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Help me fix pocket player. or suggest alternative player

Ok, so i really would love to fix few problems in pocket player, namely, there are a few of my songs just not playing for some reasons, they are mp3 just like all the others ripped from their discs just like the rest but just wont work, any suggestions?
also, the library seem to have a problem in common with WMP, at least for where i get songs ending up in unkown albums or artist (in wmp i also get multiple albums with the exact same name under the same artis when they really should be one album)even though they are put in the correct album/artist in my computers wmp library.
Please any suggestions what might be wrong? I have put the music on the card several times both by the phones link cable or the memory card plugged directly in to the computer.
Also feel free to suggest any good free media players, mortplayer is good, but i cant seem to find a way to get it to work in landscape mode so... otherwise its great with its changer mode and all...

Leonick said:
Ok, so i really would love to fix few problems in pocket player, namely, there are a few of my songs just not playing for some reasons, they are mp3 just like all the others ripped from their discs just like the rest but just wont work, any suggestions?
also, the library seem to have a problem in common with WMP, at least for where i get songs ending up in unkown albums or artist (in wmp i also get multiple albums with the exact same name under the same artis when they really should be one album)even though they are put in the correct album/artist in my computers wmp library.
Please any suggestions what might be wrong? I have put the music on the card several times both by the phones link cable or the memory card plugged directly in to the computer.
Also feel free to suggest any good free media players, mortplayer is good, but i cant seem to find a way to get it to work in landscape mode so... otherwise its great with its changer mode and all...
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Hi
I don´t know how to help you to fix your pocket player but I can recommend you S2P it´s fantastic! you can check it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417511
Good luck,

Yea ive tried s2p, but i just dont like its folder view, i want to see the folders on my memory card too please i have my songs categorized in folders... or the fact i need to swipe left for next album, should be right
so thanks for the suggestion but... just dosnt work that great, yet, i do think it will be the greatest player some day

Leonick said:
Yea ive tried s2p, but i just dont like its folder view, i want to see the folders on my memory card too please i have my songs categorized in folders... or the fact i need to swipe left for next album, should be right
so thanks for the suggestion but... just dosnt work that great, yet, i do think it will be the greatest player some day
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TCPMP is another option, but will be good to know which ones you already tested so we can help you better

Ive tried,
WMP
MortPlayer
Pocket Player
S2P
this far pocket player is my favourite axept for the stated problems (and it could really use a change mode, switching album when the current ends), though mort is perfectly fine, except for the lack of landscape mode
(as for those few songs that wont play in pocket player, they play in the other players ive tried)

Leonick said:
Ive tried,
WMP
MortPlayer
Pocket Player
S2P
this far pocket player is my favourite axept for the stated problems (and it could really use a change mode, switching album when the current ends), though mort is perfectly fine, except for the lack of landscape mode
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Well we are advancing
Try one of this ones then:
winampaq
gsplayer
PocketMelody
Core Player
PocketMusic
Simpletunes

Sounds like your problem is with the files, not the players.

TheChampJT said:
Sounds like your problem is with the files, not the players.
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I think you´re right mate, perhaps the problem is how they are organized...

ok ill try those out, but if its the files that are fault isnt it strange that pocket player is the only player of both mobile and pc ones that wont play it? the others from the same discs play without problems

Can Pocket Player play AAC files?
I'm sure before I did a hard reset on my Xperia I had it playing those files. Maybe I am wrong, but it seemed to play everything from my iTunes library but the protected files, and now it plays only mp3 not m4a.

Alilynx said:
Can Pocket Player play AAC files?
I'm sure before I did a hard reset on my Xperia I had it playing those files. Maybe I am wrong, but it seemed to play everything from my iTunes library but the protected files, and now it plays only mp3 not m4a.
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Yes it will play AAC files.
As far as not seeing or playing the other files, it could be the encoding/ripping that was done. What program did you use and how did you tag the MP3's? That will have a great impact on the result of Pocketplayer seeing and playing the files.
I personally love Pocket Player and will use nothing less. There are a lot of great apps out there, but PP has everything in it including the kitchen sink.
If you would like to try and re-rip some of your CD's I recommend you use EAC (Exact Audio Copy) with the lame format. You can google EAC and lame's latest download. Then google EAC setup and you will find a few great reads on how to set it up perfectly for what you want, even AAC if you desire.
Just my two cents.

I've had problems with songs not showing in the library or being shown in another album or artist. This was due to missing correct data in the AlbumArtist tag of the files (songs). I just updated these tags for all my songs and the library now displays them correctly. Also, some other files, like small wavs will not be included in the library if you have checked the HIDE SMALL FILES... option.

Alilynx said:
Can Pocket Player play AAC files?
I'm sure before I did a hard reset on my Xperia I had it playing those files. Maybe I am wrong, but it seemed to play everything from my iTunes library but the protected files, and now it plays only mp3 not m4a.
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Please make sure you make a search for my articles - this question has also been answered in one of them. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350786

dgaud007 said:
I've had problems with songs not showing in the library or being shown in another album or artist. This was due to missing correct data in the AlbumArtist tag of the files (songs). I just updated these tags for all my songs and the library now displays them correctly. Also, some other files, like small wavs will not be included in the library if you have checked the HIDE SMALL FILES... option.
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btw, I've also devoted an entire article to these q's: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415063

My Pocket Player did used to play my m4a files, but since I did a hard reset and have installed the latest version of Pocket Player when I load up an album that is in m4a file format, it wont play. It shows them, but wont play them, exactly as if they were protected files bought from the iTunes Store, which in the case they are not.
I've tried going back to the old version of Pocket Player, but the same problem now happens there.
I've used Missing Sync for Windows Mobile on my Mac to put the files across, and they work fine on Core Player.
It's bad enough that my Xperia wont play protected aac/m4a files without all now not playing... eek...

Upgrading to Pocket Player 4 fixed this problem.

Alilynx said:
Upgrading to Pocket Player 4 fixed this problem.
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I was going to suggest that very thing. Good to hear you got it resolved.

Transferring Music to TP

Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.

i agree i moved from a iphone and i got to say its annoying, the way windows mobile phones organize music, and when i use windows media player mobile to update my library it seaches the entire device and grabs even system sounds.

Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.

Eric03 said:
Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.
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How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?

dr g said:
How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?
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Well at least with WMP I can see my music in a "library" setup, as opposed to just opening my music folder which has thousands upon thousands of subfolders. It's just much easier for me (at least the way my music folder is setup) to use a program such as WMP.... but WMP sucks. That is why I am asking for an alternative to WMP.

10332007 said:
Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.
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Thats exactly what I do and it works like a charm. It is easier than using a program in my opinion. Are you doing something wrong? is it giving you trouble moving the files to the microSD card?

When I start Winamp and have my phone plugged in, it detects it and asks if I want to use it to manage my music on the phone. Winamp has a great name out there, maybe it oculd be useful.
I also used Yahoo Music Engine at once point and that worked great, like itunes. I think that whole deal is still around too, albeit Yahoo music has changed a bit, the app was called Yahoo Music Engine.
I have not tried sync with WM11. There must be a simple option or something you are missing. Perhaps it has to do with Media Player on WM6 and the library function. If you scan the device and organize the library to ignore your Windows folder then it probably won't be a problem on the WM11 side.
Does that make any sense?

WM11 is simple drag and drop; the problem is that when it loads music onto your Phone/SD card it puts it into the file structure Artist/Album/Track based off id3 tags. So if your music is improperly tagged or if you have more than one copy of a song like an album and a compilation album you'll end up with duplicates.
Personally I just wipe out the Music folder on my SD card every 2 weeks or so and dump a new playlist onto it. You can use the WMP sort function in the playlist to eliminate any duplicates before you copy them over. You can still add to the card later and it won't reinstall the same file so long as it's not a duplicate on your desktop like I mentioned above.
As for getting rid of ringtones showing up in your library on your phone I use Pocket Player for my MP3 player and it has an "Exclude Directory" option on it so it will only update from the SD card music folder.

Did Wm4 or CE or whatever handle music?
So that whole development time while WM5 was on market and ipod appeared, was MS just sitting there saying, "Well these are business devices let's focus on getting four Excel cells to show up on this ****tay 320x240 screen instead"
Great.
And the even funier part is the new Blackberry virtualization occurring over WM6. If they were so good at business apps then why is this occurring, HELP ME UNDERSTAND hahahhaha
This was all tongue in cheek utterance from a bewildered fan of MS and their spastic roll outs!!!!!

Clear music from "Music" tab library?

I'm one of the few people who actually like the Music tab's interface (using the zoom to scan a song is very nice, IMO) but I have a question about removing songs from the library...
I deleted the stock songs from my device and now, when I go to the music tab, I get the 'searching...' message and, when I go to library, all the old songs are still there, but with exclamation marks rather than album art.
I went to WMP and deleted all the songs in the 'My Music' list, so I know the two aren't tied together.
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Also, I've added a bunch of music in a folder I created (Storage Card>My Documents>My Music) and neither WMP or the Music tab see this folder. Where do I put music on the storage card so the media players will see them?

Try Deleting the AudioManager.vol file in \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng. That should force AudioManager to re-search your device for Music (you'll need to disable TF3D and make sure Audio Manager isn't running in the background to delete the file. You also may need to use Total Commander or Resco, however selecting "Show all Files" in File Explorer may also work).
I personally haven't tested it by deleting any files first, but I don't see why it shouldn't work (though you did indicate it shows "Searching" everytime you go to the tab, so this may not work). It's something to try, at any rate.

Captain_Throwback said:
Try Deleting the AudioManager.vol file in \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng.
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That didn't work. The deleted songs still show up and it still doesn't see the new songs. You figure they'd want these devices to be user friendly and make it easy to copy your music onto it. Or remove songs you don't want.

bryceowen said:
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Also, I've added a bunch of music in a folder I created (Storage Card>My Documents>My Music) and neither WMP or the Music tab see this folder. Where do I put music on the storage card so the media players will see them?
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I have my Music in \Storage Card\Music (because that's where Windows Media puts them by default when you sync it), and I've never had any problems with AudioManager finding my Music. Perhaps you should elaborate on your setup, ROM-wise.

Stock ROM. Just got the phone a week ago. The songs I'm trying to load are .mp3. I've tried putting the songs on the device directly in the /Music folder, I've also tried /My Documents/Music, /My Documents/My Music (both on the device and on the storage card). The MP3s will play, if I pull them up in TC or File Manager.
I've tried copying the 'Dogbark.wav' file to the storage card (/My Documents) and WMP has no problem finding THAT file. I was thinking it might be a file name issue, but I've tried renaming one of the mp3s to something as simple as one letter and it STILL isn't seen.
Do you NEED to sync it with Windows Media Player? (This is a bit of a problem, as I use linux and don't have ready access to a Windows machine.)

bryceowen said:
Stock ROM. Just got the phone a week ago. The songs I'm trying to load are .mp3. I've tried putting the songs on the device directly in the /Music folder, I've also tried /My Documents/Music, /My Documents/My Music (both on the device and on the storage card). The MP3s will play, if I pull them up in TC or File Manager.
I've tried copying the 'Dogbark.wav' file to the storage card (/My Documents) and WMP has no problem finding THAT file. I was thinking it might be a file name issue, but I've tried renaming one of the mp3s to something as simple as one letter and it STILL isn't seen.
Do you NEED to sync it with Windows Media Player? (This is a bit of a problem, as I use linux and don't have ready access to a Windows machine.)
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No, you shouldn't need to. I'm really not sure why it wouldn't be working.
What Carrier are you on? What location? There may be a ROM update floating around somewhere that will solve your problem.

I'm with AT&T in Florida. I'd like to avoid a ROM flash, if possible...

bryceowen said:
I'm with AT&T in Florida. I'd like to avoid a ROM flash, if possible...
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I don't know if that's possible, unfortunately. I'd actually suggest a hard reset to see if that fixes the issue. If you're going to do that, you may as well update to the new AT&T ROM. I, unfortunately don't have any other suggestions for you.
Actually, the only other thing I can think of is that it's an issue with your SD card, but that wouldn't explain why AudioManager won't update.

go to the music tab, bottom left softkey "library", slide over to "all songs", and play something on your phone. it should clear off all old songs and the new ones.

I actually found the solution on the AT&T support forums. (HOLY CRAP! Useful information was ACTUALLY found there for once!)
Two words:
Soft reset.
Don't know why I didn't try it sooner.

The Jack of Clubs said:
go to the music tab, bottom left softkey "library", slide over to "all songs", and play something on your phone. it should clear off all old songs and the new ones.
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The problem I was having, Jack, was that the music player wasn't detecting any of the new songs I had on the phone. 'All Songs' was blank, because I had deleted all the songs that were included with the device and it just wasn't seeing the new ones. At least not until I did a soft reset.

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The problem I was having, Jack, was that the music player wasn't detecting any of the new songs I had on the phone. 'All Songs' was blank, because I had deleted all the songs that were included with the device and it just wasn't seeing the new ones. At least not until I did a soft reset.
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I assumed you'd tried that. That's usually the first thing everyone tries, so I didn't even bother suggesting it. Glad you got it working.

i dont like to restart the phone. it takes a really long time to boot up. it always finds the songs with the way i listed. i even have all my album art.

Music and Android?

I think this is the one area Apple beats Android, you connect your iPhone it syncs no hassle, On android its all a bit of a nightmare.
I've tried Double Twist but the damn thing is painfully slow to sync, can't edit duplicates and whatever else, it looks good but thats about it.
Winamp looked good on the surface, I made my playlist went to sync it took forever, then when I added more songs to a particular playlist and went to sync again rather than adding to the original playlist on the phone it created another playlist, so you actually have 2 playlist of the same playlist old and new.
So basically I need a way to sync and a player on the phone. I appreciate you can just dump all your tracks on the music folder but its impossible to organise 1000+ MP3's this way, so they would need organised prior to going onto the phone.
Any advice?

Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!

em.20 said:
Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!
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Lol same here, mp3tag owns.

Winamp works fine for me; no duplicate playlists. Maybe give that another shot? I love winamp on the PC though, so my perception may be skewed a bit by fanboyism. You could try the Google Music Beta as well. I thought I wouldn't like it, but having my entire 200 GB music library streamable is pretty handy. Personally, I prefer to manually sort and tag my tracks on my PC.

Combo Winamp + mp3tag.
But i do'nt sync with winamp, putting mp3 on the folders is much faster...

i've been using google's music beta service to stream music to me laptop/phone. works great. only issue is the new music app has no controls in the notification center or lockscreen.

slugger09 said:
its impossible to organise 1000+ MP3's this way
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I don't understand. Your music app will automatically find your mp3's and categorize them for you. Just put your MP3's anywhere on your SD card and you're done.

Make music folder, drag and drop
I hated how ipods have to sync, like if I go to my friends house want want some songs then delete my songs then put all of his songs grrr iTunes...
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drag and drop to SD card. never used 3rd party... seems silly.

em.20 said:
Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!
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Unfortunately and I can't speak about mp3tag, but dragging and dropping at least doesn't compress the audio file to save space at no reduction of quality. Itunes does this, and Itunes really isn't all that hard to use either.
Audio from Apple devices are better quality most times, but multimedia is one of Apple's strong parts.(Although also a lot of times you won't notice a difference) The original music app for Android is okay for just music, HTC's is okay, Miui is pretty nice, and the new music app from Google is pretty nice too. The audio support for Android is getting better.

I originally used doubletwist but it kept doubling, trippling, and even quadrupled the number of times a song was in my library. Finally went to ISYNCR &isyncrwifi. Works great, fast.
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rumblee1 said:
I originally used doubletwist but it kept doubling, trippling, and even quadrupled the number of times a song was in my library. Finally went to ISYNCR &isyncrwifi. Works great, fast.
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It did that to me as well and that's the problem with most of these syncing solutions, there is no common sense.
And as for putting all on 1 folder in the SD card, Now say I want song 3 from album A on a playlist followed by song 6 from Album E and so on there is no easy way of organizing this on the phone which is why I like it done on the PC, I have various genres of music, I don't want a hardcore trance song followed by country.
Google music doesn't work in the UK either

Great post and some really useful tips there. I love resource lists like this. Have social bookmarked it in the hope that others can also benefit.

thanks for the tips

I also do drag and drop, but yes apple is smoother in this area.

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It did that to me as well and that's the problem with most of these syncing solutions, there is no common sense.
And as for putting all on 1 folder in the SD card, Now say I want song 3 from album A on a playlist followed by song 6 from Album E and so on there is no easy way of organizing this on the phone which is why I like it done on the PC, I have various genres of music, I don't want a hardcore trance song followed by country.
Google music doesn't work in the UK either
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What you are describing here is what I do on "PowerAmp". I have folders (has option for folders or library), then if I want I use the built in "Que" to select songs from different folders. You can also edit tags in PowerAmp.

Wow. And here I thought I was the only one who uses mp3tag.

mp3tag , is a great

+ 1 mp3 tag
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Gorship said:
drag and drop to SD card. never used 3rd party... seems silly.
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i use meridian only to play mp3 for a single directory

Google Music Player

I'm afraid I already know the answer to this but is there a way to copy/save music from the Google Music Player app to either my SD card or my PC?

Your post is not very clear, but if you are on android, your cached music is stored in Android/data/com.google.android.music/music folder.
Also you can download the music files you uploaded from play.google.com go to my music , if you click the small triangle that appears when you hover over a song, there is a download song option there.

elfie said:
Your post is not very clear, but if you are on android, your cached music is stored in Android/data/com.google.android.music/music folder.
Also you can download the music files you uploaded from play.google.com go to my music , if you click the small triangle that appears when you hover over a song, there is a download song option there.
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I suppose I was rather vague, wasn't I? You, however seemed to get exactly what I meant. I'm trying to save the files to my pc in order to be able to burn CDs for my father-in-law who will never...and I mean NEVER own a device capable of downloading and playing music. lol He's a huge Rolling Stones fan and I DL'd an album for a QUARTER tonight and am trying to make him a copy. I've found the option that you've mentioned and it apprears to be copying the file(s) (although reeeeaaallll sssslllooowwww). Thanks for the info!