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Things have been so quiet lately, that I thought I'd just put up something so people have something to read! The usual suspects that hang around have been missing for a while. Haven't heard from Phil in months. Nitro is about to leave. And Vjgrace never promised to be around for too long. I think we're in a long, lonely stretch here, fellas!
I think we 'Tornado'ian are a 'dying' breed. ROM flashing dont excite many people anymore after
vjgrace's almost perfect v3.7 release. Hopefully Nitro can bring us some excitement with his next release. But I bet the excitement will be short-lived.
I for one would like a change to the mundane Tornado Homescreen. On the horizon there is PointUI (www. PointUI.com). But it is far from perfect. Gregory's HTC Home cracked was ok but lacked user customization. Maybe Homescreen design competition!
Well, what do we do to bring some excitement to the Tornado? Wait for WM7 ROM cooking? Linuz? or port the Android?
The answers are within us.
Post ideas here.
Don't worry, my friends. There is a "dynamic equilibrium" in this forum; some people leave, new people come. Andot came when Phil left, EA came when Andot left, etc. There will always be someone to improve our ROMs or just provide support. Don't forget that there are many people here who don't cook but are here for us when we have a problem (DSF, karhoe, you bipinsen and illi, and many more).
So, there's nothing to worry about. This forum has many good members to carry on our ...legacy!
I just started playing with my TMO SDA (Tornado) on Sunday night. Flashed a NitroGenius WM6 for the first time.
However, making my own ROMs is fun so I already started the process. I ported 5.2.1711 Build 18165.0.5.0 from the TMO Shadow ROM dump posted in another forum (OS only). I will make a vanilla kitchen out of it if anyone is interested... well, even if nobody is interested I'll make a kitchen of it anyway because it's fun to do!
Weird that there is a 5.2.1616 18165.0.5.0, it must be some kind of hybrid because each Microsoft build number is associated with only a specific version, 18165 goes with 1711.
See, there will always be someone to continue the Tornado WM6 ROM project.
Nice work, GnatGoSplat. You have a pm.
I also plan to release a kitchen as soon as I create the option.xml files for BuildOS. Maybe we can cooperate on this.
You have PM! I won't have much time to work on my kitchen until things calm down at my workplace, but I'll send you the XIP tonight and you should be able to get 5.2.1711 available to the public very soon!
With as many HTC devices as I own, the Tornado is one of my favorites, it's so slim and compact, but it has Wifi! I will probably be around here for some time.
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With as many HTC devices as I own, the Tornado is one of my favorites, it's so slim and compact, but it has Wifi! I will probably be around here for some time.
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Welcome to the forum GnatGoSplat! Nice to have you here.
NiTroGenious AFAIK you expect Shark's new build rom, he said it wouldn't be ready in january...
on subj i can say that there will be some progress soon, cause microsoft promised wm 6.1 in 1Q2008, for sure it will be possible to port it for our old friends
GnatGoSplat said:
I just started playing with my TMO SDA (Tornado) on Sunday night. Flashed a NitroGenius WM6 for the first time.
However, making my own ROMs is fun so I already started the process. I ported 5.2.1711 Build 18165.0.5.0 from the TMO Shadow ROM dump posted in another forum (OS only). I will make a vanilla kitchen out of it if anyone is interested... well, even if nobody is interested I'll make a kitchen of it anyway because it's fun to do!
Weird that there is a 5.2.1616 18165.0.5.0, it must be some kind of hybrid because each Microsoft build number is associated with only a specific version, 18165 goes with 1711.
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Glad to have you around GnatGoSplat. WELCOME!
The excitement continues... I am looking forward to a vanilla version
@Nitro - hardly an hour of your posting, here comes someone along to "continue the legacy..."
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ROM flashing dont excite many people anymore after vjgrace's almost perfect v3.7 release.
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i guess you are right. why would one flash another rom when the existing ones (e.g. vjgrace, NiTroGenious) are that good? i think when MS releases something new some people might start again, bringing this alive on the tornado.
but for the time being...
I like Flashing
I just can't keep re-installing my phone all the time
I do need it for actual phone calls every once in awhile
rom kitshen
im a noob and i realy mean noob i realy dont no´how to make a ro and i now i have asked many times but bad answers and i need a good techer from the begining and if you now a video or webbsite that lern that sings so please show or learn me
and if you now a rpogram that´will be good
Thanks NiTroGenious... unfortunately i've lost my ultra-mega-passion for WM (limited time, univ, etc)
But, as you've said "some people leave, new people come" and some of them remain in "background"..
Wish you a great time with the military service! Good luck
We wait you back, you're the man .
Hello to All,
I am starting this thread in belief that ALL you genius minds will give me the support, courage and HELP in putting me to the direction of making a customised ROM. At present, I have read a lots of WIKIs and Guides on "Rom Cooking". Even got kaiserkitchen AND Core Pro downloaded and installed. Could you please help me out in some basics here as to this kaiserkitchen and/or core pro are the right tools and softwares to start and what else do I need (In Details) as step by step. In Rom Cooking Instructions, I am unable to locate the nk.nbf file let alone extracting a ROM. As I mentioned in one of my posts earlier today that I am on holidays and would like to take this opportunity to contribute towards development of a Rom which would please most of us. I can promise that even though I am a slow learner but very devoted and very optimistic about this and got a whole week for me to start it off.
All the help is grately appreciated. I maybe a newbie but wasn't everybody else once. Hope to hear from YOU so we can get started.
Best Regards.
By the way, I have Kaiser130 and currently running HTC Official 6.1 which to be honest, does not please me much. I liked Dutty's WM6.1 Build 209 better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1968557
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1968557
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Thanks a million for a great start. I am going straight there. Cheers
Aye, thats the place to begin alright! Here is a link to P1Taters 4share, you get the stuff that is discussed in the tut there
http://www.4shared.com/dir/5967433/ce903350/sharing.html
Manila interface
I wonder can any body cook a ROM with manila 3D interface for kaiser
I think its time for redbandana to step into the kitchen as well. Although, my roms will probably be awful.
I`m trying to mix up some juice myself, but its comprehensive for me.. I really need to put up a day to day schedule as I find myself derailed all the time. While fixing one thing I read up on a new cool thing whit aditional 3 new problems to solve and thats how my tracks been spinning for the last 4 weeks.
No rom, but daaaam many cool .cab`s laying around
raiisak said:
I`m trying to mix up some juice myself, but its comprehensive for me.. I really need to put up a day to day schedule as I find myself derailed all the time. While fixing one thing I read up on a new cool thing whit aditional 3 new problems to solve and thats how my tracks been spinning for the last 4 weeks.
No rom, but daaaam many cool .cab`s laying around
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I think my focus will be on some of the older builds with an up to date twists. I am transferring all my files to an xp machine as we speak. Vista just confronts too many issues.
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I think my focus will be on some of the older builds with an up to date twists. I am transferring all my files to an xp machine as we speak. Vista just confronts too many issues.
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I should prolly get out of the mix and start scratch myself ... Pitty I am aiming for a Diamond or I would buy a 2nd Kaiser to just knock around on.
Hi,
Sorry for last period, I was very busy for my graduation and after graduation I got some free time to give you something new.
Many of users sent me PMs and asked me about new release (thanks for them)... so I started porting SYS and XIP from latest official release from Diamond which is 5.2.20273. I finished every thing, but need some time to do last touches and checks before releasing.
I just want to tell you that, there is new edition which is HTC Home free just for those users feel good with SPB Shell (I'm one of them).
So, keep in touch to download the latest TNT build.
See you tomorrow .
thank you!
OMFG thank you Its Right!
Have you got some previews for us? OWWW can't wait!!! What do you mean with very soon
Congratulations by the way
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OMFG thank you Its Right!
Have you got some previews for us? OWWW can't wait!!! What do you mean with very soon
Congratulations by the way
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the rom is really ready to release because i finished porting every thing before writing this post (because I want to keep promises better than before )
Waiting Badly For It,
Dear Its Right
I Am Waiting Badly For It , And I Have Some Suggestions If You Want I Can Post It .
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Dear Its Right
I Am Waiting Badly For It , And I Have Some Suggestions If You Want I Can Post It .
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I also looking forward to the release but hej, be patient dude!
Take your time Its Right,,, the real diehard fans can wait! The only thing we want is a good, stable and fast rom... this takes some time (like good wine )
its right said:
Hi,
Sorry for last period, I was very busy for my graduation and after graduation I got some free time to give you something new.
Many of users sent me PMs and asked me about new release (thanks for them)... so I started porting SYS and XIP from latest official release from Diamond which is 5.2.20273. I finished every thing, but need some time to do last touches and checks before releasing.
I just want to tell you that, there is new edition which is HTC Home free just for those users feel good with SPB Shell (I'm one of them).
So, keep in touch to download the latest TNT build.
See you tomorrow .
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KkK..i know that is not fair start to complain, but WHYY HTC HOME FREE =~~
it's one of best htc apps, and don't ask me why, but if you install it after flash a rom don't have the same "benchmark" as a build one.
but ok, we can live with only one tnt slim version ;P
ah, btw don't forget to check the internet sharing problem.
i think it's it...cannot wait for the next release!!
With that benchmark ist's right...
so here is my question:
is there a possibility to get Vanilla with builded in HTC Home?
Great news,my brother
we are waiting for that release will u use diamond themes or still keeping TNT themes?
HTC home isn't very good so it will be good to make it uninstallable
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Dear Its Right
I Am Waiting Badly For It , And I Have Some Suggestions If You Want I Can Post It .
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post brother, if I can edit it while releasing I will.
boto said:
KkK..i know that is not fair start to complain, but WHYY HTC HOME FREE =~~
it's one of best htc apps, and don't ask me why, but if you install it after flash a rom don't have the same "benchmark" as a build one.
but ok, we can live with only one tnt slim version ;P
ah, btw don't forget to check the internet sharing problem.
i think it's it...cannot wait for the next release!!
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Its is a choice, while Profesional version like before with HTC Home.
About Internet sharing, I can't test but it should be fixed in case of base rom caused that (we will see).
Adrian8891 said:
With that benchmark ist's right...
so here is my question:
is there a possibility to get Vanilla with builded in HTC Home?
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I will do it if I can, but really you have to test SPB Shell 2.1.1 (latest) and apply Diamond themes .
DrForIslam said:
Great news,my brother
we are waiting for that release will u use diamond themes or still keeping TNT themes?
HTC home isn't very good so it will be good to make it uninstallable
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TNT design with just the today skin from Diamond (I don't prefer Diamond skins unless the device with VGA screen )
HTC Home will be available in prof version.
Can we expect a Kitchen ?
Can we expect a Kitchen from this so we can at least cook HTC Home into the build if possible ?
Also Thanks for the effort. I have tried to port it myself but the documentation on porting roms seems to be very lacking. Is there any good read you can reccomend?
Great to see that you are porting this. Hope that you will eventualy post kitchen, for those of us who want to make our own additions. (I'm not the biggest fan of your app choices , but your vanilla, like mosky said, doesnt have chocolate on top )
"No More Donations, Just enjoy my work"
Much respect , very much.
Will you be tossing in my camera.exe? Molski compressed it and reposted it. I haven't had the time to update the first post.
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Can we expect a Kitchen from this so we can at least cook HTC Home into the build if possible ?
Also Thanks for the effort. I have tried to port it myself but the documentation on porting roms seems to be very lacking. Is there any good read you can reccomend?
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I will add xip and SYS to my kitchen which is posted before (did you see that thread??)
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Great to see that you are porting this. Hope that you will eventualy post kitchen, for those of us who want to make our own additions. (I'm not the biggest fan of your app choices , but your vanilla, like mosky said, doesnt have chocolate on top )
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As posted on the upper reply
Re: "no more donations, just enjoy my work "
Much respect. Very much respect
I hope that You will toss in my camera that Molski compressed. I havent had the time to updte the first post (opera mini); he packed and reposted it on the last page I think.
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Re: "no more donations, just enjoy my work "
Much respect. Very much respect
I hope that You will toss in my camera that Molski compressed. I havent had the time to updte the first post (opera mini); he packed and reposted it on the last page I think.
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Thanks .
Ok, about the camera, are there any issues??
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Thanks .
Ok, about the camera, are there any issues??
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ZERO.
It is the original camera 3.3 exe with modified graphics.
as I saw in your 209 kitchen you realized that the graphic files in the package are useless. they are imbeded into the exe itself. I just changed them. The version I posted is not compressed, while the version Molski posted I havent tested yet (it is already cooked into my rom, why add more kb.?)
I know that the one I posted works.
also, while taking appart the reasourses, I noticed that the rgu's we have inhibit camera's functions. there are graphics in there that we never see. most likely, because HTC did not think we needed them in this device.
You can use reasource hacker to view the file, but you have to unsign it in order to edit it. otherwize it will not work upon saving.
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ZERO.
It is the original camera 3.3 exe with modified graphics.
as I saw in your 209 kitchen you realized that the graphic files in the package are useless. they are imbeded into the exe itself. I just changed them. The version I posted is not compressed, while the version Molski posted I havent tested yet (it is already cooked into my rom, why add more kb.?)
I know that the one I posted works.
also, while taking appart the reasourses, I noticed that the rgu's we have inhibit camera's functions. there are graphics in there that we never see. most likely, because HTC did not think we needed them in this device.
You can use reasource hacker to view the file, but you have to unsign it in order to edit it. otherwize it will not work upon saving.
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Thanks, I will add it right now.
Okay, now that you're all curious..
This thread will sum up quickly the last month of hard work, and who deserves the credit. Everyone who deserves serious rep will be in bold, anyone who deserves acknowledgement will be in italics.
- xmoo and his source release a leaked copy of the HTC Magic "system" folder.
- xda members start to frantically get the system folder to boot.
- I go on the forums and try to persuade everyone to listen to me and fail to get anyone to care.
- I decide to take it into my own hands and get that m.f. to run.
* build 4 is released (builds 1,2, and 3 were in house builds until i made the build somewhat usable.)
- barakinflorida suggests that i put open home as the default home application to give you guys a GUI.
* build 4.5 is released
- After 2 days I received an OTA update while testing the 4.5 build and manage to track down where HTC is releasing updates.
- Playing with it for a bit I ported the first successful cupcake build.
* build 5.0 is released
- Some days go by for fixing bugs and sorting stuff out.
- dream_kill shows me how the boot works on the device, and how to fix wifi/bluetooth (simply changing something from sapphire to trout).
- fnord, Darkrift, and I work out how to get apps to sd working on cupcake (cupcake uses vold instead of mountd)
* this is now at build 5.0.1
- an anonymous tipster gives me the system directory to another build based on the vodaphone magic.
- I port that over to the dream again
* G build is released
- Daproy starts building kernels for me with built in ext2 and other goodies, bringing easier apps to sd and other nice features.
- At this point everything is pretty much going pretty smooth, I got a new SPL, new radio, and cupcake is running pretty much on everyones phone. (this was my initial goal, give cupcake to the community )
some days go by...
- Dude compiles the latest cupcake build from source and uses Daproy's, and my, boot image and other pieces (refer to his thread for what exactly) to have a nice working source based build.
- HTC releases ADP 1.5
- I mod ADP 1.5 and release the "root" build.
* ADP1.5H (yes the H stands for haykuro, not HTC.)
- Daproy cooks up a multi-touch kernel for the ADP builds.
- JesusFreke helps me through my compiler troubles and builds the multitouch browser.
* ADP1.5Hr3
this is pretty much it guys. no need to argue.
Me and Dude are friends, he has been very understanding and asks my permission before using any of the parts of my builds.
This is a developers community, and open source supportive.
I want to take a second and make sure everyone understands none of what we have today would be possible if it wasn't for 4 main players.
xmoo releasing the HTC image.
me porting the image.
Daproy building those wonderful kernels.
JesusFreke lending a hand when needed.
I want to thank everyone mentioned above for all of the hard work!!!
Much Appreciated!!!!
Haykuro = greatness!!
Thanks for posting this Hayruko. Those of us that have been following from the beginning (I started with 4.5G) or close to it knew this timeline pretty well, but there seems to be some misconceptions out there now that 1.5 has exploded. Many might think this is a pointless thread, but I like that someone is finally standing up and saying that this isn't a competition between You, Dude, and JF, working fervently to have the best build, but a collaboration between you all and many other hardworking devs, to give us all the best homebrew ROMs available. I wish everyone would stop the "Which is better" or "Just wait until JF gets involved, he'll kill Hayruko's stuff" discussions, pick a build that suits them, and be happy. There's plenty of cupcakes to go around.
Definatly a big thanks to everyone. I don't know what drives some members to shun ANYONE, not just those above for optionally helping them. The idea of Open Source is to help spread knowledge from everyone to everyone. The greatest learning experience. Yourself and among countless others have helped evolve the use of Android and the G1, and there isn't a single person on this forum that shouldn't be grateful for the hard work and countless hours you've slaved to do this work on your own time.
I'm sorry we have some of the members we do here, but on behalf of those that don't wish to speak their names and hide in the darkness.
THANKYOU!!!!!
thank you guys for all the hard work u guys done for us ! XDA DEVELOPERS #1 FORUM ! GOGOGO !
That's actually an interesting build ........... well done guys (& girls?)
Love the work you bring to the community here!
There is no "I" in T-E-A-M!!
Great work! Really Great Work...
Arigato gozaimasu
What a liar!! I did most of the work, haykuro just took all my credit.
/me hides
you guys should get together and open an android company and develope more software for android and get paid =D
It is awesome all the hard work that you all have put in on the bettering of this device. Much Appreciated, Thank you!
Awsom work guys! Helping each other is what's goning realy help throw the apples and windows out. I've been folowing all of the android news for about 6 monts waiting for my old contract to be up.
It sounds like this is stable enough now, ill be updating tonight. I can't wait.
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you guys should get together and open an android company and develope more software for android and get paid =D
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People who do this get killed by GOOGLE "thugs"
On a serious note.... Thanks to all who have contributed to the advancement of android!
You guys are all amazing. Thanks for all your hard work.
Maybe you dont understand what open source means, The whole point of android was a open source projects that would remain open and free. Any TRUE open source developer knows and understands this and does the work not to get paid, But to help out a community. Yes there is a way to make money, And yes some people are making money from their apps, But that was never the point of a open source community, People contributed for the common good of the community not to get rich... But i am a capitalist and understand the all mighty dollar...
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you guys should get together and open an android company and develope more software for android and get paid =D
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Lol @ darkrift. Agreed w/all above. Someone recently (don't remember who) brought up how roms are cooked for other HTC phones...and the fact that there are tons of customs for those w/ unique apps for each. We should be celebrating these guys with thanks for providing each something different to the open source community.
Ps. Tehseano I like your new sig.
To all devs who participated.....
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR AWESOME WORK!!!! Thank you all for your knowledge & watermelon sized cojones (each), for flashing the first releases & being fearless of the outcome, as well as moving forward at a blazing speed. I sincerely thank you for your hard work, and for making me look cool by being the first person around that I know with a working video camera on their G1!!!!
First and foremost I would to say THANK YOU to all involved.
Second; I imagine you guys are using IRC to keep in constant contact? If not I suggest we put together a IRC room for this board so all can idle, and discuss ideas.
Thank all of you guys...loving my G1 even more...personally I don't know how much I'd like my phone if not for all the mods.
Keep up the great work.
Can't wait until you guys begin compiling 100% custom builds...muahahahhahah...one can hope.
thanks so much guys! it just cant be said enought how much your work is appreciated.. i hated my g1 like a mofo, now i cant think of having any other phone!
Hiya folks,
there's a new release of touchflow 3d (version 2.6.)
is there anyway you can integrate it with your future roms ?
thanks
loserp3 said:
Hiya folks,
there's a new release of touchflow 3d (version 2.6.)
is there anyway you can integrate it with your future roms ?
thanks
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First of all it has to be ported to QVGA. Utopykzebulon (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489749) has started the work, but then he suddenly stopped it and doesn't wanna publish his work. It is a big problem, because the newer tf3d has some very cool features, and also lower memory consumption so it would be perfect on the Kaiser.
I also want to see it on our phone.
DOMy
loserp3 said:
Hiya folks,
there's a new release of touchflow 3d (version 2.6.)
is there anyway you can integrate it with your future roms ?
thanks
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There actually isn't a new release. There is an unofficial leaked beta that some are trying to cook into Blackstone roms. Since TF3D has never really been buglessly ported to kaiser or qvga phones, I doubt this version will be any easier to port.
Aside from yhe fact that the Kaiser is getting kind of long in the tooth and I think that the chefs would rather focus their time and efforts to moving up to new phones that will support this release ( when it is released ) rather than work on porting it to an older phone.
Kaiser hardware does not support 3D rendering as much as the newer devices do. So this is out of question.
well, i downloaded that TF3D rom and i must say that it doesnt work smooth at all:/ the 3d animation works great, but running something or writing an SMS is nearly impossible, and i think our chefs can make it run smoother
Pawelss said:
well, i downloaded that TF3D rom and i must say that it doesnt work smooth at all:/ the 3d animation works great, but running something or writing an SMS is nearly impossible, and i think our chefs can make it run smoother
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there's only so much a 400 mhz processor can do
that's about as good as it can get. besides, most of the chefs are moving on to newer devices
Pawelss said:
well, i downloaded that TF3D rom and i must say that it doesnt work smooth at all:/ the 3d animation works great, but running something or writing an SMS is nearly impossible, and i think our chefs can make it run smoother
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This whole idea has been gone over a thousand and one times, and some very talented chefs already took TF3D as far as it could go on our devices. And keep in mind, even HTC themselves couldn't give us TF3D for the 400mhz ARM processor chip sets. They gave us M2D instead, something actually made and meant for our hardware.
Please take UI discussion to one of the other Kaiser Forums, since it is only a small part of what is ROM development. That is, unless you release a ported TF3D build that works like butter on the Kaiser, then you can post it anywhere on this site you want, and we would all love it!
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OP: That is nowhere near a tiny request. Chef's already spend a lot of time and effort and work just cooking a ROM, let alone doing something HTC couldn't even do. This forum is for development, not for asking someone else to fulfill your every whim.
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This forum is for development, not for asking someone else to fulfill your every whim.
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I think he was asking if someone could develop a rom with TF3D 2.6 .
That is not a rom development question ....
denco7 said:
I think he was asking if someone could develop a rom with TF3D 2.6 .
That is not a rom development question ....
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You know what I mean...
mbarvian said:
that's about as good as it can get. besides, most of the chefs are moving on to newer devices
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Hey you and me are still here! LOL
Seriously though! I wish I can afford to buy a better device so that I can also experience TF3D...tired of 2D world LOL
why not pm?
instead of starting a new thread you should have asked one of our forums talented chefs.