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Ok, so i really would love to fix few problems in pocket player, namely, there are a few of my songs just not playing for some reasons, they are mp3 just like all the others ripped from their discs just like the rest but just wont work, any suggestions?
also, the library seem to have a problem in common with WMP, at least for where i get songs ending up in unkown albums or artist (in wmp i also get multiple albums with the exact same name under the same artis when they really should be one album)even though they are put in the correct album/artist in my computers wmp library.
Please any suggestions what might be wrong? I have put the music on the card several times both by the phones link cable or the memory card plugged directly in to the computer.
Also feel free to suggest any good free media players, mortplayer is good, but i cant seem to find a way to get it to work in landscape mode so... otherwise its great with its changer mode and all...
Leonick said:
Ok, so i really would love to fix few problems in pocket player, namely, there are a few of my songs just not playing for some reasons, they are mp3 just like all the others ripped from their discs just like the rest but just wont work, any suggestions?
also, the library seem to have a problem in common with WMP, at least for where i get songs ending up in unkown albums or artist (in wmp i also get multiple albums with the exact same name under the same artis when they really should be one album)even though they are put in the correct album/artist in my computers wmp library.
Please any suggestions what might be wrong? I have put the music on the card several times both by the phones link cable or the memory card plugged directly in to the computer.
Also feel free to suggest any good free media players, mortplayer is good, but i cant seem to find a way to get it to work in landscape mode so... otherwise its great with its changer mode and all...
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Hi
I don´t know how to help you to fix your pocket player but I can recommend you S2P it´s fantastic! you can check it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417511
Good luck,
Yea ive tried s2p, but i just dont like its folder view, i want to see the folders on my memory card too please i have my songs categorized in folders... or the fact i need to swipe left for next album, should be right
so thanks for the suggestion but... just dosnt work that great, yet, i do think it will be the greatest player some day
Leonick said:
Yea ive tried s2p, but i just dont like its folder view, i want to see the folders on my memory card too please i have my songs categorized in folders... or the fact i need to swipe left for next album, should be right
so thanks for the suggestion but... just dosnt work that great, yet, i do think it will be the greatest player some day
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TCPMP is another option, but will be good to know which ones you already tested so we can help you better
Ive tried,
WMP
MortPlayer
Pocket Player
S2P
this far pocket player is my favourite axept for the stated problems (and it could really use a change mode, switching album when the current ends), though mort is perfectly fine, except for the lack of landscape mode
(as for those few songs that wont play in pocket player, they play in the other players ive tried)
Leonick said:
Ive tried,
WMP
MortPlayer
Pocket Player
S2P
this far pocket player is my favourite axept for the stated problems (and it could really use a change mode, switching album when the current ends), though mort is perfectly fine, except for the lack of landscape mode
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Well we are advancing
Try one of this ones then:
winampaq
gsplayer
PocketMelody
Core Player
PocketMusic
Simpletunes
Sounds like your problem is with the files, not the players.
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Sounds like your problem is with the files, not the players.
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I think you´re right mate, perhaps the problem is how they are organized...
ok ill try those out, but if its the files that are fault isnt it strange that pocket player is the only player of both mobile and pc ones that wont play it? the others from the same discs play without problems
Can Pocket Player play AAC files?
I'm sure before I did a hard reset on my Xperia I had it playing those files. Maybe I am wrong, but it seemed to play everything from my iTunes library but the protected files, and now it plays only mp3 not m4a.
Alilynx said:
Can Pocket Player play AAC files?
I'm sure before I did a hard reset on my Xperia I had it playing those files. Maybe I am wrong, but it seemed to play everything from my iTunes library but the protected files, and now it plays only mp3 not m4a.
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Yes it will play AAC files.
As far as not seeing or playing the other files, it could be the encoding/ripping that was done. What program did you use and how did you tag the MP3's? That will have a great impact on the result of Pocketplayer seeing and playing the files.
I personally love Pocket Player and will use nothing less. There are a lot of great apps out there, but PP has everything in it including the kitchen sink.
If you would like to try and re-rip some of your CD's I recommend you use EAC (Exact Audio Copy) with the lame format. You can google EAC and lame's latest download. Then google EAC setup and you will find a few great reads on how to set it up perfectly for what you want, even AAC if you desire.
Just my two cents.
I've had problems with songs not showing in the library or being shown in another album or artist. This was due to missing correct data in the AlbumArtist tag of the files (songs). I just updated these tags for all my songs and the library now displays them correctly. Also, some other files, like small wavs will not be included in the library if you have checked the HIDE SMALL FILES... option.
Alilynx said:
Can Pocket Player play AAC files?
I'm sure before I did a hard reset on my Xperia I had it playing those files. Maybe I am wrong, but it seemed to play everything from my iTunes library but the protected files, and now it plays only mp3 not m4a.
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Please make sure you make a search for my articles - this question has also been answered in one of them. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350786
dgaud007 said:
I've had problems with songs not showing in the library or being shown in another album or artist. This was due to missing correct data in the AlbumArtist tag of the files (songs). I just updated these tags for all my songs and the library now displays them correctly. Also, some other files, like small wavs will not be included in the library if you have checked the HIDE SMALL FILES... option.
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btw, I've also devoted an entire article to these q's: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415063
My Pocket Player did used to play my m4a files, but since I did a hard reset and have installed the latest version of Pocket Player when I load up an album that is in m4a file format, it wont play. It shows them, but wont play them, exactly as if they were protected files bought from the iTunes Store, which in the case they are not.
I've tried going back to the old version of Pocket Player, but the same problem now happens there.
I've used Missing Sync for Windows Mobile on my Mac to put the files across, and they work fine on Core Player.
It's bad enough that my Xperia wont play protected aac/m4a files without all now not playing... eek...
Upgrading to Pocket Player 4 fixed this problem.
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Upgrading to Pocket Player 4 fixed this problem.
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I was going to suggest that very thing. Good to hear you got it resolved.
I think this is the one area Apple beats Android, you connect your iPhone it syncs no hassle, On android its all a bit of a nightmare.
I've tried Double Twist but the damn thing is painfully slow to sync, can't edit duplicates and whatever else, it looks good but thats about it.
Winamp looked good on the surface, I made my playlist went to sync it took forever, then when I added more songs to a particular playlist and went to sync again rather than adding to the original playlist on the phone it created another playlist, so you actually have 2 playlist of the same playlist old and new.
So basically I need a way to sync and a player on the phone. I appreciate you can just dump all your tracks on the music folder but its impossible to organise 1000+ MP3's this way, so they would need organised prior to going onto the phone.
Any advice?
Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!
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Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!
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Lol same here, mp3tag owns.
Winamp works fine for me; no duplicate playlists. Maybe give that another shot? I love winamp on the PC though, so my perception may be skewed a bit by fanboyism. You could try the Google Music Beta as well. I thought I wouldn't like it, but having my entire 200 GB music library streamable is pretty handy. Personally, I prefer to manually sort and tag my tracks on my PC.
Combo Winamp + mp3tag.
But i do'nt sync with winamp, putting mp3 on the folders is much faster...
i've been using google's music beta service to stream music to me laptop/phone. works great. only issue is the new music app has no controls in the notification center or lockscreen.
slugger09 said:
its impossible to organise 1000+ MP3's this way
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I don't understand. Your music app will automatically find your mp3's and categorize them for you. Just put your MP3's anywhere on your SD card and you're done.
Make music folder, drag and drop
I hated how ipods have to sync, like if I go to my friends house want want some songs then delete my songs then put all of his songs grrr iTunes...
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drag and drop to SD card. never used 3rd party... seems silly.
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Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!
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Unfortunately and I can't speak about mp3tag, but dragging and dropping at least doesn't compress the audio file to save space at no reduction of quality. Itunes does this, and Itunes really isn't all that hard to use either.
Audio from Apple devices are better quality most times, but multimedia is one of Apple's strong parts.(Although also a lot of times you won't notice a difference) The original music app for Android is okay for just music, HTC's is okay, Miui is pretty nice, and the new music app from Google is pretty nice too. The audio support for Android is getting better.
I originally used doubletwist but it kept doubling, trippling, and even quadrupled the number of times a song was in my library. Finally went to ISYNCR &isyncrwifi. Works great, fast.
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I originally used doubletwist but it kept doubling, trippling, and even quadrupled the number of times a song was in my library. Finally went to ISYNCR &isyncrwifi. Works great, fast.
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It did that to me as well and that's the problem with most of these syncing solutions, there is no common sense.
And as for putting all on 1 folder in the SD card, Now say I want song 3 from album A on a playlist followed by song 6 from Album E and so on there is no easy way of organizing this on the phone which is why I like it done on the PC, I have various genres of music, I don't want a hardcore trance song followed by country.
Google music doesn't work in the UK either
Great post and some really useful tips there. I love resource lists like this. Have social bookmarked it in the hope that others can also benefit.
thanks for the tips
I also do drag and drop, but yes apple is smoother in this area.
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It did that to me as well and that's the problem with most of these syncing solutions, there is no common sense.
And as for putting all on 1 folder in the SD card, Now say I want song 3 from album A on a playlist followed by song 6 from Album E and so on there is no easy way of organizing this on the phone which is why I like it done on the PC, I have various genres of music, I don't want a hardcore trance song followed by country.
Google music doesn't work in the UK either
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What you are describing here is what I do on "PowerAmp". I have folders (has option for folders or library), then if I want I use the built in "Que" to select songs from different folders. You can also edit tags in PowerAmp.
Wow. And here I thought I was the only one who uses mp3tag.
mp3tag , is a great
+ 1 mp3 tag
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Gorship said:
drag and drop to SD card. never used 3rd party... seems silly.
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i use meridian only to play mp3 for a single directory
Where are they held?
The reason I'm asking is when I put music onto my SDcard no matter what player I use it misses over half of my albums. Itunes to my Ipod has no such conflict. So doing a little research lead me to the meta inf? If a folder gets transferred to storage it should still contain the meta data right? How do you make that data readable to the system?(for the record mizing, uber, miui, and stock all have the same results).
Thanks
hechoen said:
Where are they held?
The reason I'm asking is when I put music onto my SDcard no matter what player I use it misses over half of my albums. Itunes to my Ipod has no such conflict. So doing a little research lead me to the meta inf? If a folder gets transferred to storage it should still contain the meta data right? How do you make that data readable to the system?(for the record mizing, uber, miui, and stock all have the same results).
Thanks
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How are you putting the music onto the sd card?
From harddrive to folder to sdcard. So all the info pulled from the harddrive should be there? My music collection is very tight. Meaning all songs and album art are held in a single folder. Any ideas?
Are there by any chance any .nomedia files in the folders?
No .nomedia files in any of the folders.
What formats are you using on your music?
.m4a is the file type.
You might've downloaded some aac files from the itunes store right? Are you sure none of them have drm? Android won't be able to read them if they do
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No aac files and I've never used itunes store. All of my music comes from other free sources. It's weird. I have about 50 albums and half are recognized half are not. The ones that aren't have the correct song names come up and even the correct album name but for some reason the artists name isn't being read.
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No aac files and I've never used itunes store. All of my music comes from other free sources. It's weird. I have about 50 albums and half are recognized half are not. The ones that aren't have the correct song names come up and even the correct album name but for some reason the artists name isn't being read.
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What are you using to manage your music library anyway?
FBis251 said:
What are you using to manage your music library anyway?
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On the computer I use Itunes(I have a Mac) on the phone either the stock player or the miui player that comes with AUDIOPHILE FTW. I've tried mizing as well. Thanks FB for looking into this.
hechoen said:
On the computer I use Itunes(I have a Mac) on the phone either the stock player or the miui player that comes with AUDIOPHILE FTW. I've tried mizing as well. Thanks FB for looking into this.
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Yeah this is a little odd. I'm sure you've tried the folder mode on mixzing? Can you give winamp a shot?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nullsoft.winamp
FBis251 said:
Yeah this is a little odd. I'm sure you've tried the folder mode on mixzing? Can you give winamp a shot?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nullsoft.winamp
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Tried winamp same thing. What is going on? On a side note tried winamps shoutcast for a second. How does Van Morrison end up on alternative?!
The only thing I can think to do is redo my music folder and download it again to my phone. It's crazy the files aren't corrupt because they play.
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Tried winamp same thing. What is going on? On a side note tried winamps shoutcast for a second. How does Van Morrison end up on alternative?!
The only thing I can think to do is redo my music folder and download it again to my phone. It's crazy the files aren't corrupt because they play.
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It might be a tagging issue. Not sure what method itunes uses to tag its files since mp3 files tend to use id3. That's why I'm glad on windows, Mediamonkey handles all the tagging. I have my folder structure really organized so that if I try to look for music from just a computer, no music player, I can find it.
/music/Album Artist/[<Album year>] Album/Track# Track title.
If you can get on parallels or bootcamp and can get mediamonkey on windows I'd give it a shot. I'll tell you how to force an update of the songs' metadata.
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It might be a tagging issue. Not sure what method itunes uses to tag its files since mp3 files tend to use id3. That's why I'm glad on windows, Mediamonkey handles all the tagging. I have my folder structure really organized so that if I try to look for music from just a computer, no music player, I can find it.
/music/Album Artist/[<Album year>] Album/Track# Track title.
If you can get on parallels or bootcamp and can get mediamonkey on windows I'd give it a shot. I'll tell you how to force an update of the songs' metadata.
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My music is organized the same way. I'll give media monkey a try when I get some time. Still gonna try just redownloading my music to the sd card when I get some time as well. I'll let you know how it goes. If you have any other ideas let me know.
Thanks
I have this same problem. I use Winamp to sync with my android. And i made sure using both Winamp and an independent tagging program that all my files have tags (artist, album, cover, etc.) and yet half of them still are not read on my phone. Not by Google Music app, not by Winamp, and not by Samsung Stock Player.
Could it be the file types that dont work?
The ones that DO have Artists reading all have the correct album artwork. The ones that DO NOT have artists according to my players all have albums, but about half of them do not have album artwork (the rest do). I'm not sure what's going on. I think it's an error within the Media Scanner?
(on a side note- if you include the track number in the file name of your song, it will show up as that when playing. I would recommend not putting the track number in the file name.)
Nickcu
I never figured out what's going on. Just learned to live with it. I think I might start playing around with it again and try to come up with some answers. If you figure it out let me know.
Im gonna look into it some more later, but i THINK it has something to do with the file type at this point. But don't quote me on that haha.
Just redid all my music. pulled all Itunes related crap out of the folders and it's still not recognizing about half of them. Gonna try some other stuff later. File type isn't part of it I don't think. It still recognizes and plays just shows up under unknown.
I just looked through mine and it seemed that all the files with unknown artist were in .m4a whereas the ones that recognized the artist were in .mp3
could you check and see if yours is the same way?
If Google Music just saves and caches all of your online songs to your storage on your phone, what's the point? I can just use less battery with poweramp.
It's a good music player with the convenient option to stream music. If you don't like it, uncheck the box for streaming in the settings. Not a big deal.
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It's a good music player with the convenient option to stream music. If you don't like it, uncheck the box for streaming in the settings. Not a big deal.
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But what's streaming about it? All of your songs get downloaded to data/app
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But what's streaming about it? All of your songs get downloaded to data/app
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Of course it gets saved, it has to save it somewhere. If you don't want the files on your phone then just turn off caching in Google Music settings. All streaming services do the same thing, on your phone, PC, or anything else: a "streamed" file must be saved somewhere, either in RAM or on disk, in order to be used.
Now to answer your initial question, Google Music is a useful service because it allows me to access my entire 200+GB music library on the go without physically having 200GB of music on my phone.
I was excited to hear that I could upload all my music to the google. I only have 20 GB so it was nice at first. Then it got too inconvenient so I uninstalled from my phone.
For a while it was my only music player, but it doesn't have the option of setting a song as a ringer, so I had to reinstall the stock music app.
Problem 1 -
A) The music information takes close 5 minutes to show up on my phone, every time.
B) Then, if I select 'play album,' the first track repeats continuously until I manually skip to the next.
C) There is no alphabet shortcut to the right, so if I want to listen to Seal, I have to scroll for a looong time. Did I mention I only use this while driving!!
Problem 2 - Then I learned that Google converts all sample rates to the standard 128kbit/s. Sorry, most of my music is sampled a lot higher than that so I can't even use it as a backup of my music.
Problem 3 - I have found mp3s that are corrupt so I will need to rip them again. But, once I upload then delete from the google cloud, the music manager won't decide to upload that album again. Not even if I delete the old, rip the cd again, then copy into the music directory. WTF
I understand this isn't dynamic syncing like dropbox, it's just dumb storage but come on, a little more effort could be made to deal with these small things.
In the end with the data caps carriers are imposing cloud based services really don't make a lot of sense. Then add in the fact that a dropped connection can corrupt the file and SDcards start looking a whole lot better
Nuenjin said:
I was excited to hear that I could upload all my music to the google. I only have 20 GB so it was nice at first. Then it got too inconvenient so I uninstalled from my phone.
For a while it was my only music player, but it doesn't have the option of setting a song as a ringer, so I had to reinstall the stock music app.
Problem 1 -
A) The music information takes close 5 minutes to show up on my phone, every time.
B) Then, if I select 'play album,' the first track repeats continuously until I manually skip to the next.
C) There is no alphabet shortcut to the right, so if I want to listen to Seal, I have to scroll for a looong time. Did I mention I only use this while driving!!
Problem 2 - Then I learned that Google converts all sample rates to the standard 128kbit/s. Sorry, most of my music is sampled a lot higher than that so I can't even use it as a backup of my music.
Problem 3 - I have found mp3s that are corrupt so I will need to rip them again. But, once I upload then delete from the google cloud, the music manager won't decide to upload that album again. Not even if I delete the old, rip the cd again, then copy into the music directory. WTF
I understand this isn't dynamic syncing like dropbox, it's just dumb storage but come on, a little more effort could be made to deal with these small things.
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Definite +1.
I'm not in a 4G area right now and my songs always skip every minute to buffer (since I unchecked cache to sd)
The UI isn't all that great to be honest...going back to PowerAMP.
And regarding the 128kbps, I can't deal with that. Every time I download a song I convert it to 224
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And regarding the 128kbps, I can't deal with that. Every time I download a song I convert it to 224
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Convert it from what? You can't add back information that has already been lost so all you'd be doing is another lossy re-encode, making it even worse.
Anyway, 128kbps would be a deal breaker for me as all my rips are 320kbps from source. Streaming can only make matters worse too.
Is it the same as ics music player?
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Convert it from what? You can't add back information that has already been lost so all you'd be doing is another lossy re-encode, making it even worse.
Anyway, 128kbps would be a deal breaker for me as all my rips are 320kbps from source. Streaming can only make matters worse too.
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From 320/256. Trust me I'm a communications major haha
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From 320/256. Trust me I'm a communications major haha
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So you're sacrificing fidelity to, what..? Gain back a little storage space? Personally i'd buy more storage space!
DirkGently said:
So you're sacrificing fidelity to, what..? Gain back a little storage space? Personally i'd buy more storage space!
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Ill download a song if it's at least 192kbps or more. If it's more I'll bring them down to 224 kbps. And I'm full on my gnex at 4,200 songs right now unfortunately I have to delete stfd I don't listen to anymore haha
I know having options is a great thing but damn! I wish the Industry would settle for a lossles format and call it a day, we have FLAC which works on the windows music player, Google Music (android) plays with some hiccups sometimes , itunes and ios wont even open it, AIFF plays nice with the windows music player and itunes but android wont open it, no idea if it works for ios, ALAC will only play on Itunes and maybe ios even tough it uses the .m4a container, I think the only format that works on all OS is WAV, which is maybe ( I'm not sure) the oldest one and very very few people use it nowadays, what happened to wav?
Which format do you think has the less compromises? Which one do you normally use?
Anyone?
I use FLAC over all the others, it seems to be the best lossless audio with the smallest files and I play it with no issues, streaming bluetooth in my car. I've tried them all, and FLAC is at the top of my list.
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I use FLAC over all the others, it seems to be the best lossless audio with the smallest files and I play it with no issues, streaming bluetooth in my car. I've tried them all, and FLAC is at the top of my list.
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But you use windows, right? :crying: Stupid Apple refusing to give in
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But you use windows, right? :crying: Stupid Apple refusing to give in
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Yeah I use windows, don't have any use for an Apple product that costs twice as much as a PC with the same hardware..
Companies want to get rid of CDs but they don't settle on a standard that works on every single device, amazon and google at least sell 320 kbps files but no option to get lossless , Itunes uses 256 kbps :crying:
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Companies want to get rid of CDs but they don't settle on a standard that works on every single device, amazon and google at least sell 320 kbps files but no option to get lossless , Itunes uses 256 kbps :crying:
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I know, it's pretty annoying actually.
I run into that problem, the only legal solution is to find the CD used somewhere and rip it yourself.
orangekid said:
I know, it's pretty annoying actually.
I run into that problem, the only legal solution is to find the CD used somewhere and rip it yourself.
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Or buy them and rip the files in the old wav to be able to use it in every device :crying:
I know that FLAC is most spread file format. I use Astro Player for it on my Samsung SII Plus. And works without hiccups.