WinMo6 upgrading: what about the risks? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development

Cheers guys,
[If you have little time, or don't want to read my story, just read the parts in bold. They are the most important.]
Got a G4 2.01 O2-branded Universal here. It's a wonderful device, but WM5 is getting really outdated. Most new software is coming out only for WM6, and RAM is low here (64MB total, 22.5MB free after soft-reset). I'm interested in flashing Tomal WM6.1 V8.9 Lite, but I am still afraid about the risk of bricking my dear Uni. (If it bricks, I won't have enough money for another device, and Unis are quite rare here in Brazil. Also, I just love my Uni, as many of you.) So, I still have some questions, and I think here is the perfect place to ask them.
1. What about the risks? How can I escape the bricking? I don't have an UPS here.
2. And how can I flash from an SD card? This seems a bit safer than doing it via USB without an UPS. Got a 2GB card here, and a 8GB SDHC, working via PsiDoc's driver.
3. Will the upgrade enhance my free RAM? Or at least keep it that way? (There's no one that upgrades the Uni's RAM to 128MB here in Brazil, and I don't want to disassemble my mainboard and ship it overseas. Afraid of breaking my device. Currently, free RAM after soft-reset is 22.5MB.)
4. When (if) I upgrade, I know my ROM will be cleared out. Got SPB Backup here, will this backup work under WM6.1? Are there any better ways to back my Uni up? I don't have any important documents on ROM.
5. Will everything work fine under WM6.1? Wi-Fi (with WPA-PSK or WPA2-PSK), 3G, IR beaming, Bluetooth OBEX and A2DP, SDHC card support (most important, because I use a 8GB card), and stuff? (3G videocalling doesn't work under WM6.x, this I know, and since I don't use it, it's okay for me.)
6. What's the best WM6 ROM available over there? I've heard Tomal's versions are really good, and that's why V8.9 Lite is my first choice.
Thanks in advance.

rodesiao said:
Cheers guys,
[If you have little time, or don't want to read my story, just read the parts in bold. They are the most important.]
Thanks in advance.
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Ok there is not that much risk as all of have upgraded our rom here... well if you follow the steps properly you will not brick your device... and Tomal's v8.9 is good, stable and fast and free ram more than your current...i haven't personally flashed from sd card but doing it from pc is also safe and fast.... and yes spb back up will work in 6.1... instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567017
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=269118&highlight=windows+mobile
Cheers Rajiv

YIPEEEE!
Just upgraded my Uni with Tomal V8.9. I was a little bit scared during the process but... It worked flawlessly! My Uni rebooted in ~2min30, now it boots in ~35sec! Free RAM now is 28.72MB! Thank you Rajiv for giving me confidence to upgrade and thank you Tomal for uploading such a great ROM!

rodesiao said:
YIPEEEE!
Just upgraded my Uni with Tomal V8.9. I was a little bit scared during the process but... It worked flawlessly! My Uni rebooted in ~2min30, now it boots in ~35sec! Free RAM now is 28.72MB! Thank you Rajiv for giving me confidence to upgrade and thank you Tomal for uploading such a great ROM!
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It's a pleasure to be of some help and that's what we do here, welcome to Universal family mate... and hat's off to Master Chief Tomal...

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dont no what wm6 rom 2 use?

hi all, im about to buy Universal on sat and im not sure what wm6 rom to use, ask me a question about BA roms and i cud tel u the answer but uni?????, wheres that leaked wm6 rom at, or should i use one of the others.. thanks for any help... oh almost 4got do the others hav internet callling like that leaked one...
Hi,
There are 3 WM6 ROMs for the Universal floating around here, namely:
1st: Helmi's ROM version 1.1 (the ORIGINAL ROM where all the others originated). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291875
2nd: JWright's ROM version 2.01.08 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293902
3rd: PDAViet's ROM version 2.00.07 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294097
To be honest ALL are very good and highly stable. To save you all the reading, just try each one and soft reset immediately without installing any application. WHY? Because after a soft reset, you will most likely experience FREEZING that can only be cured by 3-4 soft resets. Each ROM had different results on the Universal. Others claim HELMI's ROM is the best and does not have the FREEZING effect after a soft reset, while others claim JWright's, and some PDAViet's ROM. If you are going to read ALL 3 threads, they all say that they experienced FREEZING after a soft reset. But, it is up to the user to pick which one is the most stable. So, to get you going, just try them one by one and soft reset, whoever does not FREEZE after the first soft reset, STICK TO THAT ROM, for most likely that is the most stable for your UNIVERSAL.
a very very good reply. i haven't tried any other roms other than jwrights .08
rom.
it's good, fast... people are saying less battery with wm6, but i wasn't on wm5 long enough to test that. i hated wm5.
i know jwright has two really good apps. usb hdd, if you copy a lot of song or anime off and on the mobile, usbhdd makes the universal look like flashdrive to your computer.
also there's task manager which closes programs when you press x instead of minimizing them.
when i soft reset i have 26 megs free program memory.
Big Thanks
thanks a lot thts made it so much easier... and again thanks 4 ur time, its people like u tht make ths place so good.. STAR
try 2.01.08 PV You'll be happy with this
I am using JWright's ROM and seems very stable. I love the flash drive program. the only bugs I have encountered are 1. the freezing after reset (every rom has this I am sure) 2. now and than I loose connection to mt bt headset and have to turn on/off to re connect. The rom is very quick and so far I have no reason to switch. Good luck and keep us posted on the rom you chose and why.
DarkForce ROM is the BEST for me!
I have used all ROM versions.....
Helmi's ROM is OK, but DarkForce is PERFECT...
Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298020
Regards,
****
d.zevenbergen said:
I have used all ROM versions.....
Helmi's ROM is OK, but DarkForce is PERFECT...
Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298020
Regards,
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can u make video call with the darkforce rom? dekyprio..
RICHIE10979 said:
hi all, im about to buy Universal on sat and im not sure what wm6 rom to use, ask me a question about BA roms and i cud tel u the answer but uni?????, wheres that leaked wm6 rom at, or should i use one of the others.. thanks for any help... oh almost 4got do the others hav internet callling like that leaked one...
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My advice! don't use any. stick with your service provider ROM. This is my experience, YMMV. Unless of course you like to play with it and not use your phone seriously.
That's what I do but i always go back to my ISP ROM. It is stable, no hangs, no freezing and maximum amount of RAM. No useless third party aplictions, and everything just works as you would expect.
It is OK to use these ROMS for experimentation. any missing features, can be easily puchased or downloaded for free; such as html in emails (qmail), PIE a little better in ROM 6 but not much. The usb stuff is useful too but you can do the same with activesync (i.e. transfer files etc..).
that's my 2 cents...
dutchschultz said:
a very very good reply. i haven't tried any other roms other than jwrights .08
rom.
it's good, fast... people are saying less battery with wm6, but i wasn't on wm5 long enough to test that. i hated wm5.
i know jwright has two really good apps. usb hdd, if you copy a lot of song or anime off and on the mobile, usbhdd makes the universal look like flashdrive to your computer.
also there's task manager which closes programs when you press x instead of minimizing them.
when i soft reset i have 26 megs free program memory.
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and design options are comming for it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299561

is there newer wm6 rom than 1.1?

hi all,
is there newer wm6 rom than 1.1? if i am not mistaken now all wm6 rom available in this forum is v1.1 (helmi,jwright,darkforce,etc.).
rgds,
jwright and i think darkforce are not based on 1.1. neither are my beta roms (but you can't have yet, setill a few bugs )
I'm still really dissapointed with all of the WM6 ROM releases, the memory management is absolutely dire compared to WM6 on the Wizard.
Running the same apps, I get about 17 to 20mb free RAM on my Wizard, and it doesn't seem to suffer from leaks anywhere near as bad.
On the Universal, after a day of use, it's down to 8mb.
I know it caches more for graphics, but it's still pretty poor.
I guess untill more is commercially released for things to be borrowed from, I'm stuck with it though.
just wait a few days maybe a week, then i should ahve a MUCH better rom.
AlanJC said:
I'm still really dissapointed with all of the WM6 ROM releases, the memory management is absolutely dire compared to WM6 on the Wizard.
Running the same apps, I get about 17 to 20mb free RAM on my Wizard, and it doesn't seem to suffer from leaks anywhere near as bad.
On the Universal, after a day of use, it's down to 8mb.
I know it caches more for graphics, but it's still pretty poor.
I guess untill more is commercially released for things to be borrowed from, I'm stuck with it though.
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I agree the memory drops to 8-9mb even if the device is on standby.
Wm6 drawback.
aniel1 said:
I agree the memory drops to 8-9mb ieven if the device is on standby.
Wm6 drawback.
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I don't have that kind of problem.
After using some apps and free ram after I get between 17 and 19, sometimes 20Mb.
I've Wisbar, pocketbreeze and ilauncher running on today.
Cheers.
Well, I only run PocketBreeze & iLauncher on my today screen, and regular apps are Live Messenger, MS Reader, Pocket Word & Excel, and Pocket Informant.
These same apps on my Wizard don't cause a problem, but on the Universal they do, on every single WM6 ROM.
Some last longer than others before the memory goes down that far, but in general, the Universal WM6 builds have issues that other devices running WM6 don't suffer from.
ultravox said:
I don't have that kind of problem.
After using some apps and free ram after I get between 17 and 19, sometimes 20Mb.
I've Wisbar, pocketbreeze and ilauncher running on today.
Cheers.
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Yes I do get upto 18mb . but there is gradual decline in memory. I surely feel there is a leak in all wm6 roms. Lets hope in future we will get a good solution to this.
Same frustrations until just the last several days. Now using arifqur's HK ROM... there's no real leakage (24MB->20MB), and it seems otherwise stable. Very fast, as long as I don;t use WA2.
Recommended!
Midget_1990 said:
just wait a few days maybe a week, then i should ahve a MUCH better rom.
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cant hardly wait. pls lemme noe when u have it ready
I'm using Hemi's WM6 1.1 with no memoryleak problems what so ever. Using WA2+WAD, phonealarm, P+, PB, weatherpanel and many other apps installed.
main memory: 10.56 and internal storage 19.92
Midget_1990 said:
just wait a few days maybe a week, then i should ahve a MUCH better rom.
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how's the new rom test going?
not quite ready yet
trust me when its good to go you'll know...
But what would these forums be without update requests, and then countless thank you, and this is the best rom ever posts
AlanJC said:
But what would these forums be without update requests, and then countless thank you, and this is the best rom ever posts
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lol, some humor is always welcome. Also nice to star the day. he he

Mo3ulla 5.2.19949_19949.1.2.0[A2.0]

this release holds on some peoples wish ( not me ) .. and all you may say thx to him .. becose they buy .. this rom version and with collective decision wanna to release it to all ..
valerii (donate and device )
French
VecH
gadzhi06
v0vik aka Vladimir Polishchuk (according to icq data)
changings
1.flashdisk ... 22.5mb
2.extrom unlocked by default
3. due some reason voip functionality deleted
NOTICE
AFTER HR AND SCREEN CALIBRATION DO IMIDEATELY SR
64mb unis
http://rapidshare.de/files/39952988/nkA2.0_64.rar.html
128mb unis
http://rapidshare.de/files/39952987/nkA2.0_128.rar.html
additional releases and rom updates may be available only via donations .. 36.95usd per 1 rom release ..
Very fast rom
Some people like me??? I want to try it right now
Thanks for this new ROM Mo3ulla!
What are the diferences to PDAViets same built ROM?
A little more info could be useful.
hmmm at least this one work on both unis
mo3ulla,
Great job!!!
Free RAM
"Usual" question... Free RAM at startup?
Thanks!
dagosjt,
Free RAM about 28mb after Hard reset on 64mB Uni
really it's cool ROM , thanks dear.
SD/MMC doesn't get back alive
its a gr8 rom, runs extreemly fast, but i have a problem, it seems to use the SDHC drivers, so if the device is left and goes into suspend, my storage card (MMC) doesn't get back to life causes stirage accessing programs to hang, thanks
anyone got the SD/SDHC switch-over tool which comes with many of the other roms
otherwise, love the speed of this rom.
thanks
very nice rom
mo3ulla .thank you very much for youre hard woked
this rom very fast and every thing fine, sdhc 8 g no problem.
I test Now....
Q: The Rom is compatible with 16Gb SD Card?
Very nice rom. REally fast and stable. No issues with SDHC. Its worth trying. Im sure you guys will love this. after 18 hours of usage no hangups or call drop. getting 35mb free storage. Looks really promising. But Wireless not connecting. (WPA TKIP) . Bluetooth not checked yet
SD/SDHC switch-over support
can anyone please guide me onto how to use the old drivers that support SD/MMC rather than SDHC, because my memory card doesn't get back alive after a suspend state.
thanks lads
Thank Mo3ulla
ROm works well, fast&stable
Thank for this rom Work fine and it is stable and fast.
Just a little minor problem : My basic image is shifted upwards...
I've already put the question: Are SD Card of 16 GB compatible?
Thanks for the work.
ya i too noticed the lady at the bootloader screen to be shifted up, but its not anything to complain about, the image is very stable and fast, but 4 me i still have an issue with the my 2GB MMC, i hope someone can give me the old sd drivers rather than the new HC ones
cheers
mo3ulla said:
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additional releases and rom updates may be available only via donations .. 36.95usd per 1 rom release ..
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-O_
Right ...
Bright.Light said:
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Right ...
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If you don't have device (and you don't planning to have it), you need some motivation to make new ROMs ... IMHO
Mo3ulla,
nice rom as usually. One problem - I use Pocket Controller and in this rom there is no posible to get its configuration. Any idea? Could you so kind and show the solution?
Sorry, I mean your ROM 5.2.19588_19588 [v1.5]
regards
and have a fun with your toshiba

Which is a Best ROm WM6 UNiversal?

Which is a Best ROm WM6 UNiversal
test post test rom here
thanks
Different ROMs have different reasons to be liked. It depends what you want from a ROM as the cookers have put different things in them. All of them are very good.
It's best you check out each of the ROM forums and see what best suits you.
Personally, I've installed quite a few of them to find which suits my needs the best.
ll_ppl said:
Which is a Best ROm WM6 UNiversal
test post test rom here
thanks
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There are a lot of threads about this
Personally I would recommend Tomal ROM´s definetly
Good luck, and READ the Wiki
Since I Install Each Rom > going to be hanging or have some problems
I wanna to know what is the best Rom That Most Of Users Tested It, And anyway is Good ROM
Please Introduce me a Rom.please Tell Me The ROM Names With Link For Download
ll_ppl said:
Since I Install Each Rom > going to be hanging or have some problems
I wanna to know what is the best Rom That Most Of Users Tested It, And anyway is Good ROM
Please Introduce me a Rom.please Tell Me The ROM Names With Link For Download
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My recommendation is that you READ and LEARN as most of all here made it when entered this site by first time, that´s the best way for you to know what is the best ROM.
Good luck
It's your choice
Take Tomal's V8.2 and be happy.
Or simply try all self.
orb3000 said:
There are a lot of threads about this
Personally I would recommend Tomal ROM´s definetly
Good luck, and READ the Wiki
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Same thought
try this
try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421102 not bad at all stable so far and fast
It does not exist yet
<Sorry for lengthy one.. but its one of the FAQ time and again asked and clarified>
Seriously..
A perfect super ROM that is WM6 or WM6.1 for Universal does not EXIST as device is not made for WM6 and above, whatever available is simply ported and made to work for Universal by tweeking the stuff.
The best ROM for Universal is undoubtedly the one that came with it.
I own Uni since 2005 and really have not faced any issues with the stuff that came with it and everything just works as expected.
Everything else simply works for a period till another version out or little longer till you get equally frustrated with it, something or other will be wrong with any of the cooked ROMs for simple reason that the cookers may not allocate equal amount of time/resources for developing and testing like M$ .
If you dont bother about the missing/nonworking features of a ROM that is cooked that contain most of your requirements, simply flash it and use it.
Feedback the comments/findings back through this forum, if cooker finds time or feels need to fix them, look for another version from them.
In my observation since I joined (last two months) and comments by experienced users who joined this site years back almost same and the efforts are to make Uni live longer and keep the enthusiasm of cookers and their passion to share their work and knowledge. Nothing is being claimed in response except some good thank you messages and encouraging notes and small donations to keep them singing. So its all your call as rightly disclaimed by cookers
I am not agree that "The best ROM for Universal is undoubtedly the one that came with it."
Perhaps could be the more stable but not the best, as wm6.1 comes with a lot of new features to take more advantage of devices.
Wanted: ROM WM6.x for Uni with support for Scandinavian keyboard and BT Sound
Hi all,
After scanning the forum for this topic in the last 2 days (it has been raining all weekend, and the wife is going horsbackriding, nothing else to do...), I decided to put up this post.
A lot has been said about "What is the best WM6.x ROM for Uni". I am still running on the original ROM and WM5. No complaints. Only this that I would like to see improved is the available RAM for storage. When installing software on my Jasjar, I always install on SD when possible. But som software is just screaming for installation on the device. And this makes installing new software always a challenge.
Right now this is what I have in memory:
Storage: total 43.50, in use: 39.04, free: 4.46
Program: total 50.16, in use: 28.78, free: 21.38
So I started wondering if one of the new WM6.x ROMs would improve my memory problem? I use Opera, skype and msn the oftest of all default windows programs. All other are the ones I purchased/downloaded like GPS/navigation, mediaplayers, weather, alarm, backup and wifi scanner, among other.
What I find most important when going for a new ROM, is better memory, BT sound (don't need a2dp, I have a Jabra BT8040 that does the trick for me in mono), and Scandinavian keyboard. Oh yes, and real time push email. Guess this means I need at the least AKU2.
Now this last one I am not sure if the keyboard option is supported per default. I use the sym button to get access to the special characters like ø,æ and å.
That my Jasjar gets the look of a Touch Pro 2 is a nice bonus, but not a must ;-). I am so pleased with my Jasjar, even after 4 years of daily usage, I still am convinced that there is still no worthy alternative available. Even though I have been flirting with the Touch Pro 2....
So guys, what are my options?
Well the options you have
1) use the same rom LOL
2) Use the rom's here some of them have more free storage...
i'm flashed to thingonaspring v1.1 which gives you 40.69 mb free memory after flashing.... And the one with most free storage memory is contullas rom... but after flashing to this rom you would need to do doc format every time you reflash another rom and it is bit old build now...
3)Or simply get bigger sd card
4) well about the looks there are lots of GUI software like WAD2, rltoday, home++ , SPB mobile shell, etc so use some of those themes for new looks..
Been using Tomal 8.81 for a while and so far fast and stable, recommend.
I can recommend Tomal's 8.5 too. I'm using it for several months without problems: fast and stable.

Best ROM for imate jasjar

Which is the Best ROM for imate jasjar
Tomal's 8.5
Here we go again...
niketkumar said:
Which is the Best ROM for imate jasjar
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There is no such thing as "best ROM"
All will depend on your personal needs.
What is best to me not necessary should be for you.
Said that, enter to ROM section and read a bit to know users comments, then make your choice
On my opinion Tomal 8.2, 8.5 and 8.9 are the more stable and great performance, but it´s up to you to find out your "best"
Or...............
Or you can check every members signature where they proudly announce their favourite ROM!
but i dunno whether my jasjar is suitable for 64 mb rom or 128 mb rom
If Uni is original (never sent to upgrade Ram) you have and original 64Mb Universal
can i downgrade to my original ROM DOPOD 900 from factory?
or there's problem if i do that?
thx
4NdY
No problem, you can downgrade same way as you flash a new ROM
orb3000 said:
No problem, you can downgrade same way as you flash a new ROM
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thx orb...
cassette_kusute, have the got the
factory ROM thu?
Simon_WM said:
cassette_kusute, have the got the
factory ROM thu?
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sorry, i mean back to the wm5 like dopod 900 has wm5 before
...best rom it's missing
Why is Tomal's ROMs not available in any of the links?
orb3000 said:
There is no such thing as "best ROM"
All will depend on your personal needs.
What is best to me not necessary should be for you.
Said that, enter to ROM section and read a bit to know users comments, then make your choice
On my opinion Tomal 8.2, 8.5 and 8.9 are the more stable and great performance, but it´s up to you to find out your "best"
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I have seen a lot said about Tomal's ROMs as being stable and very reliable, but every link to get the ROMs are always broken! Dead ends. Can someone please provide a very assured link to download Tomal's 6.x versions please?
Jaazmaster
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orb3000 said:
Welcome to forums
The secret is Reading and Searching!
Just click on my sig link and you´ll find´em all
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Just to help all the noobs who cant read the forum:
Cooked ROMs​
Best ROM for iMate JasJar (HTC Universal, Exec, ...)
I would have to agree that Tomal's 8.5 is the best of the posted ROMs. Not perfect, but it is very stable, good performing, yet fresh enough to run most new apps.
Above 8.5, there's all this annoying stuff in the UI, and performance and memory usage take a hit. Below 8.5, certain niceties like drag-scrolling disappear, the dialer looks ugly, and fundamental apps such as Microsoft's Facebook won't install.
There are a few non-Tomal ROMs out there - one of them, a WM5-based version, is really very good, and I used it for weeks. But for me, 8.5 with WM6.1 is the best compromise.
It looks like I'll be staying with this ROM, and staying with my iMate JasJar, until a similar or better big-keyboard big-screen phone running Windows Phone 7 becomes cheap enough.
Cheers
a
First I installed luca16thebig's light ROM 6.1, I found it really awesome as it was really fast and stable in the beginning. But as the time passed I realized that my battery is draining a lot quicker and also the mobile started to RESTART itself once every hour. The last thing which forced me to reflash the device was when I wanted to configure GPRS and no matter what I did it didn't want to connect.
Afterards I installed "TML v8.7.1 21028 regular 64MB", and so far everything is working fine, though its just been 2 days. GPRS is good and battery time is better.
Things I am not liking is the non availability of MMS inside the ROM and also I would really want to disable Auto Time Sync feature somehow.
Apart from this I believe it is so good. But I will flash "TML89_WM61_21048_REGULAR_64MB" or "TML89_WM61_21048_LITE_64MB" tomorrow just to check whats new in there
I hope it helped someone
Have a look through ROM thread, you can disable timesync by deleting from REG startup. MMS can be downloaded as cab, use Dutty's - I've posted it somewhere.
Thanks for the prompt response, I am using Arcsoft - do you think Dutty's is better ? I am going to search the thread for Timesync registry hack..

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