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How do you PUSH (email, that is)?

I'm looking to partake of some vendor's service for the purpose of PUSH functionality. What does everyone here use? Their own MSE box, hosted Exchange, 4smartphone.net, web2mail.com, or some other service?
Personal Notes
- 4smartphone.net looks like the best, but you have to pay a year in advance (no monthly payments). Forget that.
- web2mail.com doesn't look like it supports SP2 which enables Push.
- I don't have a license to run my own Exchange box
- Other hosting services chanrge $15+/month and mostly without SP2.
What else are the choices out there? Now that we have ROM's that support it, I would assume MANY people will be looking for a solution on the server side.

Use vgsmail and keep your current mail server.
http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/

Anyone else? This should be a pretty active thread... but only one response.
BTW, I saw someone mentioned www.utica.nl

jeremyjoslin said:
Anyone else? This should be a pretty active thread... but only one response.
BTW, I saw someone mentioned www.utica.nl
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I use 4smartphone.net as of yesterday -
I've set up mail forwarding from my belfast-biker.com domain to the 4smartphone one, it sync beautifully, BUT...!
It syncs lovely between OWA (I think that's it, the web-based Outlook thing) and the Exec, but there seems no link with my normal Outlook, and I'm sure there should be.
Also, when I receive emails, they go to my device, and my OWN, but not to my normal Outlook anymore, I'm sure it's coz I've failed to establish a link I should have done.... any help?

How can we activate push email .

Hi
Is there any way to activate push email in cruise.
Thankx in advance..

Do you have a service (or work) that provides Exchange or push email?

JNGold said:
Do you have a service (or work) that provides Exchange or push email?
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Yes my dear we have "lotus v 7".
Regards

I might be completely off on this one, but it is my understanding that you need an e-mail service running on MS Exchange Server to support Push Mail on the Windows Mobile platform (e.g. mail2web.com or emoze.com). I don't think Lotus can be used in place of MS Exchange Server.

sonus said:
I might be completely off on this one, but it is my understanding that you need an e-mail service running on MS Exchange Server to support Push Mail on the Windows Mobile platform (e.g. mail2web.com or emoze.com). I don't think Lotus can be used in place of MS Exchange Server.
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I think you are correct. I believe Lotus users need to install a 3rd party solution for push email. I could be wrong though.

Yep we use lotus notes at work and its a complete nightmare. There's a lot of 'workarounds' but I've not found anything reliable. The fact that I can't sync my data as well as I could with Outlook is putting my off getting another windows mobile phone.

Seven software has a product that lets you do push from a Domino-based mail server but it requires software to be installed on either your Domino server OR on your desktop. If you install it on your desktop, then you can only get mail pushed while your PC is logged into the network. It's called a "workgroup connector". It works great, but it isn't quite a simple as if you had a Exchange, POP3, IMAP, or OWA accessible mail server. If your Domino instance does have POP3, then you don't need that, and and can simply use the phone software.
Check here for more info:
http://community.seven.com/forum/index.php?forum=true
Download link at top will net you the software.
The Domino forums are here:
http://community.seven.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=4&sid=a109e6df419701ce7a7c3a26413fe986
http://community.seven.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=20&sid=a109e6df419701ce7a7c3a26413fe986
Seven is otherwise great software. Works like a charm.

Kerio Emailserver has activesync enabled, and is superior to Exchange.

hi jomo25 - HTC TYTN II - push Email
Hi jomo25,
Can you please advice any free push eamil software i can use for my new tytn II windows Mobile 6.
Is there is any software like blackberry to push the emails to my phone.

[email protected] said:
Hi jomo25,
Can you please advice any free push eamil software i can use for my new tytn II windows Mobile 6.
Is there is any software like blackberry to push the emails to my phone.
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Check the first link in my post above. Its for Seven software. It works like Blackberry for alot of different accounts and is simply awesome IMO.
What type of account are you trying to push mail from?

I got my orbit 2 yesterday and don't know how to make it talk to my exchange. any ideas?

To the people using push email... how much time your battery works.
I just bought a polaris one week ago, and if I activate push email my battery deads after around five to six hours.
The same happens with my previous phone (an N95).
I wonder if this feature is really usable at all.

m3ta said:
Kerio Emailserver has activesync enabled, and is superior to Exchange.
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i've the Kerio Mailserver here running... but push-mail doesn't really work
is there some additional activation necessary?
does it work with you?

windows push email

I see from another posting in the diamond forum that people have managed to get BB Connect running on the diamond.
At the moment I use system7 on my nokia n95 to get email pushed from my work exchange server, however everyone else in the office has a blackberry (I didn't want one of these hence my finding an alternative solution).
does anyone have any experience of the direct push technology offered with windows mobile 6?
I might use the bbconnect application (if I can get it working) as it appears to do everything I want it to, but I just thought that if there's already an app in WM that does the trick, I might as well stick with that.

You say you have exchange at work?
The push email system will work just nicely with it, you might have to get onto your network admin and see if they offer activesync connection to it but its very likely they do. You sync your email, contacts, tasks and calender with it...works a treat.
I currently use DenaiL's service on here and it works very nicely...you should be up and running pretty swiftly if ur network admin confirms you can use it.
EDIT: Activesync is built into EVERY ROM in windows mobile and this is the primary way to sync the device over the air (via GPRS/HSDPA or wifi to get push email) or via USB.

we have exchange server at work, but I doubt they'll let me add any software (activesync) to it.
Exchange already has the software needed in it, its a native function of exchange to allow a windows mobile device to sync with it.

EAS is a native part of exchange, but it is turned off by default i think.
I know my place have it turned off, despite all the company mobile supporting EAS, and all the employees using HTC devices that natively support it.
Go figure.
I think they want to save a couple of hundred of quid on a certificate, and spend thousands of pounds on corporate intellisync licenses instead.

so my company would have to invest in a new license to enable EAS?
I'm pretty sure they would have to buy a license to allow me to use BBConnect too? I know that we are running 5 or 6 BBs in the company, each one requiring a license....or have I been misled?
thanks, I really want to ensure that my push email will work perfectly on the device when I get it.

I dont own a HTC Touch Diamond or a Touch Pro. I own a HTC Touch and use Hosted Exchange as my primary email service provider. I use the direct-push technology in WM6 and sync with my exchange account. It works like a charm and I have yet to experience any problems with it. I get my email on my Touch within 10 seconds of receiving the email in my inbox.
Memory fades about Exchange 2003, however, I *think* Exchange direct-push is enabled by default on Exchange 2007. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Exchange 2003 w/ SP2 automatically enabled Direct-Push. Same w/ all flavors of 2007. With Exchange 2007, admins DO need to enable Active Sync, but they can do it on a user by user basis if they want to. It shouldn't be a big deal for your IT admins to turn it on for you. Hope this helps.

excellent, thanks for the replies. We are running 2003 SP2, so hopefully in a few days time I might have proper push email. the app I'm currently running (system7) is totally crap at the moment..had nothing pushed for nearly a week!!

Windows Live > stripping "Hotmail" from the branding

This may seem petty to some, but it's a pain to me:
I have a domain hosted by Microsoft, as part of their Office Live setup. Overall it is an arrangement that works very well for me.
Windows Live on my Athena x7510 works exactly as it should, too and I receive my e-mails in just about real time.
BUT on the device the mail account is listed at Hotmail. Yes, I know Windows Live mail uses the Hotmail platform, but the point is MY e-mail address is NOT a Hotmail address.
I have always held the belief that any business using a free e-mail address, such as Hotmail, cannot be serious about itself and portrays an image of being amateurish.
Often, at clients' sites, I may need to show a client a message I've received on my phone, so I don't want any Hotmail bits being displayed.
Any ideas on removing the Hotmail branding?

Am I the ONLY person that wants this changed?

Evidently nobody else has any interest in this!

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc\Hotmail]
"FriendlyName"="BrandAsYouWant"

Hmmm, why not getting yourself a real weghosting + domain + email?

x-X-x said:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc\Hotmail]
"FriendlyName"="BrandAsYouWant"
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And so obvious once its been pointed out! Many thanks!

Junner2003 said:
Hmmm, why not getting yourself a real email rather than HOTMAIL?
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can you not read?
he has real email, but hosted by microsoft, so his phone THINKS its hotmail

rorydaredkign said:
can you not read?
he has real email, but hosted by microsoft, so his phone THINKS its hotmail
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Yes, I can read and have updated my above post for you, so, you can understand me! Played around with that Office Live stuff from Microsoft myself for a while to see how it works. It is absolutely useless if you really want to use it for business.

Junner2003 said:
Hmmm, why not getting yourself a real email rather than HOTMAIL?
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But I HAVE real e-mail! If you cared to read what I wrote, you'd have seen that my site's hosted by Microsoft.
I have masses of bandwidth, various Sharepoint-type web apps and I can custom build many more, I have masses of server storage, I have secure workspaces that I can share, etc. etc. Go have a look at http://smallbusiness.officelive.com/LearnMore/ and you'll see what I mean.
My e-mail is my own and is branded - it ONLY shows as Hotmail on my Athena x7510.
OfficeLive Small Business might not be everybody's cup of tea, but I work for myself and it suits my needs perfectly. Because of what I do I'm mobile very often and I depend heavily on Remote Desktop. I use it to connect to clients' systems, as well as my own back at the office.
Mobile e-mail is essential to me and in this regard Office Live certainly delivers the goods. I run a custom utility on clients' servers and it alerts me by e-mail of anything untoward on such monitored systems. At times I show clients such alerts when on site, meaning I show them the alerts on my x7510. This is why I needed the Hotmail branding removed, because I DON'T use Hotmail.
Makes sense?

Junner2003 said:
Played around with that Office Live stuff from Microsoft myself for a while to see how it works. It is absolutely useless if you really want to use it for business.
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Can I suggest you don't simply use their freeby stuff and go for the big boys choice? Had you done that you'd not have posted a claim that you can in no way support.
Having just completed a rather large MOSS 07 custom implementation for a client (with the bespoke code written in C# using the VS 08 IDE) I know my way around web servers, web services and web sites.
But I run a business, not a hobby, and I don't get paid spending weeks coding a fantastic web app for myself. Instead, I reduce dev time massively by using Office Live. This is why I find your claim that it is useless for business to be extremely ridiculous.
Perhaps you should learn how to interact with web services? Then you could also pull system info off a server using WMI and write it directly to a Windows Live workspace accessible only to your client and yourself. Business means more than owning a desk, you know?

Yes, I know! I understand that not everyone has the know-how which is needed to run his own site. I understand that some people depend on Microsoft doing the job for them, NanoRuler. Even though OL works one way or another, I wouldn't call this a professional setup for a business solution - I believe Germans call thsi "Shuhflickerei".
During the past 15 years, I have not only set up tiny servers but developed and programmed entire internet portals, so, chill out, get a beer and enjoy the tv program ... !

Desktop synchronization of Android just like WM-phones

Hi friends,
Let me put these questions as simple as it can be -
1. is it possible for android to synchronize with the desktop computer
running Win XP?, if yes how? Wm phones can do it seamlessly using
MSActivesync.
2. is it possible to use the desktop's internet connection and browse
the web from the android? (just like WM-phones do with MS Activesync)
3. Is there a way to import all the Windows mobile contacts onto the
Android phone? NOT from google mail-account because I have different
contacts in my phone and gmail. And I would like to import my Phone
contacts onto Android.
THANKS to anyone who answers all/part of the queries.
arefin

arefin said:
Hi friends,
Let me put these questions as simple as it can be -
1. is it possible for android to synchronize with the desktop computer
running Win XP?, if yes how? Wm phones can do it seamlessly using
MSActivesync.
2. is it possible to use the desktop's internet connection and browse
the web from the android? (just like WM-phones do with MS Activesync)
3. Is there a way to import all the Windows mobile contacts onto the
Android phone? NOT from google mail-account because I have different
contacts in my phone and gmail. And I would like to import my Phone
contacts onto Android.
THANKS to anyone who answers all/part of the queries.
arefin
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1. Hopefully google would release a cloud based or an application that allows this, as it would make some lives a little easier.
2. I do not believe there is an app capable of this but it may be possible via bluetooth or use the desktop as an AP. Either way, i don't think you will get any better than you would off of wifi.
3. I found this off a quick search http://www.myhtcphone.com/import-contacts. Dont know if it works or not, but it seems to be like what you want.

1. use google calendar sync.
2. use adb port forwarding with proxy or vpn.
3. export your outlook contacts as csv and import them in gmail.

Not Really!
billc.cn said:
1. use google calendar sync.
2. use adb port forwarding with proxy or vpn.
3. export your outlook contacts as csv and import them in gmail.
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Google calender sync is at it says "for your calender only". No contacts. No idea why they can't just add it. Our lives would be so much easier.

I've had a friend report to me that Google has licensed the ActiveSync technology, so it may be added in a future build of the Android OS.
I believe that the "Hero" version that Haykuro is toying with currently also showed ActiveSync in one of the menus, but I can't vouch for that at the moment.
Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.

TooSlo said:
I've had a friend report to me that Google has licensed the ActiveSync technology, so it may be added in a future build of the Android OS.
I believe that the "Hero" version that Haykuro is toying with currently also showed ActiveSync in one of the menus, but I can't vouch for that at the moment.
Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.
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It's not ActiveSync, that's Microsoft's product. The new Hero build (as well as the stock Magic ROM) have a program called HTC Sync. I don't believe anyone has obtained a copy of the desktop software for that though.

it's two separate things.
google licensed activesync to allow ms exchange clients to sync with google calendar and gmail contacts (see http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/sync.html). you already have this on android.
the ms exchange option appeared in the mail app can only connect to ms exchange servers (not your desktop activesync clients) and can do email only.
htc sync is the only possiblility. (m$ won't be stupid enough to allow you to use activesync on any other platform.)

Your ideas of sync are outdated on Android.
My phone address book syncs to my gmail account, and my email clients address book syncs to gmail. My phone calander syncs to Google Cal, and I find the web based interface to work just fine. But I am sure you can find something to sync whatever your cal program is to google.
All this syncing happens when the phone is in my pocket and is always up to date.
As for browsing the web from the phone, over the usb connector, why? The phone has 3G and wifi.
You can import your contacts as a group into gmail, then set the phone to only display contacts from that group.

arefin said:
Hi friends,
Let me put these questions as simple as it can be -
1. is it possible for android to synchronize with the desktop computer
running Win XP?, if yes how? Wm phones can do it seamlessly using
MSActivesync.
2. is it possible to use the desktop's internet connection and browse
the web from the android? (just like WM-phones do with MS Activesync)
3. Is there a way to import all the Windows mobile contacts onto the
Android phone? NOT from google mail-account because I have different
contacts in my phone and gmail. And I would like to import my Phone
contacts onto Android.
THANKS to anyone who answers all/part of the queries.
arefin
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as everyone else is surely noticing .. google syncs better than the mickeysoft mousesync stuff other people use .. you are automatically synced to the google server and from there you can do anything .. i pull my calendar into outlook or anything else i want .. so .. what was the question again?!?

If you have no 'net connex, 'the cloud' does 2 things: jack & shizzle.
I do, however, wish I could keep my contacts synced with GMail (after my initial .cvs port-over). GCalSync works very well, though!
-bZj

PorchG1 said:
All this syncing happens when the phone is in my pocket and is always up to date.
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That's great, but I don't want to be beholden to a corporation, especially not to a single corp using closed protocols. If kinda defeats the purpose of having an open source phone for some of us. A mechanism to sync to my home server (not desktop), would certainly be welcomed.
PorchG1 said:
As for browsing the web from the phone, over the usb connector, why? The phone has 3G and wifi.
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Ever heard of wireline? I guess you can't conceive of being in an environment without wifi or 3G, they do exist you know? Not to mention that it would be nice to not always have to broadcast everything you do into the ether.

Thanks to everyone who responded
PorchG1 said:
Your ideas of sync are outdated on Android.
My phone address book syncs to my gmail account, and my email clients address book syncs to gmail. My phone calander syncs to Google Cal, and I find the web based interface to work just fine. But I am sure you can find something to sync whatever your cal program is to google.
All this syncing happens when the phone is in my pocket and is always up to date.
As for browsing the web from the phone, over the usb connector, why? The phone has 3G and wifi.
You can import your contacts as a group into gmail, then set the phone to only display contacts from that group.
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Yes, many of the suggestions sounds good for me. I am guessing many of you r not on Windows anymore. My problem is there, I am still on Windows just becoz I play lot of games, install a lots of programs which are only possible on win-ground. I do streaming - didnt find lot of freedom in this area on other OSs.
btw, I will apply your ideas considering them expert opinions becoz OI am just a noob in such things.
Thanks friends,

gSyncit Sync the calander and contacts....

arefin said:
Yes, many of the suggestions sounds good for me. I am guessing many of you r not on Windows anymore. My problem is there, I am still on Windows just becoz I play lot of games, install a lots of programs which are only possible on win-ground. I do streaming - didnt find lot of freedom in this area on other OSs.
btw, I will apply your ideas considering them expert opinions becoz OI am just a noob in such things.
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that didn't make much sense .. "not on Windows" anymore .. my primary OS is Microsoft for the same reason that there is a lot more freedom

MartinFick said:
That's great, but I don't want to be beholden to a corporation, especially not to a single corp using closed protocols. If kinda defeats the purpose of having an open source phone for some of us. A mechanism to sync to my home server (not desktop), would certainly be welcomed.
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Oh, you're not tied to Google. Android is made so that each of its apps can be replaced by a user-made app (of course, as with the lock screen, that's still in the process of being completed). There's a few calendar applications in the market that can do the same thing that the Google Calendar can. Or you could code your own/hire someone to do so.

I don't get G3. And Wifi is only at home. I am in Edge or GPRS most of the time. I was in GPRS when I typed that message. Syncing works just fine.
I can understand not wanting to trust your data to Google. Apps can read and write to the address book and cal. All somebody needs to do is make an on-line sync app.
After years of living with having to sync my palm, the "cloud" syncing Google provides is the next slice bread. But I do backup my phone, just in case.
I still don't see why you want to browse the web on your phone, wired to your laptop. Just use the laptop then. Or create an ad-hoc connection with ICS and do that over wireless.(Not tried it, but I assume it will work.)

MartinFick said:
That's great, but I don't want to be beholden to a corporation, especially not to a single corp using closed protocols. If kinda defeats the purpose of having an open source phone for some of us. A mechanism to sync to my home server (not desktop), would certainly be welcomed.
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When it starts working for the Android, you could use Funambol (http://www.funambol.com/) on your PC and get both a cloud sync (if you so choose) and a desktop sync. I used to use it to sync my SE P990.
The last time I checked, it wasn't working, but maybe it's fixed now.
http://code.google.com/p/funambol/

PorchG1 said:
I still don't see why you want to browse the web on your phone, wired to your laptop. Just use the laptop then.
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I can't speak for the original poster, but I often want to download stuff to my phone, apps, data, ... This is not surfing so to speak, but it still requires a connection. Sometimes wireless is not available for this.
os2baba said:
When it starts working for the Android, you could use Funambol (http://www.funambol.com/) on your PC and get both a cloud sync (if you so choose) and a desktop sync.
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Yes, thanks, I am familiar with that project. Unfortunately I refuse to run a 500MB RAM gorilla (I tried it, it really does use 500MB) on my home server (I run at least 10 virtual servers on my one PC) just to provide a sync framework for one phone. I will not sacrifice that much from the other real server applications that I use. Funambol is really not a good (sane) solution for individuals. I will be investigating the syncevolution framework soon.