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Hello All,
today I used my phone for a regular phone call, went back to my desk, put it down, a couple of hours later, I hear the sms ringtone, pressed the 'wake up' button on the top, (the screen had gone blank as usual), and.... disaster, I see a long crack on the screen...
I suppose the phone is still under warranty (1.5years), but I do not know if it covers the LCD screen... It's quite insane, it was not in my pocket, it was not dropped, no liquids were spilled on it... Literally, used for a phonecall, put it down and then next time I use it has a crack is on it!!!
Did anyone have any similar experience in the past? Do you think it is covered by warranty? If not, does anyone have any idea what it costs to get it fixed? (I had bought it from devicewire, uk)....
Thanks,
MM
What's the options?!
You need the screen replaced as soon, as (with my experience) the crack will outgrow the whole screen and soon you won't be able to use it.
Take it to the dealer as soon and as small the crack is, and suggest it was a manufacturer stress in the factory assembly that has started a hidden crack that grew up.
If you have the UK model (same as me) (Orbit 2 Xda branded) they are very very hard to find parts as they are mostly made for the HTC branded phone (silver original one).
So if you find a replacement online pls let me know, i need the touchscreen, not lcd but same diff!
P.S your warranty should only be for 12mths, well atleast mine are, and everything is covered usually, so just ask your outlt... if not, find a part online and repair, i would be happy 2 help with guiding through repairs if needed.
good luck, keep us informed.
I had the same problem. The phone was in my jacket´s pocket and when I was putting the jacket on the back of a chair it slightly hit the wall, for which I didn´t even worry. When later I picked up the phone the lcd was cracked. I have had the phone falling to floor without any problem a long time ago, and ironically it broke with a little hit.
I am sending it to fix, but I know I cant avoid paying for the repair.
Hello All,
thanks for your replies. My HTC is now at the HTC Service... I was told that the warranty does not cover the screen, so we will see how much it costs. The person at the HTC support line told me that the screen would cost around £60 and if it was the case that the mainboard has a problem, it will be more. Additionally, running the diagnostics on the first place will cost £15. It kind of makes me wonder what on earth that warranty covers for. I was under the impression that the phone is still under warranty and their attitude in claiming that this is not covered under by warranty shows the same thing.
Their quality of the service is probably average. I only received an email with the ticket number from them when I phoned them for a second time telling them that tehy had not send me any emails yet. I know they received the phone on the 7th of July, since I received an automated email from them, however, I have not heard anything from them since then, and I will need to phone them again. I have also input the ticket number and my email in their web page, but have not received any updates...
I decided to fix the phone, unless they come up with a stupid cost; the phone is lees than 2 years old and has served me well: I have used messenger while in airports and watched many movies while travelling. On a side note, I kind of have mixed feelings about HTC now. On one hand, HTC is very innovative, on the other hand the fact they release new phones so quickly kind of upsets me. I also think that nokia for example puts a lot more research and QC into their phones. The final thing I am not very fond of on this phone is that it's finger-unfriendly (no, I am not buying an iPhone...).
Even so, I have decided to fix it (subject to the repair quote), and keep it a couple of years more...
I will keep you posted about the final price....
I just replaced my Screen myself tonight, I also fixed a few things inside the device which were getting loose, just as the keys. I put some foam in the case where the keys are and now they are nice and tight.
The device is built better now than it was when i purchased it, plus it has a brand new screen now too. Cost: $1.00 Shipping to AU + $8.87 (USD$)
Tools are mine, they costed me $7 and got some free with screen.
HTC Repair... hell nah!
Hello All,
I know this is an old thread, but believe it or not, I only managed to get my phone back yesterday...
The phone as predicted costed around £60 pounds to fix (including postage). UPS then tried to deliver it to the address I gave to them. Unfortunately, it happened I was not there, so they left me a card. Using the number on the card, I arranged the delivery address to be changed. This happened on the 22n of July.
Unfortunately, the phone went missing and then my long adventure started... UPS asked me to phone HTC, HTC's reply was (I quote): 'Why did you change the delivery address, you would not have a problem now'. Their attitude was mostly unhelpful and they insisted that now (I quote again): 'It's now between you and UPS, why should we contact UPS?'
My understanding is that UPS in these cases asks the SENDER to raise a trace request and that they charge the SENDER for this, which is why a lot of merchandisers are unwilling to put a 'trace request' . Finally, after lots of phonecalls, UPS raised a trace request by itself.
It would take lots of pages to describe here the conversations I had with both UPS and HTC, each one blaming each other, until around mid-September where UPS said that they sent a claim to the SENDER, and it is now upon the sender to act.... Needless to say HTC continued arguing they have not received anything...
Finally, someone found that claim and sent me a replacement phone. The replacement seems new, though I guess, it might as well have been a refurbished phone. I also got a stylus with it and a battery cover, but no battery of course, (I had removed all these prior to sending the phone back).
Now here comes the amazing bit:
This time they used CityLink to send the package and HTC had forgotten to put my name on the package; they only put the delivery address. Amazingly, the package ended up in the company I work for, but in a different building near the one that was supposed to be delivered. Someone from my company called me and asked me if I am expecting a package from HTC, and that I can pop down the street to collect it from them....
Anyway, I have my phone now, it's ok... But I would avoid any interaction with HTC UK in the future.... I think I will also avoid HTC altogether in the guture, but that's a different issue altogether
Thanks everyone who posted in this thread (knowing that this would cost a few bucks to fix does not make it any better, but anyway )
just for next time
in my clumsiness i closed a car door on my cell which broke the LCD
after a short search over the net i found the tools needed (small screwdrivers and some plastic screwdrivers) and the LCD.
found the LCD at Ebay and the screwdrivers at dealExtreame
in really cheap all together cost me something like 140 US dollars
the change was quite simple as there are many youtube videos on how to open our cell.
so after like ah hour all was done and good to go.
hope it will help someone
if anyone need the ebay dealer just ping me (not related someone from china )
Hopefully this is not a trend...
My daughter, who is away at school, received a notice on her phone a couple of weeks back that there was an updated available. She was a bit nervous about doing it so waited until she was home over the weekend a week and a half ago and asked me about it. I told her to go ahead and do it. She hit the button to install the update. It downloaded, displayed an error message and the phone turned off. It wouldn't turn back on. We searched a bit, tried all the known key combinations to reset it, but it was a brick.
So the next day I headed over to the AT&T store. They tried a few things and agreed that it was dead. They checked the phone over and stated there was no physical or water damage. They contacted the warranty center over the phone, arranged for the return and handed me the phone handset to agree to terms. Turns out the only way they would warranty the phone is if I sent them the phone and agreed, in advance, to pay $459 if they decided it was not a warranty issue. I asked for clarification, repeated what had happened, and they just kept saying that was the requirement. I mentioned that the store rep and manager had already checked the phone, that there was no physical or water damage, and tried to understand why I would still have to agree to these terms. I asked if they would just agree to send the phone back if there was any other problem. They just kept repeating the same thing, I had to agree to the $459 potential charge with no recourse. They kept stating that I "would probably not be charged." I would not agree and asked the agent and manager on duty if there were any other options. They mentioned an AT&T service center about a half an hour away.
The store wrote me a referral to the service center and told me they could replace the phone on the spot. So off I went. A half an hour car drive and a wait in line and I was informed by the service center staff that they do not stock the Captivate and it would have to be returned to a warranty center. I said, do it. They said, no, I have to return it and that meant -- you guessed it -- agreeing to the same terms. Needless to say I was a bit frustrated at this point. So a half an hour drive home to cool off... or not.
The following day I started searching and found stories of people getting warranty service through Samsung. Wondering what their warranty terms are, I phoned Samsung's number. After repeating the phone death story, they said it was a warranty issue and emailed me a shipping label to send it back. Happy that things were looking up, I boxed it up and sent it off.
Fast forward a week and I just received a notification from Samsung that the phone is being returned, unrepaired. Here is the verbage used:
"Original Problem:
Technical Inquiry
Power
No Power Up
Problem found:
CORROSION, LIQUID DAMAGE
ABUSE / CORROSION
Solution:
BER
BER (Beyond economical Repair) Comments:
An attempt was made to repair your phone which was liquid damaged. This repair was unsuccessful due to excessive corrosion, or the failure of related components. The factory warranty has been voided."
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I get on the phone with Samsung, inform them the phone has never been wet, that both I and the AT&T folks looked at it and the water indicators showed no exposure. They explained that their service personnel do "a very thorough inspection" and that is their determination. Done. Discussion ensued, but there was absolutely no willingness on their part to take another look at the phone, explain further, or otherwise help.
So I'm out $200 plus a two-year contract or ETF fee with AT&T on a three month old phone. My daughter is quite meticulous with this sort of thing and trustworthy and tells me the phone has not been wet. I believe her. The liquid indicators agree. The phone died during an update that I now see is notorious for bricking phones. Both AT&T and Samsung would rather push it off on a customer than stand behind their product. I've been a Cingular/AT&T customer for over ten years, but apparently that's irrelevant.
So that's my story. Consider yourself warned.
BTW, if anyone figures out how to "unbrick" a phone in this state (won't turn on at all after failed update) I'd love to hear about it as the phone is physically fine.
Should have dealt with wal-mart, I got my captivate from wal-mart and for whatever reason my usb port stated that it was connected all the time. I could not boot my phone without physically plugging in and waiting for the battery charge indicator to come on. If I tried to get into recovery mode it would automatically boot into download mode so this told me that there was an actual physical problem with my usb port somewhere somehow. Took it to wal-mart explained to them what was going on they replaced it on the spot no questions.
That's odd. Happened to me too and att store exchanged it right away. Did you purchase it from att or a retailer? If from att, call cs, they will replace it. If you didn't buy from att, you are stuck with samsung...
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You get 1-year warranty from AT&T, not Samsung. And the terms you mentioned are normal terms for warranty exchange. Typically, they mail you the replacement, a refurb, with mailing labels and instructions for you to mail back your old phone. Track the mail and make sure your phone arrived at AT&T facility and you're done. If the phone is lost in the mail or you failed to mail it back in time, you will be charged by that amount.
Nothing special. That's how warranty exchange works all the time. Many here has made exchanges couple times.
qwertyaas said:
That's odd. Happened to me too and att store exchanged it right away. Did you purchase it from att or a retailer? If from att, call cs, they will replace it. If you didn't buy from att, you are stuck with samsung...
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Yes. Purchased at AT&T retail store. Returned there with the problem. They would not replace it at the store. Their terms were that I had to agree to potential $459 charge with no recourse if they determined that it was not a warranty issue before they would issue an RMA. Spoke with CS on a telephone while in the store. The store employees had already checked the phone for damage and found none.
foxbat121 said:
You get 1-year warranty from AT&T, not Samsung. And the terms you mentioned are normal terms for warranty exchange. Typically, they mail you the replacement, a refurb, with mailing labels and instructions for you to mail back your old phone. Track the mail and make sure your phone arrived at AT&T facility and you're done. If the phone is lost in the mail or you failed to mail it back in time, you will be charged by that amount.
Nothing special. That's how warranty exchange works all the time. Many here has made exchanges couple times.
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I've never been asked to agree to the replacement price of a new item before they even looked at the inoperable one. A reasonable bench charge, sure, but that they will just charge me for a new one if they so decide with no further notice. I don't think so. And I was returning the phone first, there was to be no cross shipment. Those terms are why I turned to Samsung as the manufacturer and based on their warranty which you can find here: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/s...d_mdl_cd=SGH-I897ZKAATT&prd_mdl_name=SGH-I897
a golden rule to buying from ATT just so you will know. Always buy the 4.50 a month insurance they add it to your bill and you hardley even notice the difference...that way if there is an updat to the phone and you try it and it bricks you phone you can get it replaced for about 50.00 through there insurance dept.
stewart2568, Thanks for the suggestion. I don't think I'll be buying any more phones from AT&T, though.
stewart2568 said:
a golden rule to buying from ATT just so you will know. Always buy the 4.50 a month insurance they add it to your bill and you hardley even notice the difference...that way if there is an updat to the phone and you try it and it bricks you phone you can get it replaced for about 50.00 through there insurance dept.
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Actually the replacement fee with AT&T insurance on the Captivate is $ 125.00.
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I've never been asked to agree to the replacement price of a new item before they even looked at the inoperable one. A reasonable bench charge, sure, but that they will just charge me for a new one if they so decide with no further notice. I don't think so. And I was returning the phone first, there was to be no cross shipment. Those terms are why I turned to Samsung as the manufacturer and based on their warranty which you can find here: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/s...d_mdl_cd=SGH-I897ZKAATT&prd_mdl_name=SGH-I897
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It pains me to say it but AT&T warranty department is much better than Samsung warranty department. You're just simply mis-understood the terms. A lot of ppl here on the board get their replacement just I described above.There is no cross shipping. They ship to you first, then you mail your back. Of course you have to agree to certain payment in case you never mailed yours back. And they always insist on inspect the phone for water damage before finally grant you warranty. That's just normal practice of buziness. You certainly have the option to ask the phone back instead of pay the $500 charge if they deny your warranty.
So far I didn't see any evidence that AT&T denied your warranty. You're just in a panic mode. Dealing with inpetent Samsung support doesn't help much. FYI, the phone you bought is AT&T branded which means AT&T take care of all the support and services. You can talk to Samsung all you want, you will just get run around like already have.
This is like how Samsung wanted to charge me for their product failure. It was just a month after I got my Captivate and one of the volume rocker buttons got stuck. I called Samsung to have it fixed, and they said it was "physical" damage. The guy said he could transfer me so I could find out how much it would cost, but that he needed to take my credit card first... WHY would customer service take your credit card number BEFORE they told you the cost??
Anyways, it caused me to open the phone up myself just to fix the button, instead of Samsung having my credit card number before I knew what I'd be paying them.
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It pains me to say it but AT&T warranty department is much better than Samsung warranty department. You're just simply mis-understood the terms. A lot of ppl here on the board get their replacement just I described above.There is no cross shipping. They ship to you first, then you mail your back. Of course you have to agree to certain payment in case you never mailed yours back. And they always insist on inspect the phone for water damage before finally grant you warranty. That's just normal practice of buziness. You certainly have the option to ask the phone back instead of pay the $500 charge if they deny your warranty.
So far I didn't see any evidence that AT&T denied your warranty. You're just in a panic mode. Dealing with inpetent Samsung support doesn't help much. FYI, the phone you bought is AT&T branded which means AT&T take care of all the support and services. You can talk to Samsung all you want, you will just get run around like already have.
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I asked for clarification on the terms, explained them back as I understood them, and the phone representative confirmed that I had to agree to the charge if they determined it was not a warranty issue. I specifically asked about the option of them just returning the phone instead of charging me for a new one and two different individuals, one on the phone and one in the service center, told me that they could not modify the terms in that way. Interestingly, I asked the phone rep for a copy of the terms in writing, as I was dumbfounded by her reading of them, and she refused to provide me a copy saying she did not have the capability to do so. (huh?!)
I have to disagree about panic mode. I am irritated, but have basically written off my loss at this point. You are right that AT&T did not deny the warranty, as I wouldn't agree to the terms up front to even get to that point. The phone is clearly branded by both AT&T and Samsung. Samsung didn't give me much run around, just went through their process and gave me the response "The factory warranty has been voided." Nice. Once I get the phone back, I will be doing a tear down to see if I can find any evidence of water damage or corrosion. I know that the indicators showed none before the phone was shipped to Samsung and from my discussion with them apparently still didn't when they had it.
I really only posted here so that others could be made aware. If these sorts of problems are common, perhaps something can be done. I've asked both AT&T and Samsung reps for further recourse and have been offered none. So in my case, I'm at a dead end. I'm moving on, checking on my ETF and considering my options regarding a new phone or a new carrier.
Im really sorry to hear you were treated so unfairly. Im an AT&T rep for Radioshack, and I know a few tricks for anyone who has this problem or any other unjust hardware exchange problems.
First, like that other guy posted, shop at Sams Wal Mart or Radioshack for cheaper prices, no mail ins and painless exchange policies.
Second, if you still can't get an exchange, call customer service and chose option 4. (Cancel service) This ofcourse is a bluff. Tell them that they can help you or your family is going yo Verizon. This is how I got them to exchange my Tilt I bricked for 80$ instead of 450$.
Third, If you go to the right Radioshack, they will ship it, straight to Samsung free of charge. Most stores don't know how but all have the ability. Just tell them to ship under NARDA.
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jmore said:
Hopefully this is not a trend...
My daughter, who is away at school, received a notice on her phone a couple of weeks back that there was an updated available. She was a bit nervous about doing it so waited until she was home over the weekend a week and a half ago and asked me about it. I told her to go ahead and do it. She hit the button to install the update. It downloaded, displayed an error message and the phone turned off. It wouldn't turn back on. We searched a bit, tried all the known key combinations to reset it, but it was a brick.
So the next day I headed over to the AT&T store. They tried a few things and agreed that it was dead. They checked the phone over and stated there was no physical or water damage. They contacted the warranty center over the phone, arranged for the return and handed me the phone handset to agree to terms. Turns out the only way they would warranty the phone is if I sent them the phone and agreed, in advance, to pay $459 if they decided it was not a warranty issue. I asked for clarification, repeated what had happened, and they just kept saying that was the requirement. I mentioned that the store rep and manager had already checked the phone, that there was no physical or water damage, and tried to understand why I would still have to agree to these terms. I asked if they would just agree to send the phone back if there was any other problem. They just kept repeating the same thing, I had to agree to the $459 potential charge with no recourse. They kept stating that I "would probably not be charged." I would not agree and asked the agent and manager on duty if there were any other options. They mentioned an AT&T service center about a half an hour away.
The store wrote me a referral to the service center and told me they could replace the phone on the spot. So off I went. A half an hour car drive and a wait in line and I was informed by the service center staff that they do not stock the Captivate and it would have to be returned to a warranty center. I said, do it. They said, no, I have to return it and that meant -- you guessed it -- agreeing to the same terms. Needless to say I was a bit frustrated at this point. So a half an hour drive home to cool off... or not.
The following day I started searching and found stories of people getting warranty service through Samsung. Wondering what their warranty terms are, I phoned Samsung's number. After repeating the phone death story, they said it was a warranty issue and emailed me a shipping label to send it back. Happy that things were looking up, I boxed it up and sent it off.
Fast forward a week and I just received a notification from Samsung that the phone is being returned, unrepaired. Here is the verbage used:
I get on the phone with Samsung, inform them the phone has never been wet, that both I and the AT&T folks looked at it and the water indicators showed no exposure. They explained that their service personnel do "a very thorough inspection" and that is their determination. Done. Discussion ensued, but there was absolutely no willingness on their part to take another look at the phone, explain further, or otherwise help.
So I'm out $200 plus a two-year contract or ETF fee with AT&T on a three month old phone. My daughter is quite meticulous with this sort of thing and trustworthy and tells me the phone has not been wet. I believe her. The liquid indicators agree. The phone died during an update that I now see is notorious for bricking phones. Both AT&T and Samsung would rather push it off on a customer than stand behind their product. I've been a Cingular/AT&T customer for over ten years, but apparently that's irrelevant.
So that's my story. Consider yourself warned.
BTW, if anyone figures out how to "unbrick" a phone in this state (won't turn on at all after failed update) I'd love to hear about it as the phone is physically fine.
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Assuming that the phones hardware is is working condition you should first try to put the phone in download mode. To do this first hold down BOTH volume keys simtulaniously and plug in the usb coard to the charging jack on the phone while it is attached to a computer. If you see a yellow man holding a shovel with yellow writing saying download you can recover this device. If you get this far post here and we can show you how to reinstall the ROM.
Best of luck
Samsung was right... AT&T warranty terms still ridiculous
Samsung was right and has my sincere apology. I got the phone back from Samsung service and disassembled it. It looks like liquid got into the USB port. It appears to have been a very small amount, perhaps a single drop. There is some corrosion internally on the connector between the back of the port and the PCB. That is the only damage I see, but it would have been enough to short the connection. There was no indication of water elsewhere in the phone.
I am still dumbfounded by AT&T's warranty policy. I have spoken with two more individuals at AT&T about the policy and they stand firm. You must agree to a full charge replacement of the device before they will even determine if it is under warranty or not. If they determine it's under warranty, all is well. If not, you pay for a new device, whether you want one or not. :-(
Anyway, sorry Samsung. A few more details about what you found would have been nice, but you're still OK with me. I have nothing nice to say to you, AT&T.
Oh, and keep that little door over the port closed when you can... it could save your phone.
Still sounds fishy to me. You had a working phone before the update, so why is the cause of the failure water damage. Was your daughter doing the update outside in the rain?
I deal with AT&T all day, on a day to day basis. They are pain as many of you already know. You might want to try this, if you have a Facebook account, become a fan of their page and then post up your experience/situation for everyone to see. It might just put some heat on them. Hopefully, a competent Rep could help with a resolution. Just a suggestion.
I actually prefer AT&Ts warranty as opposed to using a manufacturer. At least they send you the replacement phone first so you are not out a phone for at least a week.
I remember sending my Xperia X1 into SE, it took 3 weeks and when I finally heard back from them they they informed me my phone had liquid damage. Similar story: they sent pictures of the corrosion back with my old phone and there was a tiny spec of rust.
rajendra82 said:
Still sounds fishy to me. You had a working phone before the update, so why is the cause of the failure water damage. Was your daughter doing the update outside in the rain?
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As odd as it sounds the voltage level could of fluctuated up high enough to cause the short and fry the port among other things.
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It appears to have been a very small amount, perhaps a single drop. There is some corrosion internally on the connector between the back of the port and the PCB. That is the only damage I see, but it would have been enough to short the connection. There was no indication of water elsewhere in the phone.
Oh, and keep that little door over the port closed when you can... it could save your phone.
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I had the same problem as another poster, with the toilet incident.. except the water wasn't so clean *cough*
Anyway, I have the same recommendation.
KEEP YOUR CHARGING PORT SHUT WHEN NOT IN USE!
I'm positive it would have saved my phone from water damage for the tenth of a second it took me to ninja snatch it from submersion. Same situation; none of the litmus papers (water damage indicators) were red.
The only additional advise i can give is to buy the third-party insurance that AT&T offers at some locations at the time of purchase (or know someone that will sign you up for it afterwards). It covers water damage it's $5.99/month and the deductible is $75 for smartphones.
Oh and don't bother with the Mobile Locate service AT&T offers..Theft Aware does that and way more, AND it's like $6 ONCE!
EDIT: yea i thought about that too. It seems kinda strange that it only went berserk during the update. Maybe a wire in the phone only gets used when doing something like an update and when it had voltage applied to it..it fried
I bought my Nexus S at Best Buy when it was free for AT&T last week and I was coxed into buying their Black Tie Protection Plan. I have to say that it was a great idea. However, I took my phone in, because I had a deep scratch in the screen and they told me it's a no go, and they wouldn't accept it for repair. The scratch was deep enough where I could feel it with my fingers... In the end, the phone had to be more impacted, like a cracked screen. They told me Zagg would make it look like new again... All of this while I was waiting for my Case Mate case in the mail...
So I went home and intentionally dropped my phone from two feet from the ground and it smashed the screen! I was "hopping" it would hold up a bit better than it did, but it did have a scratch in the screen. Went back to BB today and turned it in... unfortunately I had read terrible stories of BB repair turn around times, taking up to three weeks!!! So here I am waiting for a commencement email from BB regarding the repair...
Anyone else have experience with BB Black Tie Protection?
The speaker on my first nexus blew out and I also had the black tie protection. Instead of repairing mine they just approved me for junk out about a week later and i went into best buy and got a brand new one. The only way it's gonna take a terribly long time is if the repair center is bogged down or they are having trouble repairing the phone. I wouldn't worry about it too much as the typical time is usually gonna be no more than two weeks.
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I have the black tie. Never did a repair though. however I did have to take my nexus in yesterday because of wonky touch buttons. They said I qualified for rapid exchange. They took my nexus, gave me an LG Optimus loaner, and said I'd h have a new nexus in 3 days. Can't beat that!
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I took mine in for repair because the screen started to lift up on the top right corner. They said it would be taken care of in 3 to 5 business days. That was four business days ago. Also on the Geek Squad tracking website it still shows my device only as being checked in. Luckily I still have my N1 as a backup phone.
I was with GeekSquad a long time ago and their Policy then was, that Under no circumstances would they cover screen scratches or cracks. I'm sure that still stands now.
3 weeks is normal if they send the phone to Samsung, at least it's normal for European electronic device (phones, laptops, tvs, etc) exchanges/repairs.
Because I work for Geeksquad, I can answer most questions reguarding BTP.
90% of the phones sold at BBY qualify for Rapid Exchange BTP, the remaining 10% are either standard repair (taking approx 3-4 weeks to send it in get it repaired and then shipped back, but they provide a loaner phone everytime.) or In-store exchange.
Rapid exchange is essentially a pre-repaired phone, aka refurb. Instead of waiting normal repair times you get refurbs normally within 3 business days.
As for the OP, whoever told you scratches were not covered is lieing to you. BTP covers everything except blatent abuse, IE smashing the phone infront of an employee or sticking it under a tire and driving over it on purpose(yes they really can tell). This also includes water damage. Next time they tell you its not covered, ask to speak to a manager.
Well, I should have posted this before cracking the screen. And I thought they told me BTP covered everything except lost or stolen! (So I wouldn't have to go through the pain of cracking my screen...) And the rapid exchange wouldn't work because I have an AT&T version, which I believe is sold out...
Now I have to pain through three weeks!!! Dang!
Thanks for the info.
jake.corey.jacobs said:
Because I work for Geeksquad, I can answer most questions reguarding BTP.
90% of the phones sold at BBY qualify for Rapid Exchange BTP, the remaining 10% are either standard repair (taking approx 3-4 weeks to send it in get it repaired and then shipped back, but they provide a loaner phone everytime.) or In-store exchange.
Rapid exchange is essentially a pre-repaired phone, aka refurb. Instead of waiting normal repair times you get refurbs normally within 3 business days.
As for the OP, whoever told you scratches were not covered is lieing to you. BTP covers everything except blatent abuse, IE smashing the phone infront of an employee or sticking it under a tire and driving over it on purpose(yes they really can tell). This also includes water damage. Next time they tell you its not covered, ask to speak to a manager.
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Sorry, BTP was not around back then. I was a GeekSquad DA at launch; remained for two and a half years.
For the background to my issue please read the following thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44279573#post44279573
This thread is to give my experience of the RMA service that I have received, not the fault itself which was "fixed".
So essentially I was advised by Asus support that DHL would come with a special box to take the tablet away and to send all accessories such as the charger with the tab. However the DHL email said that I should pack in my own box and not to include any accessories. It was not clear to me whether the keyboard and charger would count as accessories or not. I decided not to include the charger as I had already verified that wasn't the cause of my issue and the charger is listed on Asus's own website as an accessory. However I was later told that I should have included the charger. All a bit confusing, mixed information but a small issue when you read below. I can't fault the tracker service or the speed of the "repair" either. I was happy to know exactly where my tablet was at all times and that it wasn't going missing.
Now everything I thought was fine until my I opened the box last Friday with my freshly "repaired" tablet. Like many of you guys I take extremely good care of my tech. I could have easily passed my tablet off as brand new with not so much as a hairline scratch on it after 10 months use. You can imagine my horror when I saw what it looked like on return. Essentially the list of problems is as follows;
Curve along bottom edge of tablet that should be flat.
Screen not fitted properly on right hand side.
Screen not fitted properly on left hand side.
Damage to case on power connector socket.
Plastic strip on top rear not fitted properly.
Haptic vibration creates a noise like a duck quack.
HDMI output has horrible red interference.
Glue residue on back of casing.
I have attached images below for you to see the quality of the repair work. What is especially annoying is that when I first called up to complain on Friday the only thing they were interested in was if I had pictures from before I sent the tab in. I am annoyed because when I raised a concern about the quality of repair work prior to sending my tablet I was assured by Asus Support that the repairers were monitored for quality of work and everything would be fine. It was only because of my mistrusting nature with this type of thing that I took pictures showing the condition it was in and how I packed it.
It should be noted that I only expected the battery to be replaced during the repair. According to the service report the screen and the motherboard were also replaced. I now believe that they must have been damaged during their removal from the now damaged shell case. To cover their tracks they listed faults with them which would require replacement such as "mechanical fault". I am absolutely furious with Asus over this shoddy repair and have informed them that I do not accept the repair and am seeking a new tablet to replace the one they have ruined. I am yet to have a response after sending them the pictures and I will keep the thread updated as I do. :crying::crying::crying:
Mine is in Texas right now with digitizer problems. Mine is as yours WAS, like new in appearance. I hope to God it is returned in the same condition. There is no excuse for returning a customers stuff in that condition. If they botched up the repairs that badly they should have replaced it.
Good luck, hope they resolve it for you. It clearly appears from your pics that they botched the job and owe you a replacement.
I recently had my digitizer repaired by the Texas facility and mine came back in the same pristine condition it was in when I sent it and the repair was without problems.
Keep us posted.
That truly is one awful repair job.
"Haptic vibration creates a noise like a duck quack."
This did make me laugh tho
flumpster said:
That truly is one awful repair job.
"Haptic vibration creates a noise like a duck quack."
This did make me laugh tho
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Yeah, if I wasn't so annoyed I'd probably find it funny too.... Sound file uploaded for your consideration... (I had to zip it as the forum didn't like mp3 or aac).
I'm sorry to hear all that mate! That is shocking. Stand your ground and don't take no for an answer.
I appreciate the kind words folks. Apparently my photos have been forwarded to the correct department within Asus. Which I hope is the "sending out new tablet department".
Your case tells me I should consider myself lucky they (the same service center) only slashed the box!
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Wow, talk about screwing up a repair... This reinforces my belief that sending in my 700 for a screen repair (a nice crack in the upper right corner) is a bad idea.
Good luck with the fight ahead!
An update for everyone. I sent over the pictures of before and after as requested. My email was rejected as being too large (around 12Mb I think it was). I asked what was the maximum size email I could send and received no response. I then decided to split the email in to 5, ensuring that each email was less than 5Mb. Over a week later I enquired what was the status to be told the person dealing with my request was on holiday and would reply the next day. I duly received a reply saying that they still needed pictures of (.....) so it seems they could only find 1 of my clearly labelled 5 emails (number 1 to 5).
I was also informed that I would not be entitled to a replacement tablet as warranty only provides for a repair. I replied to that email by saying that "I am also entitled to a quality of repair that doesn't damage the rest of my tablet in the process. I am not claiming for warranty repair work to be done on my tablet, I am saying that during the warranty repair of my tablets battery, my tablet was unneccessarily damaged due to poor workmanship and now needs replacing."
The last email I have received says they have now got the photos and my request has been forwarded to "higher management". I don't know who higher management is, but let's hope it is someone who is just as horrified as me at the quality of repair work and agrees that somoene paying top price for their electronics and takes the time to look after them properly, should not have to accept such poor standards from Asus themselves. They're making it really hard for me to ever consider spending money on an Asus product again.
Once again, fingers crossed.
I have receied a response from Asus;
"Dear John,
Thank you for awaiting our response.
Kindly note that the management investigated your case and decided to offer you a free of charges repair.
They came to that conclusion as the key out video, the video that record whether a customer’s unit left the repair centre in a good condition was of poor quality, because so we can't see if the unit was damaged or not.
Please let me know if you want to proceed with the free of charges repair? Once your response is received I will create a new repair RMA to and book a collection. What would be a convenient collection date?
We look forward to your response.
Kind Regards,"
I read that to mean: Asus can't prove that it wasn't their fault the tablet was damaged, and I can. Therefore they will just repair it for me. I am supposed to be grateful that this won't cost me anything. For my inconvenience they are offering me nothing in return. I would have thought at least they would have offered some sort of token to apologise, even if they won't replace the tablet.
What do you guys think? If they repair it and it looks as good as it did previously, I wouldn't have a problem. I'm just worried that it will come back looking as bad/worse. My real concern is that if the outside is a mess, is the inside put together properly? Is the tablet going to fail in another few months because a connector hasn't been put on properly inside, or a wire has been part way cut through/trapped, etc, etc...
I've emailed them to have one more try at getting a replacement, which I really think is the honorable thing to do. At least I know what kind of company Asus aspire to be. Currently I don't think I'll be going anywhere near anything Asus ever again.
Imho they should replace it, they made a mess with the repair so it's their fault. You sent the device in perfect condition so their duty is to send it back after repair in the same condition. I wonder what they mean with repair now, replacing the body and keep the internal parts or what.
Whatever, if you accept this repair offer make it clear that you expect a perfect repair and also the device must return in perfect condition, wtf, you paid for the damn thing. Good luck!
Thanks for the reply and support.
I'm rightly playing hardball so avoided asking details of the proposed repair. Don't worry though, I would need to understand exactly what their proposed repair solution is before I would agree or send away my tablet to them again. Unlucky for them that I'm a professional mechanical design engineer used to dealing with quality engineering.
Gudders said:
Thanks for the reply and support.
I'm rightly playing hardball so avoided asking details of the proposed repair. Don't worry though, I would need to understand exactly what their proposed repair solution is before I would agree or send away my tablet to them again. Unlucky for them that I'm a professional mechanical design engineer used to dealing with quality engineering.
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I RMA'd my Asus TF300T around 3 months ago due to LCD banding and light bleed (Asus UK service center in the Czech Republic). There were numerous problems with the repair. Firstly, the charger was badly scuffed, the plastic casing was popping out (exposing the headphone jack and other ports) , the screen was on an angle, the glass wasn't glued down securely (movement/creaking) and they managed to chip part of the plastic surrounding the screen. I showed the problem to the store's manager (Argos, as I let them deal with it) and she agreed that she would let me have an exchange or pick a different tablet without argument. I exchanged for a Note 10.1.
Hope your issue gets resolved.
I would INSIST on the tablet being replaced and not repaired. It's pretty obvious that they can't make proper repairs already.
BTW: I got mine back with no cosmetic damage at all. So a proper repair is possible they just need some new employees at that repair facility.
Mine was in for the touch screen. I have no idea what was done. Right after I restored all my apps, about 4 hours, it started acting badly again. I called Asus on the phone. I was given another RMA and emailed a return shipping label. During my phone call I turned off the tablet. It was powered down for about 15 minutes. I powered it back up and have not had one incident with the touch screen since! Its been a week without trouble from the screen. I called to inform them at Asus and was told the RMA is good for 30 days. If problems develop just use it to send it back.
So far, so good.. .. .
It seems that Asus are are refusing to budge on the issue. My concern now is that due to the bend and stress on the screen at some point in the future it may crack and I'll be left without a tablet forever, so it seems I may have to relent and send it in for repair anyway :crying:
I have still had no answer from Asus on the following;
The screen was replaced, including the LED backlight. I have no idea why they were. A problem has been listed of "Abnormal lines on display". I never reported such a fault. My suggestion is that the screen was damaged on removal at the same time as the case was damaged through carelessness.
The motherboard was replaced. Again I have no idea why. I don't know if the charging issues related to the motherbaord or not. I don't believe so as everything else functioned correctly. Was the motherboard also damaged on removal?
"Mechanical Error" was listed as a problem. I have no idea at all what this refers to. The keyboard has not been touched, thankfully, and except for the power/vol buttons (which are terrible to begin with, and worse now) what else mechanical is there?
Asus have offered me nothing as a token of apology. I would have expected at the least to send me an accessory, or money off asus products in the store, something along those lines. Nothing, zip.
My folks were looking into buying a tablet and I was recommending them a Nexus 7. However that will definitely not be happening now. If anyone else is having second thoughts, or actually cancelled/changed their mind on buying Asus after reading this please PM me. I'll be happy to forward the statistics to Asus themselves.
Gudders said:
It seems that Asus are are refusing to budge on the issue. My concern now is that due to the bend and stress on the screen at some point in the future it may crack and I'll be left without a tablet forever, so it seems I may have to relent and send it in for repair anyway :crying:
I have still had no answer from Asus on the following;
The screen was replaced, including the LED backlight. I have no idea why they were. A problem has been listed of "Abnormal lines on display". I never reported such a fault. My suggestion is that the screen was damaged on removal at the same time as the case was damaged through carelessness.
The motherboard was replaced. Again I have no idea why. I don't know if the charging issues related to the motherbaord or not. I don't believe so as everything else functioned correctly. Was the motherboard also damaged on removal?
"Mechanical Error" was listed as a problem. I have no idea at all what this refers to. The keyboard has not been touched, thankfully, and except for the power/vol buttons (which are terrible to begin with, and worse now) what else mechanical is there?
Asus have offered me nothing as a token of apology. I would have expected at the least to send me an accessory, or money off asus products in the store, something along those lines. Nothing, zip.
My folks were looking into buying a tablet and I was recommending them a Nexus 7. However that will definitely not be happening now. If anyone else is having second thoughts, or actually cancelled/changed their mind on buying Asus after reading this please PM me. I'll be happy to forward the statistics to Asus themselves.
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Any update?
mr.fast said:
Any update?
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Not as such. I have been given an address that I can write to to lodge a formal complaint;
FAO Service manager
AsusTek U.K. LTD.
1st floor Hemel One
Boundary way
Hemel Hempstead
HP2 7YU
I am waiting for an RMA number so I can send my tablet back for a second repair. I have been assured that the service centre will be prepared and will make ammends for the poor repair that was done last time. I have no other choice but to go with this option for the time being. I have no idea what response I will get from the above address
Gudders said:
Not as such. I have been given an address that I can write to to lodge a formal complaint;
FAO Service manager
AsusTek U.K. LTD.
1st floor Hemel One
Boundary way
Hemel Hempstead
HP2 7YU
I am waiting for an RMA number so I can send my tablet back for a second repair. I have been assured that the service centre will be prepared and will make ammends for the poor repair that was done last time. I have no other choice but to go with this option for the time being. I have no idea what response I will get from the above address
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Any chance of an update ?
boakesm said:
Any chance of an update ?
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Tablet has been with Asus since 24th September back at Brno, CZ. Anticipated completion date of next Monday 7th October. It only took a week to "repair" last time but they may be having a closer look at what has gone on and take a little longer. I'm happy for them to do that and get it right. Just a shame that I am away in Italy at the back end of this week on business and it would have been great to have my tablet to watch a film, keep up to date, etc.
Once I receive it back I shall be writing my complaint letter.
To make a long story short my LCD panel started to bleed at the top of my screen. There was no apparent cracks and no signs of impact but my mobile carrier refused to call it a defect and quoted me a repair price of $175, even with the insurance I pay $10 a month for. I filled out a LG repair form, they send me my prepaid label, get an email saying it is a defect and they will repair for free and I'll have my phone back in 4 days. Excellent, until I get my phone in the mail. I will post pictures once my girlfriend gets home and I can use her camera, but holy hell my screen looks like Freddy Krueger tried using it. My screen was flawless when I sent it in, I bought a tempered glass protector minutes after getting the phone so there was no damage prior to sending it in. I could live with a small scuff or something but this is absolutely ridiculous, I'm talking deep, DEEP scratches. I contacted LG and spoke with 2 different representatives just to see if I could get a different answer out of somebody else, but both have told me the only option is to send it back in for repair and they will offer no other compensation. I'm also having doubts that this is my original phone. My girlfriend and I both have a V10 so I put a small white dot behind the battery and that's no longer there, and my left rail had a small scratch on it at the very top and that is no longer there.
Has anybody else had a similar situation with LG? I've already went a week without my phone and I'm not really up for going another week without it, especially not knowing what condition I'll get it back in. I need to access my emails for work. My mobile carrier won't issue me a loaner phone since I'm not getting the repair done through them.
ThisIsCheez said:
To make a long story short my LCD panel started to bleed at the top of my screen. There was no apparent cracks and no signs of impact but my mobile carrier refused to call it a defect and quoted me a repair price of $175, even with the insurance I pay $10 a month for. I filled out a LG repair form, they send me my prepaid label, get an email saying it is a defect and they will repair for free and I'll have my phone back in 4 days. Excellent, until I get my phone in the mail. I will post pictures once my girlfriend gets home and I can use her camera, but holy hell my screen looks like Freddy Krueger tried using it. My screen was flawless when I sent it in, I bought a tempered glass protector minutes after getting the phone so there was no damage prior to sending it in. I could live with a small scuff or something but this is absolutely ridiculous, I'm talking deep, DEEP scratches. I contacted LG and spoke with 2 different representatives just to see if I could get a different answer out of somebody else, but both have told me the only option is to send it back in for repair and they will offer no other compensation. I'm also having doubts that this is my original phone. My girlfriend and I both have a V10 so I put a small white dot behind the battery and that's no longer there, and my left rail had a small scratch on it at the very top and that is no longer there.
Has anybody else had a similar situation with LG? I've already went a week without my phone and I'm not really up for going another week without it, especially not knowing what condition I'll get it back in. I need to access my emails for work. My mobile carrier won't issue me a loaner phone since I'm not getting the repair done through them.
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well...my V10 have the bleeding issue in the second screen too, its legible when in a dark envroiment and i dont like that but...guess what?! i dont care about that bleeding issue so much because i know 60% (or more) V10's have the same issue...is LG issue but i dont bother about this!
is a waste of time send it to repair and then they dont take care of your phone and get scratches everywhere and you get a worst phone than you have after sending to repair! belive me, screen issues like this dont deserve that treatment.
I hope you go to repair shop (if you can) and write a coment on the book of the store explaining the things happened to you...it dont do much but LG will know they have to treat better theyr customers phones!
sun_is_shinning said:
well...my V10 have the bleeding issue in the second screen too, its legible when in a dark envroiment and i dont like that but...guess what?! i dont care about that bleeding issue so much because i know 60% (or more) V10's have the same issue...is LG issue but i dont bother about this!
is a waste of time send it to repair and then they dont take care of your phone and get scratches everywhere and you get a worst phone than you have after sending to repair! belive me, screen issues like this dont deserve that treatment.
I hope you go to repair shop (if you can) and write a coment on the book of the store explaining the things happened to you...it dont do much but LG will know they have to treat better theyr customers phones!
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Sorry to confuse, but I'm not referring to the 2nd screen bleeding light, my LCD below the front facing cameras actually starting bleeding liquid.
If you still have original box you can compare imei and serial numbers, this will tell you if it's your phone or not
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This does suck indeed. I suggest you try getting hold of one of the higher ups of your carrier there, else if nothing works perhaps you can send a complaint e-mail to LG Korea to hopefully get your matter sorted out.