I am confused on why there is an entirely different section for the TP2 CDMA versions. It's especially confusing considering that it is a global phone that can run on both CDMA and GSM. So what's the difference?
Does a CDMA version of the phone have a different OS somehow, which is why there aren't any CDMA roms out yet? Would it screw up my phone to install a GSM ROM to my TP2 (Verizon)?
Any help would be appreciated.
cdma and gsm are 2 different cell phone technologies. kind of like vhs and betamax. 2 different ways to provide cell phone service. normally your phone uses one or the other. sprint and vzw use cdma while att and tmobile use gsm. this is all related to the built in hardware not the os. the att version only has gsm built in and can only use gsm's network. to compete with with gsm providers bragging about world wide coverage vzw and sprint have world phone version that have both cdma and gsm radio's built in. they are locked to use the cdma radio in the usa but can roam on gsm networks while traveling abroad. they have similar os's but are different enough that you can not use the gsm version on a cdma phone unless it has been modified for it. the cooked roms you see in the cdma section i believe are gsm roms that have been modified and tweaked to work on the cdma phones. since the gsm version has been out longer the 6.5 os has already been release officially. sprint and vzw will eventually get a 6.5 os from htc which they will tweak and cripple to their liking and then they will each release their own version. also remember these roms contain both new os versions and radio software. the main danger of loading the wrong version is probably with the radio. the gsm version will not have the information to run with sprint or vzw's cdma radio hardware. if you want to load a new rom you need to use the tweaked ones here in the cdma section or until vzw releases a new rom.
It's coming together..
Alright, so I am beginning to understand about the differences, thank-you so much for your information. But I am wondering if there is someplace that I could go and read up and the specific differences and how to start helping tweak roms, write them, or such. I am interested in actually coding, or however the people here make their programs for cell phones. Any websites that you could refer me to or anyone here who is looking to take on a student?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+between+CDMA+and+GSM
Nice.
Alright, I get the picture. From now on I shall not ask questions to which I can find answers on Google.
That link was very cool by the way, I have no idea how you made it so I could then interact with that search query.
They're just two different types of technologies.
The main difference is what frequencies they operate on.
On the TP2 the difference is deeper then just the radio technology that you can Google.
Externally it means you have a headphone jack on the CDMA version.
Internally there is an FM radio on the GSM versions. And the CDMA version as noted has a GSM radio secondary to it. And some GSM versions have a front facing camera.
That helps a bit, but not all the way
Alright, so I can understand the differences in technology that comes with the two diffferent carriers. But why are the ROMs so different between CDMA and GSM? If there are only a couple of technology differences, shouldn't it be easy to change that and make them work? Or does have it to do more with the radio frequencies and coming out with a working ROM that makes them still be able to connect? If so, I thought the different Radio installers came in different packages and were installed after the ROM.
Thanks for all the info.
Esazi said:
I am confused on why there is an entirely different section for the TP2 CDMA versions. It's especially confusing considering that it is a global phone that can run on both CDMA and GSM. So what's the difference?
Does a CDMA version of the phone have a different OS somehow, which is why there aren't any CDMA roms out yet? Would it screw up my phone to install a GSM ROM to my TP2 (Verizon)?
Any help would be appreciated.
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WTF? There are plenty of CDMA Roms, check out forum.PPCGeeks.com it's the main CDMA Windows Mobile forum. smh
I guess I was looking in the wrong place...
Alright, I will go check out over there. I was looking around here for a CDMA ROM, and I just didn't see any. Thanks for the point out.
my fault re-readin what I wrote I see that I'm coming off rude I really wasn't trying to be. Here's some Rom tips once you unlock for Sense 2.1 (with weather clock and fullscreen weather animations) go with MightyRom, it's by far the fastest most stable with great battery life that I've tried. For Sense 2.5 you can try JuicyRom or EnergyRom I found Juicy's to be very fast but 2.5 just doesn't compare to the stability and speed of 2.1. Good luck.
No worries
No problem, I thought it was just becuase I was a new user asking obvious questions. Thanks for the help.
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This rom is totally different from the UK version which I have on my D2. Notice the option to use 3G 1900/850. Does this mean the D2 has a way to access those bands in the US already in the hardware??
Wow, good eye. I switched it (WWE edition rom) to the 1900+850 one but no 3G icon for me. I know it is finnicky in my area so possibly it might work. If it does then I might not sell it after all.
please 3g.......
I know! That is exactly what I am thinking. If there is a way to turn on those bands I will hold on to this one for a bit longer. There is a chance they are different like with the X1a and X1i, but I really hope not. Once we get HardSpl I want to get my hands on that Rom.
I saw those bands. I went to AT&T store and tried a card from an employee there. NO 3G. The bands being in there do make me wonder if 3G will work but all say it is Hardware related and not Software. That is true but the Radio could have those bands but they are just disabled. Was this not the case for the diamond or something and HTC had on the website a ROM to make it QuadBand rather than triband. How it originally shipped?
The other discussion is here.
Can the phone really be that different from the Dev Phone for T-Mobile G1?
Seems like it would be desirable model for US 3G (AT&T). No interest in this model?
-James
Because no one likes Canadians.
vr24 said:
Because no one likes Canadians.
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lmaoo..yeah that might just be it..haha
there are a few people here who have the rogers phones and have flashed hero and other roms to their phone just cause it does not say rogers does not mean it won't work be careful cause you don't want a paperweight
I'm on U.S. AT&T 3G.
But thanks for the pointless racist comment that does nothing to address the question.
rogers roms
Last time I checked there were several Custom Rogers Roms.
Did you look at soulife's ?
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523608)
Is there a specific modifcation that can be done to the custom roms to get them to load on the Rogers Dream?
T-Mobile's lack of 3G coverage was not desirable to me so I imported one.
I know Cyanogen mentioned somthing about it but I can't find any information otherwise.
-James
enomther said:
Last time I checked there were several Custom Rogers Roms.
Did you look at soulife's ?
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523608)
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Aren't these rogers roms ported for use on the TMobile G1? AFAIK, those don't actually run on a real Rogers Dream, but if I'm wrong, I'de be happy.
-James
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removed ... since I was uninformed.
~cheers~
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So let me get this straight ... you imported a Rogers Dream so that you could use AT&T in the states ? umk (There are ways to unlock the TMO G1's for AT&T use)
Eitherway ... as far as I know, if you're rooted and have a nice recovery image installed, like Cyanogen's ... you should be able to (with no problem) load a custom Roger's ROM like soulife's (which I liked very much, when I used it).
Dream hardware is dream hardware ... doesn't really matter where you got it.
You may need the HardSPL though.
~cheers~
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This is wrong, and there is a whole thread in the Dream forum about it. The Rogers Dream is slightly different hardware and we can't build custom kernels for it yet. Its being worked on, though.
cyanogen said:
This is wrong, and there is a whole thread in the Dream forum about it. The Rogers Dream is slightly different hardware and we can't build custom kernels for it yet. Its being worked on, though.
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I stand fully corrected then!
enomther said:
So let me get this straight ... you imported a Rogers Dream so that you could use AT&T in the states ? umk (There are ways to unlock the TMO G1's for AT&T use)
Eitherway ... as far as I know, if you're rooted and have a nice recovery image installed, like Cyanogen's ... you should be able to (with no problem) load a custom Roger's ROM like soulife's (which I liked very much, when I used it).
Dream hardware is dream hardware ... doesn't really matter where you got it.
~cheers~
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Cyonegens roms don't run on the Rogers, he even has stated as much. He had a custom boot iamge at one point for the Rogers DReam but pulled it because it didn't actually work.
I would agree, in theory, G1 hardware is G1 hardware, but something is different about the device some how. It is a newer revision of the G1 and uses a different amplifier for the different 3G frequencies so who knows what other minor tweaks were done.
Yes I imported one. And I also own a developer phone which runs on AT&T. Now I think it's obvious to anyone that Edge speeds for data or less than desirable. This is simply an unfortunate state of T-Mobile undesirable 3G deployment which is hardly anywhere useful, and AT&T much larger deployment with larger spectrum assets in many markets. AT&T is no Verizon, but it's more solid than T-Mobile any day, where I live for sure. Maybe when T-Mobile goes 3G here later this year I will reconsider but for now I'm happy with AT&T, not to mention my grandfathered data plan is less than T-Mobiles and I'm constantly hitting 1 - 1.5 mbit on AT&T's 3G around here.
-James
Maybe google hates Canadians. I find it odd that there is no developer phone with North American 3G (AT&T/Rogers) frequencies.
-James
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Cyonegens roms don't run on the Rogers, he even has stated as much. He had a custom boot iamge at one point for the Rogers DReam but pulled it because it didn't actually work.
I would agree, in theory, G1 hardware is G1 hardware, but something is different about the device some how. It is a newer revision of the G1 and uses a different amplifier for the different 3G frequencies so who knows what other minor tweaks were done.
Yes I imported one. And I also own a developer phone which runs on AT&T. Now I think it's obvious to anyone that Edge speeds for data or less than desirable. This is simply an unfortunate state of T-Mobile undesirable 3G deployment which is hardly anywhere useful, and AT&T much larger deployment with larger spectrum assets in many markets. AT&T is no Verizon, but it's more solid than T-Mobile any day, where I live for sure. Maybe when T-Mobile goes 3G here later this year I will reconsider but for now I'm happy with AT&T, not to mention my grandfathered data plan is less than T-Mobiles and I'm constantly hitting 1 - 1.5 mbit on AT&T's 3G around here.
-James
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Yes I was corrected, sorry about the confusion.
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Yes I was corrected, sorry about the confusion.
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But the answer is likely in the cyanogen's correction on the matter ... if they can't build custom kernels ... that would explain the lack of ROMs.
enomther said:
But the answer is likely in the cyanogen's correction on the matter ... if they can't build custom kernels ... that would explain the lack of ROMs.
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A few people (PhaseBurn in particular) are trying hard to get the specs/code needed to do this. We are kind of at the mercy of HTC right now.
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I'm on U.S. AT&T 3G.
But thanks for the pointless racist comment that does nothing to address the question.
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Are Canadians really a different race?
Glad you got your question answered though
Can we use the ROMs that are already available or do we have to wait for CDMA ROMs to be released?
ROMs for the GSM model are only for the GSM model you could cause damage to your device if you use those.
You might want to head over to PPCgeeks to check out some ROMs as there are a few already out. I am sure there will be many more released this weekend once everyone sees that HSPL is released.
cdma roms
Here are some cdma roms that are out now. http://thewingster.com/tp2cdmaroms.aspx
dude go to ppcgeeks.com that is cdma land!!!!
I've been flashing roms for about a year and a half...ppcgeeks.com is where the cdma heads are...including me...well...normally lol...they are down right now.
Hiya peeps well i am new at this so am not a out blown expert i did a lot of research and i could not find some answer to some wanted question on radio and stuff like that now where i should start
ok i had my treo 750 to att 2.25 and wm 6.1 and i wanted it unbranded to 2.27 so i followed the instruction and i tried to do the radio up date using cheetah but i most have did something not right, for this part i got one question
using a sim card in the network setting for band should it work on auto or its normal that i need to specified what band am using? or i did something to my radio? (and not talking what tower it should connect to that automatic am talking between gsm and umts since am on telus that uses bell/telus shared tower that on UMTS 850 / UMTS 1900 network code of 302880 since i did that at lease it said the right provider and its no longer disconnecting me or saying no service)
if i update my radio should i use from this site?
www crc.id.au/files/xda/Radio_Roms
if yes what version that is safely work with unbranded 2.27 and wm 6.1
if no then where i can find the right radio rom i can grab for my treo 750 and instruction how to install it lol
am trying to understand how the phone should be setup while using a sim card without any disconnection by the phone also gime ability of roaming as well since i like my phone to be able too for future use
anyway thanks for reading and really do hope someone reply
also P.S: about the roaming icon any solution to that?
When you flash an OS ROM, it doesn't change the radio ROM. You have to flash it seperately.
I would suggest you only use the most recent radio ROM for your provider.
I have used 1.54.07 and 1.54.27 on my AT&T Treo 750 with success.
The Treo uses Hermes ROM's ... here is the repository.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
Do not install 1.54.30.10 ... it's not a great radio from many accounts and once flashed, you will be stuck with it. You can't flash a new radio over the top of it.
ok now the radio is updated and it work i used the 1.54.07.00 so now am happy for that part but i got 1 more treo 750 i could not updated the radio due to there spl is 0.25 then 1.40 like my main one i normally test on them other treo so if they turn into a brick i would not care lol
is there a way to update a bootloader or i miss something somewhere?
Sounds like you need to Hard SPL the second phone.
well that what am trying to do when i do try with the hard spl v7 it does not work it goes blank so am trying to see if i can find a bootloader that 1.40 so i can so the same thing on the second phone to test radios and other kinky stuff
also on the side spot i notice that my phone fails to auto detect its band and the only way i can make it work is to select the right band for my provider is it coz i didn;t completely unlock my radio or i did something that bad? or re-flash the phone?
Anyone tried the 1.48 Radio ROM. Some are claiming better battery life than the 1.54.
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well that what am trying to do when i do try with the hard spl v7 it does not work it goes blank so am trying to see if i can find a bootloader that 1.40 so i can so the same thing on the second phone to test radios and other kinky stuff
also on the side spot i notice that my phone fails to auto detect its band and the only way i can make it work is to select the right band for my provider is it coz i didn;t completely unlock my radio or i did something that bad? or re-flash the phone?
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I wasn't aware there was a v7 to Hard SPL, I just used the version in the first post of the HardSPL sticky here in the Treo 750 forum. It's worked on both Treo's I have tried it on. I would say re-download and re-format the SD card and try again?
As for having to select bands on your phone, my guess is whatever ROM you have flashed might not have the carrier information for your provider included, or your radio might not support the proper bands. Telus doesn't use the same 3G bands as AT&T, but Rogers does. Depending on which version of the phone you have, that could be the issue.
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Anyone tried the 1.48 Radio ROM. Some are claiming better battery life than the 1.54.
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I tried it on AT&T and both the 1.54.07 and 1.54.27 ROMS were far better in terms of reception for me. Can't remember on the battery life since it's been awhile, but have to believe at the time if it was an issue I would have made the change back.
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I tried it on AT&T and both the 1.54.07 and 1.54.27 ROMS were far better in terms of reception for me. Can't remember on the battery life since it's been awhile, but have to believe at the time if it was an issue I would have made the change back.
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Okay - mine has 1.54.27 on it so I'll leave well enough alone. I just got this off of eBay (non camera version so I can take it to certain places at work) so I'm not sure what to expect for performance. The orginal battery lasted about 1/2 day so I just got a new OEM original battery and still burning it in.
Thanks for the tip.
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Okay - mine has 1.54.27 on it so I'll leave well enough alone. I just got this off of eBay (non camera version so I can take it to certain places at work) so I'm not sure what to expect for performance. The orginal battery lasted about 1/2 day so I just got a new OEM original battery and still burning it in.
Thanks for the tip.
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I've always been able to get through the day without issue, but can't say I'm a heavy user.
The stock battery is 1200mAh, but Innocell makes a 1600 mAh battery that fits in the OEM space if you need more juice.
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi16tr680s.htm
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I wasn't aware there was a v7 to Hard SPL, I just used the version in the first post of the HardSPL sticky here in the Treo 750 forum. It's worked on both Treo's I have tried it on. I would say re-download and re-format the SD card and try again?
As for having to select bands on your phone, my guess is whatever ROM you have flashed might not have the carrier information for your provider included, or your radio might not support the proper bands. Telus doesn't use the same 3G bands as AT&T, but Rogers does. Depending on which version of the phone you have, that could be the issue.
I tried it on AT&T and both the 1.54.07 and 1.54.27 ROMS were far better in terms of reception for me. Can't remember on the battery life since it's been awhile, but have to believe at the time if it was an issue I would have made the change back.
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well can ya link me the right hardspl
for my band selection problem is it the OS rom or the Radio rom and if there is one for my carrier where i can find it?
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well can ya link me the right hardspl
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It's the first 'sticky' thread in this forum as I previously mentioned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334100
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for my band selection problem is it the OS rom or the Radio rom and if there is one for my carrier where i can find it?
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It's likely not the OS ROM causing it. Assuming you have other phones that lock onto a signal properly in the same locations, then it's probably the radio ROM. However, if the Treo in question was not originally sold for your carrier (which I assume is Telus) then it's possible that the phone is trying to find a frequency for 3G that is not supported by Telus. For example, AT&T shares the same 3G frequencies with Rogers, which are different from Telus'. If you have a Rogers or AT&T version of the Treo, you would probably be better off just locking the phone down to GSM only.
As for finding the proper radio, you would need to try to find any Telus radio ROM that you can. Have no idea what that would be, or where to find it. If you have the original WM5 or WM6 official Telus installer package it would likely be included there. Otherwise you are just going to have to scour the net in seach of it.
Hmm, in my tests it is the OS that handles the Band selection only, what bands the Treo supports is up to the Radio firmware. You can flash a radio that, say, doesn't support UMTS 850, and yet it's possible to write a code to have it selectable.
And a word of advice. If you flash any of those Hermes ROM's, there's no taking it out. No overwriting. So, say if your wireless carrier upgrades their network like mine did, there's no going back to any of the suitable Radios that you can find.
And, just to be helpful, I'll write down which Official Treo Radio can be found in where(the ones I have):
CNG 1.16 (Cingular WM5) with Radio 1.12c [no HSDPA enabled by default]
VFU/VFE 2.18 (Vodafone UK and EU WM6) 2.18 with radio 1.47.02.00 [fast HSPDA on UMTS 2100 band]
H3E 2.19 (H3E Australia WM6) with radio 1.52.30.00 [no GSM locking, AUS band]
ROW 2.23 (WWE Generic WM6) with radio 1.54.00.00 [equal performance on all bands]
ATT/CNG 2.25 (AT&T WM6) with radio 1.54.27.00[Optimized for 1900/850 UMTS bands]
TEL 2.26 (Telstra WM6) with radio 1.54.31.00 [Extra band locking to single UMTS band (850)]
ROG/ROW 2.27 (Rogers and WWE WM6) with radio 1.54.01.00 [Slight performance increase over ROW 2.23]
VFE 2.30 (Vodafone New Zealand WM6) with radio 1.54.02.00 [bug fixes and improvements over ROG/ROW 2.27]
All personally flashed and extensively tested by me on two wireless carriers testing all bands.
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Hmm, in my tests it is the OS that handles the Band selection only, what bands the Treo supports is up to the Radio firmware. You can flash a radio that, say, doesn't support UMTS 850, and yet it's possible to write a code to have it selectable.
And a word of advice. If you flash any of those Hermes ROM's, there's no taking it out. No overwriting. So, say if your wireless carrier upgrades their network like mine did, there's no going back to any of the suitable Radios that you can find.
And, just to be helpful, I'll write down which Official Treo Radio can be found in where(the ones I have):
CNG 1.16 (Cingular WM5) with Radio 1.12c [no HSDPA enabled by default]
VFU/VFE 2.18 (Vodafone UK and EU WM6) 2.18 with radio 1.47.02.00 [fast HSPDA on UMTS 2100 band]
H3E 2.19 (H3E Australia WM6) with radio 1.52.30.00 [no GSM locking, AUS band]
ROW 2.23 (WWE Generic WM6) with radio 1.54.00.00 [equal performance on all bands]
ATT/CNG 2.25 (AT&T WM6) with radio 1.54.27.00[Optimized for 1900/850 UMTS bands]
TEL 2.26 (Telstra WM6) with radio 1.54.31.00 [Extra band locking to single UMTS band (850)]
ROG/ROW 2.27 (Rogers and WWE WM6) with radio 1.54.01.00 [Slight performance increase over ROW 2.23]
VFE 2.30 (Vodafone New Zealand WM6) with radio 1.54.02.00 [bug fixes and improvements over ROG/ROW 2.27]
All personally flashed and extensively tested by me on two wireless carriers testing all bands.
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I guess we have different experiences then. I have had improvements in my phone locking onto a signal by changing radio ROMs without changing the OS ROM. I also have also used several of the Hermes radio ROM's and have been able to flash new radios without issue. The only exception I have ever seen is the 1.54.30.10 ROM which was widely reported to be impossible to flash over once installed (which for that reason I never tried).
I took from the OP that he was having trouble with his phone locking onto a signal and it was showing up as roaming a lot. I guess my thought was that perhaps he had a phone that wasn't originally sold for his network and it was trying to lock onto a band his carrier didn't support. Logically it seems like that might cause his problem, but I'm not well versed enough to know for sure.
As I mentioned, I am on AT&T and am using the 1.54.27 radio you report. It's the best of the radio ROMs I have tried. The Hermes 1.54.07 was the second best I tried. Thanks for the list, I'm sure it will help a lot of people. Of course you will now start getting requests to post them ...
Heh, when I said it's the OS that controls th selection, I mean just that, basically the drop-down menu in Band Selection. I too know that one can flash new radio's without changing OS's (you don't even have to Clear Data to use the new radio, just edit your choice of Data Connection setting, save, and your phone will automatically re-list your internet setup for use), and that's the thing. The OS will retain the Drop-down menu selection of bands, as it is tied to the OS (or both .pxp packages), an example is several tests I tried, for example the H3E ROM, does not have a selection for "GSM only" in the network type list. Say, if you flashed the ATT radio only then it will still retain the lack of GSM, because it is tied to the OS.
And yeah, I'm sure there would be at least one request. The problem is, I lost my source of instructions for ripping the Radio Firmware from the .nbh files and I do not want people having bricked Treo's all because I didn't follow instructions [I don't have]. Other course of action is to share th ROM itself, but that's large and I don't have an always on connection (this here Treo is my only source for internet, tether and built-in browser)
By the way, there are a lot of others who could not flash over other Hermes Radios, not that .10 one. I myself have 2 AT&T Treo's, and I flashed radio 1.50.00.00 and it remained no matter what I used to flash over it. I eventually gave away that half past dead Treo :/
well it used to be on auto with my telus card and it works on 3g network, the problem happend when i updated my treo 750 to 2.27 from 2.25 with wm6.1 am starting to think i mightn eed to reflash the rom it self
ok my wife as a fido sim card indeed i think its telus sim card the problem i have to use selective band it didn't needed that before i turn the phone from 2.25 ATT to 2.27 rwe the fido card work with the last radio version and i finally updated the bootloader
telus work with selective band >.>
now to know why fido card work auto but not telus
what does the radio do?
i got radio 1.54 .and i got two battery indicator when i installed HTC home (six tabs)
one bat is full and the other is like by bar. i want to remove the two battery because i got some newer/cooler battery indicator.
and i search some radios (idk why) so i try to installed other radios. and my phone stucks at the three colors.
and something pops up to my mind. i use cheetah unlocker. it got
FLASH SPL
RADIO.
idk the one.
so i flash spl and till i get to radio. it automatically updates to 1.1six some other icons on task bar changes.
but what does the radio do? and i dont know.
-sorry for the Six. because my Sixth button on keyboard is broken.
OKAY so I decided to update this thread:
There are two versions of the One X. One with aws bands and one without. I have a device without AWS (I am about 80 % sure). There are reports of people getting 4g on AWS with the Rogers Version as of now, and more testers need to check it out as it could still be possible on ATT.
This flash here theoretically could enable the One X radio to lach onto AWS (The radios here are for the One S Ville.)
http://ville.giev.de/?page_id=42
I have flashed all three, and although I did not get 4g, I got faster ping and a near immediate connection onto T-mobile. To all the people saying this will "brick" the phone, it does not and you have nothing to worry. But as always make sure to do a backup. The radio hacks for the Skyrocket/Note were also based on flashing the Galaxy S2 radio directly on top. This should work the same.
I'm interested in this as well. What does is involved and the risk? I don't have warranty on my phone, so I'm a little bit leery in being first.
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I'm interested in this as well. What does is involved and the risk? I don't have warranty on my phone, so I'm a little bit leery in being first.
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if your rooted ull should be fine just make a back up of ur current set up. this is just a clockwork flash, it may not even flash, but if it does then there's a high chance of 4g.
i've done radio hacks before for the droid 3/skyrocket/note all from a similar concept. ex. flashing the t-mobile galaxy s2 radio on the note, to enable 4g.
if anyone could provide me with a better solution for an unlock i am sure i can get this to work. seems that the htc unlocker server is down right now
it's the same thing as flashing different radios via clockwork posted in the One X android dev forum
I'll give it a try, hopefully it won't mess anything up. So I just flash the radio in recovery. If no good, I just flash the correct radio again?
There is a one click no HTC Dev bootloader unlock in the Dev forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734558
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I flashed:
Radio from RUU_Ville_U_HTC_Europe_1.78.401.2 [Recommended] (update by rhcp)
0.16.31501S.17_2_10.23.31501S.10L
From your link. It flashed correctly. The phone on data and voice still works. I confirmed the version in Settings is not my original:
0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L
I'm still on Edge, but I'm in a crappy cell area, so still not certain if radio or my area. I might give the:
Radio from Stock T-Mobile US (update by rhcp)
0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L
Radio a try too.
good to hear no negative results got my phone unlocked so i will be testing tonight. also do u guys have the newer sims or older ones?
I have an older sim I believe. It is one that came from an activation kit I bought off ebay. I tried the T-Mobile radio and same results, still on Edge, but still could be my location.
What in gods name are you guys doing! ? Are you trying to brick your phones? It's already been confirmed that the hardware on this phone does not support the proper bands for T-Mobile 3g!
seh6183 said:
What in gods name are you guys doing! ? Are you trying to brick your phones? It's already been confirmed that the hardware on this phone does not support the proper bands for T-Mobile 3g!
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Prove it. Why would the phone soc be any different than the one s one.
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ECEXCURSION said:
Prove it. Why would the phone soc be any different than the one s one.
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It's not just the SOC that determines hardware compatibility. There are various radio amplifiers and filters which are tuned to the specific frequencies that the phone is likely to encounter. If a phone is going to be sold in multiple markets, sometimes the hardware filters are set up for all frequencies and some are disabled via software, but often times this is not the case.
It's not impossible that a radio reflash can make it work, though highly improbable.
sassafras
Interested in this. There might be better luck flashing the tmo radio since I don't think any European operators use AWS bands, correct me if I'm wrong.
Can anyone explain why flashing this radio from a different device won't brick our phones?
tspx23 said:
good to hear no negative results got my phone unlocked so i will be testing tonight. also do u guys have the newer sims or older ones?
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I have a tmobile one s, but i also have the one from att and i am so interested on using this phone over tmobile 4g let me know if i can of help. I am using my micro sim that came with the one s and i am getting edge (asume its the latest from tmobbile 4g mucro sim. I am on 1.85 rooted but i did not unlock. though i am sure we can flash through CWM. any ways i am sure there is a way out to get 3g or 4g on the one x on tmobile did not find the way yet.
flashed both of the t-mobile modems no luck for me either, although my ping is significantly higher and connects to t-mobile a LOT quicker.
does anyone know how to edit the LTE settings. it is odd but for most ATT LTE phones they have the 1700mhz frequency i think it would be a matter of just defaulting that....
the radios also show up in my baseband so i have successful flashes
EDIT: one more thing, before i was not able to use data at all considering i had the newer t-mobile sims but now data works but on edge speed.
danada said:
Interested in this. There might be better luck flashing the tmo radio since I don't think any European operators use AWS bands, correct me if I'm wrong.
Can anyone explain why flashing this radio from a different device won't brick our phones?
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it's just a file in your system. it could potentially brick your phone but you can always get into recovery and restore. which is why i stated you should create a back up of your device before trying it out.
however, i was fairly certain it wouldn't do that because the internals of the One S/One X are nearly identical, they both share the same processor and most likely similar (if not same, radios).
either way, the the radios work, getting me higher ping, and working data without having to switch out my sim for an older one, hope there is a way to activate the 1700 band !
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_at&t-4614.php
EDIT 2: apparently there are two models of the ATT One X/XL one with the 1700 band and one without
tspx23 said:
flashed both of the t-mobile modems no luck for me either, although my ping is significantly higher and connects to t-mobile a LOT quicker.
does anyone know how to edit the LTE settings. it is odd but for most ATT LTE phones they have the 1700mhz frequency i think it would be a matter of just defaulting that....
the radios also show up in my baseband so i have successful flashes
EDIT: one more thing, before i was not able to use data at all considering i had the newer t-mobile sims but now data works but on edge speed.
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Likely the software has been changed to support T-Mobile, but the hardware (filters, amplifiers, etc) are non-existent, so you'll never get actual 1700 MHz AWS support.
Of course, this is just a 50,000 foot view perspective without actually trying it myself.
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sassafras_ said:
Likely the software has been changed to support T-Mobile, but the hardware (filters, amplifiers, etc) are non-existent, so you'll never get actual 1700 MHz AWS support.
Of course, this is just a 50,000 foot view perspective without actually trying it myself.
sassafras
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you might be right about this one but there are certain One X/XL's that do have the 1700 band found out through some searching and trying to figure out the reason behind it.
If that's correct.... the people with the 1700 band would have 4g when they flash this radio! also use *#*#4636#*#* to change network type to lte/gsm
--- for other phones though like the Skyrocket/Note they were directly compatible with T-mobile radios.
Okay, I flashed the Tmo One S radio and did not receive a brick. What I did receive is a not-so-good connection that will switch between HSPA+ and 3G quite often.
I don't have a WIND sim to test with, but I tried running AT commands on my phone and they don't seem to be working. I tried doing a network scan with AT+COPS=? waited forever and had nothing displayed.
Strange...
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Rebooted and ran the commands again. Still don't see any AWS carriers.
uid=0 [email protected]:/ # +COPS: (1,"CAN Rogers Wireless Inc.","ROGERS","302720",7
),(2,"ROGERS","","302720",2),(1,"CAN Rogers Wireless Inc.","ROGERS","302720",0),
(1,"","","302220",2),(1,"","","302610",2),(1,"","","302610",7),(1,"","","302220"
,7),,(0,1,2,3,4),(0,1,2)
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Okay, I flashed the Tmo One S radio and did not receive a brick. What I did receive is a not-so-good connection that will switch between HSPA+ and 3G quite often.
I don't have a WIND sim to test with, but I tried running AT commands on my phone and they don't seem to be working. I tried doing a network scan with AT+COPS=? waited forever and had nothing displayed.
Strange...
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Rebooted and ran the commands again. Still don't see any AWS carriers.
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Don't you need a wind sim to connect im pretty sure the Canadian version will work on aws
Confirmed on my end that even with the T-Mobile radio, I'm not getting HSPA+. Even when I drove by the Moscone center where 1900Mhz was refarmed during Apple's WWDC (maybe it was just that day?). I was hoping this would be like the Note and Rocket where I can flash different radios.
Any other new phone capable of this? The S III? If not, I may have to either wait for 1900MHz refarm or switch to Straight Talk.
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Confirmed on my end that even with the T-Mobile radio, I'm not getting HSPA+. Even when I drove by the Moscone center where 1900Mhz was refarmed during Apple's WWDC (maybe it was just that day?). I was hoping this would be like the Note and Rocket where I can flash different radios.
Any other new phone capable of this? The S III? If not, I may have to either wait for 1900MHz refarm or switch to Straight Talk.
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Picking up an att s3 today to test it out. Most likely there's two versions of one x one with aws and one without. I know mine doesn't though.
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Don't you need a wind sim to connect im pretty sure the Canadian version will work on aws
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I'm not exactly sure of this one.
If someone is willing to let me cut up their WIND sim (or lend me their WIND microsim), I'll re-flash the tmo radio and meet you somewhere to test it (Toronto, please).
~dan
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Just popped in an old WIND sim that I used to test AWS connectivity at first. Saw WIND Away with the standard radio, and after flashing the Tmo radio I see WIND Away and AT&T (AT+COPS=? shows Rogers, ATT, Telus, Bell).
I live by the lake, that would explain why ATT shows up.
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Check this out http://imgur.com/Nb984,rUvM6. Not using the One S radio...