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Best Handset at the moment?

Please recommend me a new handset as I'm getting the bug for a new one again and I'm a bit out of touch.
I've had just about every handset HTC has ever made since the very first XDA I.
I'm not put off by size (I love and still use my Athena)
Must be fast and good at playing video/divx etc
Prefer some kind of flash.
I kinda like the Pro2 but worried its just a pretty face and no big performance increase?
Also concidering a Hero but worried about Android. Can I transfer all contacts, calender etc over ok?
Suggestions on a postcard please

The HD2 LEO is the latest and greatest with Snapdragon! See it's section for details:http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=532
But if u want a keyboard, then the TP2.

Touch Pro 2 is the best hardware keyboard device!
We always want more!!
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......

I strongly recommend you to buy Touch Pro 2. It is more than just a pretty face. It has a tilting screen. It allows for optimum viewing angle when typing, it allows you to easily watch a movie without holding your device, and it's great if you're using GPS navigation in the car.

Thanks guys, any comments on the Hero?
Are they easy to mod and transfer contacts etc from WM?

Hero comments here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560143
All HTC devices can be modded thanks to XDA!!
All can be done (almost all )

Motorola Droid is announced tomorrow.
It'll blow the pants of anything we've seen yet.

orb3000 said:
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......
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Made me laugh.

orb3000 said:
We always want more!!
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......
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Hey orb, maybe there will be no keyboard and just visual & voice interface!
Also, there will be Kryptonite Batteries that go a year w/o a recharge!

don't worry about Android. I am a long time WM user, and had a G1 phone for almost a year now. Android is a very very nice system with a lot of software in the Marketplace.
That being said, I just got myself the new Acer neoTouch.
1 GHz Snapdragon, good amout of RAM, nice 3,8" WVGA screen, WM 6.5, configurable accelerometer, nice design, good build quality.
I would say, if you don't need a keyboard and don't want to wait for the HD2, this is the best device today. it is very speedy, has good usability and seems reliable so far.

Fuskand said:
Motorola Droid is announced tomorrow.
It'll blow the pants of anything we've seen yet.
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Shame it´s not an HTC device so it won´t have the great support of this forum. I´ll stick to HTC
KrewCial said:
Made me laugh.
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Me too
galaxys said:
Hey orb, maybe there will be no keyboard and just visual & voice interface!
Also, there will be Kryptonite Batteries that go a year w/o a recharge!
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LOL
Yeah mate, you are right

If I could design my own phone...

Maybe this phone exists somewhere but if so, I haven't found it - and not for lack of searching. It all started with a 2007 Shadow. I loved the slim size and slide-out form factor, could live with WinMo if I had to but hated the 2.0 mp camera and non-touch screen.
I've tried the Incite, the Kaiser and currently use a G1 for day to day but none of them made me as happy as my Shadow. Part of it's because if I need to make a call I don't like the touch screen dialer. Another factor is the Blackberry-like keyboard arrangement on the Shadow - I really liked it. (I could never master texting using the usual numeric keys.) It's too cumbersome to pop out the G1 or Tilt keyboard, especially dealing with stupid automated phone systems.
I like HTC phones a lot because of the community but am beginning to wonder if somewhere out there is a phone better suited for me. I'd like to stay in the Android fold but does anyone have any suggestions? Has to be GSM and unlockable because I use a weird local carrier, too, although I might consider going back to Sprint (gag) for the perfect phone.
Terry

The Palm Pre might suit you...although there is always more to get out your device when you are running WinMo or Android on an HTC device. WebOS is fantastic but you're stuck with what they give you.

chambo622 said:
The Palm Pre might suit you...although there is always more to get out your device when you are running WinMo or Android on an HTC device. WebOS is fantastic but you're stuck with what they give you.
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I played with a Pre at a local kiosk and was impressed by how nice it was but not enough better than the G1 to go back to Sprint. Now if the GSM version becomes more affordable and available, maybe...
Thanks,
Terry - now if I could just do a camera transplant on a touch dual

It would be something like this:
VGA 4" screen
From factor like HTC Universal
2ghz processor
1gb RAM
Hardware keyboard
Slim nice design
Made by HTC
A mix of Universal, Rhodium and Leo
I guess I have to wait till 2011 or 2012...

I remember reading that android was working quite well on the HTC Nike a while back. That's the same slide format as the shadow.

jez83uk said:
I remember reading that android was working quite well on the HTC Nike a while back. That's the same slide format as the shadow.
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It is so very close, but I'm spoiled by the ability to do bar code scanning with the G1. AFAIK, the 2.0 cameras can't do that - which is why I made the comment about the camera transplant. I guess I could look into the port a little closer to see if they made it work or not.
Terry

Pick My New Phone

I am ready to toss out my old Wing (my Kaiser died) and am in the market for a new phone.
The problem I am having is that I feel like purchasing a phone now would be a mistake, since it is likely that a new, mo-betta version will be out in a month or so.
As such, I am willing to wait, up to three or four months if necessary, for the perfect phone.
I have been shopping around, visiting Gizmodo and the like, searching for the best possible phone that should last me until 2012.
Anyone have any suggestions? Buy now, or wait, and if so, which phone?

Comming form kaiser you must need a hardware keyboard.
If that is correct you have 2 options:
1. Buy now a great Rhodium (the best hardware keyboard to this date)
2. Wait a few months and go for the Tera (smaller screen than Rhodium
Let us know what you´ve got

If you don't need a hardware keyboard, HD2 all the way!

If you want some new excitement from the old WM scene, then go for the awesome Nexus One android on tmobile!

Honestly, its either you settle for already out of date with any WM6.5 phone or you go for Android for which updates will keep on rolling out straight from the manufacturer. Windows Phone Series 7 was just announced, but its not going to be available until the holidays... that's 10 months from now. So if you get an HD2, unless there are ROM leaks (which are unlikely given the hush environment thus far and the fact that the ZuneHD can't be yet be cracked), your stuck with WM6.5. If you get a Touch Pro2, your already a year behind, as the hardware specifications was released a over year ago in the original Xperia X1. So honestly, Nexus One or X10 (assuming you want XDA support) are probably the way to go, if you want your phone to last you a long time. Otherwise, iPhone 3GS or Palm Pre, as both of those will definitely get all OS updates likely for the next 2 years.

Hey, Guys, thanks for the suggestions thus far.
For clarification;
I am currently on T-Mobile and with three lines, will probably be with them for a while. I also travel to Africa and Europe from time to time, so I prefer a Quad-Band, if this is still the tech for that.
I do like my hardware QWERTY, but the Wing's keyboard is lacking so I've kinda gotten used to the on-screen keyboard. I really liked Kaiser's keyboard though...
I don't like WinMo7's new interface, per the hand's-on reviews I've seen. I guess this means I'll be looking at Android.
So far, I like the Nexus One best due to the 1ghz processor, but I've read bad things about the contract(s). I'll probably end up buying the phone outright if I can get away with no contracts at all.
I checked out the Rhodium but the specs were a little light for me. Does anyone have one that can testify to it's capabilities? Looks like HTC's TouchFlo is built-in...

Snarksneeze said:
Hey, Guys, thanks for the suggestions thus far.
For clarification;
I am currently on T-Mobile and with three lines, will probably be with them for a while. I also travel to Africa and Europe from time to time, so I prefer a Quad-Band, if this is still the tech for that.
I do like my hardware QWERTY, but the Wing's keyboard is lacking so I've kinda gotten used to the on-screen keyboard. I really liked Kaiser's keyboard though...
I don't like WinMo7's new interface, per the hand's-on reviews I've seen. I guess this means I'll be looking at Android.
So far, I like the Nexus One best due to the 1ghz processor, but I've read bad things about the contract(s). I'll probably end up buying the phone outright if I can get away with no contracts at all.
I checked out the Rhodium but the specs were a little light for me. Does anyone have one that can testify to it's capabilities? Looks like HTC's TouchFlo is built-in...
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T-Mobile US or Europe?

sonus said:
T-Mobile US or Europe?
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Sorry, T-Mobile US.

Snarksneeze said:
Hey, Guys, thanks for the suggestions thus far.
For clarification;
I am currently on T-Mobile and with three lines, will probably be with them for a while. I also travel to Africa and Europe from time to time, so I prefer a Quad-Band, if this is still the tech for that.
I do like my hardware QWERTY, but the Wing's keyboard is lacking so I've kinda gotten used to the on-screen keyboard. I really liked Kaiser's keyboard though...
I don't like WinMo7's new interface, per the hand's-on reviews I've seen. I guess this means I'll be looking at Android.
So far, I like the Nexus One best due to the 1ghz processor, but I've read bad things about the contract(s). I'll probably end up buying the phone outright if I can get away with no contracts at all.
I checked out the Rhodium but the specs were a little light for me. Does anyone have one that can testify to it's capabilities? Looks like HTC's TouchFlo is built-in...
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Snark, I suggest you get the T-Mobile HTC HD2 for the U.S. I suggest you wait 2 months for the HTC HD2 to be released. I think you will be able to unlock it and make it work elsewhere if you travel.

Nexus One or HTC Bravo hands down.
Once you go android you wont go back

I like what I've read about the HD2, the specs seem to be in line with the Nexus One.
Both phones look nice, but the Nexus One seems to have an edge on the HD2, since the Android OS is open source and the HD2's OS is months from being obsolete.
From everything I've read, it looks as if WinMo7 will be locked down and that really worries me. The only reason I've stuck with WinMo phones is because of you great folks here at xda-dev. If they lock down WinMo7, how long will this site continue to offer the support they so freely give to WinMo users?
As far as the Nexus One goes, I can see that some of you are already offering OS updates for Android phones, so I suppose that this is the only way to move forward?
HD2 Pros: Can expect subsidization from my carrier.
HD2 Cons: Appears to run WinMo6.5, will the support last 2 years or more?
Nexus One Pros: Open-Source OS, tons of apps and supports and growing!
Nexus One Cons: Not subsidized under my current plan, more expensive to start but cheaper in the long run.
Thanks to everyone responding so positively! You've given me a lot to think about and a bunch of phones to review!

Seems to be a bit of excitement about the HTC Desire (nee Bravo, nee Passion) and according to the folks at modaco, its specs rival and sometimes surpass the Nexus One.
From the (leaked) photos, it sports the Sense UI and has a optical trackball for onscreen navigation.
Still no hardware keyboard, but I have the feeling that this is going to be a rare beast in the future anyway. At one point it was a must-have, but since the iPhone made it without one, the newer phones look to be pushing the envelope as well.
I will be waiting for HTC's MWC announcement today. I suspect they will offer it to Orange first in Europe and then hope to drop it in the States by X-Mas. If so, I could always order one and have it shipped overseas, but I would probably opt for the Nexus One in that case first...

Yesterday I bought the TouchPro2. It's pretty nice, but I am seriously missing the extra hardware buttons I use to interact with the Start Menu and my fav eBook reader :-(
I'm loving the awesome RAM and the nearly unlimited ROMs out there. EnergyROM's main thread has over 1000 pages already, wow!
As soon as the HD2 is back in stock, I'll be switching over to it and giving the Rhodium to my wife.
Thanks to everyone who responded with the great ideas and sorry it took me so long to actually buy the phone, LOL!

Great choice!
You won´t regret!
Rhodium is so far the best hardware keyboard device on the market
Even if not having the great 1ghz processor

Perhaps a poll is in order of the choices you are thinking about? We can let the numbers do the talking. I also agree that Android is where it is at in this day and age.

HTC Rhodium vs. HTC HD2

you may be thinking of course the HD2 is better because of its processor speed.
well do you really need a 1ghz processor because the rhodium apparently runs fine running the hd2 system. also the rhodium has a slide out keyboard. but i if you are thinking that i'm just taking the rhodium's side i'm not because there is some better things about the hd2 like the screen and the thinness etc.
Thanks

Well a lot of people form the rodhium go to the hd2. The 1 GHZ is really noticable with a touchpro 2 there is much more lag etc. Wich really downgrade the user expierce. On a rodium evrything run a lot slower. You need take care of the ram etc. In my opinion the 1 ghz it is not something extra it is really useful. For the rest the hd2 is more future proof. The populairity says enough why there are not so much tp2 users.

but it is a lot lot lot easier to type on the hard keyboard.

Zac.Santer said:
but it is a lot lot lot easier to type on the hard keyboard.
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That was exactly my concern (and it was a big one!), but I finally gave in and decided to try the HD2 for the 2-week period that Tmobile allows here in the states. I had extreme reservations about switching to the on-screen keyboard...but after getting comfortable with swype, I can say that I'm at about 80-90% of the texting speed I could achieve with the hardware qwerty, and the ease of one-handed typing and the loss of bulk MORE than make up for that little bit of difference, for me anyway.
The HD2 also affords you sooo much more "breathing room" with the increased memory and proc speed compared to the Rhodium...it really is great to not have to worry all the time about installing or running too many things at once like I had to on my TP2. I still keep it around for tweaking/testing/playing, but I can honestly say I've never once felt the need to go back to it, even when it comes to typing.
But, it's definitely an individual choice...among those of us who moved from the TP2 to HD2, a bunch are thrilled with the new hardware, but many also opted to ditch it and go back. So...try the HD2 for a little bit if you have the option, especially with swype, and see what you think

thanks thats changed my view

Zac.Santer said:
thanks thats changed my view
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I might also suggest browsing the HD2 (Leo) forums here too, just to get an idea of what different things users are experiencing etc

Hardware keyboard is more important than any faster processor, at leas on my personal opinion
My vote goes for Rhodium!!
See here please

orb3000 said:
Hardware keyboard is more important than any faster processor, at leas on my personal opinion
My vote goes for Rhodium!!
See here please
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You are a newswritter. You are typing the hole day

jan-willem3 said:
You are a newswritter. You are typing the hole day
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Yes "orb3000" is actually the name of a secret government project where normal lab rats and copy editors were surgically enhanced with bionic thumbs.

jan-willem3 said:
You are a newswritter. You are typing the hole day
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Really?
sirphunkee said:
Yes "orb3000" is actually the name of a secret government project where normal lab rats and copy editors were surgically enhanced with bionic thumbs.
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Right, actually I,m the most advanced prototype of humanoid with 4hands

I take the Rhodium anytime. I'd rather wait for the new Touch Pro.

I give my vote to the Rhodium.
When my Raphael brake down (a bath in Sprite) i was able to choice between HD2 and Rhodium, I was able to test HD2 which move allot more faster and it's cheaper (in my country) and the rhodium who has the almost "orgasmic" keyboard, my choice was Rhodium and I love this phone.

I have both devices.......
Both are excellent PDAs........
HD2's advantage: SPEED.....very little lag. Having owned several WM devices I never had a device faster
Rhodium's advantage: Keyboard. If you been using PDAs with keyboard, it will take some time to get used to the HD2
Overall I have to pick the HD2.......

HD2 for the capacitive screen. Resistive screens are lame. I thought resistive screens were pretty cool when they were the only ones I had (XPERIA X1), but as soon as I tried a capacitive there was no going back.
Personally for me I type (barely) faster on Swype than I could on the Rhodium's keyboard, so I'd never take it with that extra bulk. Did I mention the resistive screen?
Psst.. in the stickies the Leo did edge out the Rhodium for HTC device of 2009.

if you haven't voted yet think about the price the rhodium is so much cheaper about 100 pounds

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okkk.... i'm not sure how that fits in with the poll but there you go! if you want to unlock your rhodium or your hd2 he's the man

orb3000 said:
Hardware keyboard is more important than any faster processor, at leas on my personal opinion
My vote goes for Rhodium!!
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friend'scatdied said:
Psst.. in the stickies the Leo did edge out the Rhodium for HTC device of 2009.
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Really?

friend'scatdied said:
HD2 for the capacitive screen. Resistive screens are lame. I thought resistive screens were pretty cool when they were the only ones I had (XPERIA X1), but as soon as I tried a capacitive there was no going back.
Personally for me I type (barely) faster on Swype than I could on the Rhodium's keyboard, so I'd never take it with that extra bulk. Did I mention the resistive screen?
Psst.. in the stickies the Leo did edge out the Rhodium for HTC device of 2009.
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I had no idea HD2 has a capacitive screen! I guess I'm a little behind on that. My vote went to the Rhodium, mostly because of the keyboard and maybe some other little features.
I'm definitely considering trying out the HD2. Ithink I'll wait for more 1Ghz Snapdragon Phones to come out later on this year or early next year instead of switching to the HD2. I'm also hoping by that time the Android development for Rhodium will be at least close to fully operational.

In this day & age (21st century) you need to have 1Ghz Snapdragon or greater cpu!

[Q] [q] HTC HD7 PRO POLL

THIS IS A POLL FOR THE HTC HD7 PRO.
Should HTC design, manufacture, and distribute an HTC HD7 PRO?
YES.
OR
NO.

Yes
Yes
Absolutely!
Of course!
Duh!

We don't even know what the HD7 is yet. How can we say there should be a "Pro" model?!?!
Although I do think there should be a "360 Supreme-Oh" or "360 Extreme-Oh" model. This would allow it to be used as a controller for an XBOX360 AND also automatically dispense 2 slices of bacon whenever you complain about there being no cut & paste.

I think screens are big enough and with new typing softwares such as swype, doubled with a sensitive and smooth capacitive touch screen, there isn't really a need for a tactile keyboard. That's just because Im comfortable with using the on-screen keyboard.

lavike said:
We don't even know what the HD7 is yet. How can we say there should be a "Pro" model?!?!
Although I do think there should be a "360 Supreme-Oh" or "360 Extreme-Oh" model. This would allow it to be used as a controller for an XBOX360 AND also automatically dispense 2 slices of bacon whenever you complain about there being no cut & paste.
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I like this idea.

Sure. Why the hell not (even though we actually don't know what the HD7 is yet)?

I have played with the EVO and I don't like 2 things about it. 1. I don't like Android. The look and feel of the operating system on the phone you can not do as much with as with Windows Mobile, as customizing it and hacking it. 2. The capacitive screen. You either have to use your fingers or a special stylus to do anything. If you are wearing any type of gloves, you have to take them off. That really sucks in the friged winter, if you either want to do anything with the phone or need to do anything. Now all you Android fans, don't bash me for stating this. This is my own personal opinion. I am not bashing Android. All I am saying is that (I DON'T LIKE ANDROID). Notice I said ( I ). If you like it, that's fine. I know a lot of people who have the EVO, and I have also recomended it for a few people. I also want a phone that has a keyboard like my TP2. From the voting that has been done so far, I am not the only one who feels that HTC should have a PRO version of their phones, AKA physical keyboard phones.

theomni said:
I think screens are big enough and with new typing softwares such as swype, doubled with a sensitive and smooth capacitive touch screen, there isn't really a need for a tactile keyboard. That's just because Im comfortable with using the on-screen keyboard.
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Bu WinPho 7 won't have swype which makes me a sad panda.

I am hoping that HTC builds a monster of a phone with awesome specs and a sliding keyboard soon.

5 inches + FULL qwerty pls

HTC pro 7
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-7-pro-makes-the-scene-with-a-slide-out-qwerty-but-not-yet
apparently its only going to be a sprint exclusive

^ photos look great. Specs not so great, rather a slap in the face.

chizzwhizz said:
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-7-pro-makes-the-scene-with-a-slide-out-qwerty-but-not-yet
apparently its only going to be a sprint exclusive
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This one is HTC 7 Pro, Not HD7 PRO. So sad!

From what I have seen for the results of the Poll, the majority of people want an HTC HD7 PRO phone. The HTC 7 Pro will most likely make it to Sprint, but wether or not the HTC HD7 will make it to Sprint is unknown at this time. I said before that if we want HTC & Sprint to bring a phone to market, then we should E-Mail Dan Hesse at Sprint to show him that we are Very Interested in a specific type of phone. We should E-Mail him to let him know that we WANT! the HTC HD7 PRO. E-Mail him. His E-Mail address is [email protected] to show him that we ARE INTERESTED in the HTC HD7 PRO. If enough of us get together and E-Mail him, then our collective voice will be heard.

Ever think there might be technical/cost reasons why they won't do a HD7 Pro? The HD7 is the top-spec WP7 handset (actually, isn't it the highest spec phone currently announced?) so I doubt it's quite as simple as just strapping a keyboard to the back. There'll be size, weight and cost restrictions to consider.

Hopefully this is the HTC HD7 PRO that could come to Sprint.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/10/11/hands-on-with-the-htc-hd7-pro/
If so, I hope that it comes very very soon.

Mr.Sir said:
Bu WinPho 7 won't have swype which makes me a sad panda.
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Let's throw a "yet" in there seeing as how we never know what's going to happen in the coming months.
Then again, if this Windows Phone 7 keyboard is as awesome as it seems, we may never need Swype. XD
gd761 said:
Hopefully this is the HTC HD7 PRO that could come to Sprint.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/10/11/hands-on-with-the-htc-hd7-pro/
If so, I hope that it comes very very soon.
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The title is a typo. There is no such thing as the HTC HD7 Pro. That's just the HTC 7 Pro.
A huge 4.3" phone with a slide-out keyboard would make for a rather large phone. I suppose it could reach a certain demographic. I think it may be a bit too big for my tastes.

To prjkhack;
If you had checked out the link, it states there that it is an early prototype of the HTC HD7 PRO. So what you are saying is that not only the title of the link is wrong, but also the contents of the article. We should just wait and see. If it is an early prototype, then the chances of it really coming to market are good. HTC would not have made a prototype just to waste money. There was a reason why they made an early prototype of the HTC HD7 PRO. The reason is most likely that HTC knows that either there is a demand or will be a demand for it. There are many of us that want and need a physical keyboard, and there are the ones who do not want the physical keyboard at all. As I had said in the past, we have to let Sprint, or what ever other provider you have, and HTC know that we as their customers WANT certain features built into their phones. Both us and them know that it is something that can be done, since it has been done by them before. It is not like we are asking for HTC to build something totaly unrealistic.
As for everyone else;
We shal hope that this is something that will make it to market very very soon. Hopefuly, HTC would keep a lid on it and just suprise us all and release the HTC HD7 PRO for a Christmas release for Sprint.

I like how the voting is going on this. So, please keep voting.

I hope you can also run windows mobile on this device...i would buy it..if its only win7 it would be sad..