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Possible Stupid Question. Lost USB connectivity.

Hi folks.
My Tornado (imate sp5) was flashed from factory WM5 to WM6 with VJ Grace 3.3, it worked just fine. One day I lost conenctivity via activesync over the usb cable. BT activesync still works fine. I had not done anything to the connecter port other than using USB cable to activesync occasionally, and to use the wall charger.
After 2 months of going like this, I decided to upgrade to a newer Nitrogen ROM, and I enter the bootloader mode by pressig the camera button and plugging in the usb cable. The three color screen comes just fine.
Now, when I attach the USB cable, I do not see the small writing "USB" at the lower left hand corner.
Also I cannot connect it with Terraterm pro or the RUU utility, says phone is not connected via the USB.
But my usb cable still charges the phone when connected to the PC, even though activesync doesnt do anything.
Is there anything I can do?
Can it be a hardware error? Or a registry change I might have done using smarttweaks (enable/disable charging over usb-- I dont remember). If so can it be restored or undone?
I tried hard resets (clear storage and leftsoftkey/rightsoftkey/powerbutton combinations), but still it doesnt recognise activesync.
My other windows mobile devices get connected to same pc activesync with no problem, using the same data cable. Heck I even repaired by reflashing a friend's Wizard using the same pc and cable last week.
Is it possible that my tornado's usb connector port might have gone poof (it still charges the phone), and is there any remedy to that?
Thanks for reading, and please help..
Regards,
Steve

I've got the same problem. I can't connect via AS:/

I had a similar problem once in a while when I upgraded my phone to WM6; it seemed almost random. One day, the phone wouldn't switch out of Vibrate mode, and ActiveSync wouldn't synch with the phone. The first time it happened, I had VJGrace's 3.3, and 3.4 had just come out, so I went ahead and flashed it. I didn't format binfs or anything (which, in my experience isn't necessary for a functioning OS flash, just a clean one) but it flashed a fresh WM6 on, and the problem went away.
Then, a couple weeks later, I had the same problem again. It was right around the time that VJ's 3.7 came out, so I flashed that (again without format binfs) and it fixed the problem again.
Then, a couple weeks later, I had the same problem yet again. This time, Nitro's Platinum Edition had just come out, so I flashed it. Haven't had the problem again.
Interesting note - since I got my Tornado, my first Smartphone, I have only ever done the format binfs once - the first time I flashed WM6. Haven't done it since. It's my opinion that format binfs gives you a CLEAN install of WinMobile, but is not strictly necessary.
So, to summarize: try direct-flashing a new WM6 install. Just plug in the USB cable - ignore ActiveSync when it fails to synchronize - and run the updater program. It'll take care of the rest, even if AS doesn't synch.

djsleepwalker:
If you lost USB connectivity, how did you flash your phone?
Should I read between the lines that the bootloader connected properly and that it was a WM6 driver problem?

Exitao said:
djsleepwalker:
If you lost USB connectivity, how did you flash your phone?
Should I read between the lines that the bootloader connected properly and that it was a WM6 driver problem?
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To be totally honest, I'm not 100% certain. See, ActiveSync wouldn't SYNCH with the phone, but I could still "Explore" the phone. WM6 was active and working, and charged via USB cable, it just wouldn't synch.
So, after I connected the USB cable and ActiveSync popped up a message that said it couldn't synchronize with the phone, I just started up the ROMUpdateUtility program. It rebooted the phone into the bootloader for me.
I honestly never tried to start it back up in bootloader mode. The only reason I decided to just flash a new ROM was because I had already downloaded the ROM, but where I was at the time, I had no internet access (and therefore couldn't remember the steps before flashing the new ROM.) A friend of mine who has a Wizard (and who, I think, might be a member of this forum) suggested that I didn't *have* to format binfs to put an updated ROM on the phone, so I said screw it. I needed it out of Vibrate mode (my phone is my second alarm - my second line of defense against oversleeping) so I flashed the new ROM.
ninja edit: If ccpraveen is getting *nothing* when he connects the USB, then my suggestion probably won't help. But if Windows recognizes something being connected, and he can *explore* the phone, but ActiveSync just won't synchronize, then he's probably having the same problem I was. I can't tell for sure from reading his post.

Sweet...
Thanks for the comments, its all dejavu again
Djsleepwalker's comments did make me wonder, hey this is exactly my problem, except that mine doesnt connect in any manner.
Lots of similarities, problems started with VJ 3.3, on and off for a while with USB, then totally lost connection.
I am not concerned with formatting BINFS now, I somehow want to get the phone recognized.
Exitao has actually asked a VERY VALID query. It is indeed impossible to flash a phone without any USB connectivity (unless via an SD image or something). Djsleepwalker's issue was minimal, only that the PC was not showing up the activesync as connected, but indeed there WAS a connection, he could explore the phone from the pc etc, and I bet if he did go into the 3 color screen, he would have seen the "USB" on the left lower portion.
So, mine is just that. No connectivity. Nada. PC just sits dumb. Phone just gets charged, and finally into the fully charged green LED. Thats it.
Could there be something in VJ's ROM that is doing this?
I wonder, because a Wizard I once tried to repair would not let me flash upgrade either. I had to go back to a basic BUTTON ROM to get the upgrades running properly again. But there atleast I had connectivity then.
After I read DJ's comments, I tried running the RUU straight, without getting into the bootloader (for a change). Again its the same error 260. Here is a screenshot.
Anybody?
Regards
Steve

It seems, from the description, that the activesync profile became corrupt.
Deleting any device profiles from Activesync and connecting the phone as a new device might also solve the problem. However, it might be active synch on the phone that is the problem...
Anyone unsure how serious their problem is should just turn off the USB connect in activesync, start the phone into boot loader and do an "info 2" with terraterm pro.
If terraterm discovers the device, the USB is not the problem. It's activesynch.

Terraterm pro would not connect either.
I started the phone into bootloader by plugging in the usb while keeping the camera button pressed. Started the terraterm pro, selected Serial > USB, clicked Ok, Terraterm says ERROR, Cannot Open.
One minor thing, what do ppl normally see in their bootscreens? I see these lines, Tornado IPL 2.00 Tornado SPL 2.00.0000 and another line Tornado IU.
I dont remember seeing this third line saying Tornado IU before. Is it normal? It is in the middle zone( green coloured zone).
I believe my usb connector port might have a physical error. What else it could be. PC just will not detect ANY sort of USB connection.
Thanks again Exitao, I am stumped.
Regards
Steve

Have you tried any other USB ports on your computer? I know it's a longshot, but on my desktop PC one of the onboard USB ports just doesn't function at all. The other three do.
ninja edit: Maybe try it on another computer, too?

I tried on all four USB ports of my laptop, as well as on another Desktop PC I have.
Even without activesync installed, plugging in this should bring out a DING, saying something has been connected to the PC USB. (and asking for drivers, if Activesync was not installed. Here nothing happens, no DING). Remember, the same USB port is being used to sync my Wizard, Blackjack 2 and my old Himalaya even now.
Another possible reason, I was using a dumb chinese charger for charging the phone, after I lost the original one. Could that might have fried the usb pins?

ccpraveen said:
I tried on all four USB ports of my laptop, as well as on another Desktop PC I have.
Even without activesync installed, plugging in this should bring out a DING, saying something has been connected to the PC USB. (and asking for drivers, if Activesync was not installed. Here nothing happens, no DING). Remember, the same USB port is being used to sync my Wizard, Blackjack 2 and my old Himalaya even now.
Another possible reason, I was using a dumb chinese charger for charging the phone, after I lost the original one. Could that might have fried the usb pins?
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Please excuse me if I'm stating the obvious, or if I'm a bit off, as I don't haven't used my Tornado in a bit (upgraded to Touch Cruise), but in the last ROM I used, NitroGen's latest WM6 version, there was an option in settings to disable usb connectivity and only allow USB charging. Perhaps VJ's ROM has the same option and you activated it. Have you already checked this?

Did you remeber to uncheck "Alllow USB connections" in activesync before you connected the boot-loaded phone?
This may be a hardware problem. Is it possible to use a can of compressed air to blow out any dust or debris from the USB socket on the phone?
Do you have WMStorage on your phone? If not, can you load it onto your storage card and install/run the app and see if the PC will recognise your device as a USB mass storage device?
I guess you also want to check the Device Manager in Windows and check for any exclamaition marks (!) or "bangs." Both with the phone disconnected and connected, and maybe even with wmstorage enabled. If it does show your phone in the device manager, delete or remove the device in the manager and reboot.
(To get to device manager, you can right click on "my computer" and select "properties", or press the Windows key and the Pause/Break key, or go to the control panel applet.)
BTW: is this XP?
If you are using Vista, try the following:
Step 1: Press Start
Step 2: Select settings
Step 3: Select (6) Connections
Step 4: Select (0) More
Step 5: Select (1) USB to PC
Changing the type of USB connection your device uses can help with problems
connecting ActiveSync.
Step 6: Disable the option - Enable advanced network functionality
Step 7: Press done 3 times
Step 8: Return to main screen.
Step 9: Uninstall unrecognized USB device in device manager (on PC)
Step 10: reboot Phone and reconnect
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If XP, keep going...
You've stated that the PC is recognising your other devices. Isn't there a limit to the number of windows mobile devices you can sync or associate with one installation of activesync? Can you delete a device and try again?
Is USB charging enabled or disabled in your phone? Try toggling the setting to opposite whatever it is.
If you are using a firewall app, add these programs to your firewall's exemptions:
# Wcesmgr.exe
# Wcescomm.exe
# Rapimgr.exe
Or simply disable any firewalls, network traffic optimisers or possibly antivirus (some have network protections) app to test if that has an effect.

Ok guys..
I will try doing all these, step by step and lets see
And accept my sincere gratitude from my heart for detailing all these info for me, I am soo deeply moved
Sincerely
Steve

ccpraveen said:
Ok guys..
I will try doing all these, step by step and lets see
And accept my sincere gratitude from my heart for detailing all these info for me, I am soo deeply moved
Sincerely
Steve
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No need for thanx. If I helped, just give Nitro a donation on my behalf.

Well guys, with deep regret, I must say, even after trying all that, the phone stays put. PC wont recognise it, neither as a phone nor as a mass storage device. The connector port must have gone kaput.
I kinda feel stupid, u know, with all the tweaks and hacks out there, what use it is, if the dumb thing wont be recognised? Hmm.. So much for the tornado, now stuck at VJ 3.3 (unless someone find a way to flash via an SD image or something).
Well, thanks guys, your support did make me feel better, in the WM world, all is not lost, as long as there are good souls like you, willing to help, live and let live.
Regards
Steve.
PS: If the phone was not recognised in the bootloader mode, (ie even before the operating system has kicked in), I guess there should not be any difference if activesync was installed or not; and if or not mass storage option is enabled or not, right? Well, correct me if I am wrong, I think so. Could be wrong.

This is probably a useless comment, but have you tried using bluetooth instead of usb to connect to your computer?

Have u tried to delete the network card from XP device manager ?
U can also disable advanced network functionnality from your smartphone in "settings" -> "connections" -> "USB to PC"
Good luck

Can You Tried Different Usb Cable :d

i have some problem, after flashing to WM6 activesync or WM5torage can't connect..i have HTC prophet too, and i use same usb cable & PC, my HTC Prophet still can connect via activesync or WM5torage
*please..please..help us

I UPGRADEd vjgace Build_5.2.1616.18120_____v3.7 three days before today i can't connect to usb i tried diffrent app(activesync,wm5storage,internetsharing) but i can't connect so i go to bootloder mode and checked devicemanager i found device so i flashed nitrogenius rom and now working usb. try upgrade other ROM ON BOOTLODER MODE.

AT&T TILT no longer recognized on PC

I recently purchased an AT&T Tilt - love it. Everything relatively smooth for about 6 weeks. Then I go to update my sync with Outlook and nothing.
Plug in phone using USB cable to PC (running Vista 32bit) but device isn't seen. It charges but not recognized on PC - thus nothing to sync to.
I've cleared my previous sync settings in ActiveSync, unpartnered the device on my PC, uninstalled and reinstalled Windows Mobile Device Center - still nothing.
Checked to make sure phone and PC had USB connection active - yep. Checked and unchecked the "Enable advance network functionality" on the Tilts PC to USB connection setting - nothing. Ran diagnostics on my USB ports - nothing. Was able to recognize and sync my iPod and Palm handheld - no problems.
I'm out of ideas. Anyone run into this or just have an idea I missed?
Appreciate any help. Thanks.

I had something similar with mine. For some reason it stopped liking the version of Outlook running (Office 2000) on that system, evn tho' it had worked fine for many months. I connected it to our other system with Office 2007 and it was recognized right away.

Strange problem with USB connectivity

I have a strange problem with a HTC Touch PRO. Here is my problem:
- I insert the USB cable and the phone asks if I want to use mass storage or activesync
-the phone shows a connection on the screen
-The PC is not sensing anything, the activesync is not connected.
I think this problem appeared after I used a wrong usb cable...
Anyone knows anything what to try? or this is a hardware problem?

Did you select ACTIVESYNC?
There are 2 modes this phone can do..
1) Standard ActiveSYNC or
2) AS a MASS STORAGE DEVICE -like a flash drive...
You have to select ActiveSYNC to actually SYNC software/calendar, else it will show up as just another drive to drag/drop files..

Yes i did it in every way and the computer is not sensing the connection with the phone.
Anyone know what kinf of hardware is responsible for the connection with the pc?

laseru said:
Yes i did it in every way and the computer is not sensing the connection with the phone.
Anyone know what kinf of hardware is responsible for the connection with the pc?
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The problem is likely with your operating system on your pc.
You can try things like, un-installing the HTC usb driver in device manager.

Check your firewall.
- allow activesync for trusted
- I know for ZoneAlarm you have to go to the adapters section and set the ipaddress (a new one is created when your phone is hooked up via USB) to be trusted.
If that doesn't fix issue perhaps its a corrupt install of ActiveSync. Try uninstalling and reinstalling.

laseru said:
Yes i did it in every way and the computer is not sensing the connection with the phone.
Anyone know what kinf of hardware is responsible for the connection with the pc?
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I've had this happen to me. I've got so many USB to mini-USB cables and they are not all alike.
Sometimes, it would work and sometimes activesync would not recognize it.
CHANGE YOUR CABLE to another. Hopefully, you've labeled the original cable that came with the phone..
(also, look at the mini cable where it plugs into your phone. Make sure there are no loose pins and/or verify that the 'plug' is level.

Try a different USB port

Try unchecking "use advanced network configuration" in Async settings on the phone. Some computers (for various reasons) have a hard time communicating with the phone when it's configured as a network device - unchecking this will often allow Async to find and connect to the phone, at the expense of some other functionality.

coincendentally i am having the same exact issue, it started last night.
i have tried 3 different cords, on all 3 usb ports on my computer. same thing the phone asks what kind of connection i want whether i select disk drive ofr active sync noting happens. whats weird is that the phone is charging when its connected however the computer is not seeing it at all.
i have tried all the recommendations in this thread but nothing is working. anymore help would be greatly apprciated!

Me too I have tryed everything but none is working.
I think that this a hardware problem, and the problem started to happen after i used a non HTC cable, bad quality. I think some kind of controller is dead. So i started to live with that

When I connteced to the PC via USB, my TP also asked me how to connect (AS or as disc). But suddenly it doesn't ask anymore. I had to deactivate "advanced network configuration" to conntect to AS.
The checkbox "ask each time USB connects" is activated.
What can I do that the phone asks again when I connect it?
Thx.

I have the same thing going on... suddenly a few days ago my fuze only charges when I plug it in the desktop with a usb cable... I re-flashed and it worked about halfway through a sync and then started again... I've tried different cables... uninstalled all of the usb drivers, and reinstalled then updated them... Disconnected the power supply... tried every setting on my phone, and in windows.... I've even uninstalled the last batch of windows updates that came out last week... nothing seems to work...

really simple solution.
decheck advanced network config. plug in cable wait till you see usb connected. a small box. after that choose for example activesync

internet share
This happened to me last night and I figured out that after you toggle your internet sharing you can sync up again. Idk why it works out like that but it worked for me.

This sound reasonable, because the last thing I did before was selecting the "internet sharing" option in the menu when you connect to USB.
But what do you mean with "toggle your internet sharing"? Can you please describe it.
Thx.

try this
okay - first see if you're getting an active connection with your pc , not from the network connections window, but by running mymobiler. I was getting a connection through mymobiler, but active sync wasn't recognizing the device. If mymobiler works, Call your phone. it will drop your connection with mymobiler when you answer the call. then hang up the phone call. (all the while leaving your cable plugged into your phone. When the call has been disconnected your activesync will recognize the connection and sync up again. I don't know why this works, but I've been able to duplicate the results several times.

Same htc ****+ wm. Bought an iphone 3g. Everything must be tuned in windows mobile! It doesn't work how it should!

None of this seems to be working... I've even flashed new roms and it stops working halfway through the sync... it doesn't even appear as though windows recognizes the device... it makes no noise or pop-up when I connect it...
Still charges though... Don't know what is going on...

Reinstall Mobile Device Manager!
modulusman said:
None of this seems to be working... I've even flashed new roms and it stops working halfway through the sync... it doesn't even appear as though windows recognizes the device... it makes no noise or pop-up when I connect it...
Still charges though... Don't know what is going on...
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I've experienced this issue multiple times, as I use my TP to sync with many stations. The solution is way more simple than you think and it has nothing to do with cables!.
You probably use Win Vista so all you need is to uninstall "Windows Mobile Device Center", restart the PC and install a fresh copy from MS site.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=83D513EA-9DF9-4920-AF33-3A0E2E4E7BEB&displaylang=en
If you're on XP, do the same with the Active sync solution for XP.
Good luck!

yeah this happens to me every now and then. the advanced network configuration option really helps, but sometimes i just need to plugin/unplug the usb cable from teh phone/cable or cable/computer a couple more timesbefore it picks it up...
goodluck!

LG Incite CT810 - Problem with USB

So I got my shiny new LG Incite at Best Buy yesterday. I knew I was getting it a while ago, so I downloaded a bunch of games and apps to load it up with as soon as possible. I get home from the store, play around with it and let it charge for a while, then I try to connect it to my computer (After installing ActiveSync 4.5 from the included disk, as well as both of the USB drivers on the disk). Windows comes up with that "found new hardware" stuff and asks where to look for the driver to install. I tell it to look on the CD, as well as the directories where the USB drivers from the disk were installed. It looks like it's working at first, but then I get this error:
(Error: "The data is invalid.")
Then it gives me the message balloon about how there was an error during installation and my new hardware may not work properly, etc. Now when I go to Device Manager, a number of things showed up with that little yellow exclamation point that I'm pretty sure were not there before, but I could be wrong:
- IEEE 1394 Bus host controllers: VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
- Network Adapters: Unknown device, WAN miniport (L2TP), WAN miniport (Network Monitor), and Windows Mobile-based Device
- Ports (COM & LPT): Communications Port (COM1)
So I tried reinstalling the drivers from a link I found in a thread on these boards (after clicking uninstall for "Windows Mobile-based Device" and having it tell me that the device is necessary to boot up the computer), but the same thing keeps happening. I also tried having ActiveSync scan for devices, but it never finds anything (Just says that USB is "available").
Please help, I really want to start putting pictures, music, and all that good stuff on my brand new phone
(btw, I'm pretty sure the problem is with the software/drivers on the computer, because when I plug in the USB cable the phone starts to charge. Other than that, nothing happens on the phone.)

If at all possible, I would try using the phone with another computer. For quite some time I was only able to sync data with my laptop and not my desktop, so I knew it was a software issue and not the phone itself.

would say it's down to
dead activesync install and no uninstalling it is not enough one have
to remove all traces of it in registry too
and it could also be an issue with usb drviers for the motherboard

chad.pflughaupt said:
If at all possible, I would try using the phone with another computer. For quite some time I was only able to sync data with my laptop and not my desktop, so I knew it was a software issue and not the phone itself.
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Well, I'm not going to have another computer until September at least, so I really want to get it working on this computer, but I guess I could test it out on a friend's pc to see if my computer is the problem.
Rudegar said:
would say it's down to
dead activesync install and no uninstalling it is not enough one have
to remove all traces of it in registry too
and it could also be an issue with usb drviers for the motherboard
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Know of any links or tutorials that would tell me all of the registry entries I'd have to remove?

(Sorry for the double post, but no one was replying...)
So I found my bluetooth adapter for my PC, and after I installed the proper software I could connect to my phone no problem. After that, I just used the bluetooth adapter's software to transfer files to my phone via FTP. (ActiveSync still just sat there, even when I set my phone to sync with bluetooth instead of USB, and I allowed wireless connections in ActiveSync)
So I'm glad I can finally transfer files, but I still want to get USB working. No one has any ideas at all?

(Triple post... sorry)
Ok, something happened to the bluetooth drivers and software now. I turned my computer off for the night after using bluetooth to transfer files to my phone, but when I turned on my pc today and clicked the shortcut to start the bluetooth software, I got a message saying that the program the shortcut was linking to no longer existed. Sure enough, the folder was gone from my Program Files directory. Now, every time I try to reinstall it, I get an error 183 that installation was interrupted.
So now I'm back to having no means of transferring files to my phone.
Please, any suggestions at all will be helpful to me at this point. I'm at my wits end!

Any progress on this?
I have a similar problem. I think usb sync worked on my laptop at one point, but hasn't for at least a week.
I was able to fix the problem at least temporarily by disconnecting the device, deleting it from ActiveSync and reconnecting. ActiveSync happily added it back and resynced everything. Now I can install the new Xcite ROM.

Still nothing...
Now my computer doesn't do anything at all when I plug my phone in, not even make a noise or ask about drivers. My phone, however, still recognizes that it's plugged in.
At least I got bluetooth working again, but still, USB would be nice.
It's hard to believe that out of every member on this forum, no one has even the slightest idea of where to start...

Menu - settings - connections - USB to PC.
Uncheck Enable advanced ...
OK TO ALL AND READY

Don't really know where to start.

I'll try and make this short. Phone charges fine on comp. or charger. Phone works some what fine. Bluetooth seems to be getting quieter and quieter, but thats not the main issue. WMDC isnt working. I uninstalled it and restarted, I downloaded a newer version, I even tried about 5 cables and still the computer isnt even seeing any device what so ever. I was going to task 29 and reflash but now I'm affraid if the phones not even being recognized. Is there some setting or something that happened to of gotten changed that block my phone other than the obvious -virus protection.
Using windows 7. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Try a different usb port. I have had issues where the port I normally use for charging/syncing refuses to recognize my phone. I just use a different port and everything works fine. Even the first port starts working again. Windows 7 does seem to reinstall drivers again when I use switch ports, so patience is required.

Tried many different ports. Can't do a hard reset because : 1- I have some info and text that needs to be sync'd and : 2 my end button doesn't work anymore. Actually it was sticking so I kinda disconnected it. I would try to do a reflash from a SD card but like I said, I have stuff that I need sync'd and I'm not really sure if the phone just isnt going bad or software. I guess either way it wouldn't matter. Would like to learn how to sync with wifi.

I believe there is a wifi-sync method/program, but am not aware of the specifics. You could save your information to your sd card and simply use a usb reader to transfer the information that way. Or you can use the blutooth explorer on the phone to transfer to another blutooth device. Or I believe Google has a sync service so you can sync you information to your computers anytime and anywhere.
You can remap the "end" function to another key.
Your phone's usb port could have a cracked connection as mine disconnects while synced if I move the phone too much.

WMDC does not recognize the Mobile Device "MSW Vista and Later OS"
Try this procedure(s);
Settings, All Settings, Connections, USB Connections, clear the "Fast File Transfer" check mark under the Active Sync option. Restart the device and before connecting to the PC Double check to see if the the fast file transfer is still clear. then go ahead and try to see if your PC sees your device. Good Luck.
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