Just purchased this device on the advice from the shop that it performs push email. Of course, when I call Customer Services they deny this; SMS text messaging at best. Have I been sold a pup? :evil:
push-email? what would that be like? someone writes you a message and you get it instatly as with ICQ without your device checking emails every second?
AFAIK non of the comon email protocols incorporate such a thing. email is a asynchronous way of communication.
you might want to try msn messenger or any other IM instead.. but don't forget you have to be connected to the internet all the time (which of course is a must, if you want to use any ip-based service at all..)
even if your provider (and the phone) supported wap-push (as in WAP 2.0), you'd have to be connected..
AFAIK, SMS is usually the only "connectionless" push-messenger for mobile phones
cheers
pascal
It can have the Blackberry client installed on it, which is push email, but as far as I know, T-Mob only supply this for corporate users that have a Blackberry server, they don't do the desktop pop/imap client that runs on your PC from what I have been told.
ah, didn't know about that.... but i guess the blackberry has to either still be connected all the time to the internet or the service provider hast do add some new services on his side too?...
maybe your guy at the store mixed it up with the Motorola MPx, which according to a press release will have that feature (using the blackberry technology) ... and the MPx 220 or something like that should have it too..
cheers
pascal
I think I remember hearing somewhere that the latest version of MS Exchange can do push e-mail... it works something like the exchange server sends an sms when you get an e-mail and that causes the device (whether it's a XDAIIs or whatever else that is running WM) to connect and download the new e-mail.... never seen it working or anything tho so that could be rubbish...
Perhaps they were simply referring to POP3 through GPRS?? Or maybe just something that they once heard someone say and thought they could repeat to sound knowledgeable!!
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Hey guys.....
I read in another post that https is supported by the xdaII but it didnt say whether it was through GPRS.
The reason I ask .... I have to purchase 3 pda/phones and this looks ideal.......if I can connect through GPRS connection to the https exchange server and send recieve emails.
Thanks in advance.
scarper
Scarper, I run my own little mail server at home which has a https web frontend in addition to serving POP & IMAP requests. I can access my mailbox on XDA2 via GPRS through the https frontend. Transport-wise I can safely say you should be able to access MS Exchange mailboxes via https. Question is what frontend would you be hitting? OWA? These things are rarely designed for the 240x320 screen size & GPRS bandwidth. You may find that access is unbearably slow or generally unusable due to UI limitations. Last but not least, if OWA uses any ActiveX components not supported on Pocket Internet Exporer you may still be out of luck. Hope this helps. Let us know how you go. Best of luck.
thanks for quick reply k_kirk .....
It will be going through OWA, now i have a dell axim connected to my home network and it uses owa to my work email no problem so i am guessing there will be no software issue.....I realise the speed through gprs will be slow but as long as it work I dont mind that.
Anyone else had an experience with this....comment or thoughts appreciated
Thanks again.
Scarper
Hi there. You are most welcome. This is most encouraging. An option you may want to try is fronting it via terminal services and access via the terminal services client on the PPC. This may give you a slight improvement in performance depending how heavy OWA is. Just a thought. Will wait to hear about your experiences. Regards
@scarper: What did you do for getting OWA to work via PIE?
Besides the scrolling you have to do on the MDAII,
I CAN get in, but once I want to open any email, it just doesnt repond . . .
edsub I am using a dell axim at the moment....I didnt do anything special just logged in and apart from all the scrolling it works......I dont know why or if it is supposed to......but it does.....so I am not complaining. Just as long as the xdaII works on it too, or I'll be in trouble because we have just ordered three xdaII's for use on the road for email.
If you want to know anymore info like settings in IE I would be willing to answer as best I can.
Cheers
scarper
I see from another posting in the diamond forum that people have managed to get BB Connect running on the diamond.
At the moment I use system7 on my nokia n95 to get email pushed from my work exchange server, however everyone else in the office has a blackberry (I didn't want one of these hence my finding an alternative solution).
does anyone have any experience of the direct push technology offered with windows mobile 6?
I might use the bbconnect application (if I can get it working) as it appears to do everything I want it to, but I just thought that if there's already an app in WM that does the trick, I might as well stick with that.
You say you have exchange at work?
The push email system will work just nicely with it, you might have to get onto your network admin and see if they offer activesync connection to it but its very likely they do. You sync your email, contacts, tasks and calender with it...works a treat.
I currently use DenaiL's service on here and it works very nicely...you should be up and running pretty swiftly if ur network admin confirms you can use it.
EDIT: Activesync is built into EVERY ROM in windows mobile and this is the primary way to sync the device over the air (via GPRS/HSDPA or wifi to get push email) or via USB.
we have exchange server at work, but I doubt they'll let me add any software (activesync) to it.
Exchange already has the software needed in it, its a native function of exchange to allow a windows mobile device to sync with it.
EAS is a native part of exchange, but it is turned off by default i think.
I know my place have it turned off, despite all the company mobile supporting EAS, and all the employees using HTC devices that natively support it.
Go figure.
I think they want to save a couple of hundred of quid on a certificate, and spend thousands of pounds on corporate intellisync licenses instead.
so my company would have to invest in a new license to enable EAS?
I'm pretty sure they would have to buy a license to allow me to use BBConnect too? I know that we are running 5 or 6 BBs in the company, each one requiring a license....or have I been misled?
thanks, I really want to ensure that my push email will work perfectly on the device when I get it.
I dont own a HTC Touch Diamond or a Touch Pro. I own a HTC Touch and use Hosted Exchange as my primary email service provider. I use the direct-push technology in WM6 and sync with my exchange account. It works like a charm and I have yet to experience any problems with it. I get my email on my Touch within 10 seconds of receiving the email in my inbox.
Memory fades about Exchange 2003, however, I *think* Exchange direct-push is enabled by default on Exchange 2007. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
Exchange 2003 w/ SP2 automatically enabled Direct-Push. Same w/ all flavors of 2007. With Exchange 2007, admins DO need to enable Active Sync, but they can do it on a user by user basis if they want to. It shouldn't be a big deal for your IT admins to turn it on for you. Hope this helps.
excellent, thanks for the replies. We are running 2003 SP2, so hopefully in a few days time I might have proper push email. the app I'm currently running (system7) is totally crap at the moment..had nothing pushed for nearly a week!!
Before anybody replies that I should be posting this question in a Blackberry forum, let me state that, as far as Blackberry users know (or care), RIM discontinued support on BB Connect, so us WM users are on our own (as usual).
I own a TP2 which is currently using Blackberry Connect with a Blackberry plan (inherited from my previous phone) with two e-mail accounts configured via BIS (not BES). E-mail push works just fine, as it would on any regular Blackberry device. Needless to say that the TP2 accquired a PIN# when it connected to the Blackberry e-mail service.
Now, if I have a BB plan and a PIN# what else do I need to get Blackberry messenger to work? Blackberry messenger is a Java application, so, in theory, it should be possible to run it (or an adapted version of it) on any WM device... Thoughts anyone? Maybe a Java programmer could enlighten us as to what is the missing piece and confirm if it is feasable at all.
Moved as not software release....
Hey guys,
I'm on Windows phone temporarily while my HTC OneX is being fixed.
I'm having a frustrating problem with my email on a Nokia Lumia 610.
Using a POP account the windows phone downloads my emails without any problems. But, once I download the same emails on my PC, the windows Phone decides to remove(from the phone) the same emails rather than leaving copies like both Ios & Android. This is highly frustrating when forwarding Airline tickets or schedules you want to save for later reference. Today I missed a bus because of it. Thanks Microsoft
Anyone know how to fix it? The email settings seemed too dumbed down to be of any use.
Cheers.
First suggestion would be to use an email protocol that is merely old, instead of completely obsolete. POP3 is from the 80s, and it shows. Does your provider seriously not offer IMAP access? There are plenty of perfectly good and free emails providers which do... Some of them will even pull email from other inboxes for you.
Second suggestion, if you absolutely must use POP3, would be to make sure that both the phone and PC are configured to "Leave a copy of messages on the server" when downloading. My best guess as to what's happening is that your PC is configured to download and remove the messages from the server. Then, when your phone syncs with the server again, it sees that the messages it had previously downloaded were deleted from the server, so it deletes the local copies as well.
That's exactly what is happing. I just think its the wrong way. Even my old Nokia dumbphone from 5 years ago left copies of downloaded emails on the phone. As does the Iphone & Android.
Thanks for the help anyway. I don't think Imap is an option.
Gmail, as one example, supports IMAP (for free) and I believe it can retrieve mail from a POP3 server for you too (although I haven't tried). Alternatively, you may be able to set up your POP3 account to forward mail to a Gmail account. IMAP really is just a superior protocol.
Is there some reason you're not keeping the messages on the server after download? I guess I can see why you'd prefer that the phone not remove messages that were removed from the server, but given how little synchronization is possible in POP3 anyhow, I actually think that behavior is better than nothing (although perhaps it should be configurable and for some reason isn't).
I was able to switch to IMAP, but my WP is still deleting the mails after the PC downloads them. UGH.
If I let my PC email client leave the messages on the server, it will constantly re download them. (I think).
I'm sure this is a WP problem/oversight as multiple other devices work correctly.
If your PC email client constantly re-downloads message that it itself has chosen to leave on the server, you're using a truly outrageously bad email client! Even with POP3, it's quite possible for a client to list the messages on the server, and then only download the ones it doens't have. This is how all major email clients work (Outlook, Windows [Live] Mail, Thunderbird, Apple's Mail app, the WP7 email client, etc.) Even better, though, would be to also use IMAP on the PC client, as that way you could truly keep things in sync between the phone and the PC (for example, if you read a message on the phone, it would be makred as read on the PC when you got home, and if you send a message on the PC at home, it would be visible in the Sent Items folder on the phone too).
Ok so this question is a bit odd so I really didn't know where to put it. I barely know how to phrase it...
I have a BMW and it has the ability to read and send emails through BT. However I've noticed that this only works with the stock Samsung email app, and not with any other third party apps like Outlook or Bluemail.
I can't say I'm surprised, but I don't know why or how this is, so I don't know if there are a) any other apps that would work or b) a way to bypass/hack this apparent restriction.
I'm sure this comes from the phone but I have no clue if other manufacturers have the same kind of quirk. The Samsung email app isn't horrible, but it's not the best either...
Thanks!
Maybe your car has a whitelist of email clients from which accepts connections.
Or your phone can send BT emails from other apps.
Try using another email client (non-server one) such as Thunderbird Mail and see if that works.
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Maybe your car has a whitelist of email clients from which accepts connections.
Or your phone can send BT emails from other apps.
Try using another email client (non-server one) such as Thunderbird Mail and see if that works.
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Thanks for the reply. I doubt BMW went through the trouble of whitelisting clients, especially considering the number of manufacturers who have their own apps pre-installed.
I'm a little puzzled at what you're referring to however when you say "non-server" clients? Do you mean POP3 settings instead? Because I've tried a variety of clients and all fail except the Samsung app, which led me to my conclusion it has access to a priority API or protocol...