Weak radio on Fuze - Touch Pro, Fuze General

So, I got an used Fuze on Ebay a little while ago to replace my aging AT&T Tilt.
I noticed that it has half the signal reception of my Tilt and often gets disconnected from the network.
Eg: In my office which is a few blocks from the AT&T Cell tower, the Tilt would get all 5 bars while the Fuze rarely gets 3.
I've tried installing different radios and roms and that doesn't seem to have an effect.
Is there something else I can do to diagnose / fix this problem?
Thanks in advance for all your ideas and suggestions.
Fieryfly

Try
BsS Tweaks
"Radio Deemphasis - Improves radio quality."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
I noticed one bar...
Worth a shot.

montecristo1 said:
Try
BsS Tweaks
"Radio Deemphasis - Improves radio quality."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
I noticed one bar...
Worth a shot.
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you do realize thats from the Leo section right? DONT give an app to a person and not be sure if this app really works with the Touch Pro, give some proof of approval that it does work
thank you

montecristo1 said:
Try
BsS Tweaks
"Radio Deemphasis - Improves radio quality."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
I noticed one bar...
Worth a shot.
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That tweak is refering to fm radio sound quality. I don't think he was talking about that.. I too am having the exact same problem.. My tilt always gets at least 1 sometimes 2 more bars than my fuze.. Is there something we can do?

chris4824 said:
That tweak is refering to fm radio sound quality. I don't think he was talking about that.. I too am having the exact same problem.. My tilt always gets at least 1 sometimes 2 more bars than my fuze.. Is there something we can do?
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im afraid not unfortunately, the way the antenna was built into the Touch Pro is really poor theres nothing we can do about it

I did try the Radio Deemphasis, didn't make much of a difference and then I realized it was for the FM Radio.
Chris, you're right, its more about the GSM/UMTS radio than the FM radio.
I know the Tilt has and external antenna connector, is there on hidden some where for the Fuze.
Update: From the service manual, it doesn't seem to have one. Oh well.

Related

A few things about the Kaiser...

Hi,
I've got a little problem with the ROMS on xda for my Kaiser. I tried 7 different Roms by now and I can't find a solution for the 3G problem. Also the camera had the ability to film in AVI mode.
My original Rom was the Rom from T-Mobile. There where I had the 3G connection and the AVI ability.
Is there something I oversee or is there no solution?!
Thanks...
P.S. For the people how recognizing my name; Yes the old one was Noxious Inc. but somehow it don't have permissions to do anything on the forum... (admins didn't reply on messages...)
The Inc. said:
Hi,
I've got a little problem with the ROMS on xda for my Kaiser. I tried 7 different Roms by now and I can't find a solution for the 3G problem. Also the camera had the ability to film in AVI mode.
My original Rom was the Rom from T-Mobile. There where I had the 3G connection and the AVI ability.
Is there something I oversee or is there no solution?!
Thanks...
P.S. For the people how recognizing my name; Yes the old one was Noxious Inc. but somehow it don't have permissions to do anything on the forum... (admins didn't reply on messages...)
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what roms did u try? i've flashed all the recent roms and don't have any issues with 3g.
as far as being able to record in avi ... i hardly record videos using my phone so never paid attention to format; assumed it was 3gp.
Phone problem
Check these out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2330555#post2330555
You need to get the phone repaired
Roms I used sofar
thesire said:
what roms did u try? i've flashed all the recent roms and don't have any issues with 3g.
as far as being able to record in avi ... i hardly record videos using my phone so never paid attention to format; assumed it was 3gp.
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Well here they come;
- HTC_Kaiser_NL_ROM_1.56.404.6_Radio_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.17_Ship
- Duttys_Diamond_Rom_Ruu_Signed_5.2.1588_1.65.16.25_V1
- L26_Kaiser_DIAMONDV9
- RUU_Kaiser_HTC_NLD_3.29.404.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship
- RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.02.405.0_radio_sign_25.70.30.05_1.58.26.20
- Original T-Mobile
- Ruu_Signed_HTC_NLD_1.56.404.6_RADIO_1.27.12.11_FIX
All 7 are not capable of getting a connection to 3G... Where I live, is a fully 3G support.
Weird thing is also that the speed on G simalar is to 3G... even youtube is possible to watch...
The camera issue is not a main issue... it only had my attention, because it was so shocky and stuff...
Greetz
How are you determining your connection type? If you're getting 3G speeds, then it's likely you are in fact connected via 3G but simply getting a wrong status indicator.
gai-jin said:
How are you determining your connection type? If you're getting 3G speeds, then it's likely you are in fact connected via 3G but simply getting a wrong status indicator.
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I didn't do a speedtest, it's only a feeling about the speed... when I try to reach nu.nl a dutch news site, then it's as I know and see the same speed... On HSDPA it's 3 times faster...
I have used both L26 V9 and Dutty's Diamond V1 and I can confirm that Edge, 3G and HSDPA all work without problems.
The camera is recording video in 3gp or mp4 formats.
Make sure you use the SPL and Radio recommended by the chef, hard reset after ROM install, and maybe also check your 3G subscription.
Regards.
dani31 said:
I have used both L26 V9 and Dutty's Diamond V1 and I can confirm that Edge, 3G and HSDPA all work without problems.
The camera is recording video in 3gp or mp4 formats.
Make sure you use the SPL and Radio recommended by the chef, hard reset after ROM install, and maybe also check your 3G subscription.
Regards.
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The Hard Reset, is that before or after the 3 second period before configuring...?!
The Inc. said:
The Hard Reset, is that before or after the 3 second period before configuring...?!
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hard reset is done at first bootup when u reach the green wm screen... don't think that is going to help with ur issues though.
Nope, didn't work...
It must be possible to get the darn thing to 3G...
The Inc. said:
I didn't do a speedtest, it's only a feeling about the speed... when I try to reach nu.nl a dutch news site, then it's as I know and see the same speed... On HSDPA it's 3 times faster...
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Did you go into kaisertweaks and enable HSDPA? It's disabled by default on every rom i've used so far?
skatdawg said:
Did you go into kaisertweaks and enable HSDPA? It's disabled by default on every rom i've used so far?
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Yep, it's enabled...
There is something other different... when I go to my Phone setting and use the "network settings" it says T-Mobile and T-Mobile (GSM) when I choose T-Mobile instead of T-Mobile (GSM) nothing changes...
If you go to start/settings/phone/band, what does it say?
If both say auto and you have 3g where you live then you should have 3g.

GPS on Raphael

Tested it out today, counted from when I opened OCN8 and it took exactly 30 seconds to get a fix. Perfectly acceptable if you ask me, especially seeing as I'll only use it for long drives.
great to know man
Thx for sharing
Did you try any button mapping software?
With or with out A-GPS??
mtbmtbmtb said:
With or with out A-GPS??
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With A-GPS, I don't think you can turn it off.
Only one GPS setting: Enable AGPS: Checkbox.
No, I haven't done any button mapping to the other person who asked.
Is the device as fast as shown in unwired videos?
Black93300ZX said:
With A-GPS, I don't think you can turn it off.
Only one GPS setting: Enable AGPS: Checkbox.
No, I haven't done any button mapping to the other person who asked.
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Yep, 26 seconds for me using Garmin.
And yes, mine is as fast as the videos. Definitely an improvement over the Diamond, despite the Diamond's speed improvements with recent cooked ROM's.
Amazing what a bit of extra RAM will do...
Great, thanks for the info
Since you're using Garmin
I've always found it's notifications to be quite lower than other GPS s/w even when placing an attention tone prior
Is it any louder on the Raph speakers in comparison with Kaiser?
sub69 said:
Yep, 26 seconds for me using Garmin.
And yes, mine is as fast as the videos. Definitely an improvement over the Diamond, despite the Diamond's speed improvements with recent cooked ROM's.
Amazing what a bit of extra RAM will do...
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You know what, I've not managed to get a GPS fix using Copilot 7 or Google Maps.
Strange. Very quick for me too.
Syphon Filter said:
You know what, I've not managed to get a GPS fix using Copilot 7 or Google Maps.
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Make sure to download QuickGPS before you use those programs, that may be your issue.
fireblade63 said:
Is the device as fast as shown in unwired videos?
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Fast like, TF3D being fast? Check this video out, AT&T model, 100% out of the box and not 1 tweak applied:
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/The300ZX/?action=view&current=Raphael004.flv
Now with tweaks, it's unreal.
Nope, still not working.
Have you tried GpsTest?
steveoidm said:
Have you tried GpsTest?
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Oh, no...what's that? Is it something built in or is it an app I have to install?
EDIT:
Copilot has a GPS Status thing built in. Looks like I can only see one satellite. Kind of weird.
Syphon Filter said:
Copilot has a GPS Status thing built in. Looks like I can only see one satellite. Kind of weird.
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Are you outside or inside some building?
GPS works fine for me in both Google Maps and TomTom Navigator. Indoors is not so great, but whilst in a car it was fine all the way home on a 30 minute journey!
rakdoll said:
Are you outside or inside some building?
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I'm in my house, my Kaiser right next to it is working fine.
GPS isn't supposed to work indoors... If you need it indoors, you may also need to be living in a psychiatric ward. :\
I got full signal in front of my house according to OCN8's little GPS status bar, for those who care.
As mentioned earlier, QuickGPS will help (hopefully as it has been useless for me since Kaiser WM6.1 ROMs started to be cooked)
BUT
You need to give it time first to aquire GPS fix alone THEN go back to your PC to download the QuickGPS data
To make sure you have everything afterwards successful,
reboot your PDA and see if you can aquire a faster fix.
You can test with GPSTest attached here.
If it didn't solve your problem, check with other fellow Raph holder their Radio versions and yours.
If you are to flash, do not forget to HardSPL your device.
Good luck and give us more feedback
Syphon Filter said:
I'm in my house, my Kaiser right next to it is working fine.
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@fireblade63
I'd say the notification volume in Garmin is about the same as it is in the Kaiser, so I agree - it's certainly not the loudest, but I'm someone who likes the Sat-Nav turned down a bit anyway. I hate having the things shouting at me, especially if there are other people in the car who I'm trying to talk to.
My father-in-law, on the other hand, could never cope with the Garmin / Raphael combination because he turns his TomTom XL up to full volume, which drives me mental on the odd occasion I have to experience it!
So, no, the Raphael is no louder as far as I can tell.

AT&T Fuze

I've had TONS of PM's recently (12 in the 3 days I was in VT) so I wanted to clear some things up and answer a few questions.
1) ROM DUMP... The ROM incognitho posted is the one on my Fuze, same radio and everything. If that doesn't give you 3G, no ROM/radio will.
2) MMS... Your Raphael automatically obtains the same settings as mine for MMS, if it doesn't work, fix it through AT&T.
3) Software/hardware capabilities... The G-sensor calibrator, FM radio and TV out all function completely after the software was installed. Thanks to sub69 and schaps.
Any more questions so my PM box stops overflowing?
Keep negativity elsewhere as I'm already on thin ice, I'll answer anything I can but once the mudslinging starts this thread is gone.
I'm afraid that black may be right on the 3g in the US. If his rom & radio don't give the UK touch pro 3g in the states, I really don't know what else can be done to open it up as that rom/radio do enabe the 3g on his touch pro. I really do hope I'm wrong as I currenly have a UK touch pro in the US but when the fuze comes out I know I will have no problem selling it and I'll just get the Fuze. It's a shame because I think I would like the layout of the UK keyboard better than the Fuze. Only time will tell I guess.
Well, I can't say I know that the hardware is different (nix the keyboard/camera/etc), but I do know my phone works flawlessly on 3G/HSPA with the currently available radio/ROM. I'm sorry to hear people have tried this with no success, as that means many people have wasted a grand for no 3G. :-(
Black93300ZX said:
I've had TONS of PM's recently (12 in the 3 days I was in VT)
3) Software/hardware capabilities... The G-sensor calibrator, FM radio and TV out all function completely after the software was installed. Thanks to sub69 and schaps.
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I haven't read the forum much lately,,,,,, but is that right? The AT&T Fuze is going to have FM radio?
jamespaulritter said:
I haven't read the forum much lately,,,,,, but is that right? The AT&T Fuze is going to have FM radio?
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The software wasn't installed, but after sub69 did me the favor of extracting the FM radio files from his Touch Pro and putting them into a CAB, it works perfectly on my Fuze. Same applies to TV-out, software wasn't there, but after installed it works mint.
any word if this rom works with hermes? prob not fm radio if so huh.
thodge21 said:
any word if this rom works with hermes? prob not fm radio if so huh.
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Are you talking about the AT&T Fuze ROM? If you are, then no that ROM will brick the hell out of your phone if you try it. Stick to the Hermes forum for Hermes ROMs
thodge21 said:
any word if this rom works with hermes? prob not fm radio if so huh.
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No, the ROM wont work straight out. It would have to be ported to work on the Hermes. There was one ported for the Kaiser (IBI) but i don't think anything for the Hermes was released.
oops i meant kaiser, i sold my hermes.
thodge21 said:
oops i meant kaiser, i sold my hermes.
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lol well that makes more sense
There was a Cab
to Fix the Yellow Photos
Anyone ?
Can we change background picture in touch pro (not only for home)?
Can we have different backgrounds for each ?
How to do that Please

FM Radio on Sprint Touch Pro/Diamond

So thus far there is no FM radio cab on the Touch pro from sprint.
If you are interested in the sprint diamond, there is a fix for that in the diamond forums both here and at ppcgeeks.
If you are interested in a fix for the Fuze:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2692292&postcount=204
from what i under stand that works..
For a current discussion of the FM radio on the Sprint Touch Pro:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=49654
wont flashing a different ROM do the trick?
RavenY2K3 said:
wont flashing a different ROM do the trick?
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I don't think there is a rom out there yet for the Sprint Touch Pro - it's a CDMA phone so none of the existing roms will work on it (I assume?).
Any luck with this anyone
no luck
Just loaded the cab i found in one of the threads. installed on my sprint touch pro and loaded fine. but would not play. I think they removed the hardware.
benthere06 said:
Just loaded the cab i found in one of the threads. installed on my sprint touch pro and loaded fine. but would not play. I think they removed the hardware.
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Did you have headphones plugged in? On the Fuze I had to install the cab and plug the headphones in before the program would run because it uses the headphones as an antenna.
yeah i plugged them in. it did say i needed to do it before hand but no luck, just shows that little colorful circle waiting icon. I assume it is searching for a signal or something and then will just sit there and nothing works. Maybe that is why the unit is a smidge smaller than the gsm version.
Same thing here, app installs fine but doesn't do anything.
same here but how about the headphones with built in fm radio antenna has anyone tried those and see if it works?
leoiden said:
same here but how about the headphones with built in fm radio antenna has anyone tried those and see if it works?
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It shouldn't matter. On the Fuze I just plugged in a pair of iPod earbuds and the FM radio worked great.
Don't want to kill the buzz, but my understanding is that Sprint took it a step further than AT&T and neutered the phone to remove the radio chip so there is no software solution...
bugsykoosh said:
Don't want to kill the buzz, but my understanding is that Sprint took it a step further than AT&T and neutered the phone to remove the radio chip so there is no software solution...
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I don't think so. They took the same exact hardware that AT&T did except that the mold is different (appearance). It is probably only restricted by software. Try installing the cab for the fm radio. It could possibly work.
I installed the cab and it wouldn't work on my sprint touch pro.
Kraize92 said:
I don't think so. They took the same exact hardware that AT&T did except that the mold is different (appearance). It is probably only restricted by software. Try installing the cab for the fm radio. It could possibly work.
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I installed the FM Radio App on my Touch Pro and, with the headphones plugged, the app starts, waits for a little bit, and then I get an "Unspecified Error".
Do we know for a fact that the FM circuitry has been removed? Is there a driver that needs to be installed in Windows Mobile? Could the radio be re-enabled via a change in the firmware?
Chris
dunawayc said:
I installed the FM Radio App on my Touch Pro and, with the headphones plugged, the app starts, waits for a little bit, and then I get an "Unspecified Error".
Do we know for a fact that the FM circuitry has been removed? Is there a driver that needs to be installed in Windows Mobile? Could the radio be re-enabled via a change in the firmware?
Chris
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It could be the FM Radio is specific to the GSM versions of the phone. But we need a tech person to prove that.
im curious to see what the answer to this question is. i would like to have fm radio in conjunction to my sirius subscription
Kraize92 said:
I don't think so. They took the same exact hardware that AT&T did except that the mold is different (appearance). It is probably only restricted by software. Try installing the cab for the fm radio. It could possibly work.
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I wouldn't say that. Along with changing from GSM to CDMA cellular radios they could have changed virtually anything. At this point there is no telling wether the hardware is present or not. I'd love an FM radio on my Sprint Pro, but I'm not too optimistic.
I wanted the radio, too. But as a pratical matter, I doubt it would have worked too well unless you were right on top of the station. I find I can listen to most of the radio I want using Kinoma's media guide. It's wonderful. I'm still hoping someone discovers a way to activate the radio. How ignorant of Sprint to disable it.....
Why is it always SOMETHING with every Sprint phone? Why do they always have to disable something? What good does it do them to disable the FM radio?
bigray327 said:
Why is it always SOMETHING with every Sprint phone? Why do they always have to disable something? What good does it do them to disable the FM radio?
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Well thats a no brainer there bud...if we all had the FM Radio working thanks to this new HTC Product..then Sprint would get there ass kicked in regards to their sprint store with the music downloads and all... It takes from their profitasbility for us to have the Built in FM Radio functioning.

bad connection quality

Hello.. a lot of friends keep telling me that they hear me very badly, that they are experiencing some kind of an echo or smth.. and my voice is distorted.. few of them just asked what a crappy phone am i using.
I tried 1.14.25.35 radio (+rilphone.dll), then i switched to 1.08.25.20m1 (+rilphone.dll installed from an appropriate cab) and nothing really helps, its maybe like 10% better or its just a placebo effect...
Can anyone tell what the heck is wrong ?? im really getting to be annoyed with this problem..
How strong is the signal you're getting? Thats what the problem sounds like. I live in eastern Pennsylvania and while I'm in the house I maybe two bars and cant even make a call, sms only.
akires said:
Hello.. a lot of friends keep telling me that they hear me very badly, that they are experiencing some kind of an echo or smth.. and my voice is distorted.. few of them just asked what a crappy phone am i using.
I tried 1.14.25.35 radio (+rilphone.dll), then i switched to 1.08.25.20m1 (+rilphone.dll installed from an appropriate cab) and nothing really helps, its maybe like 10% better or its just a placebo effect...
Can anyone tell what the heck is wrong ?? im really getting to be annoyed with this problem..
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What ROM are you using? Sometimes a modified (louder) AudioPara3.csv can have this effect. You may want to try the stock AudioPara3 & see if that makes a difference.
smokeydonuts said:
How strong is the signal you're getting? Thats what the problem sounds like. I live in eastern Pennsylvania and while I'm in the house I maybe two bars and cant even make a call, sms only.
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It happens regardless of the signal. I can hear everything fine tho.
Im using now the newest energy 14.07.2009 build + 1.14.25.05
my mic seems fine too, ive tried to record my voice and then hear it out and the sound is good..
Captain_Throwback said:
What ROM are you using? Sometimes a modified (louder) AudioPara3.csv can have this effect. You may want to try the stock AudioPara3 & see if that makes a difference.
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hm i dont think ive modified the file. Is it modified by default in energy rom?
akires said:
hm i dont think ive modified the file. Is it modified by default in energy rom?
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Possibly. But you'd have to ask NRG to know for sure, or see if he mentions whether he's using a modified one in his thread. If you can record with it okay, then the audioPara3 probably isn't your problem. At any rate, here's a link to the stock one anyway:
T-Back Restore Stock AudioPara3.cab

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