Before anybody replies that I should be posting this question in a Blackberry forum, let me state that, as far as Blackberry users know (or care), RIM discontinued support on BB Connect, so us WM users are on our own (as usual).
I own a TP2 which is currently using Blackberry Connect with a Blackberry plan (inherited from my previous phone) with two e-mail accounts configured via BIS (not BES). E-mail push works just fine, as it would on any regular Blackberry device. Needless to say that the TP2 accquired a PIN# when it connected to the Blackberry e-mail service.
Now, if I have a BB plan and a PIN# what else do I need to get Blackberry messenger to work? Blackberry messenger is a Java application, so, in theory, it should be possible to run it (or an adapted version of it) on any WM device... Thoughts anyone? Maybe a Java programmer could enlighten us as to what is the missing piece and confirm if it is feasable at all.
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Just purchased this device on the advice from the shop that it performs push email. Of course, when I call Customer Services they deny this; SMS text messaging at best. Have I been sold a pup? :evil:
push-email? what would that be like? someone writes you a message and you get it instatly as with ICQ without your device checking emails every second?
AFAIK non of the comon email protocols incorporate such a thing. email is a asynchronous way of communication.
you might want to try msn messenger or any other IM instead.. but don't forget you have to be connected to the internet all the time (which of course is a must, if you want to use any ip-based service at all..)
even if your provider (and the phone) supported wap-push (as in WAP 2.0), you'd have to be connected..
AFAIK, SMS is usually the only "connectionless" push-messenger for mobile phones
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pascal
It can have the Blackberry client installed on it, which is push email, but as far as I know, T-Mob only supply this for corporate users that have a Blackberry server, they don't do the desktop pop/imap client that runs on your PC from what I have been told.
ah, didn't know about that.... but i guess the blackberry has to either still be connected all the time to the internet or the service provider hast do add some new services on his side too?...
maybe your guy at the store mixed it up with the Motorola MPx, which according to a press release will have that feature (using the blackberry technology) ... and the MPx 220 or something like that should have it too..
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pascal
I think I remember hearing somewhere that the latest version of MS Exchange can do push e-mail... it works something like the exchange server sends an sms when you get an e-mail and that causes the device (whether it's a XDAIIs or whatever else that is running WM) to connect and download the new e-mail.... never seen it working or anything tho so that could be rubbish...
Perhaps they were simply referring to POP3 through GPRS?? Or maybe just something that they once heard someone say and thought they could repeat to sound knowledgeable!!
i am wondering if there is any program that can imitate blackberry messenger for ppc. the only think is that i have a ppc (htc touch) n i want to communicate with ppl using blackberry
messenger obviously i dont want to spend money on a blackberry just for messaging tia
Even if there is blackberry messenger program that can ran on WM which i dont think there is....u still will need blackberry plan for it!
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There is. If you do a search you will find it.
spartan007 said:
i am wondering if there is any program that can imitate blackberry messenger for ppc. the only think is that i have a ppc (htc touch) n i want to communicate with ppl using blackberry
messenger obviously i dont want to spend money on a blackberry just for messaging tia
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blackberry connect software allows compatability with the blackberry service, but you do need to have a blackberry plan with your network
can you share with us where to find the application?
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There is. If you do a search you will find it.
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BBM messenger Vs Windows Mobile Messenger
when i say windows mobile messenger i dnt mean windows live. there should have already been a program available for windows mobile like the BB messenger. we dnt need to talk to people on BBM just people with the software and blackberry being a smartphone as well as the windows mobile phones both BB and WM people can be able to use the software thus connecting to each other. heres my suggestion>>>>develop a program that can be used on BB and WM as well as other device, that generate an identity code Or pin that BB and WM people can excange with each other thus connecting to every body and BOOM BB WM messenger http://media.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
I see from another posting in the diamond forum that people have managed to get BB Connect running on the diamond.
At the moment I use system7 on my nokia n95 to get email pushed from my work exchange server, however everyone else in the office has a blackberry (I didn't want one of these hence my finding an alternative solution).
does anyone have any experience of the direct push technology offered with windows mobile 6?
I might use the bbconnect application (if I can get it working) as it appears to do everything I want it to, but I just thought that if there's already an app in WM that does the trick, I might as well stick with that.
You say you have exchange at work?
The push email system will work just nicely with it, you might have to get onto your network admin and see if they offer activesync connection to it but its very likely they do. You sync your email, contacts, tasks and calender with it...works a treat.
I currently use DenaiL's service on here and it works very nicely...you should be up and running pretty swiftly if ur network admin confirms you can use it.
EDIT: Activesync is built into EVERY ROM in windows mobile and this is the primary way to sync the device over the air (via GPRS/HSDPA or wifi to get push email) or via USB.
we have exchange server at work, but I doubt they'll let me add any software (activesync) to it.
Exchange already has the software needed in it, its a native function of exchange to allow a windows mobile device to sync with it.
EAS is a native part of exchange, but it is turned off by default i think.
I know my place have it turned off, despite all the company mobile supporting EAS, and all the employees using HTC devices that natively support it.
Go figure.
I think they want to save a couple of hundred of quid on a certificate, and spend thousands of pounds on corporate intellisync licenses instead.
so my company would have to invest in a new license to enable EAS?
I'm pretty sure they would have to buy a license to allow me to use BBConnect too? I know that we are running 5 or 6 BBs in the company, each one requiring a license....or have I been misled?
thanks, I really want to ensure that my push email will work perfectly on the device when I get it.
I dont own a HTC Touch Diamond or a Touch Pro. I own a HTC Touch and use Hosted Exchange as my primary email service provider. I use the direct-push technology in WM6 and sync with my exchange account. It works like a charm and I have yet to experience any problems with it. I get my email on my Touch within 10 seconds of receiving the email in my inbox.
Memory fades about Exchange 2003, however, I *think* Exchange direct-push is enabled by default on Exchange 2007. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
Exchange 2003 w/ SP2 automatically enabled Direct-Push. Same w/ all flavors of 2007. With Exchange 2007, admins DO need to enable Active Sync, but they can do it on a user by user basis if they want to. It shouldn't be a big deal for your IT admins to turn it on for you. Hope this helps.
excellent, thanks for the replies. We are running 2003 SP2, so hopefully in a few days time I might have proper push email. the app I'm currently running (system7) is totally crap at the moment..had nothing pushed for nearly a week!!
someone i know keeps telling me that his blackberry bold and bb messenger is the dogs nuts.
how can i install blackberry messenger on my hd2 so i can add him as friend etc... then he can see it works on hd2 not just his toy he found in a xmas cracker. lol
mmmm, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that's possible. BBM is only for bb users who have unique PINs. I don't think BBM will ever work on the hd2.
No BBM for WinMo
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how can i install blackberry messenger on my hd2
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Can't.
BlackBerry Messenger (BBM) is based on the unique PIN of each BlackBerry.
No PIN = no BBM.
There are rumors that Research in Motion (RIM), the makers of BlackBerry, have an internal MS Windows app for BBMing from their desktops. If it exists it hasn't leaked, and likely requires special account settings from RIM/BlackBerry on their proprietary closed commercial servers.
BBM is nice, and is the standard in corporate environments, but outside that you & your buddy will do just as well using Y! Messenger/MS Live Chat/ICQ/AOL Instant Messenger/Google Chat. All of these are available from RIM for their BlackBerrys and have corresponding clients on Windows Mobile.
I use a Dopod-838 with blackberry connect to send/receive email before, and now i changed to HTC-HD2, so did anyone know can i still use blackberry connect to send/receive email, if not, please ask me any method to do that.
Many Thanks,
HTC-HD2
Blackberry in HD2
Sorry Blackberry is not applicable for HD2.
kongway said:
I use a Dopod-838 with blackberry connect to send/receive email before, and now i changed to HTC-HD2, so did anyone know can i still use blackberry connect to send/receive email, if not, please ask me any method to do that.
Many Thanks,
HTC-HD2
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there is this other product for non-blackberry phone that does the same. google for Good Technology. I think they used to call Visto.