Hey guys.....
I read in another post that https is supported by the xdaII but it didnt say whether it was through GPRS.
The reason I ask .... I have to purchase 3 pda/phones and this looks ideal.......if I can connect through GPRS connection to the https exchange server and send recieve emails.
Thanks in advance.
scarper
Scarper, I run my own little mail server at home which has a https web frontend in addition to serving POP & IMAP requests. I can access my mailbox on XDA2 via GPRS through the https frontend. Transport-wise I can safely say you should be able to access MS Exchange mailboxes via https. Question is what frontend would you be hitting? OWA? These things are rarely designed for the 240x320 screen size & GPRS bandwidth. You may find that access is unbearably slow or generally unusable due to UI limitations. Last but not least, if OWA uses any ActiveX components not supported on Pocket Internet Exporer you may still be out of luck. Hope this helps. Let us know how you go. Best of luck.
thanks for quick reply k_kirk .....
It will be going through OWA, now i have a dell axim connected to my home network and it uses owa to my work email no problem so i am guessing there will be no software issue.....I realise the speed through gprs will be slow but as long as it work I dont mind that.
Anyone else had an experience with this....comment or thoughts appreciated
Thanks again.
Scarper
Hi there. You are most welcome. This is most encouraging. An option you may want to try is fronting it via terminal services and access via the terminal services client on the PPC. This may give you a slight improvement in performance depending how heavy OWA is. Just a thought. Will wait to hear about your experiences. Regards
@scarper: What did you do for getting OWA to work via PIE?
Besides the scrolling you have to do on the MDAII,
I CAN get in, but once I want to open any email, it just doesnt repond . . .
edsub I am using a dell axim at the moment....I didnt do anything special just logged in and apart from all the scrolling it works......I dont know why or if it is supposed to......but it does.....so I am not complaining. Just as long as the xdaII works on it too, or I'll be in trouble because we have just ordered three xdaII's for use on the road for email.
If you want to know anymore info like settings in IE I would be willing to answer as best I can.
Cheers
scarper
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Just purchased this device on the advice from the shop that it performs push email. Of course, when I call Customer Services they deny this; SMS text messaging at best. Have I been sold a pup? :evil:
push-email? what would that be like? someone writes you a message and you get it instatly as with ICQ without your device checking emails every second?
AFAIK non of the comon email protocols incorporate such a thing. email is a asynchronous way of communication.
you might want to try msn messenger or any other IM instead.. but don't forget you have to be connected to the internet all the time (which of course is a must, if you want to use any ip-based service at all..)
even if your provider (and the phone) supported wap-push (as in WAP 2.0), you'd have to be connected..
AFAIK, SMS is usually the only "connectionless" push-messenger for mobile phones
cheers
pascal
It can have the Blackberry client installed on it, which is push email, but as far as I know, T-Mob only supply this for corporate users that have a Blackberry server, they don't do the desktop pop/imap client that runs on your PC from what I have been told.
ah, didn't know about that.... but i guess the blackberry has to either still be connected all the time to the internet or the service provider hast do add some new services on his side too?...
maybe your guy at the store mixed it up with the Motorola MPx, which according to a press release will have that feature (using the blackberry technology) ... and the MPx 220 or something like that should have it too..
cheers
pascal
I think I remember hearing somewhere that the latest version of MS Exchange can do push e-mail... it works something like the exchange server sends an sms when you get an e-mail and that causes the device (whether it's a XDAIIs or whatever else that is running WM) to connect and download the new e-mail.... never seen it working or anything tho so that could be rubbish...
Perhaps they were simply referring to POP3 through GPRS?? Or maybe just something that they once heard someone say and thought they could repeat to sound knowledgeable!!
I'm looking to partake of some vendor's service for the purpose of PUSH functionality. What does everyone here use? Their own MSE box, hosted Exchange, 4smartphone.net, web2mail.com, or some other service?
Personal Notes
- 4smartphone.net looks like the best, but you have to pay a year in advance (no monthly payments). Forget that.
- web2mail.com doesn't look like it supports SP2 which enables Push.
- I don't have a license to run my own Exchange box
- Other hosting services chanrge $15+/month and mostly without SP2.
What else are the choices out there? Now that we have ROM's that support it, I would assume MANY people will be looking for a solution on the server side.
Use vgsmail and keep your current mail server.
http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/
Anyone else? This should be a pretty active thread... but only one response.
BTW, I saw someone mentioned www.utica.nl
jeremyjoslin said:
Anyone else? This should be a pretty active thread... but only one response.
BTW, I saw someone mentioned www.utica.nl
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I use 4smartphone.net as of yesterday -
I've set up mail forwarding from my belfast-biker.com domain to the 4smartphone one, it sync beautifully, BUT...!
It syncs lovely between OWA (I think that's it, the web-based Outlook thing) and the Exec, but there seems no link with my normal Outlook, and I'm sure there should be.
Also, when I receive emails, they go to my device, and my OWN, but not to my normal Outlook anymore, I'm sure it's coz I've failed to establish a link I should have done.... any help?
Oh at this time of fun and joy, how little i'm having
It all started a few weeks ago when I had to dump my Yahoo mail account as I was getting way too much junk mail - my poor Homer Simpson "The mail is here... woooohoooo" was seriously overworked!
So off I Googled and after a few hours found Inbox.Com. Awesome! 5 gig free and pop access.. yay! So I set it all up on Outlook on my PC and it rocked. Great!
Now time to setup on my TyTN. So I plugged all the details into the standard Smartmobile client and encountered my first problem. Aparently, and I ain't too hot on this stuff, Inbox.com does something odd with the content also being part of the subject? Anyways, this stopped the Smartmobile software downloading any messages, all it would do is tell me there are x number of mails present
So I tried a few more 3rd party apps and finaly came across Flexmail. This *at first* rocked! It downloaded emails and replaced the standard "Today screen" menu option and seemed to work great. A well rounded bit of software.
Then this morning, my second day of using flexmail, I woke up and noticed no new emails. Fired up my laptop (Outlook) and checked - oh look 2 new mails
After some experimentation, it appears that Flexmail does not autoconnect (a least reliably - unlike the standard MS client which does but don't download) and just ignores some email messages! (Unable to find out why/common factor)
So, I'm now after a reliable, well rounded and polished, SMS(?) and Email client for my TyTN. It must autoconnect every x mins, use system address book/contacts and above all, be reliable and not ignore messages! It must also run "invisibly" for want of a better way of describing it and not need me to constantly start it up etc.
I have tried nPOP and QMail, neither of which seem "nice n pretty" enough for me.
I am happy to pay for a client, as long as I can get a demo/trial first and i'm not too bothered about cost either.
I beg you, please point me in the right direction and I will be forever in your debt!
Very many thanks in advance and a have a tip top holiday period!
edit: Ps No matter what I try I also can't get flexmail to play my "The mail is here ...." even though its programmed in Sounds And Notifications/Flexmail.
Profimail?
Hi,
somebody has experience with Profimail? On a Czech PDA-forum people were quite enthousiastic about it. http://www.lonelycatgames.com/index.php?note=profimail&chapter=profimail
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Hi,
somebody has experience with Profimail? On a Czech PDA-forum people were quite enthousiastic about it. http://www.lonelycatgames.com/index.php?note=profimail&chapter=profimail
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1. welcome to XDA-Dev
2. while ProfiMail is stable, I'd choose something else. There are MUCH better mailer clients: Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
If you're not too bothered about cost, then why not use Gmail, and forward that to a free live.mail2web.com account.
The only cost will be data on your phone plan, but it means you get true push mail, so you don't have to check every x minutes, it just notifies you when you get new mail like a blackberry, and all of this with pocket outlook.
Also means all of your contacts and calendar are backed up online too.
Menneisyys said:
..... Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
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Hi
We are both coming from a diferent forum looking for the same answer We've both used QMail - which seems complicated and ugly - and Flexmail, nice looking but, well "misses" emails and won't autoconnect, despite the options.
Will however check out your link, thanks!
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If you're not too bothered about cost, then why not use Gmail, and forward that to a free live.mail2web.com account.
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'coz this aint a "inbox.com" issue. Its rubbish clients on the smartphones. Yahoo was brilliant but got blitzed with junk mail, although it did take 7 years to reach too bad a level for me
Why is it so dificult to get a "good" client on smartphones?
p.s. I don't want to have to change x gazilion email subscriptions/forums addresses again. Specialy when its not the email servers fault.
Menneisyys said:
... There are MUCH better mailer clients: Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
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Having now checked out that link i'm none too impressed. All they seem to say is that Flexmail is the best out there and well, if thats the best then the market has a big hole in it.
Flexmail DOES have a lot on pluses however, its simple lack of ability to reliably connect (no, this is not a signal thing etc) and it's just plain ignorance of playing my "The mail is here..." tune combined with it not listing all my mails, sucks.
I'd like to think i'm doing something wrong, maybe I am, but I can get pocket outlook to connect everytime (just not download) and I can get the other mail clients (including pocket outlook) to play the tune....
This really does reinforce to me that Smartmobile is lacking and wanting in a market where it pushes convergence as its major "daddy".
P.s I downloaded the client from the publishers website about 3 maybe 4 days ago so it shouldn't be a version issue. But then, why should I need a 3rd party app to do what Outlook desktop will do anyway!?!?!?
Again, why mess about with trying to pull email at set intervals which you know is buggy, when you can use push mail?
Simply forward your existing email account to your mail2web account.
I don't see the issue here.
ProfiMail
Menneisyys said:
1. welcome to XDA-Dev
2. while ProfiMail is stable, I'd choose something else. There are MUCH better mailer clients: Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
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I can't agree with this (too) negative statement. In your blog, you have tested Version 2.37. It's 2.60 now !
I had (before finding ProfiMail) Qmail, Flexmail2007 (on my StrTrk and my 2 PDA's). BIG problems e.g. with IMAP, BIG footprint.
Overall, ProfiMail is now my definite first choice (speed, ease of use, auto update, configuration possibilities, etc.) on my smartphone and PDA's.
Therefore, I can really recommend ProfiMail, despite the expert's statements.
Cheers
hrb
ProfiMail
Menneisyys said:
1. welcome to XDA-Dev
2. while ProfiMail is stable, I'd choose something else. There are MUCH better mailer clients: Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
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I can't agree with this (too) negative statement. In your blog, you mention that you have tested Version 2.37. It's 2.60 now !
I had (before finding ProfiMail) Qmail, Flexmail2007 (on my StrTrk and my 2 PDA's). BIG problems e.g. with IMAP, BIG footprint.
Overall, ProfiMail is now my definite first choice (speed, ease of use, auto update, configuration possibilities, etc.) on my smartphone and PDA's.
Therefore, I can really recommend ProfiMail, despite the expert's statements.
Cheers
hrb
Profimail.
Downloaded and installed. Won't recognise any screen taps of any sort on my TyTN. All input has to be done by keyboard and onscreen keyboard. Oh and some screens don't have a "back" or "finish" option meaning that I have to kill the program from the memory applet and start again - avoiding the offending screen for the rest of my life.
Thanks for the recommendation but my verdict "Rubbish".
So, I stand by my previous post, anyone know a GOOD pop client for smartphones?
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Again, why mess about with trying to pull email at set intervals which you know is buggy, when you can use push mail?
Simply forward your existing email account to your mail2web account.
I don't see the issue here.
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'coz I have to sign in to it using a browser or wap session? Unless there is an option I can't see
I want the mail transfer to be out of my hands, I just want to be alerted when there is new mail (15 minutes delay is perfectly adequate for me) and it to be in my "inbox" rather than have to go and check a webpage. If wanted to check a webpage, why would I use Mail2Web as Inbox.com has a web interface already?
I would like to say that I do appreciate everyones input, maybe we will come across the perfect client for me (and others) if we keep plugging away.
Thankyou to all!!
Merry Christmas All!!
You know... I have just recently entered the world of push email and I have to say it's pretty awesome to get my email on my 8525 after only a few seconds.
I had the hardest time getting email to work reliably for me as well. I had the XDA IIs for 2 years and tried Flexmail, Profimail, npop, pocket outlook and none of them would just work reliably.
After much research on this whole push email thing I found mail2web live (based on recommendations from various sources, including this one). All I did was sign up for a mail2web live account and created an email address with them. From there I just set up my gmail account to forward all incoming emails to my mail2web account. And it worked. I have a second gmail account forwarded to them as well... and now I get them both in real time on my phone. Also... the days of email disappearing in pocket outlook are gone thanks to this system.
Here is the link to sign up for mail2webs live service with push email:
https://services.mail2web.com/signup/mail2weblive/mail2webLive_01.asp
I went into active sync and set up the server details to create a push email system. Now I use pocket outlook for my email and I get my notifications when email come in just like I do with SMS.
Server settins for activesync on your pocket pc:
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Activesync > Menu > Configure Server...
Server address: mobile.exchange.mail2web.com
Check the SSL box for encryption.
Username: [email protected]
Password: yourpassword
Domain: ad2
Check save password.
I would go to advanced settings and change it to "Keep the item on your device" as well that way you don't lose anything while syncronizing your information.
The only problems that people have been mentioning are mail2web's lack of free aliasing of your email address. So any email you straight respond to will show up as coming from mail2web.com. I have tried changing gmails settings for this and also activesync's option for your email address, but mail2web still overrides this.
Searching for a solution I have found port88.org. I have signed up for an account based on feedback I have read and anticipate that I will have my account set up with them soon (the main advantage I can see is that they offer the aliasing that I would need). I have not actually used their service as of yet, but I am eager to.
Here is the discussion on port88.org here on xda-developers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-273878.html
Here is the link to the port88.org sign up page:
http://www.port88.org/signup.php
Hope this helps people out. I know one thing... I will NOT go back to pulling email... not after I have experienced this push email thing Finally my pocket pc has reliable email... just as reliable as my SMS now.
Message me if you have any questions.
Mark
Hi Caswell,
thanks very much for the detailed response but sadly I have now learn't I cannot use this method. I can only have one Exchange "server". This phone also sync's with my laptop which is also connected to my office Outlook/Exchange server.
Do I understand this right?
inbox.com news
Hi,
I do not know if you got any further with your search - but maybe it will be soon possible to normally use the WM5 mail-client (or any other one) with our inbox.com mail-account. I saw this announcement recently on the inbox.com that they will anyble access from mobile devies - see attached screenshot.
Peter
Hi all
Its been a while since i have been here ( as i switched to the iphone), while i think the phone is really cool, i miss some of the features of windows mobile ( calender, and productivity functions), i have got used to having my emails with me.
My question is can you do push email on windows mobile and if so how do i go getting more info on this (i tired to search but could not find what i was looking for). on thing i can do on my iphone is get all my work email forwarded to a gmail account this is then shown on my phone, but when i send a reply i shows the address as my orginal work email address, can this be done on windows mobile.
any help would be great as i want to get a tytn II.
cheers guys
Neel
no one knows
I sure if you do some searching on this site you will surely find what you are looking for.
ummm, push email functionality has been available since windows mobile 5.0... talk to your IT guys if you want your work email sent to a windows mobile phone, pretty much all of them have push capability, slower than black berries but still gets the job done MUCH better than polling...
if you're interested in it, theres a java based program called funambol that is/was open source and is still in development i think, not sure... if you run your computer and have experience with ftp file programs and such with a dedicated broadband internet service (nowadays what internet forum user doesn't) this would be a good solution for you... you'll download all your stuff to your own computer, OTA contacts and PIM sync without having to have an enterprise server
it works very well at this point, but i believe its still open source on some platforms, give it a try
http://funambol.com/solutions/devices_htc.php
more specifically, you want myfunambol, the free personal service, here is the link for that
http://my.funambol.com/c/portal/layout?p_l_id=PUB.1001.1
May be this can help : http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/05/29/push-gmail-for-pocketpc-smartphones.html
G'day.
I've been running Exchange 2003 for myself and a couple of winmo using friends for around a year now, but I really want to use Exchange 2010 for its SMS features and better Outlook web access.
Unfortunately due to the hardware requirement of the latest Exchange, it is not financially tenable for me to host it for a small group. So I was wondering if you guys would like to be hosted for?
Exchange 2010 features specific to winmo (6.5+);
-SMS Sync'ing/backup
-SMS response from Outlook/OWA
-Push
Naturally there is the usual exchange features of contacts/calenders/etc. Don't think I will be able to do Voicemail without messing around with a SIP provider.
I'll also add host server using applications that people think would be nice. For me, that would be TrackMe - others may have other ideas which I will have no issue adding provided it is possible, and it can be shared for us all. Will also be able to allow users to point there own domains at the server, and send from them.
I imagine I should be able to allow mailbox sizes to go between 2-6GB, depending on how many people are interested.
So for this poll, would you be willing to pay $5 towards such a service? I'll try serve for as many people as possible, but I won't oversell the space. Could upgrade specs as and when necessary though .
Feel free to ask me any questions about my idea!
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Exchange is good stuff. I don't think that many people realize the many benefits of using it!
Intrested yes
But a few questions, what about reilibility if your server breaks? are we going to have to change our email addresses?? lastly how fast is your connection as you could get quite a few accounts ???
Thanks
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Intrested yes
But a few questions, what about reilibility if your server breaks? are we going to have to change our email addresses?? lastly how fast is your connection as you could get quite a few accounts ???
Thanks
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There are a number of ways you can ensure mail delivery without the intervention of the Exchange server
-1. Setup a secondary mail account, and a forwarder as your second MX entry in your DNS config (provided you have your own domain - 123reg.co.uk do this for example)
-2. Wait. The message will be delivered eventually. SMTP servers tend to retry for awhile until successful.
I doubt I will add our own backup exchange server. Although I will backup mailboxes so if the server does die for whatever reason, they can be restored when it is fixed.
Yes, you will be able to use your own domain to receive, and send mail from the server. Obviously, this won't work with domains you don't own (hotmail, gmail etc). So yes, you can use your own email address. Should that be an issue, I will provide a generic address such as [email protected]
As for connection speed - this is not something I would be hosting on my home connection, although it would handle it fine. Home connections are often blacklisted by destination SMTP servers. The server will be in a datacenter with either a 10mbit or 100mbit uplink, in the country where most our users are. However, it is unlikely I will allow more than 30 users on our server due to mailbox storage considerations. I only want enough people to make the server financially viable for myself, I am not out to profit.
Besides, judging from the poll so far, I don't think I'll have enough users to start!
I actually have a hosting setup for a few XDA users. I charge $50/year with "unlimited" storage - I haven't seen any mailboxes grow uncontrollably thus far, so we'll see how it goes. I have two mailbox servers (for those of you in the know, yes, it is a DAG) to ensure uptime. Both servers have RAID 1 hard drives. One is hosted in a datacenter in Chicago (Ubiquity) using a Dell PowerEdge 1950. The backup server is self hosted at home - so mail access may be slow if the primary goes down.
Let me know if you guys want more details.