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Tilt Was bricked..any ideas as to unbricking?

hey Guyz. I have a Tilt that a customer gave me that got bricked while trying to flash one of dutty's roms...Problem is that the genius didn't load up Hard SPL even tho he told me that he did...now He wants me to fix it...even tho he didn't follow my instructions and read the WiKi...I kno that on the Hermes it was able to be unbricked. Is the same for the Kaiser possible? I would greatly appreciate your help as my customers are loving the work you guyz do here in nyc..
Thanks in Advance!
Cristian

What is the current status of the phone?
Can you get into the bootloader at all?
If you can get to the bootloader you should be able to load the AT&T AKU v0.4.4 ROM (the unoffical upgraded AT&T ROM). Once you get that loaded you should flash HardSPL immediately.
Let me know how it goes...
Cheers.

I bricked my tilt when it was less than 24 hours old... I recovered it with a BETA of the ATT rom and THEN redoing the hardspl thingy - worked a treat.
Do a search for tolt bricked and you should find afew threads for it.
The rom is called something like RUU_Kaiser_ATT_WWE....._Internal.exe

It goes to the Tri-Color Screen but stays there..I'll go ahead and research it so I can find the original AT&T and load it up...It shows a lot..workin for at&t and being a member on xda...U guyz have no idea how ya make life easier for my tilt customers b/c at&t truly dropped the ball on the rom...and by offering alternatives..u make the user experience so much better...thanks!

HTCFAN0923 said:
It goes to the Tri-Color Screen but stays there..I'll go ahead and research it so I can find the original AT&T and load it up...It shows a lot..workin for at&t and being a member on xda...U guyz have no idea how ya make life easier for my tilt customers b/c at&t truly dropped the ball on the rom...and by offering alternatives..u make the user experience so much better...thanks!
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If you are at the bootloader screen (Tri-Color) then the phone is not bricked. In the sticky at the top on how to revert back for warranty replacement, it has links for the various roms. Just flash an official AT&T rom on it and you should be good to go. Then do the HardSPL.
Cool that you work for AT&T and hang out here! If you have any other warranty returns, I can give you my address as I wouldn't mind having a backup or two...
BTW: The AT&T ROM for the Tilt is actually quite good in the big picture of things. At least the phone is usable (slower than it should be and less memory than it should have, but its still very usable and stable on the official rom). If you want to ***** about official roms, go back to the 8125 and its official rom. The while the device (at the time) was great, that rom made the phone almost worthless (super slow, battery problems, bad radio, dropped calls, freezing, etc). I can't tell you how many people that run custom roms on the Wizard just can't believe what that phone is actually capable of.
Ok, sorry, got off topic there...

does Hard-SPL needs to be flashed just once on a device or does it need to be installed every tome a new ROM is going to be Flashed onto it?

mfrazzz said:
If you are at the bootloader screen (Tri-Color) then the phone is not bricked. In the sticky at the top on how to revert back for warranty replacement, it has links for the various roms. Just flash an official AT&T rom on it and you should be good to go. Then do the HardSPL.
Cool that you work for AT&T and hang out here! If you have any other warranty returns, I can give you my address as I wouldn't mind having a backup or two...
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For some reason, it's not being recognized by my Activesync. I got it to recognize it but now it sayz Error 294: Invalid Vendor ID...I'm using the RUU_Cingular_WWE Rom for the Kaiser...so I'm flabbergasted at this point...

Quick Silver said:
does Hard-SPL needs to be flashed just once on a device or does it need to be installed every tome a new ROM is going to be Flashed onto it?
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Only once! Than you can flash as much as you like!

HTCFAN0923 said:
For some reason, it's not being recognized by my Activesync. I got it to recognize it but now it sayz Error 294: Invalid Vendor ID...I'm using the RUU_Cingular_WWE Rom for the Kaiser...so I'm flabbergasted at this point...
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ActiveSync will not recognize your device when in BootLoader mode!
The Vendor ID error means the ROM cannot be loaded on the Tilt without HardSPL. You need an original Tilt ROM. (That's what I think about this)

HTCFAN0923 said:
It goes to the Tri-Color Screen but stays there..I'll go ahead and research it so I can find the original AT&T and load it up...It shows a lot..workin for at&t and being a member on xda...U guyz have no idea how ya make life easier for my tilt customers b/c at&t truly dropped the ball on the rom...and by offering alternatives..u make the user experience so much better...thanks!
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Oddly enough the "Original" Tilt ROM will not install on a Tilt that does not already have HardSPL on it (to spell it out for you, the CID of the ROM does not match the Tilt's stock SPL). If you check the "reverting back" sticky you'll find all this info already, though it is deep in the thread.
The AKU v.0.4.4 ATT Beta ROM does have the correct CID and will flash on a stock Tilt. SO that is what you are forced to resort to at this point. Once you get the beta ROM installed you can (and probably should) install HardSPL.
After all that, if you decide you want to return or warranty the phone follow the "revert" thread to restore it to "stock" form.
Some additional notes on your problem...
ActiveSync will not connect in Bootloader mode (this is expected). You should see a device show up in Device Manager however, I can't recall the exact description however.
quick flash procedure:
put phone in bootloader
connect usb cable
install ROM
FYI, the problem may not be a bricked tilt... you could try Pof's fix which involves using MTTY.exe to boot the phone, depending on how your "customer" tried to flash it it may just need a kick in the pants to restore it. (search Pof's SSPL for the Kaiser thread for instructions, the thread was closed so you will have to look deep).
<climbing on my soapbox>
Lastly... your use of the word "customer" concerns me... are you charging people for the work you do to their phones? If so, do you donate to the people who make it possible? I'm probably just misunderstanding you, but if you're profiting from others work, perhaps you should contribute (especially if you're coming here to ask for help).
</climbing down>
Good Luck!
Cheers.

Customers as in I work for an AT&T corporate owned Retail location and they have bought Tilts from me. They kno my Tilt has been modded and they usually want to do the same. I don't charge them for doing mods to their Tilts. This still remains a community where we help each other and I cherish that. Greed has no place here.

as far as ur suggestions...It looks like I'm gonna be drunk @ 4am on XDA tonite...lol...

HTCFAN0923 said:
Customers as in I work for an AT&T corporate owned Retail location and they have bought Tilts from me. They kno my Tilt has been modded and they usually want to do the same. I don't charge them for doing mods to their Tilts. This still remains a community where we help each other and I cherish that. Greed has no place here.
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That's cool... my misunderstanding then. Hopefully no hard feelings .
All in all it sounds like the guy wants a custom ROM so you should probably get the ATT Beta ROM and install that. And then install HardSPL.
Check Kyphur's second post in the thread below for the ROM you want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343198

Thanks for the info sycho...I'll get to it after work..

Good news! The AKU 0.33 worked! Thanks for ur help sycho!

how can i re-install the window? at tilt 8925
i have wm6.1
i want to reset it so the error message shud gone like Recover ?

@kaal,
It seems what you want to do is a HARD RESET. Please visit Kaiser Wiki and read through. You'll know your phone better that way.
@HTCFan & Sirsycho, Glad you both sort it out in the community spirit Cheers!

sirsycho said:
Oddly enough the "Original" Tilt ROM will not install on a Tilt that does not already have HardSPL on it (to spell it out for you, the CID of the ROM does not match the Tilt's stock SPL). If you check the "reverting back" sticky you'll find all this info already, though it is deep in the thread.
The AKU v.0.4.4 ATT Beta ROM does have the correct CID and will flash on a stock Tilt. SO that is what you are forced to resort to at this point. Once you get the beta ROM installed you can (and probably should) install HardSPL.
After all that, if you decide you want to return or warranty the phone follow the "revert" thread to restore it to "stock" form.
Some additional notes on your problem...
ActiveSync will not connect in Bootloader mode (this is expected). You should see a device show up in Device Manager however, I can't recall the exact description however.
quick flash procedure:
put phone in bootloader
connect usb cable
install ROM
FYI, the problem may not be a bricked tilt... you could try Pof's fix which involves using MTTY.exe to boot the phone, depending on how your "customer" tried to flash it it may just need a kick in the pants to restore it. (search Pof's SSPL for the Kaiser thread for instructions, the thread was closed so you will have to look deep).
<climbing on my soapbox>
Lastly... your use of the word "customer" concerns me... are you charging people for the work you do to their phones? If so, do you donate to the people who make it possible? I'm probably just misunderstanding you, but if you're profiting from others work, perhaps you should contribute (especially if you're coming here to ask for help).
</climbing down>
Good Luck!
Cheers.
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Because of you folks and this thread, I have a working device as opposed to a paperweight...Thanks!!!

Debranding a ATT branded Touch pro(fuze)

I just got a ATT fuze, and I think that all of the att bloatware is slowing the thing down. Is there a tutorial anywhere on how to de-brand it? If not, anybody feel like helping me out with it? I have the unlock code to sim unlock it but thats it.

jwx said:
I just got a ATT fuze, and I think that all of the att bloatware is slowing the thing down. Is there a tutorial anywhere on how to de-brand it? If not, anybody feel like helping me out with it? I have the unlock code to sim unlock it but thats it.
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Hi, do u mean taking the logo off the front of the device or flashing a faster rom? for rom make sure u flash Hard spl(check the noob guide) and for the logo if its not actually in the glass on the front then u would open your phone cover up and scrape the logo off(not recomended). once u have hard spl u can change the logo that shows when u turn it on and the gay att animation.

That's pretty much what this entire forum is all about. You need to check out the ROM section of the Raphael sub-section and read the sticky's there. I would HIGHLY recommend installing the Energy ROM series. If you are going from the AT&T ROM to that you will be floored with the increase in speed and just overall sexyness.

KevinACrider said:
That's pretty much what this entire forum is all about. You need to check out the ROM section of the Raphael sub-section and read the sticky's there. I would HIGHLY recommend installing the Energy ROM series. If you are going from the AT&T ROM to that you will be floored with the increase in speed and just overall sexyness.
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Yea, I got that much after I posted. I'll check out the energy ROM, thanks for the recommendation.

reaverclan said:
Hi, do u mean taking the logo off the front of the device or flashing a faster rom? for rom make sure u flash Hard spl(check the noob guide) and for the logo if its not actually in the glass on the front then u would open your phone cover up and scrape the logo off(not recomended). once u have hard spl u can change the logo that shows when u turn it on and the gay att animation.
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Just the software/firmware. I could care less what the phone actually looks like as long as it works correctly.

Anybody have any recommendations on what ROM to flash? It's actually going to my girlfriend once I get this ATT branding off of it, so the easier to use the better. I was thinking about just loading the unbranded touch pro's ROM if I can find it, unless the cooked ROMs would be ok for someone who probably won't want to reflash ROMs often.

If you need stability, flash a WM6.1 ROM, the WM6.5 ROMs are still beta and a little buggy.

jwx said:
Anybody have any recommendations on what ROM to flash? It's actually going to my girlfriend once I get this ATT branding off of it, so the easier to use the better. I was thinking about just loading the unbranded touch pro's ROM if I can find it, unless the cooked ROMs would be ok for someone who probably won't want to reflash ROMs often.
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EneryROM - a totally different experience.. try it ...

I think I'm gonna try one of the engeryrom 6.1 ROMs. Thanks guys!
Out of curiosity, lets say that I brick the phone, anyway to bring it back?

jwx said:
I think I'm gonna try one of the engeryrom 6.1 ROMs. Thanks guys!
Out of curiosity, lets say that I brick the phone, anyway to bring it back?
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To brick your phone implies that is is dead and cannot be brought back.
There are very few instances where a device cannot be bought back.
If you read the Noob flashing guide, make sure you have Hard SPL installed and follow the directions to the letter, you won't brick your phone.
One thing to remember, as you start flashing ROMs, you will want to flash back to stock ROM in between flashing customs ROMs as the RUU wrappers do not completely overwrite the previous ROMs but flashing back to stock does.

Bruce Inman said:
To brick your phone implies that is is dead and cannot be brought back. There are very few instances where a device cannot be bought back.
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So bricking a phone would be one of those instances where it's not coming back, right? I just want to make sure that I understand it...
Bruce Inman said:
If you read the Noob flashing guide, make sure you have Hard SPL installed and follow the directions to the letter, you won't brick your phone.
One thing to remember, as you start flashing ROMs, you will want to flash back to stock ROM in between flashing customs ROMs as the RUU wrappers do not completely overwrite the previous ROMs but flashing back to stock does.
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I'm not really planning on reflashing a lot honestly, since it's not my personal phone. If that was the case, then I'd probably play a bit more with it.
It does look pretty straight forward but I always tend to worry a bit when I do something new. I don't really expect anything bad to happen though.

Just a warning, its very addicting....

It looks like it is. I wish my e63 had the same hacks that these have for them. I see a lot of room for improvment on it...

I wouldn't say all the 6.5 ROMs are buggy. Get the latest EnergyROM which is 6.5. The buggy ones are 6.5.1 which are changing the UI.

First.off all lets stop the discussion about which is the best ROM! LOOK FIRST into debloating a stock ROM. Arupenthal and myself have good threads about it. SECOND look into hardSPL and understand what it does. THIRD I agree that a good start would be a 6.1 based ROM again arupp and NRG (2.0) ROMs may be the best start. Careful flashing a stock HTC TouchPro ROM. It may work w/o hardSPL but the keyboard layout differs and requires at least one more cab (fuzekeyboard) and even ATT connection setup.. Be patient read a lot and understand what you are doing and what'ss going on!! It'll take some time but Rome wasn't built in a day either

OMG...did i brick my phone?

Ok...so my tp2 is verizon and I did the whole hardspl thing and somehow got the energyrom leo on my fone, and then wen i tried to update to the new sense 2.1 extreme rom, i dont know wat happened. It said to use this custom ruu thing which i clicked on, and wen it updated my fone, my fone does absolutely nothing now cept loading the start screen where it says Touch pro2
I new something was wrong becus at no point was the .nbh that i extracted used, but no ruu came with the file that i downloaded...sighhh so is my fone dead or wat? I tried hard resetting, and although i am able to get to the hard reset page, wen i actually do it, it still just freezes where touch pro2 screen comes out

dont trip
i've 'bricked' most of my phones i've played with at least once. If your getting anything your ok - go to boot loader mode, reflash the original rom on it, then the one you want. Make sure your battery has a good charge also ^^

starscalling said:
dont trip
i've 'bricked' most of my phones i've played with at least once. If your getting anything your ok - go to boot loader mode, reflash the original rom on it, then the one you want. Make sure your battery has a good charge also ^^
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ok so im uploading this rom rite now http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=91940..the verizon one, once i get that do i have to do the hardspl thing again? btw thanks so much for the bootloader thing, i didnt know how to do it, i kept doing the hard reset..lol
* i got the stock rom back, thanks alot...do i need to hardpl it again? could sum1 help me flash to the another rom as well, i just dont know wat to do wit the nbh

fjgotgame24 said:
ok so im uploading this rom rite now http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=91940..the verizon one, once i get that do i have to do the hardspl thing again? btw thanks so much for the bootloader thing, i didnt know how to do it, i kept doing the hard reset..lol
* i got the stock rom back, thanks alot...do i need to hardpl it again? could sum1 help me flash to the another rom as well, i just dont know wat to do wit the nbh
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it wouldnt hurt. Just pretend youve never done anything to the phone.
Write or type out a list of steps for each phase
print it out and cross them off one by one.

thanks
Thanks my TP2 now is working

orobas said:
Thanks my TP2 now is working
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sweet
just had the black screen of death - lol was like - THE THREAD OF DEATH CURSED ME :> [all good now of course]

Failed flashing with CustomRUU.exe
Every flash has failed (freezes at "Touch Pro2" boot screen) when I tried to use a ROM that uses CustomRUU.exe (Miri, Cell_Pro, Athine, AF, Shadowline, and others). Flashing ROMs that use ROMUpdateUtility.exe already extracted flash fine. I've even tried first flash the original Sprint stock ROM and then flashing a "CustomRUU" ROM but without success. I've also extracted the files from the CustomRUU.exe and then run it with the nbh file but that doesn't work either. HTC Touch Pro2 (Sprint)
Any suggestions?
-Scott

scottGx said:
Every flash has failed (freezes at "Touch Pro2" boot screen) when I tried to use a ROM that uses CustomRUU.exe (Miri, Cell_Pro, Athine, AF, Shadowline, and others). Flashing ROMs that use ROMUpdateUtility.exe already extracted flash fine. I've even tried first flash the original Sprint stock ROM and then flashing a "CustomRUU" ROM but without success. I've also extracted the files from the CustomRUU.exe and then run it with the nbh file but that doesn't work either. HTC Touch Pro2 (Sprint)
Any suggestions?
-Scott
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You're flashing CDMA ROMs, right? Not the GSM only ones found here, but CDMA ones from elsewhere, like here? Try flashing one of the CDMA ROMs found at the second link, and see if that works, because I think you may be flashing GSM ROMs onto your CDMA device, which would explain why it flashes, but doesn't boot properly. Hope that helps

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
You're flashing CDMA ROMs, right? Not the GSM only ones found here, but CDMA ones from elsewhere, like here? Try flashing one of the CDMA ROMs found at the second link, and see if that works, because I think you may be flashing GSM ROMs onto your CDMA device, which would explain why it flashes, but doesn't boot properly. Hope that helps
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Apparently, I was flashing a GSM ROM. There really should be better indication of what the ROM is designed for than simply being in a particular form. It wouldn't be any trouble to add a few characters (GSM/CDMA) to the file name to make it clear.
Thanks!

My Verizon tp2 is stuck on the TOUCH pro2 screen when it tries to boot.. It will not hard or soft reset. So it's not being recognized by my pc to do the hardspl thing. I was trying to flash the perfectblack rom but it said it was not for my device...so i tried Energy rom.. it flashed but will not boot.. please help...how do i fix this.

Well...I took it back to Verizon...they are sending me another one. Have to figure out what I did wrong because I truly wanted to try a cooked rom or two.
Back to the drawing board.

defiantone said:
Well...I took it back to Verizon...they are sending me another one. Have to figure out what I did wrong because I truly wanted to try a cooked rom or two.
Back to the drawing board.
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Wait, you are sending Verizon your phone with a non-booting cooked ROM and the HSPL on it?!?
If they figure that out, there's a good chance you'll be SOL.
dwizzy130

dwizzy130 said:
Wait, you are sending Verizon your phone with a non-booting cooked ROM and the HSPL on it?!?
If they figure that out, there's a good chance you'll be SOL.
dwizzy130
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Exactly. Even if you have insurance on the TP2, if you sent it back with anything that is not stock, your insurance is probably voided, they probably wont give you your phone back, and you might even have to pay full price for a new one. Good luck man. Definitely should have held out for some responses before you sent it out. If you haven't then that's good, but if you did, your probably out of luck.

defiantone said:
Well...I took it back to Verizon...they are sending me another one. Have to figure out what I did wrong because I truly wanted to try a cooked rom or two.
Back to the drawing board.
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Why didn't you try what the orginal poster did?
I loaded a GSM rom on my Sprint TP2, I wasn't paying attention to the orginal
Post and just thought oh.. I want this rom..
What I did,
Turn on the device while holding down the Power button and the Volume Down key. If you see Serial and 3-4 colored bars plug in your USB, and reflash with a CDMA Rom.
This fixed my Phone. Credits to the gurus at PPC Geeks. if i find the topic later I'll post it.

*edit: nevermind

*edit: problem resolved

Please Sticky - HELP - How To Restore Sprint or CDMA Hero For Warranty Returns

I noticed that no one has set up a guide in this section on how to un-root and restore to factory for Warranty return/exchange purposes.
Below is a guide for the 1.29 Original:
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/03/how-to-unroot-the-htc-hero/
Here is the Factory Restore for the 1.56 ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=608434
Untested Theory:
Restore original Nandroid that you made after you first rooted your phone, that should put you at
a rooted 1.56
Then RUU to 1.56 and you should be factory.
Do not RUU from 2.1 to 1.56 because you are more likely to have issues.
If you can't deal with the minor bugs that are in the current DamageControl v2.0r2 then you might want to RUU restore, however I would suggest to wait it out because an offical 2.1 update might have to be rooted differently than what we have now. I prefer the Dev route.
I'm lucky that I didn't flash a custom ROM that wasn't a Sprint build, so my PRI didn't get messed up but if you did then go here, from dfbonney:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654119
The posts below should also help understand how all this stuff has been gathered.

Most of us dont need a guide since we know that if we use RUU will restore the phone to un-rooted factory settings...

The Nandroid back up you make after your root will capture Root stuff, since it is done after the fact.. so it restoring the nandroid will not unroot (is that a word?)
Only way to unroot is with RUU, some people have an issue (50/50) after you flash the Flipz Radio update. Though it could be linked to running a 2.1 Rom and trying to RUU with 1.5.
I do belive they found a way to reflash each of the partition images individually and bring the phone back to life.

Let's do this!
Darkshneider said:
Most of us dont need a guide since we know that if we use RUU will restore the phone to un-rooted factory settings...
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Kcarpenter thanks for pointing out what I asked. The above mentioned by Darkshneider is obvious as a stand alone quote but in the case from 2.1 back to 1.5 there may or may not be issues, how to be certain?
I would like this thread to help people who are having problems revert back to something functional in the event of a failure or a freak development like the PRI mismatches that have been happening. I know people here are supposed to be "DEV" savvy but not everyone is at the same experience level.
Let's try have as little guesswork as possible involved and try to get things in order. I don't think that's too much to hope for.

I'm fairly certain my post can help those who've bricked their devices... it should be stickied or in the same post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654119

GURUGTS said:
Kcarpenter thanks for pointing out what I asked. The above mentioned by Darkshneider is obvious as a stand alone quote but in the case from 2.1 back to 1.5 there may or may not be issues, how to be certain?
I would like this thread to help people who are having problems revert back to something functional in the event of a failure or a freak development like the PRI mismatches that have been happening. I know people here are supposed to be "DEV" savvy but not everyone is at the same experience level.
Let's try have as little guesswork as possible involved and try to get things in order. I don't think that's too much to hope for.
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If you are asking what issues are there if you go from 2.1 back to 1.5? Well, the only one I ever had was with the market not letting you see Protected apps. This was a bigger pain than I thought it would be and the fix is a little tedious.
Some people have issues with restoring Nandroid's, but I believe that is usually because they are running low on SD Storage space for the Nandroid to expand as it is copied to the phone.
The PRI Stuff shouldn't be a HUGE issue, unless you want to use Sprint TV and Navigation and those Sprint Apps. Persinally I hate Sprint TV, picture is to fuzzy and the way they break the eppisodes into 5.5 minute clips gets on my nerves. Then they want you to pay for the good cartoons...bastards!
I think Google Navigation is just as good as Sprints...minus the Voice and the interface isn't as pretty...but Ill take it.

Will restoring with RUU also put the original dialer taskbar and anything else you changed back??

redlinethecar said:
Will restoring with RUU also put the original dialer taskbar and anything else you changed back??
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Si. Oui. Ja. And Yes.

I noticed there is a guide on fixing the 110 error and a guide on how to unroot using your sdcard but not a general one covering the basics of unrooting with the RUU.
This should definitely be written up all in a post and included in the guide wiki.

i agree so users like me won't annoy people with thousands of questions when I need to get it done lol

redlinethecar said:
i agree so users like me won't annoy people with thousands of questions when I need to get it done lol
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lol, noobs asking questions that are readily availble will never stop, at least the wikis give us a single location to direct them to...
Welcome to XDA redline!!
Please ask away, search first but if you can't find something we are here to help!

Questions on root/flashing ROMs on HTC sensation

Hi guys. I'm hoping my post hasn't broken any forum rules... but anyway, i am very new to android, and i'm still trying to read up on/learn about rooting a phone + flashing a ROM to it. I have a few questions that i'm hoping some experienced people could answer for me =]
1. Does my HTC sensation need to have a certain update before i can try archieve S-Off? (I'm on the Three network [UK] and my software number is 1.34.771.1)
2. How easy is it to brick a device? Im good with computers, and can follow instructions, but seeing as i have no past experience with android, i'm anxious to try flash new ROMs to my phone without insurance - as £500 for a new device would kill me... =P
3. When flashing a new custom ROM to my phone, what kind of 'wipe' do i need to perform? I've read a few articles, all of which say to perform different wipes.
4. I dont understand ' Radio Flashing' could someone kindly explain that to me please?
5. What exactly does CWM backup? =P
I hope i'm not wasting anyones time here, i have read through the articles for noobs, just need some clarification =]
Thanks for everyones time.
~Tbestie~

tbestie said:
Hi guys. I'm hoping my post hasn't broken any forum rules... but anyway, i am very new to android, and i'm still trying to read up on/learn about rooting a phone + flashing a ROM to it. I have a few questions that i'm hoping some experienced people could answer for me =]
1. Does my HTC sensation need to have a certain update before i can try archieve S-Off? (I'm on the Three network [UK] and my software number is 1.34.771.1)
2. How easy is it to brick a device? Im good with computers, and can follow instructions, but seeing as i have no past experience with android, i'm anxious to try flash new ROMs to my phone without insurance - as £500 for a new device would kill me... =P
3. When flashing a new custom ROM to my phone, what kind of 'wipe' do i need to perform? I've read a few articles, all of which say to perform different wipes.
4. I dont understand ' Radio Flashing' could someone kindly explain that to me please?
5. What exactly does CWM backup? =P
I hope i'm not wasting anyones time here, i have read through the articles for noobs, just need some clarification =]
Thanks for everyones time.
~Tbestie~
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1. As long as you are on Android 2.3.3 there shouldnt be a problem. 2.3.4 donesnt have a S=off just yet, i think
2. Bricking is actually very hard to do, if u follow instructions you should be good
3. all you need to wip is the system data, cache, and i reccomend wiping the battery status too
4. Radio flashing is chaning your radio number. this is actually a very easy process. Dont worry about this, all you do is put a zip on ur sd card, and the phone does the rest.
5. ClockWork Mod backs up quite literally everytrhing. Think "Macrium Reflect" for a PC. Or a "Ghost Backup" for a PC.
6. I just added this. don worry about wasting peoples time. We are here to help each other like a community. Let me know if u have any other questions.
I am following this thread, and when u reply i will answer you again. So feel free to ask any more questions.
If you feel like ur ready to root just go to the Development forum and see the 1st sticky thread. Or if u ask i will send u a few links on how to root.

Alankrut said:
1. As long as you are on Android 2.3.3 there shouldnt be a problem. 2.3.4 donesnt have a S=off just yet, i think
2. Bricking is actually very hard to do, if u follow instructions you should be good
3. all you need to wip is the system data, cache, and i reccomend wiping the battery status too
4. Radio flashing is chaning your radio number. this is actually a very easy process. Dont worry about this, all you do is put a zip on ur sd card, and the phone does the rest.
5. ClockWork Mod backs up quite literally everytrhing. Think "Macrium Reflect" for a PC. Or a "Ghost Backup" for a PC.
6. I just added this. don worry about wasting peoples time. We are here to help each other like a community. Let me know if u have any other questions.
I am following this thread, and when u reply i will answer you again. So feel free to ask any more questions.
If you feel like ur ready to root just go to the Development forum and see the 1st sticky thread. Or if u ask i will send u a few links on how to root.
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Thank you very much =] Think i'll give rooting a go within the next week... just want to make my sensation that much faster and improve the battery life!
If you don't mind me asking;
What exactly is a Radio number for?
I am on android 2.3.3 , just my software number seemed different to other peoples phones =P
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
Also, say android releases 2.3.5 , im assuming i would just flash an updated ROM over the top of an older 2.3.4 ROM when it is released?
I've read through the 1st sticky a few times already, just to familiarise myself with certain words/actions =]
Finally, what is hboot =]
Thanks again for your time!
~Tbestie~

tbestie said:
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
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Clockwork Mod is just a recovery program to allow you to install new ROMs to your device, but most importantly, to let you backup and restore your current device configuration (like a sort of time machine). Most developers recommend Clockwork Mod (CWM) because it is so good at what it does. If anything fails, and you need to use your phone in a pinch, just revert to a CWM backup, and all's well!
So, to answer your question, unfortunately, no. One of the only ways to do that is with Titanium Backup, a program from the Android Market.
CWM is for reverting to previous incarnations of your phone's software and firmware.
Sorry I only answered one question, but it was the only one I knew how to in an effective manner.

Sorry, I can answer another!
tbestie said:
What exactly is a Radio number for?
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A radio is the way that your device communicates with your mobile networking. (wifi, 3G/4G, etc) Different Radio versions (numbers) work better for different people. Most developers will release a matched radio with their ROMs, which is usually what works best for them. Depending on your area, different radios may work better for you. Ultimately concerning radios, Your Mileage WILL vary. it's one of the other big trial and error pieces to flashing custom ROMs.

tbestie said:
Thank you very much =] Think i'll give rooting a go within the next week... just want to make my sensation that much faster and improve the battery life!
If you don't mind me asking;
What exactly is a Radio number for?
I am on android 2.3.3 , just my software number seemed different to other peoples phones =P
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
Also, say android releases 2.3.5 , im assuming i would just flash an updated ROM over the top of an older 2.3.4 ROM when it is released?
I've read through the 1st sticky a few times already, just to familiarise myself with certain words/actions =]
Finally, what is hboot =]
Thanks again for your time!
~Tbestie~
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Radio Number/Version is the version of ur radio. This is signal related.
So when updates come out they typically update the
radio and make the signal strength better.
This is something to be careful with, when changing ROMs
make sure that the some you are about to change into
supports ur radio version.
When u use ClockWork Mod to backup it will backup your current settings. So if u backup it consists of your rom , apps, settings, etc. so if u restore that then everything would be like the old one. So Yes, u would have the set everything back on the homescreen. Its ok, u will get used to that.
When they release android 2.3.5 you might have to "wipe" your phone and do it again. Maybe, depending on your rom, you might be able to flash on top of 2.3.4
H-Boot is similar to the Bios of the computer. And you know how carefully you have to be to change that.
But the H-Boot version that the 1st sticky says allows changing of certain things, thus allowing you to have root.
Feel free to ask away, im here to help you

Andresehn said:
Sorry, I can answer another!
A radio is the way that your device communicates with your mobile networking. (wifi, 3G/4G, etc) Different Radio versions (numbers) work better for different people. Most developers will release a matched radio with their ROMs, which is usually what works best for them. Depending on your area, different radios may work better for you. Ultimately concerning radios, Your Mileage WILL vary. it's one of the other big trial and error pieces to flashing custom ROMs.
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lol. you posted both while i was writing up my response.
Its good though, because then the OP will get to read 2 times as much, which will make him even better at the terminology and the process

Lol. I'm just trying to be helpful so i can get to posting on the Dev. forums. There are plenty of easy questions there...

Appreciating the help guys =] Starting to understand a bit better!
So when i flash a new ROM, i must flash a new Radio? If i flash the recommended radio, how likely am i to get a good signal? And if im getting poor signal, i just have to keep trying new Radios? ( I Heard flashing radios is one of the ways you can brick your device)
Also with CWM - When the backup is made... do i have to keep it on the Sd card? Or can i move it to the computer so it takes up less space?
And if i understand correctly - CWM basically creates a backup just incase things go wrong you can always revert back?
... If i use titanium backup, what benefits does that bring over CWM? - Is it worth the money?
Thanks again
~Tbestie~

Also, how do i find my hboot version?

Ive started trying to get S-Off... just be reading ahead, it says that Custom ROMs come with root already? Does that mean i just need CWM with S-Off to flash a ROM? Or do i need to Root + Do the Super-Cid thing?

tbestie said:
Also, how do i find my hboot version?
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- Hold the power button, untill you get Shut Down, Airplane Mode or Restart.
- Click on Restart then Yes.
- Wait until all the lights on your device turn off.
- Hold the Vol. Down Button until a white screen shows.
There you'll find HBOOT-XXXXXX
This is your HBOOT version.
To get to your OS again:
- Make sure FASTBOOT is hightlighted.
- Press the <Power> button.
- Go to REBOOT by pressing Vol. Down.
- Press the <Power> button.
Hope it helps

tbestie said:
Ive started trying to get S-Off... just be reading ahead, it says that Custom ROMs come with root already? Does that mean i just need CWM with S-Off to flash a ROM? Or do i need to Root + Do the Super-Cid thing?
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You don't need Root to install a custom Root.
Just S-OFF, CWM and SuperCID I believe..
Just note down your old CID before writing the new SuperCID as you may need it later if you want to flash RUU and afraid of doing something wrong
Later on, if you want to flash RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) without the fear of flashing a wrong one, you can just write the old CID to your device again
Check this post to know more

Sorry for the silly amount of posts... i cant find how to delete them!
Just so you know - I've archieved S-Off now , and installed CWM successfully.
Am i ready to flash a ROM?
-Also i have save files in games... such as FF7 - FPse , which a really dont want to lose... is their anyway i can copy them/save them somewhere ?

claudenegm said:
You don't need Root to install a custom Root.
Just S-OFF, CWM and SuperCID I believe..
Just note down your old CID before writing the new SuperCID as you may need it later if you want to flash RUU and afraid of doing something wrong
Later on, if you want to flash RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) without the fear of flashing a wrong one, you can just write the old CID to your device again
Check this post to know more
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How do i find/note down my old cid?

tbestie said:
Sorry for the silly amount of posts... i cant find how to delete them!
Just so you know - I've archieved S-Off now , and installed CWM successfully.
Am i ready to flash a ROM?
-Also i have save files in games... such as FF7 - FPse , which a really dont want to lose... is their anyway i can copy them/save them somewhere ?
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To flash a ROM, you mean Stock ROM (RUU) or Custom ROM?
If Custom Rom, please read my post #13 then do the SuperCID thing as you will need it for custom ROM..
About your saved games, the only way I know you can backup your saved data with is using Titanium Backup, which can be found in the Market.
Obviously, if you still don't know what you're doing, research more and then do whatever you want.
I take no responsibilities about anything that may happen to your phone using any of the methods above.
Good luck

tbestie said:
How do i find/note down my old cid?
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I posted all the instructions in the other link I posted.
You'll find CID: XXXXX, keep this code with you, in-case you need it later for installing RUU and confused about which one to use.

claudenegm said:
To flash a ROM, you mean Stock ROM (RUU) or Custom ROM?
If Custom Rom, please read my post #13 then do the SuperCID thing as you will need it for custom ROM..
About your saved games, the only way I know you can backup your saved data with is using Titanium Backup, which can be found in the Market.
Obviously, if you still don't know what you're doing, research more and then do whatever you want.
I take no responsibilities about anything that may happen to your phone using any of the methods above.
Good luck
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Im going to try install Android Revolution 3.0.0 =]
Starting to understand what im doing. About to make a backup using CWM. =]
*UPDATE* - Performed backup with CWM - Everything seemed to go fine... however i noticed it said ''No sd-ext found, skipping backup of sd-ext''...
Does that mean my SD card isnt backed up?

tbestie said:
Im going to try install Android Revolution 3.0.0 =]
Starting to understand what im doing. About to make a backup using CWM. =]
*UPDATE* - Performed backup with CWM - Everything seemed to go fine... however i noticed it said ''No sd-ext found, skipping backup of sd-ext''...
Does that mean my SD card isn't backed up?
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That's exactly what happened to me when I backed up.
I think you should ignore it, as it is trying to backup an extension in the SD-Card, as you can re-partition your SD-Card using CWM as I understand.
I would be pleased if someone explained to me what exactly sd-ext is and what I'm missing
Good day to you all

claudenegm said:
I would be pleased if someone explained to me what exactly sd-ext is and what I'm missing
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Ignoring it is ok. sd-ext not being backed up is most likely an indicator that an EXT4 formatted portion of your SD card was not found. By default, your SD card is formatted as FAT32 because of its universal acceptance by all OSs. Some users report a performance boost/personal preference toward EXT4, YMMV.
tbestie said:
Does that mean my SD card isnt backed up?
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Most importantly, ClockworkMod does not back up your SD card. that is something you have to do manually on your computer, should you choose to do so. CWM is only responsible for backing up the internal storage of the phone that can be changed or wiped by ROMs (or mike1986's SuperWipe.) ROMs shouldn't change the contents of the SD card.