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WM6.1 for HTC S720/5800/Fusion/Libra/Boss

I am on Telecom NZ and have a Okta Boss, which is the HTC 5800/Libra/S720 etc. Which is CDMA/EVDO.
It's WM6.0 smartphone
Why is there no dedicated thread to this HTC phone in the smartphone area?
Would I be successful in using the VOX WM6.1 rom on this device?
How can I get into the bootloader to backup the current ROM, I tried using Power+Camera but it still boots into the phone.

I basicly want to know the same thing :-/

How many times it has to be sayed ... ROM for some device is only for this device. It won't work on any other device so ROM for Vox is only for Vox and it won't work on other devices

Man, your topic got me excited there for a second since I'm on VZW with a 5800. I'd love to see somebody out there create a ROM for our phones with 6.1 on it.

to be 100% honest, i dont think many people care about the CDMA versions, its really because CDMA providers are all garbage and lock everything down

pr5owner said:
to be 100% honest, i dont think many people care about the CDMA versions, its really because CDMA providers are all garbage and lock everything down
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Wow, aren't we being just a little harsh? Some of us in the US at least stick to the CDMA carriers since they, ya know, tend to have a lot better coverage area. The whole major aspect of owning a cell phone.

I think its not fair, The members on here are making ROMs for the S710 which is a hell alot older then the S720. Who cares what type of phone it is. All people want (Including ME) is Windows Mobile 6.1. Its not that big of a request.

pr5owner said:
to be 100% honest, i dont think many people care about the CDMA versions, its really because CDMA providers are all garbage and lock everything down
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About that comment, Its funny, Becuase the HTC S720/Libra made it into the top 25 most popuular Smart Phones. And has stayed there since its release. If anything, I think that all the ROM hackers/makers should stop making ROMs for the S710, Which is a much older and crapper phone (No Offence) and start making ROMs for the newer and better ones.

the S710 was replaced by the S730 a long time ago, the S730 blows away the 720, and yes the ppl like CDMA because of coverage not becuase of what phones the provider has.
but im in a major city where coverage with GSM is actaully better than CDMA, and the CDMA phones we have here are all total crap. the rom that comes with the telus S720 is the worst windows OEM rom ive ever seen. its slow, its HIGHLY unreliable, it requires resets near daily also it doesnt even have MMS capability. telus for some stupid reason didnt include the arcsoft client.
this is why i say not very many people care about it, it CHEAPER and easier to get a PDA phone and just throw in a sim card.
also im waiting for a rom for the S720 as well but i know it will never come, i need a super lite rom with no telus crap on it so the phone will actaully function properly. as you can tell i support them at work.

pr5owner said:
the S710 was replaced by the S730 a long time ago, the S730 blows away the 720, and yes the ppl like CDMA because of coverage not becuase of what phones the provider has.
but im in a major city where coverage with GSM is actaully better than CDMA, and the CDMA phones we have here are all total crap. the rom that comes with the telus S720 is the worst windows OEM rom ive ever seen. its slow, its HIGHLY unreliable, it requires resets near daily also it doesnt even have MMS capability. telus for some stupid reason didnt include the arcsoft client.
this is why i say not very many people care about it, it CHEAPER and easier to get a PDA phone and just throw in a sim card.
also im waiting for a rom for the S720 as well but i know it will never come, i need a super lite rom with no telus crap on it so the phone will actaully function properly. as you can tell i support them at work.
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Finally Telus/HTC releases the Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM update for Telus S720 (Libra)
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=79&cat=2&dl_id=106
As per the site:
HTC S720 (TELUS) Update - Version 3.03.661.2
Adds EVDO Rev. A capability for faster download and upload speeds*
Upgrades to Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Improves overall device functionality and stability
Adds new shortcuts for easy access to TELUS mobile email, TELUS navigator, Pocket Express applications

belgarionr said:
Finally Telus/HTC releases the Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM update for Telus S720 (Libra)
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=79&cat=2&dl_id=106
As per the site:
HTC S720 (TELUS) Update - Version 3.03.661.2
Adds EVDO Rev. A capability for faster download and upload speeds*
Upgrades to Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Improves overall device functionality and stability
Adds new shortcuts for easy access to TELUS mobile email, TELUS navigator, Pocket Express applications
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Will this work on verizons version smt5800 ?

belgarionr said:
Finally Telus/HTC releases the Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM update for Telus S720 (Libra)
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=79&cat=2&dl_id=106
As per the site:
HTC S720 (TELUS) Update - Version 3.03.661.2
Adds EVDO Rev. A capability for faster download and upload speeds*
Upgrades to Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Improves overall device functionality and stability
Adds new shortcuts for easy access to TELUS mobile email, TELUS navigator, Pocket Express applications
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Will they Provide ROM update for HTC S720 Reliance in India?
Is there any way to install Telus ROM for my Reliance s720. I tried and got error INVALID VENDER ID.

We Need an Unlocker
We need an unlocker for the bootloader, so we can load custom ROMs, and kitchens,
I have a Verizon SMT5800, and I'm stuck on WM 6.0 until someone does.

skank_boy said:
We need an unlocker for the bootloader, so we can load custom ROMs, and kitchens,
I have a Verizon SMT5800, and I'm stuck on WM 6.0 until someone does.
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Any update?

For those still interested, there is an update to 6.1 for Verizon's SMT-5800 available at http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=81&cid=1&mid=292&carrier=Verizon Wireless

This is a little bit old, but I'm in a bit of a bind - I have a Telus S720 that I haven't used in ages, and I'd REALLY REALLY REALLY like to use WM6.1 on it. The thing that pains me is that the update exists, and Telus are happy to give it to me - but they link to HTC's site for the download, and HTC (being the most customer-friendly company ever) have removed all their old phones from their website, including support links.
Thanks, HTC!
If someone has a copy of the Telus S270 ROM update to WM6.1, I'd REALLY like to get my hands on it.

Telstra TP2 questions

Hey guys,
I recently got a Telstra TP2 on a new contract, but I can't stand what they've done to the ROM. For those who don't know, Telstra have added 4 extra tabs on TF3D (downloads, telstra applications, tv, news and sport) which can't be removed or turned off, and they've put 12 locked (unremovable) program shortcuts on the start menu.
As I'm in a rural area, I need the 850 band the Telstra version of the phone supplies, and I'm worried that flashing a new cooked rom will lose this functionality (I'm very new to this). As it is, the shipped version of the Telstra rom isn't found on this site through the wiki (version 1.19.841.3 (51489) wwe), so I'm scared that I'll lose it forever and won't be able to put it back on if something goes squirly.
Is there anyway I can get around this besides flashing a cooked rom, and possibly losing the shipped rom forever?
Also, have any other telstra users been able to use HDWall on the phone to replace the crappy blue telstra background throughout the device?
Many thanks,
Tim

Welcome to forums
Have a look on Rhodium ROM development and choose another ROM!
Good luck,

Thanks for the welcome
I've had a look around, making some heads and tails of it, but I really need to know if I'm going to lose my 850 band with Telstra if I flash another cooked rom without all this Telstra garbage on it.

No you wont
850 is a hardware stuff related and you cant change it with any ROM, so you can install
Just have a deep read on the how to section in rhodium rom development
Enjoy,

Hi there, me again.
I was at the Windows 7/Windows Phone pre-launch in Melbourne on Tuesday, and picked the brains of the Microsoft employees manning the Windows Phone booth showing off Winmo 6.5 on the TP2 and D2. One of the first things I was asked during the conversation was if I had already flashed 6.5 on my phone, which I was surprised about. I mentioned my reservations about losing the 850mhz band with Telstra NextG, and the employee told me that the support for the band is built into Telstra's crappy ROM, and would be lost if flashed with anything else.
Are they yanking my chain or what?

I would like to know this too.
I`ve changed my ROM twice, saved my original one.. and I`ve finally encountered a connectivity issue...
Perhaps it`s my using a Telstra, Unlocked HTC Touch Pro 2 with an Athine ROM (though it really doesn`t make any difference what ROM I use... Maybe) on my Rogers BlackBerry Internet plan.
But I`ve used the Sony Ericsson Xperia on it and a few weeks prior to this date, have had no problem surfing the internet.
It MAY be the fact that Rogers is having problems with their network in downtown Toronto, so I`m hoping it`s not my TP2...
In any case, I`m using HDWalls on my phone.. but I`m just (un)installing the individual walls as I go along.
There`s something wrong with my computer that I have to fix because I cannot install the items necessary to use HDsWalls on the phone, and on the computer.
But so far, it`s been the best.
Although, I just have to say.. if you don`t have anything like "background for all" sort of cab files on the phone, I believe;
1) The phone runs faster
2) The background quality is crisper/better
Took me 2 weeks for me to get my Telstra Touch Pro 2 from Australia to Canada, and it was worth it.
I BELIEVE just changing the ROM will do nothing to the radio.
Moving into radio talk, I was wondering if I updated my Telstra phone with the latest AT&T radio build, because the hardware is for 850mhz and so is the build...
Will it enhance my connectivity?
Does anyone have any expertise on this and help shed some light?

Sprint CDMA 3G ROM's

I've been reading through all these threads for a few days now and I have some questions about flashing my USA Sprint Touch Pro 2.
I don't see a ROM to flash back to OEM for the US, is this true?
I'm sure I'll run across this as i read, but if i flash my phone with a new ROM what do i need to do to get the phone working with my network again or does flashing not affect this? Do i program it just like i did before?
Will i still be able to get my Exchange e-mail?
I believe I read a few things about 3G not functioning with certain ROM's. If so are there any ROM's that support 3G?
I'm ready to bite the bullet, but I was wondering about the above.

I had similar concerns. I can tell you that there are ways to backup your ROM before re-flashing. That out of the way I have not looked back. Windows mobile 6.5 has improved the device reliablity and speed at least 40 percent. I have not had a single lockup since I flashed it. I am using the MightyROM and the only thing it does not do that the orginial Sprint flash does is the auto speakerphone and the screen off when you put a call to your ear. Beyond that it's packed with features and very stable. Including improved battery life.

I am on Sprint and have a custom rom. My 3G works without issues. You may have to install a Sprint specific provisioning cab to get it working properly. (Here is one for example)
Here is the Sprint Stock Rom it is an .exe file, so nice and simple to reinstall the stock rom.

I've been reading through all these threads for a few days now and I have some questions about flashing my USA Sprint Touch Pro 2.
I don't see a ROM to flash back to OEM for the US, is this true?
(Yes this is true)
I'm sure I'll run across this as i read, but if i flash my phone with a new ROM what do i need to do to get the phone working with my network again or does flashing not affect this? Do i program it just like i did before?
(There are serveral Stickies on how to do this.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=91619 )
Will i still be able to get my Exchange e-mail?
(yes)
I believe I read a few things about 3G not functioning with certain ROM's. If so are there any ROM's that support 3G?
(I am getting 3g speeds on mine.)
I'm ready to bite the bullet, but I was wondering about the above.

What's the difference between CMDA and GSM?

I am confused on why there is an entirely different section for the TP2 CDMA versions. It's especially confusing considering that it is a global phone that can run on both CDMA and GSM. So what's the difference?
Does a CDMA version of the phone have a different OS somehow, which is why there aren't any CDMA roms out yet? Would it screw up my phone to install a GSM ROM to my TP2 (Verizon)?
Any help would be appreciated.

cdma and gsm are 2 different cell phone technologies. kind of like vhs and betamax. 2 different ways to provide cell phone service. normally your phone uses one or the other. sprint and vzw use cdma while att and tmobile use gsm. this is all related to the built in hardware not the os. the att version only has gsm built in and can only use gsm's network. to compete with with gsm providers bragging about world wide coverage vzw and sprint have world phone version that have both cdma and gsm radio's built in. they are locked to use the cdma radio in the usa but can roam on gsm networks while traveling abroad. they have similar os's but are different enough that you can not use the gsm version on a cdma phone unless it has been modified for it. the cooked roms you see in the cdma section i believe are gsm roms that have been modified and tweaked to work on the cdma phones. since the gsm version has been out longer the 6.5 os has already been release officially. sprint and vzw will eventually get a 6.5 os from htc which they will tweak and cripple to their liking and then they will each release their own version. also remember these roms contain both new os versions and radio software. the main danger of loading the wrong version is probably with the radio. the gsm version will not have the information to run with sprint or vzw's cdma radio hardware. if you want to load a new rom you need to use the tweaked ones here in the cdma section or until vzw releases a new rom.

It's coming together..
Alright, so I am beginning to understand about the differences, thank-you so much for your information. But I am wondering if there is someplace that I could go and read up and the specific differences and how to start helping tweak roms, write them, or such. I am interested in actually coding, or however the people here make their programs for cell phones. Any websites that you could refer me to or anyone here who is looking to take on a student?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+between+CDMA+and+GSM

Nice.
Alright, I get the picture. From now on I shall not ask questions to which I can find answers on Google.
That link was very cool by the way, I have no idea how you made it so I could then interact with that search query.

They're just two different types of technologies.
The main difference is what frequencies they operate on.

On the TP2 the difference is deeper then just the radio technology that you can Google.
Externally it means you have a headphone jack on the CDMA version.
Internally there is an FM radio on the GSM versions. And the CDMA version as noted has a GSM radio secondary to it. And some GSM versions have a front facing camera.

That helps a bit, but not all the way
Alright, so I can understand the differences in technology that comes with the two diffferent carriers. But why are the ROMs so different between CDMA and GSM? If there are only a couple of technology differences, shouldn't it be easy to change that and make them work? Or does have it to do more with the radio frequencies and coming out with a working ROM that makes them still be able to connect? If so, I thought the different Radio installers came in different packages and were installed after the ROM.
Thanks for all the info.

Esazi said:
I am confused on why there is an entirely different section for the TP2 CDMA versions. It's especially confusing considering that it is a global phone that can run on both CDMA and GSM. So what's the difference?
Does a CDMA version of the phone have a different OS somehow, which is why there aren't any CDMA roms out yet? Would it screw up my phone to install a GSM ROM to my TP2 (Verizon)?
Any help would be appreciated.
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WTF? There are plenty of CDMA Roms, check out forum.PPCGeeks.com it's the main CDMA Windows Mobile forum. smh

I guess I was looking in the wrong place...
Alright, I will go check out over there. I was looking around here for a CDMA ROM, and I just didn't see any. Thanks for the point out.

my fault re-readin what I wrote I see that I'm coming off rude I really wasn't trying to be. Here's some Rom tips once you unlock for Sense 2.1 (with weather clock and fullscreen weather animations) go with MightyRom, it's by far the fastest most stable with great battery life that I've tried. For Sense 2.5 you can try JuicyRom or EnergyRom I found Juicy's to be very fast but 2.5 just doesn't compare to the stability and speed of 2.1. Good luck.

No worries
No problem, I thought it was just becuase I was a new user asking obvious questions. Thanks for the help.

Custom ROM with VO WiFi...

I have tried to search through the forums looking for custom ROM's that support Voice Over WiFi (not VoIP like Hangouts etc) to no avail . I am sure there would have to be separate builds (one for AT&T, one for T-Mobile etc etc) so it might be a bit much to ask but wanted to make sure before I gave up on it !
Thanks in advance...

VoWiFi isn't really a feature that custom ROMs come with or without.
Basically if the phone's original firmware comes with it, then the custom ROM will have it.
But - it has dependencies. For example, on Samsung devices, it depends on you having the correct CSC, which is a region related file. This contains things that enable VoWiFi, VoLTE etc.
What phone do you have?

the_scotsman said:
VoWiFi isn't really a feature that custom ROMs come with or without.
Basically if the phone's original firmware comes with it, then the custom ROM will have it.
But - it has dependencies. For example, on Samsung devices, it depends on you having the correct CSC, which is a region related file. This contains things that enable VoWiFi, VoLTE etc.
What phone do you have?
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What I have is a pos iCrap 6 , it's a temp phone because I accidentally stepped on my Nexus 6 to end it's days . I am looking for my next droid and am impressed with the spec's of the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and the Ulefone T1. In either case I would look at a custom ROM if available. Unfortunately I am limited to AT&T or Verizon here, Sprint is meh for coverage (absolute 0 bars anywhere in or around the house and for 1/2 mile) and T-Mobile is worse, so that leaves me with the 2 hardest to get VoWiFi working unless you use their phones... More then likely going to have to go the route of in home signal amplifier to bring the signal to the basement.
Thanks for the reply, have not done a custom ROM for sometime so wasn't sure where the VoWiFi came from.