Re: Touch Diamond / TP - General Questions and Answers

Re: Touch Diamond / TP
Hi,
I am planning to get a Touch Diamond or Touch Pro next month (depends on the price ). I had posted a query in the TD section, but did not get any reply . My query is:
In most of the countries both of these sets are 3G enabled, but in India they are not. So if I get one of the two sets mentioned, can I flash any ROM / Radio available in the respective forum, or do I need to take some special precautions.
Thanks.
P.S. Some reply please

Im no expert, but from what I know as long as you flash a GSM rom everything should be fine.

khsbenny said:
Im no expert, but from what I know as long as you flash a GSM rom everything should be fine.
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But radio ? Think that should be different (3G vs 2G)!

3G is related to hardware so not even flashing another ROM and radio will activate it.
Check the frequencies used in India vs. the ones on the devices you want to buy, anyway if you buy it it will work perfectly on EDGE.

orb3000 said:
3G is related to hardware so not even flashing another ROM and radio will activate it.
Check the frequencies used in India vs. the ones on the devices you want to buy, anyway if you buy it it will work perfectly on EDGE.
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LOL, thats what I wanted to know, say I wrongly flashed a 3G radio.. So that may screw up my Non 3G Diamond ?

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Any way to enable 3G on the Touch Pro from India?

Hi everyone,
This is my first post here after joining this forum. I recently bought an HTC Touch Pro in India after alot of review. Sadly after buying the unit I realized HTC decided not to include 3G in the Indian version. I bought it blindly thinking they wouldn't be any discrepancy in the TP review units on sites such as gsmarena and infosync world but the TP box proved otherwise.
Now I study in the US and was hoping to use the 3G connection offered by T-mobile otherwise i'll resort to EDGE. My question is whether or not my TP actually has a 3G chipset which is disabled by HTC and can be enabled somehow or have they not installed one?
Thank you
3g
you could unlock the spl and install a custom rom (or a htc WWE stock rom). After installing the custom rom if ur phone has the 3g chip it will start working. Mostly the network and 3g are part of a single chip. So most probably 3g will start working after installing the custom rom. good luck.
Hey! Thanks for the quick reply!
I'm new to flashing ROM and the other procedures you have mentioned. Is it possible for you to direct me a bit more as to exactly how am I supposed to go about what you said?
Thank you
psycho89 said:
Hey! Thanks for the quick reply!
I'm new to flashing ROM and the other procedures you have mentioned. Is it possible for you to direct me a bit more as to exactly how am I supposed to go about what you said?
Thank you
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Do you have a HTC Touch Pro aka Raphael that comes from Europe? If so, no 3G as of yet. Actually, right now only way you'll get 3G is with the Fuze.
I ask because I am not familiar with India's phone infrastructure, providers,etc
Now some background of what's going on so you'll know if and why you won't have 3G:
HTC touch pro specs
Notice that HSDPA is only available on these frequencies:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
For AT&T 3G frequencies are 850/1900 and for T-Mobile, I read they use 1700 and 2100mhz but I suggest you look around a bit more.
Finally, here'es THE thread about enabling the missing bands(frequencies) on the Touch Pro, some people are still working on it, progress has been made, but so far, no 3G in North America.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420865
Ps.: Flashing to a new ROM is still a good idea, some of the ROMs in this forum will give a vert healthy performance boost to your phone!
I suggest you read this forum for a few days and especially this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
and get comfortable with the concepts, it's really easy and simple once you understand the basics.
Enjoy!
Hi labbby!
Thanks for the reply and info. I'm not sure if my TP came from europe not or. Just says tri-band on mine. Apart from that I'll look into flashing my ROM.
Thanks again!

Can I get this to work on T-Mobile?

Hello guys, I just bought a Fuze on ebay, locked to AT&T of course. But I have T-Mobile. I have already payed the person who will unlock it for me. But if I then install a new ROM will it still work with T-Mo? and what is a Radio? I saw it has been mentioned here quite often.
Sorry for being a noob
Ali_Shaikh said:
Hello guys, I just bought a Fuze on ebay, locked to AT&T of course. But I have T-Mobile. I have already payed the person who will unlock it for me. But if I then install a new ROM will it still work with T-Mo? and what is a Radio? I saw it has been mentioned here quite often.
Sorry for being a noob
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go there :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
about Radio most roms comes with one installed already i suggest to get use to flashing new roms and from there you will understand more about Radio.Good luck.
Yes
Yes U can I flash several times a week using a T-mobile USA phone plan and so far Radio wise I get the best performance from 1.12.25.19. The latest one isn't bad either it depends where you live and some other stuff I can't really explain. I stay in Houston area incase that helps. Radio as to do with how your phone handles signal like gps etc. I suggest you read allot of threads to understand more things, be confident with what your doing before you flash
Hi Ali
As suggested by gguy- the radio is the part of the phone that communicates with the mobile phone network (and gps satelites). It is not a direct reference to the FM radio function.
Try to find a new radio based upon recommendations from others on the same carrier as you.
The quality of signal strength varies from one radio to another, what suits me might not suit you. It is worth noting that the radio will also have an impact on battery life as a weak signal will drain the battery faster.
On a locked phone you will only be able to use rapheal radios, if you unlock your phone you will be free to use the radios from some other phones.
Updating the radio leaves the rom as is and thus will not delete your files.

blackstone 3g network problem

Hi please can someone help,suggest what to do with my touch hd (t8282) it does not matter whith network i chose phone is always connected to edge network (at&t) and is very slow. Please help maybe change radio? I know how change rom. Pls,pls
US 3G is not supported by T8282. Period.
ROMAN KOERBER said:
Hi please can someone help,suggest what to do with my touch hd (t8282) it does not matter whith network i chose phone is always connected to edge network (at&t) and is very slow. Please help maybe change radio? I know how change rom. Pls,pls
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The Touch HD is not compatible with any US 3G networks. If you are going to use it in the US , the best you are going to get is 2G ( Edge ).
By the way Welcome to the forum, unfortunately many people ( like you ) find this forum " after " they have bought their phone.
denco7 said:
the touch hd is not compatible with any us 3g networks. If you are going to use it in the us , the best you are going to get is 2g ( edge ).
By the way welcome to the forum, unfortunately many people ( like you ) find this forum " after " they have bought their phone.
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thank u so much roman for answer

How to unlock 3g on a quadband Raphael.

I'm In India,
I got a Raphael this particular one :HTC Raphael
It has a Qualcomm® MSM7206A™ 528 MHz
with the latest stock radio : 1.13.25.24
And a custom ROM.
Now my problem is at the time i bought this there was no 3g in my country.
Now a few carriers provide 3g.
I can't access 3g.
I want to know if there is any way to access 3g by installing a PROGRAM or a ROM or a particular RADIO.
P.S: it doesn't matter if i can't make video calls(as no secondary camera) i would just like to access 3g network.
Please help needed and much appreciated.
PLEASE HELP
Thank you so much.
please help needed ( ihave searched all the fourms but haven't really found a solution, i have PMed many developers they don't respond. Please don't close this thread--> to mods. This is really important.
the raphael can handle 3g no problem. it's up to your service provider to give you access to 3g...
Try just going into the Comm Manager and enabling 3G and see if it connects.
mputtr said:
the raphael can handle 3g no problem. it's up to your service provider to give you access to 3g...
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rmcknight said:
Try just going into the Comm Manager and enabling 3G and see if it connects.
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My raphael is not unlocked or maybe doesn't have the chipset to recieve the 3g network please see my link !
I'm asking if there is any way that i can unlock the settings !
It is nothing to do with operator or comm manage.
Please understand the problem.
The problem is the chipset/processor not the Software or the operator
anyways thanks
PLease post if any solution...
When i first bought my TP, i used my old sim card (from my BA) which was only supporting 2G..so i had to go to the operator to ask for a new sim card that support 3G! once i got the new sim card i could get into 3G no problme....
check your sim card if it support 3G
also check the network setting on your phone (start->setting->phone->band and then make sure to select auto or WCDMA)
hope this helps
moh980 said:
When i first bought my TP, i used my old sim card (from my BA) which was only supporting 2G..so i had to go to the operator to ask for a new sim card that support 3G! once i got the new sim card i could get into 3G no problme....
check your sim card if it support 3G
also check the network setting on your phone (start->setting->phone->band and then make sure to select auto or WCDMA)
hope this helps
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Hey GUys please GO TO THE LINK I PROVIDED In the first post all this is not the problem the probles is the 706A processor provided by HTC which doesn't allow the phone to recieve signals beyond the 1900 band and the 3g signals are at 2100 band range !
And most of the Raphaels which have 3g have the 701A processors not 706A
I was just wondering if some senior member / chef / developer / a friend could help me.......
And tell if flashing a radio are a program will help this situation
Trust me it has nothing to do with operator, SIM , Comm manager !
Thank you all !
Please help if anyone....
actually... 3g operates not only on the 2100 band but also the 1900 and 850 band. It is up to your provider to allow you to use 3g. When I went back to thailand, the phone company I used "locked" 3g and my phone would complain that i could not connect to 3g.. until I called the phone company and I went through a series of instructions that "unlocks" my number to allow 3g.
You need to do a little more research on your question before you go ahead and tell everyone they're wrong. Trust me, providers can prevent you from using 3g capabilities.
The radio only helps transmit the information. some work better than other, but they do not prevent you from using a specific radio. Processors also do not matter since it is more related to the processing speed of the phone, not its ability to handle networks.
check this link to see that the touchpro is indeed, 3g ready, all versions of it that I know of. http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
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actually... 3g operates not only on the 2100 band but also the 1900 and 850 band. It is up to your provider to allow you to use 3g. When I went back to thailand, the phone company I used "locked" 3g and my phone would complain that i could not connect to 3g.. until I called the phone company and I went through a series of instructions that "unlocks" my number to allow 3g.
You need to do a little more research on your question before you go ahead and tell everyone they're wrong. Trust me, providers can prevent you from using 3g capabilities.
The radio only helps transmit the information. some work better than other, but they do not prevent you from using a specific radio. Processors also do not matter since it is more related to the processing speed of the phone, not its ability to handle networks.
check this link to see that the touchpro is indeed, 3g ready, all versions of it that I know of. http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
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Sir with all due respect and without being rude to you i have to tell you to READ THIS LINK BEFORE POSTING :HERE
And please note the network part and the part which says the processor :Qualcomm® MSM7206A™ 528 MHz :this processor is the processor which does not allow me to recieve the 3g signals.
And in my country my operator does not have 3g yet but would launch in december. I traveled to 3 countries in last 1 year and tried to connect 3g (with stock radio and rom and failed)
I respect you but i have to say you are "Wrong"
thank you
and please refer to the link.
And i have done all the research i could possibly do before posting a thread.
Thank you ( no offense meant)
ok. you are right. In this case, there is nothing you can do since it is the chipset itself. It is not meant to do 3g and it probably will not do 3g unless you go in and try to mess with the bios itself. That would most probably brick your phone. So to answer your question, no it's not possible unless you want to risk bricking your phone.
the only thing i can say is that it sucks that you bought the version that couldn't do 3g, but there is probably not a way to change that.
It looks like it can not do 3G at all. Interesting, I didn't know they made Raphaels without 3G. It probably doesn't have any hardware to do 3G, just like the european ones don't have the hardware to do 850MHz and 1900MHz 3G used in the U.S.
petard said:
It looks like it can not do 3G at all. Interesting, I didn't know they made Raphaels without 3G. It probably doesn't have any hardware to do 3G, just like the european ones don't have the hardware to do 850MHz and 1900MHz 3G used in the U.S.
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yeah. I thought all touch pro phones are 3g enabled. Well I would have to admittedly say that it really reeks to have a 3g capable phone forced at only 2g through hardware limitations.
guys 3g can be possible
if ppl here check this prior link http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
it will show that the release date is june 08 so it means that the company at that time had 3g capabilities in the tp well i am from india mumbai and am using mtnl as a network provider well i had 3g enabled on my sim card 3g did not work on my tp but it did work on my friends nokia phone so the question of sim card not supporting 3g does not arise also asfaik it has something to do with the radio especially the protocol version which should end in something that is not 'G' so i want ppl who are reading this to post some of their radio of links which points to a radio ...
franci1s said:
if ppl here check this prior link http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
it will show that the release date is june 08 so it means that the company at that time had 3g capabilities in the tp well i am from india mumbai and am using mtnl as a network provider well i had 3g enabled on my sim card 3g did not work on my tp but it did work on my friends nokia phone so the question of sim card not supporting 3g does not arise also asfaik it has something to do with the radio especially the protocol version which should end in something that is not 'G' so i want ppl who are reading this to post some of their radio of links which points to a radio ...
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Hey do you also have the 706A procesoor ??
And guys it sucks that HTC dared to do this cheapstake thing !
Anyways my bad luck I'll change now only after 2 years so no 3g......
But on the optimistic side i love every other part of the phone specially the way flashing can be done like no other phone !
Its great !
3g would have been an icing on the cake though !
but HTC sucks with that !
Thank you all...
franci1s said:
if ppl here check this prior link http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
it will show that the release date is june 08 so it means that the company at that time had 3g capabilities in the tp well i am from india mumbai and am using mtnl as a network provider well i had 3g enabled on my sim card 3g did not work on my tp but it did work on my friends nokia phone so the question of sim card not supporting 3g does not arise also asfaik it has something to do with the radio especially the protocol version which should end in something that is not 'G' so i want ppl who are reading this to post some of their radio of links which points to a radio ...
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sorry francis. As I have realized later in this thread, based on the OP's phone spec, his/her phone is quite literally incapable of doing 3g because it does not have the hardware capability to utilize it.
sim cards, as far as i know does not do anything with which band you can use, it simply holds information like contact list and your phone number ID. Radio also does not matter as i have stated in an earlier post. Radios are like channels on a wireless router, it can send the same signals, it just depends on which channel works best with the majority of computers in the place.
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sorry francis. As I have realized later in this thread, based on the OP's phone spec, his/her phone is quite literally incapable of doing 3g because it does not have the hardware capability to utilize it.
sim cards, as far as i know does not do anything with which band you can use, it simply holds information like contact list and your phone number ID. Radio also does not matter as i have stated in an earlier post. Radios are like channels on a wireless router, it can send the same signals, it just depends on which channel works best with the majority of computers in the place.
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just for your information even Francis has the same set of TP with the same processor (706A) and hence he has the smae problem/ bad luck !
And we both need the same solution ( IF ANY AT ALL.........)
Thank you.
yes i realized that I misread the post and misunderstood your original problem. But in this case it seems like a hardware limitation. something you can't solve with software changes. Although I'll have to admit that there is a chance that a bios flash might do something. but you will probably run a massive risk of bricking your phone permanently and I highly doubt it is worth the risk.
Hopefully one of the mods here would know if there is a way around this. good luck
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mputtr said:
yes i realized that i misread the post and misunderstood your original problem. But in this case it seems like a hardware limitation. Something you can't solve with software changes. Although i'll have to admit that there is a chance that a bios flash might do something. But you will probably run a massive risk of bricking your phone permanently and i highly doubt it is worth the risk.
Hopefully one of the mods here would know if there is a way around this. Good luck
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shoutout to mods please help (but not at the cost of a brick)​
MOD EDIT: yelling will not help you overcome a device hardware limitation.
closed at OP request.

[Q] HTC ONE SV (k2_u) without LTE?

Hi guys
I recently bought a generic unbranded HTC ONE SV from a German website, as I was looking for an LTE-enabled phone that didn't have a screen big as a flatscreen TV.
I have had the phone now for a couple of weeks and I am overall happy with it. The only problem is that it does not seem to get any LTE action. My operator (Tele2 Sweden) assures me my sim card is enabled for 4G and I live in the center of a city with excellent 4G coverage. Yet, my phone shows an H at best (haven't actually ever seen even an H+).
Digging around this and other forums, I found a few indications that my ONE SV version K2_U (model id PL8013000) might actually not have support for LTE after all.
It seems also all ROM updates currently available are for the K2_UL model, including the one for JB (I have tried to flash these to my device after unlocking/rooting/s-offing it, but never actually managed to succeed with it, while I can flash and reflash the stock ROM for the k2_u version)
TBH I am quite confused: all HTC websites and reviews refer to the ONE SV as an LTE enabled phone, and I cannot find any official reference to the fact that there might be a version of this phone without LTE... So I wonder if maybe I am doing something wrong, or if maybe there is a software lock that has disabled LTE on my phone and that I can fix.
Or have I simply been screwed?
With the Easter holidays I'll have to wait until Tuesday to be able to call HTC... so if in the meantime anybody has any idea I would really appreciate it
There seems to be a lot of K2_U, non-LTE, in the US. You can have a look on the One SV root thread you'll find some.
In fact, in germany the LTE version is ONLY sold by operators (O2, Vodafone, Telekom).
All others come without LTE.
old.splatterhand said:
In fact, in germany the LTE version is ONLY sold by operators (O2, Vodafone, Telekom).
All others come without LTE.
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You'd think HTC would mention that on their website though... I am not upset about them selling a non-LTE version of the phone, I am outraged by the fact that they don't bother informing consumers that a phone advertised as LTE also happens to have a non-LTE version... I have also contacted them trough the htc.com website, but they did not bother to answer either.
If I had more time to waste on this I'd probably complain with the German consumer protection authorities, but TBH I have learned my lesson and this is the last HTC I buy
Thanks for your replies guys!
What does LTE means? I currently have old.splatterhands non-LTE stock rom installed for my HTC One SV. But for unknown reason, WiFi and radio connection are very weak.
LTE is fast, mobile internet.
old.splatterhand said:
LTE is fast, mobile internet.
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How do I know if I have a LTE k2u device?
esp7 said:
How do I know if I have a LTE k2u device?
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You have the stock back/battery cover on the phone?
When you have a phone with LTE, it should be written on the backcover (4G LTE, or something like that).
If there is only written beatsaudio, you have non-LTE.
Thanks - non-LTE however
esp7 said:
Thanks - non-LTE however
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Seems you are rooted, so you can try this: Saturn III

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