Modding cradle for GPS? - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Accessories

Hi there,
I currently have a recently deceased ipaq 3630 with GPS cable, currently hardwired into my car (I just took the plastics off the plug, hard wired it to ground and ignition power and re-boxed it)
Anyways, I also have an Orange M1000 with 2 cradles, and I'm a cheap*ss mofo.... so what I'm basically planning on is:-
get pinouts for ipaq 3630
get pinouts for M1000 (I see they're in a post in this forum)
cut ipaq end off GPS cable and strip
cut usb end off M1000 cradle cable and strip
using multimeter buzz out the pin -> colour on each of the cables
wire together
glue (or duck tape or something) cradle into car
I'm working on the theory that the gps -> ipaq connection is going to have power and tx/rx which will be all I need for the gps, and that the M1000 cradle will have the same for activesync.
Anyone done this or similar, or does anyone think I'm just crazy?
Cheers
Doogie

Answering my own question because noone else did
The cradle I had was for USB not serial and I couldn't manage to get serial over USB option working in tomtom..... I opened the cradle (T6 driver), split the cable to leave the power going where it was but split out the 2 usb cables and I buzzed out some points on the board where there was connectivity to the 8 & 10 pins... little bit of soldering and reassembly and I now have a serial cradle with power that connects to my GPS..... now just need to make it look purty in my car

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Haicom HI-203e / XDA2 Cable for Tomtom

Hi,
title says it all really... I damaged my cable. As I still have the Haicom receiver, I still want to use it.
I can't find this cable anywhere.
The cable in question is the in car charger cable for the XDA/XDA2 but also connects the GPS receiver to the XDA. The connection to the Haicom HI-203e is a PS/2 connector (same as older mouse or keyboard).
If anyone knows where I can get one of the in the UK i'd appreciate it if you could let me know where.....
XDA2 is a cool tool...
Sno...
try:
http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk/allprods.php?compared_products=&page=1&category_id=12
or ebay sellers usually sell them for £20
Or if your capable with a soldering iron you can make yourself one
http://www.vanhemert.biz/Car_Kit_GPS_Connection.htm
HTH
Neil
tried it...
Thanks Swifty.
Tried to do this but used a incar charger instead of the car kit.
Didn't work.
The HI-203e was getting power but not enough...
I think the resistor in the car charger must be bigger than the one in the proper cable...
And, I have also tried to find this cable on Ebay...
Impossible, if anyone does find one tho let me know.
I have scoured the Internet trying to find this cable with NO joy...
Sno
phone up GPS systems and ask...... :roll:
Sno, you can always grab a universal incar ciggy adaptor from maplin or similar, they are only £7 then just set the dial to 5Volts (or whatever the 203 needs) then put the + and - cables onto the cable you made, obviously you will need a ciggy lighter splitter for your car, so that you can use your charge cable, and gps @ the same time. Or grab yourself a female lighter socket and cable it upto your battery..
..got it...
managed to find it @
http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk
cheers...
Sno

Mount, Power, GPS and Audio

Ok, I want to use the XDAII in the LandRover for mapping, it is noisy in the truck, I also want to play MP3 WMA files via the car stereo.
I have a Garmin eTrex but am willing to get something dedicated if the price is right.
I want a cradle for the XDAII that will hold it securly,
I want to power/charge the XDAII and GPS
I want to get the audio out of the bottom connector into the front of the stereo (3.5mm socket) for music play back (poss hands free phone too)
I still have various bits of hands free kit from when I used to fix 'carphones' in the early 90's. It would be nice if i can fit a mic in car for voice dial and calls too.
If the info on the tech page is correct on the bottom connector it would appear all is straight forward to do myself, However we all know for the cost of the parts I could by something that would do what i want and more. So what will do it. I am unsure on the XDA to XDAII connection compatability.
Current experiance of produced products is a duel universal mount from memory-map, the GPS fits fine but the XDAII just falls out, not good for £30
Cheers
Hi,
I wish the same thing that you. I would like to use the Xda2 with Land Rover Discovery for mapping together my Garmin 3+.
To do this maybe we have to make a serial and power cable or find someone who can make it.
I think the pinage for xda2 is slightly different than the xda1. In myxda.com they said: "Most accessories are not common to both except for the car charger".
If someone here can help us to know what the correct pinage for xda2 than we can make one.
Or we can buy a serial cable from O2 (I am oredering one now) and check what is the pinage used for it and mix with the car charger adapter.
what do you think about it?
Charger from xda1, serial cable, gps, usb cable (charging problem) all work with xda2, cradle also works but you need to shave a little off the inside or you will mark your xda2. I have an arkon cradle/speaker, 2 usb power jacks, speaker jack with 2.5 to 3.5 converter from xda1, this works with xda2 but the rf break through from the phone to the speaker in the cradle is atrocious, i wish I knew how to fix that problem because when you receive a call you have 10 seconds or more of rf noise before you get to hear or speak to the caller, other than that it is fine and comes with lots of different mounting options.
pinout
When I get chance Ill get my scope on the pins and work it out. Ive had my eTrex working, used the standard serial lead for the XDA2 and the eTrex, just made a null modem adapter to connect between em (info on memory map web site) Works well but you have to dissable beaming as i think they share the same comm port.
I was going to buy the eTrex connector to bare ends from Garmin but it doesn't carry power only data!!! typical. Have thought of getting one of the dedicated GPS units.
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead. Id rather not chop up the lead as it cost silly money.
Re: pinout
TDIPower said:
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead.
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...and your price for building these for every owner of an XDA2 (cos we're all going to want one! ) will be....?
Sounds like this would be accessory number 1 for anyone with an XDA2 and a car.
I've also got an eTrex, and I bought a serial/power Y-shaped cable last year for it, so they are available. It has a cigarette lighter plug to provide the power, and a serial output too for my laptop. Let me know if you need details - seems silly to buy a new GPS just because you can't get a combined data/power lead for it. It cost me £24 mail order, IIRC.
XDA connector
I need to find a UK supplier of the XDA connector, this would get the cost down. The easy way would be to buy the in car charger, strip it, mount the charger in the box, replace the cable with one that will do all the connections.
Ill try and play, get it set up and post somthing on here
Craddle for XDAII /MDAII
T-mobile germany sells one for €199, INCLUSIVE of sat nav software and wired mouse
Ready to mount
Re: pinout
Sorry. What is the meaning of PSU?
sublimatica said:
TDIPower said:
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead.
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...and your price for building these for every owner of an XDA2 (cos we're all going to want one! ) will be....?
Sounds like this would be accessory number 1 for anyone with an XDA2 and a car.
I've also got an eTrex, and I bought a serial/power Y-shaped cable last year for it, so they are available. It has a cigarette lighter plug to provide the power, and a serial output too for my laptop. Let me know if you need details - seems silly to buy a new GPS just because you can't get a combined data/power lead for it. It cost me £24 mail order, IIRC.
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PSU
PSU is short for Power Supply Unit. the bit that powers/charges the unit.
Sorry im not used to multi language conversation.
PSU
No problem!
I will learn a little bit every day
I am also currently looking at my options as like you TDIpower, I am trying to use the XDAII in a noisey landy.
I am interested in the parrot ck3000 which according to the blurb connects your phone etc via a bluetooth unit into your stereo unit. I have not looking into all the issues but I assume you would be able to use the phone/navigation and MP3 via this unit through the vehicle speakers to be able to hear whats going on? Mind you when I'm going a full tilt I can hardly hear the speakers either??
I know a couple of others on here have the parrot unit so mybe they could shed some light on this??
Cheers
sdio fm trasnmitor
i do not know if it is exist (sdio fm trasnmitor) but this will be a good solution for this case!
Hey,
Sorry to bring up old posts, but has anyone found a solution for Mount, Power, GPS (etrex) and Audio?
Dave
Have you seen this one ?
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD-SMGF1XDAII
A friend of mine bought one for his iPaq and it's brilliant, just like a cellphone cradle, slide it in, and you are ready to go.
Hi
What you are asking for is available, apart from the sound in the form of the carcomm cradle http://www.totalpda.co.uk/product4738_0.aspx.
According to the connector wiring on this site you should be abale to get sound from the bottom connector, but what the connector page fails to tell you is you only get sound out o fthe bottom connector during in a call, so its no use for MP3 or Navigation sounds. Currently I am using the jack plug which is a real pain to plug in. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=50643#50643
Re the Parrot CK3000, I have just taken one out of my car as it did not work with the XDA2 if you have installed bluetooth tools. And without bluetooth tools the bluetooth GPS device would not work. Also you cant currently send sound over bluetooth apart from when in a voice call.
If you find a solution to sound from the bottom connector please dont forget to post.
Good luck
JustinP
@justinp: There appears to be A way to get all sound from the bottom connector.
The T-Mobile MDAII Carkit (QTek2020 carkit and the Yeti carkit are the same make) do just that!
Unfortunately I have this (cheaper) XDAII / iMate (Expansys-sold like) carkit wich only give in-call audio via the bottom connector.
There is someting with pin19 and pin9 (I read on the german www.ppc-welt.info forum).
pin19 must be grounded
pin 9 must NOT be connected (it is on some carkits thus messing up proper operation).
Now if someone can verify this!!
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RJ11 to Mini USB

I have just purchased a holder for my XDA2 which has a mini USB port on it and I want to connect my TomTom GPS receiver RJ11 connector it.
Does anybody have the same problem or a lead which i can use?
Thanks
if the rj11 connector have all the same connections and signal protocol as usb and maybe even a normal usb connector in the other end then you can buy a normal usb to miniUsb converter
The TomTom reciever has a RJ11 connector and i can not seem to find a converter from RJ11 to anything i.e. USB, Mini USB, etc.
Do you know of any places?
Pratik
well rj11 is a phone connector right ?
and you are sure it's even usb compatible signals running in it ?
i mean if it's analog modem data stuff then converting that signal to something which usb can work with would be a pile of work and end up being more expensive then getting a new gps
True.
RJ11 is a phone connector, but the information from the gps reciever is just being passed to the PDA holder which has a Mini USB connector in it, so I don't think any data conversion is necessary.
The RJ11 has 4 wires in it and the Mini USB has 5, maybe i need to open it up and desolder the mini USB and put in a RJ11 female connector, this then brings me down to pin-out etc.
Do you have any information regarding hte pin-outs?
Pratik
you can get a cable with a mini usb in one end and normal usb in the other if you can get a cable with a mini usb in one end and a female usb in the other then you can connect the usb to xda connector cable that way
of cause that way is way too long but it should make it rather possible to connect the xda to the holder then that is unless
the pda holder and miniUSB connector's signaling require the pda to be a usb host which the xda1 and 2 is not able to be
Maybe we are getting the wires crossed.
The following is a link to the holder
http://www.pdamods.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SPKXDA2&cat=75
The XDA2 sits in the holder just fine and charges at the same time, as it has a connector on the holder, the problem is the GPS connector.
I don't understand your responce to the XDA being a host?
Pratik
RJ-11 to Mini USB Adaptor
I have a pocket, USB Modem at home, and it is RJ-11 on one end, and Mini USB on the other.
Have you tried looking into something like this for a solution?

Wired GPS Help Needed

I've spent the last two weeks searching the web for an adaptor that will allow me to use my wired GPS with a cradle that takes an serial GPS or Tom Tom compatible GPS cable connection (please see below link of the cradle I have).
I have an XDA II - and a GPS receiver that is hooked into a Cigar lighter charger by a connector that I really do not know what it is?
It is a round conncetor with a six pin configuration five outer pins and one in the centre, the connecor is only half a centimeter diameter.
Cradle
http://search.stores.ebay.com/TOMTO...QQsbrexpZWD1SQQsifZ1QQsofpZ4QQssPageNameZWD1S

Tf300t keyboard dock mod USB connection

Hi all,
I am trying to mod my old tf300t and keyboard dock into a dex dock for my note 9. Im not worried about the tablet portion as i can get a lcd controller for the panel. However ive been soldering and desoldering for the last 3 days. I am trying to leverage the docks kb controller and add a usb connection or modify the dock port into a usb.
I have looked at the various pinouts but cannot get the keyboard working.
I dont care about audio or sd card or the extra usb port.
Any help or pointers would be great.
Here is a mockup of the pinouts i have soldered based on the pinouts i found
Ive been trying to test it on an old s7edge incase i wire something wrong. It detects a regular keyboard but when i try this nothing...if i use the wall charger i see that the dock is charging but still nothing at the dock connector. Ive been trying with a usb 2.0 cable. Connected to the d+ d- vcc ( all 3) and multiple grounds and i pinned the sense pin to ground as well.
I have also tried to open the charge cable and solder the usb to the data pins on that both with and without ground. And use a 5v plug and the original asus plug.
The dock port is basically garbage at this point so if i plan to use that i need to use the 2 20 wire connectors and map the individual wires .
I have managed to get the s7edge to detect that something is connected. However i then resoldered the pins to try more as it wasnt working. So i need to go back to the beginning to try again. I believe my issue was due to the otg aspect of the usb. Im using an adapter for the phone but i also tried to wire the connector the same way. Ill take some pictures of it later if i can get it working
So not sure if anyone is following this thread but i have made progress.
I have totally butchered the original 40 pin connector and now am tapping into the 40 individual wires that connect the main board to the connector pcb. I can get my s7edge to detect that the usb connector is attached but it keeps telling me that a high power usb device is attached and that it needs an external power source.... so today i busted out the multimeter and i believe i connected one of the usb host vcc connections to the other vcc connections so i separated this. I also believe that the s7edge has some usbotg voltage issues so im going to test it with an old macbook pro with windows to see what it picks it up as. When i get some more time i will try to trace the other wires there might be something else needed
Maybe
Nice job, I'm not particularly knowlegdable in electronics but I remember there is a battery portion in the dock? Maybe it causes some error during otg?

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