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Mount, Power, GPS and Audio

Ok, I want to use the XDAII in the LandRover for mapping, it is noisy in the truck, I also want to play MP3 WMA files via the car stereo.
I have a Garmin eTrex but am willing to get something dedicated if the price is right.
I want a cradle for the XDAII that will hold it securly,
I want to power/charge the XDAII and GPS
I want to get the audio out of the bottom connector into the front of the stereo (3.5mm socket) for music play back (poss hands free phone too)
I still have various bits of hands free kit from when I used to fix 'carphones' in the early 90's. It would be nice if i can fit a mic in car for voice dial and calls too.
If the info on the tech page is correct on the bottom connector it would appear all is straight forward to do myself, However we all know for the cost of the parts I could by something that would do what i want and more. So what will do it. I am unsure on the XDA to XDAII connection compatability.
Current experiance of produced products is a duel universal mount from memory-map, the GPS fits fine but the XDAII just falls out, not good for £30
Cheers

Hi,
I wish the same thing that you. I would like to use the Xda2 with Land Rover Discovery for mapping together my Garmin 3+.
To do this maybe we have to make a serial and power cable or find someone who can make it.
I think the pinage for xda2 is slightly different than the xda1. In myxda.com they said: "Most accessories are not common to both except for the car charger".
If someone here can help us to know what the correct pinage for xda2 than we can make one.
Or we can buy a serial cable from O2 (I am oredering one now) and check what is the pinage used for it and mix with the car charger adapter.
what do you think about it?

Charger from xda1, serial cable, gps, usb cable (charging problem) all work with xda2, cradle also works but you need to shave a little off the inside or you will mark your xda2. I have an arkon cradle/speaker, 2 usb power jacks, speaker jack with 2.5 to 3.5 converter from xda1, this works with xda2 but the rf break through from the phone to the speaker in the cradle is atrocious, i wish I knew how to fix that problem because when you receive a call you have 10 seconds or more of rf noise before you get to hear or speak to the caller, other than that it is fine and comes with lots of different mounting options.

pinout
When I get chance Ill get my scope on the pins and work it out. Ive had my eTrex working, used the standard serial lead for the XDA2 and the eTrex, just made a null modem adapter to connect between em (info on memory map web site) Works well but you have to dissable beaming as i think they share the same comm port.
I was going to buy the eTrex connector to bare ends from Garmin but it doesn't carry power only data!!! typical. Have thought of getting one of the dedicated GPS units.
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead. Id rather not chop up the lead as it cost silly money.

Re: pinout
TDIPower said:
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead.
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...and your price for building these for every owner of an XDA2 (cos we're all going to want one! ) will be....?
Sounds like this would be accessory number 1 for anyone with an XDA2 and a car.
I've also got an eTrex, and I bought a serial/power Y-shaped cable last year for it, so they are available. It has a cigarette lighter plug to provide the power, and a serial output too for my laptop. Let me know if you need details - seems silly to buy a new GPS just because you can't get a combined data/power lead for it. It cost me £24 mail order, IIRC.

XDA connector
I need to find a UK supplier of the XDA connector, this would get the cost down. The easy way would be to buy the in car charger, strip it, mount the charger in the box, replace the cable with one that will do all the connections.
Ill try and play, get it set up and post somthing on here

Craddle for XDAII /MDAII
T-mobile germany sells one for €199, INCLUSIVE of sat nav software and wired mouse
Ready to mount

Re: pinout
Sorry. What is the meaning of PSU?
sublimatica said:
TDIPower said:
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead.
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...and your price for building these for every owner of an XDA2 (cos we're all going to want one! ) will be....?
Sounds like this would be accessory number 1 for anyone with an XDA2 and a car.
I've also got an eTrex, and I bought a serial/power Y-shaped cable last year for it, so they are available. It has a cigarette lighter plug to provide the power, and a serial output too for my laptop. Let me know if you need details - seems silly to buy a new GPS just because you can't get a combined data/power lead for it. It cost me £24 mail order, IIRC.
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PSU
PSU is short for Power Supply Unit. the bit that powers/charges the unit.
Sorry im not used to multi language conversation.

PSU
No problem!
I will learn a little bit every day

I am also currently looking at my options as like you TDIpower, I am trying to use the XDAII in a noisey landy.
I am interested in the parrot ck3000 which according to the blurb connects your phone etc via a bluetooth unit into your stereo unit. I have not looking into all the issues but I assume you would be able to use the phone/navigation and MP3 via this unit through the vehicle speakers to be able to hear whats going on? Mind you when I'm going a full tilt I can hardly hear the speakers either??
I know a couple of others on here have the parrot unit so mybe they could shed some light on this??
Cheers

sdio fm trasnmitor
i do not know if it is exist (sdio fm trasnmitor) but this will be a good solution for this case!

Hey,
Sorry to bring up old posts, but has anyone found a solution for Mount, Power, GPS (etrex) and Audio?
Dave

Have you seen this one ?
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD-SMGF1XDAII
A friend of mine bought one for his iPaq and it's brilliant, just like a cellphone cradle, slide it in, and you are ready to go.

Hi
What you are asking for is available, apart from the sound in the form of the carcomm cradle http://www.totalpda.co.uk/product4738_0.aspx.
According to the connector wiring on this site you should be abale to get sound from the bottom connector, but what the connector page fails to tell you is you only get sound out o fthe bottom connector during in a call, so its no use for MP3 or Navigation sounds. Currently I am using the jack plug which is a real pain to plug in. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=50643#50643
Re the Parrot CK3000, I have just taken one out of my car as it did not work with the XDA2 if you have installed bluetooth tools. And without bluetooth tools the bluetooth GPS device would not work. Also you cant currently send sound over bluetooth apart from when in a voice call.
If you find a solution to sound from the bottom connector please dont forget to post.
Good luck
JustinP

@justinp: There appears to be A way to get all sound from the bottom connector.
The T-Mobile MDAII Carkit (QTek2020 carkit and the Yeti carkit are the same make) do just that!
Unfortunately I have this (cheaper) XDAII / iMate (Expansys-sold like) carkit wich only give in-call audio via the bottom connector.
There is someting with pin19 and pin9 (I read on the german www.ppc-welt.info forum).
pin19 must be grounded
pin 9 must NOT be connected (it is on some carkits thus messing up proper operation).
Now if someone can verify this!!
:?:

RJ11 to Mini USB

I have just purchased a holder for my XDA2 which has a mini USB port on it and I want to connect my TomTom GPS receiver RJ11 connector it.
Does anybody have the same problem or a lead which i can use?
Thanks

if the rj11 connector have all the same connections and signal protocol as usb and maybe even a normal usb connector in the other end then you can buy a normal usb to miniUsb converter

The TomTom reciever has a RJ11 connector and i can not seem to find a converter from RJ11 to anything i.e. USB, Mini USB, etc.
Do you know of any places?
Pratik

well rj11 is a phone connector right ?
and you are sure it's even usb compatible signals running in it ?
i mean if it's analog modem data stuff then converting that signal to something which usb can work with would be a pile of work and end up being more expensive then getting a new gps

True.
RJ11 is a phone connector, but the information from the gps reciever is just being passed to the PDA holder which has a Mini USB connector in it, so I don't think any data conversion is necessary.
The RJ11 has 4 wires in it and the Mini USB has 5, maybe i need to open it up and desolder the mini USB and put in a RJ11 female connector, this then brings me down to pin-out etc.
Do you have any information regarding hte pin-outs?
Pratik

you can get a cable with a mini usb in one end and normal usb in the other if you can get a cable with a mini usb in one end and a female usb in the other then you can connect the usb to xda connector cable that way
of cause that way is way too long but it should make it rather possible to connect the xda to the holder then that is unless
the pda holder and miniUSB connector's signaling require the pda to be a usb host which the xda1 and 2 is not able to be

Maybe we are getting the wires crossed.
The following is a link to the holder
http://www.pdamods.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SPKXDA2&cat=75
The XDA2 sits in the holder just fine and charges at the same time, as it has a connector on the holder, the problem is the GPS connector.
I don't understand your responce to the XDA being a host?
Pratik

RJ-11 to Mini USB Adaptor
I have a pocket, USB Modem at home, and it is RJ-11 on one end, and Mini USB on the other.
Have you tried looking into something like this for a solution?

Modding cradle for GPS?

Hi there,
I currently have a recently deceased ipaq 3630 with GPS cable, currently hardwired into my car (I just took the plastics off the plug, hard wired it to ground and ignition power and re-boxed it)
Anyways, I also have an Orange M1000 with 2 cradles, and I'm a cheap*ss mofo.... so what I'm basically planning on is:-
get pinouts for ipaq 3630
get pinouts for M1000 (I see they're in a post in this forum)
cut ipaq end off GPS cable and strip
cut usb end off M1000 cradle cable and strip
using multimeter buzz out the pin -> colour on each of the cables
wire together
glue (or duck tape or something) cradle into car
I'm working on the theory that the gps -> ipaq connection is going to have power and tx/rx which will be all I need for the gps, and that the M1000 cradle will have the same for activesync.
Anyone done this or similar, or does anyone think I'm just crazy?
Cheers
Doogie

Answering my own question because noone else did
The cradle I had was for USB not serial and I couldn't manage to get serial over USB option working in tomtom..... I opened the cradle (T6 driver), split the cable to leave the power going where it was but split out the 2 usb cables and I buzzed out some points on the board where there was connectivity to the 8 & 10 pins... little bit of soldering and reassembly and I now have a serial cradle with power that connects to my GPS..... now just need to make it look purty in my car

Headphone with charge cable

Hi all!
Does anyone have a solution do put headphone and to charge the mobile phone at the same time ?
Thanks by advance for all your answer !

Uhm, i think you cant. Because they both need the same slot.

But there are video-adapters with charge-slot! so it might be possible

http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2007/01/15/2_new_htc_headphone_adapters
so this is what google brought up with "headphones charge htc"

eBay
there are adapters on eBay for just a few dollars. The have a 11pin headphone plug and 5pin charger plug. I have one of them and they are working very nice. Highly recommended.
Just look on eBay for a Diamond Adapter or something like that.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-USB-Stereo...id=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=|293:1|294:30
Got 2, works perfectly. Link will eventually die, search on ebay for "HTC USB STEREO"

this one is perfect:
http://www.amazon.de/HTC-baugleiche-Converter-Kopfhörer-Freisprecheinrichtung/dp/B001ID9AHM

Micro USB Hard wire kits.

Does anybody know where to buy hard wire kits to install a micro USB charger into your car? All I have found on them so far is something like this:
http://www.buybits.com/product/sku_6137.aspx
Only problem is everything I can find is in the UK. I am trying to find something state side. Does anybody know where I can get some?

ccunningham83 said:
Does anybody know where to buy hard wire kits to install a micro USB charger into your car? All I have found on them so far is something like this:
http://www.buybits.com/product/sku_6137.aspx
Only problem is everything I can find is in the UK. I am trying to find something state side. Does anybody know where I can get some?
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You could pick up one of the 12volt ciggarette adapters that plug into normal socket and have a standard usb port that provides 5 volts. Take it apart, add an inline fuse (if it doesn't already have one) and wire that into any 12 volt source and mount the usb port wherever you want (or chop and attach a mini usb cable and leave the cable hanging wherever you want).
I've found those for under $10.00 in the states and have done this identical mod before (for something else, but same idea).

ccunningham83 said:
Does anybody know where to buy hard wire kits to install a micro USB charger into your car? All I have found on them so far is something like this:
http://www.buybits.com/product/sku_6137.aspx
Only problem is everything I can find is in the UK. I am trying to find something state side. Does anybody know where I can get some?
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FYI, the 500ma spec of that unit is not sufficient to power and charge many modern smartphones, including the N1.
You are better of fabbing your own solution from a microusb car charger rated at [email protected] or better.

Charger lead -- this?
How about http://buybits.com/product/7441.aspx that seems to be what you're after but then all you need is a micro adaptor.
They might even do one.
Steve

you could DIY it?
grab a 12v 1amp car adaptor, take it apart, find a suitable box from your nearest maplins (radioshack = USA equiv?) and fit the electrics into the box.
replace the fused side of the 12v adaptor with a fuse, wire and 2x ring terminals to your battery.
since it has standard USB, your free to use anything you wish.
i've done things slightly differently, i got a 4-way 12v accessory unit, and hard-wired that into the car. (http://www.towsure.com/product/4_Way_Cigar_Lighter_Socket_Adaptor). that you way you charge multiple devices..

ccunningham83 said:
Does anybody know where to buy hard wire kits to install a micro USB charger into your car? All I have found on them so far is something like this:
Only problem is everything I can find is in the UK. I am trying to find something state side. Does anybody know where I can get some?
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Search for this at Amazon:
Hardwire Barewire Power Micro USB Cable for SmartPhones including Droid and Many Micro USB Devices:
amazon.com/Hardwire-Barewire-SmartPhones-including-Devices/dp/B005J4OTUO/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1360622241&sr=1-1&keywords=Hardwire+Barewire+Power+Micro+USB+Cable
I have this installed in my car.
Would post a link but do not have enough posts yet.