with GPS cable, currently hardwired into my car (I just took the plastics off the plug, hard wired it to ground and ignition power and re-boxed it)
Anyways, I also have an Orange M1000 with 2 cradles, and I'm a cheap*ss mofo.... so what I'm basically planning on is:-
get pinouts for ipaq 3630
get pinouts for M1000 (I see they're in a post in this forum)
cut ipaq end off GPS cable and strip
cut usb end off M1000 cradle cable and strip
using multimeter buzz out the pin -> colour on each of the cables
wire together
glue (or duck tape or something) cradle into car
I'm working on the theory that the gps -> ipaq connection is going to have power and tx/rx which will be all I need for the gps, and that the M1000 cradle will have the same for activesync.
Anyone done this or similar, or does anyone think I'm just crazy?
Cheers
Doogie
Answering my own question because noone else did
The cradle I had was for USB not serial and I couldn't manage to get serial over USB option working in tomtom..... I opened the cradle (T6 driver), split the cable to leave the power going where it was but split out the 2 usb cables and I buzzed out some points on the board where there was connectivity to the 8 & 10 pins... little bit of soldering and reassembly and I now have a serial cradle with power that connects to my GPS..... now just need to make it look purty in my car
I opened thread with idea to make a RS 232 cable with communication between Himalaya and PC?! Because my connecotor form phone fell of and 13 and 14 pins on phone board are in contact (destroyed) the usb function is not possible and the first 4 pins and the last 22nd pin on the connector are crushed. So i decided to use rest of the pins to communicate with pc! I charge battery with some universal charger and i solved that question. But sync problem stays! I don't want to use bluethoot because it drains my battery and maybe sometimes i decide to flash my phone with other software and i can't do that with bluethoot! And transmission rate with rs232 is about 1,5 mbit/s till bluethoot is not faster that 512 kbit/s!
On the http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Connectors i saw that pins from 6 to 11 are for the rs232 communication. And i have female rs232 connector and half of a USB cable (but the half with male himalaya connector which is need) If i could use these two half to solder one serial cable for sync i will be happy! I found out that voltage on rs 232 is about 12v and i need about 5v, so i need something to transform this power! Sry for english...
If anyone have any idea, link... Or he done this before let me notify!
c'mon ppls! Is it possible that no one knows that answer! I searched the net and found a simple null modem cable with only 3 wires, Tx, Rx and GND!
Himalaya----------(rs232 DB9)-------Function
9---------------------3-----------------Rx----------Tx
8---------------------2-----------------Tx----------Rx
5---------------------5------------------Signal ground
What transfer speed i can expect from this?! This is the cable without handshaking communication!
And according to this
Wallaby /
Himalaya_______9-pin connector(male)
2,5,16,17,18-----5 (gnd)
6 (dcd)----------4 (dtr)
7 (cts)----------7 (rts)
8 (txd)----------2 (rxd)
9 (rts)-----------8 (cts)
10 (rxd)---------3 (txd)
11 (dtr)---------6,1 (dsr, dcd)
I will get a full handshaking communication with hi-speed transfer!
So what is a better choice? First i can do it by my own, but the second is a bigger job and requires more time!?
If your still working on this...
Why not just wire up a usb or mini usb socket to the himalaya?
Lot easier!
You didn't read my post good!!! Board pins are in conntact! So, the USB function is NOT possible! I finished this project at the time i wrote this, and everything work great. Bought a Serial to USB adapter with integrated max232 ciurcut, the wireing is exact same like i presented in my post. Full handshaking, max serial speed! But afterall, not satisfied with the transfer speed... I sold my phone about 2 months ago!!!
bulat666 said:
You didn't read my post good!!! Board pins are in conntact! So, the USB function is NOT possible! I finished this project at the time i wrote this, and everything work great. Bought a Serial to USB adapter with integrated max232 ciurcut, the wireing is exact same like i presented in my post. Full handshaking, max serial speed! But afterall, not satisfied with the transfer speed... I sold my phone about 2 months ago!!!
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So you don't have a wm device anymore?
No. I am looking for some tornado or S730! Wont prick with PDA anymore. I have a Hurricane, but it is unsable. Need jtag flashing. That hima brings me a plagues which i will never forget.
bulat666 said:
No. I am looking for some tornado or S730! Wont prick with PDA anymore. I have a Hurricane, but it is unsable. Need jtag flashing. That hima brings me a plagues which i will never forget.
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I had a s710 and it stopped reading sim cards.
Hi guys,
I bricked my G1 recently and am going to try to Unbrick using the guide on cyanogen's wiki.
One requirement is the debug serial cable, but here in India I haven't been able to get my hands on the ExtUSB breakout. I do have a mini usb breakout. Could I use that instead?
The pins I need are:
1 VCC
2 Ground
3 tx
4 rx
The pins available on the mini usb breakout are:
A +5V
B -Data
C +Data
D N/C
E Ground
Pretty obviously:
1 -> A
2 -> E
Goggling tx and rx, I think they mean data in and out but not sure. Anybody have any advice?
Unbrick guide on cyanogen:
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=JTAG_for_Dream/Magic
ExtUSB breakout:
sparkfun.com/products/9167
Post questions in the questions section!!!
ExtUSB is backwards compatible with mini USB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
I have several mini USB cables, some with a Type A male connector on the other end, others with a wall plug end, and still some with the cigarette lighter adapter end. They all work with the G1. The 2 extra pins on the ExtUSB are for sound only.
Xsite_01 said:
It's compatible just for charging and file tranfer but for serial interface are not compatible. You are accesing serial interface trough extra audio pins, so you can buy G1 headphones and make htc serial cable. Headphone yes, charger no.
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Ah, when I saw serial I thought, "why is he calling a USB cable by only part of it's name" (universal serial bus). I misunderstood the post and did not think he was talking about an actual serial/RS232 connection.
So as to try to contribute something to OP, have you tried looking at this? http://www.instructables.com/id/Android-G1-Serial-Cable/
I was doing some study connect my serial GPS (gives TTL level serial signals) to HTC P3400 WM. Found out about G1 cable in instructables and other materials that explained how to use serial ports in HTC mobiles. I came across a very cheap "adapter" in a roadside shop in Chennai - one end of this one goes into the mini usb and the other end provides a 3.5mm stereo audio jack. I grabbed one of them and surprised to find that it did not have the moulded rubber connector. I opened the plastic case and found that I can easily solder pins 7,8 and 9. I will be testing this over the week end!
Thanks for the info Xsite_01, i think i can find some headphones to cut up and give it a try.
If smpncrc's adaptor works, i'd love to get my hands on it in delhi.
Thanks for all the info guys