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So I know that ROM choice is a matter of preference...but what about Radio version?
I assume (haven't tried i yet) that the ROM is flashed separately from the radio (as it was on my 6700)?
Is there a good post somewhere regarding the pros and cons of each radio version? I could not find one...
Should I assume that the latest version is the best, and if so...what is the latest and where do I find it? (again list of all radio versions would be nice if anyone has a link to thread)?
I have a Tilt BTW with AT&T...so if there is a particular version superior for my service that info is appreciated.
Thanks again!
yeah right here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
Unfortunately, it isn't as simple as: The latest Radio is the best. It also isn't as simple as: A particular version works best with the Kaiser. Another factor to take into account will be your location, as the radio will determine what kind of signal you get when using your phone/GPS/GPRS/etc. Your best option is to try each of them out and see which one is best for you, i.e:
Which seems gives you the best signal?
Which seems to give you the best Battery Life?
As it seems you're new to the Kaiser, you should know that nothing is as straight forward as it seems
with WM6.0 I was getting H in the philly-south jersey area, I just flashed to 6.1 and I dont get ang H at all only 3g. Can any one around the area suggest a good radio for the area
jweather said:
with WM6.0 I was getting H in the philly-south jersey area, I just flashed to 6.1 and I dont get ang H at all only 3g. Can any one around the area suggest a good radio for the area
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I'm running NoThrills WM 6.1, with the only compatible radio, and I have no issues with 3G/HSDPA in Philadelphia and South Jersey. Even amongst the steel beams at Citizen's Bank Park last night, I was getting full bars with HSDPA available the whole time.
I went ahead and flashed Sluths new one and now my battery doesn't bleed like a stuck pig. REEE REEEE REEEE
NotATreoFan said:
I'm running NoThrills WM 6.1, with the only compatible radio, and I have no issues with 3G/HSDPA in Philadelphia and South Jersey. Even amongst the steel beams at Citizen's Bank Park last night, I was getting full bars with HSDPA available the whole time.
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I was running dutty's new 6.1 with radio 1.58.16.27, I get the 3g icon but no H, i flashed back to alex rom and now again I get H just about everywhere. what radio are you using?
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I was running dutty's new 6.1 with radio 1.58.16.27, I get the 3g icon but no H, i flashed back to alex rom and now again I get H just about everywhere. what radio are you using?
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I'm using 1.65.14.06, but I am not sure which other ROMs it may be compatible with. At the time that NoThrills released his 6.1 ROM, it would only work with his because part of it is OS Version dependent.
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I'm using 1.65.14.06, but I am not sure which other ROMs it may be compatible with. At the time that NoThrills released his 6.1 ROM, it would only work with his because part of it is OS Version dependent.
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Is this radio capable with stock TILT? I'm currently using that at the moment while I familiarize myself with the device, and would like to recieve HSDPA and am in the philly area. I have applied the necessary kaiser tweaks, etc. but still no H on my screen and mid range 3G bars.
Chaptop said:
Is this radio capable with stock TILT? I'm currently using that at the moment while I familiarize myself with the device, and would like to recieve HSDPA and am in the philly area. I have applied the necessary kaiser tweaks, etc. but still no H on my screen and mid range 3G bars.
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No. This radio requires a WM 6.1 ROM and AT&T has yet to release their official upgrade from 6.0. HTC just released their versions yesterday, so AT&T will probably have something within a week or two.
jweather said:
I was running dutty's new 6.1 with radio 1.58.16.27, I get the 3g icon but no H, i flashed back to alex rom and now again I get H just about everywhere. what radio are you using?
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I don't think dutty's rom has H icon, so even if you're running h, you wouldn't know
tak.japan said:
I don't think dutty's rom has H icon, so even if you're running h, you wouldn't know
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For all of you who don't have an H, only a 3G. Make sure you've enabled HSDPA. The simplest way is to install "kaisertweak." You should all be useing it anyway because it's such a great tool.
with WM6.0 I was getting H in the philly-south jersey area, I just flashed to 6.1 and I dont get ang H at all only 3g
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"H" means HSDPA (2nd Generation after GPRS), "3G" means UMTS, (3rd Generation), i think so...
Because ive a "H" with my non UMTS-compatible, and a "3G" with my UMTS-Compatible phones...only a idea...
I'm running Dutty's Apr29v2 with the 1.64.08.21 radio and I have 3G and H signal in Santa Ana, CA... I also tried the Niki radio, 1.58.16.27 and had great service w/ 3g & H. Battery life is a little better with the 1.64.08.21 from what I saw but gonna go back and try that radio again soon... Let you know...
arpy said:
"H" means HSDPA (2nd Generation after GPRS), "3G" means UMTS, (3rd Generation), i think so...
Because ive a "H" with my non UMTS-compatible, and a "3G" with my UMTS-Compatible phones...only a idea...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Packet_Access
and to those running Dutty's ROM- there's an option to enable HSDPA in the connections menu and/or you can use the registry hack to enable the icon.
For what it's worth, the stock tilt ROM never gave me the "H" icon- it always said 3G no matter where I was
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Packet_Access
and to those running Dutty's ROM- there's an option to enable HSDPA in the connections menu and/or you can use the registry hack to enable the icon.
For what it's worth, the stock tilt ROM never gave me the "H" icon- it always said 3G no matter where I was
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My stock ROM displayed 3G for about 1 day. Then I resumed feeding my flashing addition left over from my Wizard and haven't seen anything other than H for 8 months now.
after i rooted i never get H+ anymore in my house. i used to be able to but now i dont.
hm?
did you root and load a rom? if so you probably now have HSDPA+HSUPA instead of ATT's locked down hspa+
Do a speed test if are getting over 3 MB/s download and more than 350 kb/s upload then the icon doesn't matter and you are doing fine.
Many have already mentioned you will likely not see the speed til the HSPA+ is fully turned on around March
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did you root and load a rom? if so you probably now have HSDPA+HSUPA instead of ATT's locked down hspa+
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yeah i rooted and loaded the rom in the development section. id also do a speed test but i have like 2 bars now so i know its gonna suck haha.
Slightly off topic, I have always gotten an H+ at 3-4 bars but my speedtests (24 hours at couple hour increments) I've never gotten above 1.8Mb (1.0 min). In the store the data was flying, and across the street but didn't do a speedtest. Need to go back and try. Anyways I do wonder if H+ is going to be gimmiky until it's much broader release.
It's going to display the h+ anytime you're not connected to edge with the stock phone. When backhaul work is done you should see a difference.
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It's going to display the h+ anytime you're not connected to edge with the stock phone. When backhaul work is done you should see a difference.
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that isnt what his issue is. read the rom that is posted thread... he isnt going to see the H+ symbol from what I have seen in from that thread...
Do you think its the rom or the radio?
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It is the rom. I think the rom that attn1 posted just doesnt include the H+ icon.
A store rep told me that to see the speed increase I'll need a 4G sim card. Right now I'm getting around 2,997 kbps down & 698 kbps up. He said that Houston is a test market and that 4G went live yesterday. Only problem is that they won't be getting any 4G sim cards till next week.
Does this even sound legit?
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It is the rom. I think the rom that attn1 posted just doesnt include the H+ icon.
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Didn't even think that lol
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i too have lost my HSDPA capabilities after rooting with GB sense 3.0 rom V5 rom..
In the network mode menu i only get the option for gsm and WCDMA??
Any ideas?
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i too have lost my HSDPA capabilities after rooting with GB sense 3.0 rom V5 rom..
In the network mode menu i only get the option for gsm and WCDMA??
Any ideas?
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Idea...Don't bring up a very very old thread to ask a question that could have been answered by searching.
I got your 10 char right here
sorry dude, im still searching now but to no avail.. Its 2 AM here and im kinda stuck.. Has someone else esperienced this before? i used the GB sense 3.0i.....version 5.01 which is meant to include the H+?
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i too have lost my HSDPA capabilities after rooting with GB sense 3.0 rom V5 rom..
In the network mode menu i only get the option for gsm and WCDMA??
Any ideas?
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sorry dude, im still searching now but to no avail.. Its 2 AM here and im kinda stuck.. Has someone else esperienced this before? i used the GB sense 3.0i.....version 5.01 which is meant to include the H+?
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LULZ.
you didnt lose your HSDPA 'capabilities'
you lost your precious H+ icon, which is nothing more than an AT&T cover up to try and trick you into thinking their network is better than others.....its an icon. it means nothing
in the menu, you are only supposed to get a GSM/WCDMA option because thats what the phone runs on.
unless you flashed a different RADIO, one that doesnt like your area, then there is nothing wrong and your HSDPA 'capabilities' are still there. go do a speed test, for petes sake....
search, hell, just READ the titles of a few threads and you will get your answer. it HAS been answered a couple hundred times here and there....
psupernak said:
i too have lost my HSDPA capabilities after rooting with GB sense 3.0 rom V5 rom..
In the network mode menu i only get the option for gsm and WCDMA??
Any ideas?
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This Rom has the Ril in it for the Desire HD radio 26.13.04.19. I use this as my daily Rom with this radio and my phone runs better than stock. H+ was added for aesthetic reasons only.
Read the radio sticky about matching ril/radio combinations.
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Hey everyone, I have a Tmo Sensation 4g. I took all the proper steps to root the phone and wiped my stock rom off before flashing the Android Revolution 3.3 HD rom as well as changed to the radio that he recommended. However, it seems that my 4g is not available. Prior to flashing I had 4g nearly everywhere and now I only have 3g. Anyone have the same problem? Is there a fix?
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Hey everyone, I have a Tmo Sensation 4g. I took all the proper steps to root the phone and wiped my stock rom off before flashing the Android Revolution 3.3 HD rom as well as changed to the radio that he recommended. However, it seems that my 4g is not available. Prior to flashing I had 4g nearly everywhere and now I only have 3g. Anyone have the same problem? Is there a fix?
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Should post in Q&A but check the area that talks about RIL's and install the one that is ends in 169. I don't have any problems with my TMUSA sensation with this rom and also check if you get the H that is also a symbol for 4G
Thank you for the assistance, but where do I find this section about RIL's? I cant seem to see that term.
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Thank you for the assistance, but where do I find this section about RIL's? I cant seem to see that term.
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hehe.. This is because T-Mobile lies and puts a 4G icon when you have 3G.
Don't be dumb, this is not development. Your phone is 4G, 4G is 3g but it's just tmobile advertising there 4th generation connection. You get faster download speeds on 4G but on euro build roms they only have 3g. You should get a H logo when you are using data such as downloading, browsing the Internet ect. Which H stands for hsap + which is 4G. Sorry to be so mean it's just a very old topic just should of been posted in q and a not here.
Sent from my Sensation running Leedroid Sensational 2.3
Seriously, the 4g icon and the H icon, are just that.. Icons used to represent your data speed. It is not your actual data speed. If I wanted to I can create a mod that will replace the icon to Edge to represent 4G speeds, but it won't mean I'll be on edge.
anyone know how to get 4G back on this? my rom is only showing H when i was on ICS UXCLF3 Base it was showing 4G
thanks! and yes i check the thread it seems the search function no longer shows under thread tools
I'm not too sure if you can. Since this is an AOSP based rom, you will only see 4G if you are in an LTE area. What rom were you on before when you were seeing 4G? If you are in an LTE area, maybe you need change some of your APN settings?
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H is 4G. LTE is something totally different even though it says 4GLTE
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anyone know how to get 4G back on this? my rom is only showing H when i was on ICS UXCLF3 Base it was showing 4G
thanks! and yes i check the thread it seems the search function no longer shows under thread tools
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Yeah AOSP ROMs just lack the 4G icon, nevertheless it's still 4G.
If you need to confirm for certain, go to Settings > About Phone > Status
When the H icon is up your "Mobile Network Type" should say HSPAP:15 or HSPA+:15 or some such thing, this is 4G (At least on Rogers, it might be slightly different on AT&T, google?)
I know the skyrocket I727 supports LTE. With stock firmware LTE is not a problem. But when I put any custom ROM it no longer goes to LTE. Is this normal or is their a separate download for an LTE radio in these custom ROMS?
This is not common at all. Check that your apn settings are correct. And you have the recommended radio. What rom are you using?
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I have tried slimbean superlite and a few others. My radio is well I can't seem to find that. My baseband version is i727ucll3 I use CWM touch...When I go into mobile networks is says HSPA:10 and that's it.
Radio or modern is the same thing as baseband. I'm not familiar with the slim bean rom so maybe someone who is can give you a better answer. But in Mobil networks, apn on the superlite rom I have three options with one being lte.
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If you're using a rom like PA, CM10, AOKP and probably Slim Bean too.. 4G=LTE.
Do I need to install a new radio? I just ran a speed test and I am getting only about 2 megs down, where before on stock it was like 15 megs down...
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Do I need to install a new radio? I just ran a speed test and I am getting only about 2 megs down, where before on stock it was like 15 megs down...
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You have the LTE Apn, correct?
OK don't laugh, but I have no idea what APN stands for where should I like for that? Where would I get one Bear with me here I'm not a complete NOOB I can do some stuff Thanks for the help too...
Settings, more, Mobil networks, access point names(apn)
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Ok I'm their but it will not let me choose anything except HSPA:10 when I try to choose LTE it reverts back to the HSPA
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Ok I'm their but it will not let me choose anything except HSPA:10 when I try to choose LTE it reverts back to the HSPA
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Can you take a screenshot of this screen.. it'd be easier to see what's up?
Edit: Also, what rom are you on now?
The radio you have is the right one, but I'd re-flash it. See vincoms stickies in the development section. He'll have the radio download and how to do it.
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Do I need to install a new radio? I just ran a speed test and I am getting only about 2 megs down, where before on stock it was like 15 megs down...
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Download the ucll3 radio from vicoms sticky and flash it. You don't need to do any wipes and its not going to muck anything up. It'll take care of your problem.
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Have you run a speed test lately? As said, many custom ROMs don't have an LTE icon; 4G is LTE, H+ is what AT&T considers "4G" in areas without LTE coverage. Running a speed test is an easy way to tell. If you're getting LTE speeds when your phone says 4G, you're on a ROM that doesn't show an LTE icon.
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Download the ucll3 radio from vicoms sticky and flash it. You don't need to do any wipes and its not going to muck anything up. It'll take care of your problem.
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Whoa how did you reply from the past?? On my tapatalk HD app on my note 10.1, it shows your reply date as 12/31/1969. Lol sorry to derail.
Do you have the wrong radio installed? i know that when i had ull3 installed and needed ulck4 it didn't show i had service at all, but it worked still
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Whoa how did you reply from the past?? On my tapatalk HD app on my note 10.1, it shows your reply date as 12/31/1969. Lol sorry to derail.
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I'm a blast from the past!
Sent from the long bus, I got mainstreamed
Have you tried opening dialer up, entering *#*#4636#*#*
Go to phone information, scroll down to a drop down menu. Sometimes it'll say WCDMA preferred. Open it and select LTE and your signal should drop and cone back as LTE. After select LTE/GSM and close it.
Are you sure you were on LTE in the first place? AT&T is kinda misleading with their branding and calls HSPA+ "4G" whereas LTE is "4G LTE".
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Have you run a speed test lately? As said, many custom ROMs don't have an LTE icon; 4G is LTE, H+ is what AT&T considers "4G" in areas without LTE coverage. Running a speed test is an easy way to tell. If you're getting LTE speeds when your phone says 4G, you're on a ROM that doesn't show an LTE icon.
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I try flashing pacman rom and my phone is displaying the 4g logo. In the pacman rom thread, I saw a snap shot with
the lte symbol. Any ideas?