Can we use the ROMs that are already available or do we have to wait for CDMA ROMs to be released?
ROMs for the GSM model are only for the GSM model you could cause damage to your device if you use those.
You might want to head over to PPCgeeks to check out some ROMs as there are a few already out. I am sure there will be many more released this weekend once everyone sees that HSPL is released.
cdma roms
Here are some cdma roms that are out now. http://thewingster.com/tp2cdmaroms.aspx
dude go to ppcgeeks.com that is cdma land!!!!
I've been flashing roms for about a year and a half...ppcgeeks.com is where the cdma heads are...including me...well...normally lol...they are down right now.
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This rom is totally different from the UK version which I have on my D2. Notice the option to use 3G 1900/850. Does this mean the D2 has a way to access those bands in the US already in the hardware??
Wow, good eye. I switched it (WWE edition rom) to the 1900+850 one but no 3G icon for me. I know it is finnicky in my area so possibly it might work. If it does then I might not sell it after all.
please 3g.......
I know! That is exactly what I am thinking. If there is a way to turn on those bands I will hold on to this one for a bit longer. There is a chance they are different like with the X1a and X1i, but I really hope not. Once we get HardSpl I want to get my hands on that Rom.
I saw those bands. I went to AT&T store and tried a card from an employee there. NO 3G. The bands being in there do make me wonder if 3G will work but all say it is Hardware related and not Software. That is true but the Radio could have those bands but they are just disabled. Was this not the case for the diamond or something and HTC had on the website a ROM to make it QuadBand rather than triband. How it originally shipped?
The other discussion is here.
Can the phone really be that different from the Dev Phone for T-Mobile G1?
Seems like it would be desirable model for US 3G (AT&T). No interest in this model?
-James
Because no one likes Canadians.
vr24 said:
Because no one likes Canadians.
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lmaoo..yeah that might just be it..haha
there are a few people here who have the rogers phones and have flashed hero and other roms to their phone just cause it does not say rogers does not mean it won't work be careful cause you don't want a paperweight
I'm on U.S. AT&T 3G.
But thanks for the pointless racist comment that does nothing to address the question.
rogers roms
Last time I checked there were several Custom Rogers Roms.
Did you look at soulife's ?
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523608)
Is there a specific modifcation that can be done to the custom roms to get them to load on the Rogers Dream?
T-Mobile's lack of 3G coverage was not desirable to me so I imported one.
I know Cyanogen mentioned somthing about it but I can't find any information otherwise.
-James
enomther said:
Last time I checked there were several Custom Rogers Roms.
Did you look at soulife's ?
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523608)
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Aren't these rogers roms ported for use on the TMobile G1? AFAIK, those don't actually run on a real Rogers Dream, but if I'm wrong, I'de be happy.
-James
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removed ... since I was uninformed.
~cheers~
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So let me get this straight ... you imported a Rogers Dream so that you could use AT&T in the states ? umk (There are ways to unlock the TMO G1's for AT&T use)
Eitherway ... as far as I know, if you're rooted and have a nice recovery image installed, like Cyanogen's ... you should be able to (with no problem) load a custom Roger's ROM like soulife's (which I liked very much, when I used it).
Dream hardware is dream hardware ... doesn't really matter where you got it.
You may need the HardSPL though.
~cheers~
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This is wrong, and there is a whole thread in the Dream forum about it. The Rogers Dream is slightly different hardware and we can't build custom kernels for it yet. Its being worked on, though.
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This is wrong, and there is a whole thread in the Dream forum about it. The Rogers Dream is slightly different hardware and we can't build custom kernels for it yet. Its being worked on, though.
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I stand fully corrected then!
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So let me get this straight ... you imported a Rogers Dream so that you could use AT&T in the states ? umk (There are ways to unlock the TMO G1's for AT&T use)
Eitherway ... as far as I know, if you're rooted and have a nice recovery image installed, like Cyanogen's ... you should be able to (with no problem) load a custom Roger's ROM like soulife's (which I liked very much, when I used it).
Dream hardware is dream hardware ... doesn't really matter where you got it.
~cheers~
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Cyonegens roms don't run on the Rogers, he even has stated as much. He had a custom boot iamge at one point for the Rogers DReam but pulled it because it didn't actually work.
I would agree, in theory, G1 hardware is G1 hardware, but something is different about the device some how. It is a newer revision of the G1 and uses a different amplifier for the different 3G frequencies so who knows what other minor tweaks were done.
Yes I imported one. And I also own a developer phone which runs on AT&T. Now I think it's obvious to anyone that Edge speeds for data or less than desirable. This is simply an unfortunate state of T-Mobile undesirable 3G deployment which is hardly anywhere useful, and AT&T much larger deployment with larger spectrum assets in many markets. AT&T is no Verizon, but it's more solid than T-Mobile any day, where I live for sure. Maybe when T-Mobile goes 3G here later this year I will reconsider but for now I'm happy with AT&T, not to mention my grandfathered data plan is less than T-Mobiles and I'm constantly hitting 1 - 1.5 mbit on AT&T's 3G around here.
-James
Maybe google hates Canadians. I find it odd that there is no developer phone with North American 3G (AT&T/Rogers) frequencies.
-James
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Cyonegens roms don't run on the Rogers, he even has stated as much. He had a custom boot iamge at one point for the Rogers DReam but pulled it because it didn't actually work.
I would agree, in theory, G1 hardware is G1 hardware, but something is different about the device some how. It is a newer revision of the G1 and uses a different amplifier for the different 3G frequencies so who knows what other minor tweaks were done.
Yes I imported one. And I also own a developer phone which runs on AT&T. Now I think it's obvious to anyone that Edge speeds for data or less than desirable. This is simply an unfortunate state of T-Mobile undesirable 3G deployment which is hardly anywhere useful, and AT&T much larger deployment with larger spectrum assets in many markets. AT&T is no Verizon, but it's more solid than T-Mobile any day, where I live for sure. Maybe when T-Mobile goes 3G here later this year I will reconsider but for now I'm happy with AT&T, not to mention my grandfathered data plan is less than T-Mobiles and I'm constantly hitting 1 - 1.5 mbit on AT&T's 3G around here.
-James
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Yes I was corrected, sorry about the confusion.
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Yes I was corrected, sorry about the confusion.
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But the answer is likely in the cyanogen's correction on the matter ... if they can't build custom kernels ... that would explain the lack of ROMs.
enomther said:
But the answer is likely in the cyanogen's correction on the matter ... if they can't build custom kernels ... that would explain the lack of ROMs.
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A few people (PhaseBurn in particular) are trying hard to get the specs/code needed to do this. We are kind of at the mercy of HTC right now.
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I'm on U.S. AT&T 3G.
But thanks for the pointless racist comment that does nothing to address the question.
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Are Canadians really a different race?
Glad you got your question answered though
I am confused on why there is an entirely different section for the TP2 CDMA versions. It's especially confusing considering that it is a global phone that can run on both CDMA and GSM. So what's the difference?
Does a CDMA version of the phone have a different OS somehow, which is why there aren't any CDMA roms out yet? Would it screw up my phone to install a GSM ROM to my TP2 (Verizon)?
Any help would be appreciated.
cdma and gsm are 2 different cell phone technologies. kind of like vhs and betamax. 2 different ways to provide cell phone service. normally your phone uses one or the other. sprint and vzw use cdma while att and tmobile use gsm. this is all related to the built in hardware not the os. the att version only has gsm built in and can only use gsm's network. to compete with with gsm providers bragging about world wide coverage vzw and sprint have world phone version that have both cdma and gsm radio's built in. they are locked to use the cdma radio in the usa but can roam on gsm networks while traveling abroad. they have similar os's but are different enough that you can not use the gsm version on a cdma phone unless it has been modified for it. the cooked roms you see in the cdma section i believe are gsm roms that have been modified and tweaked to work on the cdma phones. since the gsm version has been out longer the 6.5 os has already been release officially. sprint and vzw will eventually get a 6.5 os from htc which they will tweak and cripple to their liking and then they will each release their own version. also remember these roms contain both new os versions and radio software. the main danger of loading the wrong version is probably with the radio. the gsm version will not have the information to run with sprint or vzw's cdma radio hardware. if you want to load a new rom you need to use the tweaked ones here in the cdma section or until vzw releases a new rom.
It's coming together..
Alright, so I am beginning to understand about the differences, thank-you so much for your information. But I am wondering if there is someplace that I could go and read up and the specific differences and how to start helping tweak roms, write them, or such. I am interested in actually coding, or however the people here make their programs for cell phones. Any websites that you could refer me to or anyone here who is looking to take on a student?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+between+CDMA+and+GSM
Nice.
Alright, I get the picture. From now on I shall not ask questions to which I can find answers on Google.
That link was very cool by the way, I have no idea how you made it so I could then interact with that search query.
They're just two different types of technologies.
The main difference is what frequencies they operate on.
On the TP2 the difference is deeper then just the radio technology that you can Google.
Externally it means you have a headphone jack on the CDMA version.
Internally there is an FM radio on the GSM versions. And the CDMA version as noted has a GSM radio secondary to it. And some GSM versions have a front facing camera.
That helps a bit, but not all the way
Alright, so I can understand the differences in technology that comes with the two diffferent carriers. But why are the ROMs so different between CDMA and GSM? If there are only a couple of technology differences, shouldn't it be easy to change that and make them work? Or does have it to do more with the radio frequencies and coming out with a working ROM that makes them still be able to connect? If so, I thought the different Radio installers came in different packages and were installed after the ROM.
Thanks for all the info.
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I am confused on why there is an entirely different section for the TP2 CDMA versions. It's especially confusing considering that it is a global phone that can run on both CDMA and GSM. So what's the difference?
Does a CDMA version of the phone have a different OS somehow, which is why there aren't any CDMA roms out yet? Would it screw up my phone to install a GSM ROM to my TP2 (Verizon)?
Any help would be appreciated.
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WTF? There are plenty of CDMA Roms, check out forum.PPCGeeks.com it's the main CDMA Windows Mobile forum. smh
I guess I was looking in the wrong place...
Alright, I will go check out over there. I was looking around here for a CDMA ROM, and I just didn't see any. Thanks for the point out.
my fault re-readin what I wrote I see that I'm coming off rude I really wasn't trying to be. Here's some Rom tips once you unlock for Sense 2.1 (with weather clock and fullscreen weather animations) go with MightyRom, it's by far the fastest most stable with great battery life that I've tried. For Sense 2.5 you can try JuicyRom or EnergyRom I found Juicy's to be very fast but 2.5 just doesn't compare to the stability and speed of 2.1. Good luck.
No worries
No problem, I thought it was just becuase I was a new user asking obvious questions. Thanks for the help.
Why does my TP2 only flash Mightymike roms only? ive tried energy roms and and leo evo3 rom ad it jus stays on the TP2 black start screen..
what am i doing wrong.. or everyone else doing right?
Im a Englishman who has bought a TP2 from America on the Sprint network.. and i class my fone as a CDMA.. not a gsm.. i hope that is correct...
I hope that you are not flashing any ROMs in "this" particular forum as they are all GSM. There is a CMDA section that might help, but in reality you need to head to ppcgeeks.com as they are more CDMA based.
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Why does my TP2 only flash Mightymike roms only? ive tried energy roms and and leo evo3 rom ad it jus stays on the TP2 black start screen..
what am i doing wrong.. or everyone else doing right?
Im a Englishman who has bought a TP2 from America on the Sprint network.. and i class my fone as a CDMA.. not a gsm.. i hope that is correct...
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Yes you are correct. Since your phone is a CDMA phone, the only roms you can flash are the ones for CDMA.
I'm pretty sure NRG cooks for CDMA TP2 as well. Check it out from the CDMA forum if you like his work.
And to add on, MightyMike only cooks for CDMA.
you guys are the best.. soz i keep putting it in the wrong place.. jus put on a new rom.. but since u guys are in the know..
could u tell me your TOP 3 ROMs to flash on... there is no real thread to list the roms.. just recommending others.. im looking for more concise info.. Just the names.. an i can go find them myself...
For the CDMA phone the most popular ROMS are Mighty, Energy, and Juicy.
Just look here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98
The ROMS here on XDA tend to be for the GSM versions of the phone so you shouldn't flash those...since Mighty ROM is CDMA only it was probably the only CDMA ROM that you flashed
Yeap! What they said!
c0nv1ct77 said:
Why does my TP2 only flash Mightymike roms only? ive tried energy roms and and leo evo3 rom ad it jus stays on the TP2 black start screen..
what am i doing wrong.. or everyone else doing right?
Im a Englishman who has bought a TP2 from America on the Sprint network.. and i class my fone as a CDMA.. not a gsm.. i hope that is correct...
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The touch pro from Sprint is a CDMA phone, but has GSM capabilities... Is Vodafone a CDMA carrier? or is it a GSM Carrier?
If it is a GSM Carrier, then you must have installed your SIM...this may complcate things....
I see you have JuicyRom installed....I am using MightyMikes rom, and it works better than the stock Sprint Rom...
You must make sure that you do the correct provisioning for Vodafone
Another post on here will direct you download :
Vodafone UK:
Vodafone_Contract_UK_PPC_V2.0.CAB
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=6777)
I have attached the file for your convenience.
I do not have Vodafoen, so I can not vouch for this .cab...I found it with the help of my good friend Google.
wow thanks.. this hopefully should help with my MMS woes as well..
ill give it a try and get back to you!!!
I have a US Cellular Branded HTC 7 PRO I have flashed the phone with HSPL and I have flashed it with custom roms before but they always break something MMS doesn't work, DATA connection doesnt work while roaming ,etc. I have modified a US Cellular Rom to Dev unlock it and then updated it to 7740 with a cab and added WP7 root tools to it then i did cab updates till i got the phone to 7.10.8773.98. But I want to know Is there any way to add a full unlock to my US Cellular Rom and enable internet connection sharing or do only certain people know how to add those to ROMS?
So long as you haven't changed the phone from a different carrier, all of those things should work so long as the rom you are using has the operatorpkg (operator package) of your carrier. I think many roms are based on Sprint and maybe Alltel, and that these cooks haven't made versions of their rom with different operatorpkgs. Once I get my Pro 7 sorted (I'm hoping that will happen this weekend), I plan on a port of my XevRev rom for all Gold_C phones (US Cell, Alltel, and Sprint). That means three different carrier versions of what I want to basically be the same rom.