Hi there, I tired to issue my problem in some other threads, but without any response so far - probably my problem is more specific.
I was using AHEN 6.5-R6i Rom for few weeks when some time after charging my Raphael was not powering up at all. I presume no relation between Ahen rom and the problem (as described further).
I bought new battery and it occurred that probably power charging circuit was damaged, because it newer completed charging, the device was always very hot and discharged in few minutes even when turned off (until completely drained out). What is more the USB connector works only for charging (maybe damaged data connection circuit?).
As a result, before returning the device for guarantee servicing I wanted to downgrade all the roms to the original ones. As advised I started with Radio and OS stocks, but after bootloader update (from SD card, cause my USB doesn't work) I got only "upgrading ROM code error" and the device tries to load some ROM, but putting any on SD card doesn't work anymore.
Any suggestions how to cope with this situation?
If you need help please provide us with important information. So fill your signature first. Mainly if you have hard-spl or if you bought olipro cid unlock and what exactly you have done until now. Also wether your device is CDMA or GSM? If it is GSM than you have to first restore Stock Radio first, after that if you cid-unlocked the phone you have to relock it again. Than remove hard-spl and install stock ROM. But if your USB is broken, i think there is no chance to remove Hard-SPL neither to restore to stock. Remember that when you are in a bootloader and you do not see that the device is connected to activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center it does not mean that it is not connected. Just check you hear the sound indicating that something is connected to usb in vista or windows xp.
If you need help please provide us with important information. So fill your signature first.
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Mainly if you have hard-spl or if you bought olipro cid unlock and what exactly you have done until now.
=> chnged SPL to OliNex, OS to AHEN 6.5-R6i, Radio to version required by AHEN rom
Also wether your device is CDMA or GSM? If it is GSM than you have to first restore Stock Radio first, after that if you cid-unlocked the phone you have to relock it again. Than remove hard-spl and install stock ROM.
=> I retracked the changes as indicated changing both radio and OS to original ones, but had just problem at last step = flashing oryginal SPL (because I made it from SD).
But if your USB is broken, i think there is no chance to remove Hard-SPL neither to restore to stock.
=> Hmm, anyway right now I am stack because bootloader is "loading ..." every time I reboot the device.
Remember that when you are in a bootloader and you do not see that the device is connected to activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center it does not mean that it is not connected. Just check you hear the sound indicating that something is connected to usb in vista or windows xp.
=> I tried to use some terminals to see if I can execute commands directly or see any output, but I haven't even succeeded to open the port. Maybe I am doing something wrong - I give it a try once more tonight.
So what version of SPL is bootloader showing? If it's showing something like 1.90.0000, you are in bootloader and USB circuit is not damaged you should be able to normaly flash ROM from your provider from bootloader. So download the ROM from your T-Mobile it should be some exe. When you see bootloader tricolor screen coonect usb cable from Touch Pro to computer and run the exe soubor with your desired ROM. It should work if everything is OK!
If your device is showing 1.90.OliNex, than i cant help you because i do not know how to remove Hard-SPL from bootloader, maybe it is possible, but for more experienced tech guy, who i am not
PS: Hope you did not bricked your device because Hard-SPL and removing Hard-SPL is all done with cable, you cant do it from SD, and you cant flash original SPL before removing Hard-SPL!
hmm, it seems that I have managed to flash, at least partly, the original SPL from SD card, cause it shows version 1.90.0000. Partly, because it states that the previalus rom update was not successful :-(
In this state (in boot loader mode) I can't even charge battery so I have to do it externaly. Connecting to PC doesn't work (PC USB and cable are fine). The only thing that change after connecting to USB charger is that device gets hot ...
i am sorry to say, that you probably bricked your device... Maybe someone could help with more advanced hardware, software support, but i am not the right person...You can try to put your device to service and hope they will not recognize what have you done, but it depends on your stock SPL version. I got czech T-Mobile and stock SPL was 1.69.0000, so maybe yours was the same...
Next time please read more carefully, search or ask someone if you are not still sure, things about flashing SPLs are very dangerous if they are not done carefully...
Can anyone help this guy? He tried to flash original SPL over Hard-SPL, and therefore it is not looking very well for him to unbrick his Touch Pro...
So ... I got it from the service and they changed the motherboard and the battery, no charges
It was brickes, because of cherging circuit issue.
Unfortunatley I send it back to service, because the loudspeaker is not working ...
Actually I am the same exact boat as the OP. My phone stopped charging and its because the USB port is broken. I need to change the phone back to stock but if its not charging its probably not going to get a connection to the computer either. I read that on at least the Hermes it was possible to flash from the SD card. This is not possible for the TP? Thanks
riotburn said:
Actually I am the same exact boat as the OP. My phone stopped charging and its because the USB port is broken. I need to change the phone back to stock but if its not charging its probably not going to get a connection to the computer either. I read that on at least the Hermes it was possible to flash from the SD card. This is not possible for the TP? Thanks
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You can flash the ROM, radio, splash screens etc etc from SD card - you will then have to send the phone back with hard spl still installed as you need a usb connection to remove it.
Dont assume you cant get a usb data conenction though - try it and see!
I did try the connection, didn't work. How do you flash from the sdcard? I just dont want to brick it.
Please read this thread on how to flash (including how to flash from SD card).
Again, (assuming you have the correct hard SPL currently flashed) you can flash a ROM, radio & splash screens etc to your phone from the SD card (one at a time) but as previously said you need a USB connection to flash hard spl (dont attempt it from the sd card).
So, my Raphael arrived from service after the second repair (loudspeaker not working) - it seems all works this time
By the way, that is correct that a USB connection is necessary to flash hard spl, but .. I was desperate because the USB was broken, so I tried it from SD. The effect was good enough for the service - the Hard-SPL seemed to be reverted to oryginal one, however the booting was stacked at loading the ROM
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My phone is die because turn off PC when uprom ?
It's not turn on , not signin bootloader... Hepl me
No bootloader = gone
Someone tried to pry open the phone to JTAG the ROM but they reported back that a metal cover is protecting the ROM chip from being JTAG
So conclusion, sell your phone for scrap
thank u so much but i tried open my phone but haven't got Rom chip (Flash chip ?) replace it. i'm live in Vietnam. JTAG is what??? i don't known.
blackpuck said:
thank u so much but i tried open my phone but haven't got Rom chip (Flash chip ?) replace it. i'm live in Vietnam. JTAG is what??? i don't known.
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If you can't get to the bootloader, your phone is dead. Give it up.
noone can help me ????
I don't think anyone can help. Since there is no bootloader, you cannot do anything. Plus you wrote that you have SDA2, which is not HTC Tornado.
I assume you also can't perform a hard reset?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JTAG
JTAG is a (physical) connection to the ROM chip to program it. You need special equipment and expertise to reprogram your phone this way, but if it's dead otherwise why not give it a try and open your phone .
Be sure to make some pictures and post them here .
Or go back to the store, try to look really innocent and have the manufacturer fix it for you (this probably won't work btw).
Someone tried to JTAG but the ROM chip is blocked by a metal cover
Hi... I have 2 sda tornado phone but I want to do one
hi...
please I would like remplace a rom (os) chip because I have a brick (white screen) tonado and another that is broken the mainboard..
bur If I know which is the chip flash I could be remplace and have one good phone..
thanks...
I have a silly question.... When you place connect your phone to your pc... Does windows do that sound as recognizing that something was connected? If so... Try to flash the T-Mobile SDA Ship ROM. You don't need to be on bootloader to flash a ship rom, as long as windows recognizes that something is there. The "enter boot loader" in the Rom Flashing will take care of that. At least.... it happend once for me when I was sure I had bricked my SDAII. Also, My SDAII does say its a Tornado. However, I have read many say that SDAII's are not tornados. Confused.
hi... the problem is that when I connect to pc, the pc can´t recognize... can´t acces to bootloader just I have a white screen.... I´ve tried with activesync, mtty, TeraTermPro but nothing....... first I upgrade to windows 6.1 perfect english and all perfect (I unloked the phone, I follow all steps to upgrade the phone and works) but the problem is the when I tried to downgrade to t-mobile official rom....
When you place connect your phone to your pc... Does windows do that sound as recognizing that something was connected? NO
If so... Try to flash the T-Mobile SDA Ship ROM. You don't need to be on bootloader to flash a ship rom, as long as windows recognizes that something is there. i CAN´T ... DON´T RECONIZE
The "enter boot loader" in the Rom Flashing will take care of that. At least.... it happend once for me when I was sure I had bricked my SDAII. Also, My SDAII does say its a Tornado. However, I have read many say that SDAII's are not tornados. JUST WHITE SCREEN AND CAN´T ACCESS TO BOOTLOADER O REBOT THE PHONE... I THINK THAT I damage THE SLP (BOOTLOADER)
Confused.
I have flashed dutty's v4 rom and i want to change it
the problem is that when i try to do so i run
KaiserCustomRUU
my device goes into the 4 stripes screen it says usb
but then the program in the pc says error 260 and doesn't load the new rom
my phone still works as dutty's rom is still in but what can i do to change it?
Thank you and i have searched a lot but could not find a solution
thimiost said:
I have flashed dutty's v4 rom and i want to change it
the problem is that when i try to do so i run
KaiserCustomRUU
my device goes into the 4 stripes screen it says usb
but then the program in the pc says error 260 and doesn't load the new rom
my phone still works as dutty's rom is still in but what can i do to change it?
Thank you and i have searched a lot but could not find a solution
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OK lets start at the basics...... In bootloader mode (tricolour screen) what text does it say at top of the screen?
Have you DEFINITELY Sim Unlocked and CID unlocked?
it says these things
kais130 mfg
spl-10.0.Olipof
cpld-8
Ok that confirms you have the capability to flash. I have seen in the past some people have managed to flash one time only using jumpspl but then their device reverts back to original bootloader...I was one of those people
Next question then...Can you boot the phone normally and gain an activsync connection to it?
yes
i can use my phone normally
only i cannot put a new image in
Are you using Xp or vista? If using vista it may be worth trying a reboot... sometimes it goes doolally with its usb ports. If you cannot see the phone through WMDC or activsync after a reboot it is worth going to SYSTEM (on your PC) viewing non present devices through device manager,( Drop to Command prompt and type... Devmgmt.msc set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1 ) removing the relevant phone connection and then re attaching it so that windows re detects it.
If you can get a connection via actvisync (win XP) or WMDC (vista) to your phone then all should be ok. Uncheck the activesync/ WMDC "allow USB connections" and try again.
If this still doesn't work then search around here for MTTY. That will allow you to specify the usb connection to the device...amongst other things.
thank you for your time
i have win xp and activesync works nice
the problem is when bootloader starts
When you attempt flashing, do you do it from the device already booted into windows mobile or direct from bootloader?
Which ever way you have tried it, try ther other way.
Not teaching you to suck eggs but just in case you dont know.... To get direct to bootloader hold camera button and soft reset with stylus whilst holding camera button down and the tri colour screen should appear.
With device at the bootloader screen, Can you confirm that you hear the windows "noise" when you unplug and re plug the USB cable just as you would when plugging and unplugging the device normally. This will determine if the device has connection at the bootlaoder stage.
why not just flash using the microsd card. its much easier that way
yes it has connection
the thing is that i have already flashed as i told before with dutty's v4
now i can't
Usually Error 260's are related to the USB port functionality ( Port can't be opened etc).
The SD card method or MTTY should sort you out.
thx again
hope it works
at least the sd trick worked!!!!
now running on winmob 6.1
Glad to hear you sorted it.
almost
i cannot use my sd card cause i have to have it formated in order to put a new rom in
thimiost said:
i cannot use my sd card cause i have to have it formated in order to put a new rom in
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disable USB connections in ActiveSync and flash.
This Link gives a list of eror codes for Hermes, and probably the same for Kaiser.
It's likely that you have a USB port error - maybe try changing the USB port you use or a different sync cable - or just stick to SD card flashing in the future - I keep an old 1gig card for this.
this IS the problem...i cannot flash...
it stays in the bootloader with the message i wrote
thimiost said:
it stays in the bootloader with the message i wrote
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It happen to me before hardspl again fix it, not sure why
you mean use the sd method to do hardspl again?
OHHH lord dutty we need your new rom
Hello XDA Nice Team !
By mistaken i wrote some file to my bootloader in my I-Mate Jam ..
That was after using the bad ROM : 2.03
it's the worst cooked version i saw !
Now my bootloader mode is working .. but no way to connect to PC with USB port ..
My computer does not recognize my Magican when plugged in bootloader mode anymore!
Bootloader Ver: 1.0
is there any way to fix or upgrade or restore original bootloader
Now i cant upgrade or downgrade my magican by any method
Noway to use successful connection with any roomupdate utility
Please help me to fix or restore my bootloader!
Thanks to any one read or replay or try to help or help me to resolve my problem
XDA lover
i'm sorry that happened mate...
i've had success with flash-from-bootloader attempts before, both on my Magician, when i accidentally flashed off of Vista and it'd enter the bootloader every week or on a reset using the reset hole, and also on my Wizard when i ignored warnings from WM5torage and it'd only enter the bootloader
what precisely happens when you connect to the PC, allow USB connections in AS/MDC, and let the phone enter bootloader however it does? i can just flash a rom from there, but i won't (iirc) get any reports of as recognising the device...
My experience:
1- when i plug my sd card into my jam .. usb not recognized in bootloader mood !!
2- when i use puty or roomupdate it reaches to USB> then when i type any command it does not respond !
3- i could do something .. i let my phone bootup and this i-mate logon screen stays 4ever .. i connected my ppc to pc and i could explre my imate by activesync ...
i could reach something .. when i explore my phone and remove everything from startup folder .. my phone boots .. and i can see start botton .. no touch alignment comes .. and everything works .. but.. screen is virtually reversed .. i can see the OK botton but i must click on the facing area and it be clicked ..
i think i executed some wrong hard SPL to my phone ant that happened >
is there any way to resolve this problem?
is there any way to erase flash on my I-Mate Jam????
is there any way flash my phone?
i also have prepaid JAFWM with pkey and USB cable .. no BOX ..
Help please!
that's messed up... howsabout flashing it at the point when the phone boots up? if there's an AS connection there, then it may work... i'd flash to an official rom though
Same problem , PLS Help !!!
Thx for help
You should check USB connection I think...
Try plug your battery out of device and wait a moment (e.g.10 minutes) and try again,sometimes it will be fine when you did this.
If your magician isn't detected at ALL by your PC when plugging the USB cable into it (i mean, no new hardware; no unrecognized hardware; nothing is detected in your PC when you plug the USB cable), and unless you had previously made a SD backup of your entire Flash with this procedure ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianSDflash ), then your only option will be to build a JTAG diag cable:
Here are some general directions / ideias:
Magician JTAG pinout: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianJTAG
How to build/run the JTAG: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DeadBoot
Photos : http://www.cf-box.com/htm_data/55/0912/1679.html
Some interesting stuff for debugging problems: http://pda2u.ru/ptopic205.html
For sure cotulla has one built so to test his ROMs + bootloader - maybe he will be willing to give you some directions if you run into problems, and above all, give you a prepared .nb0 (with the bootloader file) for your magician, which i do not know if there's one out there, extracted from an original ROM.
Anyway, you can always try and do it for yourself using itsme utilities. Follow this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=218643
Regards
Keeper,you're awesome! I'm searching for JTAG,too
xiaojin1985 said:
You should check USB connection I think...
Try plug your battery out of device and wait a moment (e.g.10 minutes) and try again,sometimes it will be fine when you did this.
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Dear xiaojin1985 ,
Thx for your help, But unfortunately i tried your solution but it dosnt work !
Dear Keeper,
Thanks too for your help,
and i think the solution for my problem is one of the solutions you says ( How to build/run the JTAG: ) ,
but the pictures is not available anymore , so pls can you get the pictures ?
All the pictures are in here:
http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc23/alex_beda/ and in attachment there's a .mth file with all the pics built-in.
Don't take it wrong what i'm about to say, but in all honesty if you can't figure this out yourself (digging up the internet for the missing pics), i would suggest that you shouldn't try this, since this ain't easy at ALL...
Just to give you some ideias, it will require you to adapt your magician test point signals (TDO;TDI; nRESET; etc,)seen on the magician pinout pic to what is said; solder very thin wires (best done with a small hot air tip); fixate the small dip switch (micro switch) to be always on; keep the USB connected...idk... plus alot of other small details which ain't easy to accomplish.
Personally i haven't tried this yet but for sure it would work
If you decide to go ahead, please post some results!
Connection error solution
this is my problem
hi all. A friend of mine gave me an S100, and after i played for a few days with it, i decided to update it's rom. A "country error" problem appeared,cause i have the greek version, so i ran MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe which completed (as showed 100% process). My (new) problem is that i cannot update anymore. Every time i enter boot menu, i ran the upgrade
(HTCMAG_ROM_WWE_O2.rar) following all the steps normally. When the device resets (so the upgrade is going to start), it's re-reseting again and showing ERROR 101 connection error. Any ideas?
Qtek Greek version
R 1.12.00
G 1337.42
D 1.12.00 WWE
P.S. apart the problem everything is function properly
and the solution
hard reset
plug usb (uncheck allow usb connection in activesynch )
run MaUpgradeUt.exe radio_1.11_greek but idont reset the qtek in first screen
and upgrate downgrate start all ok
reset
welcome screen
hard reset
plug usb (uncheck allow usb connection in activesynch )
run MaUpgradeUt.exe MagicianRadio_1.12.10. uk but idont reset the qteki n first screen
upgrate from radio 1.11 to 1.12.10
reset
welcome screen
hard reset
plug usb (uncheck allow usb connection in activesynch )
run HTCMAG_ROM_WWE_O5_251209
everything is ok my magisian run the new Rom
here..........................
Hello,
I'm realy going insane at the moment.
I try to degrade the SPL from SPL-1.0.OliPof (KAIS130 MFG, CPLD-8 <- whatever that means) back to the orginal one.
What I'm doing is:
1. connect the kaiser without sd card and sim card via active sync to my XP PC.
2. start the bootloader via button and stylus.
3. unplug the usb cable and replug
4. starting the KaiserCustomRUU tool.
the problem is that I always get an error 260 which means that there is no connection between pc and pda. by the way I already tried every possible solution mentioned in this forum.
What i figured out is that after I repluged the usb cable the computer detects the pda but is not able to install a suitable driver. So I have an unrecognized usb device in the device manager. I guess this is the issue but does anybody know how to solve it. I mean which driver is needed in this state?
can anybody help?
greetings,
macx
I must be misreading your post... you don't mention running JumpSPL/SSPL. If you're not doing that, then there's you freebie for the year, and also the solution to your problem.
sorry, my fault.
Point 2 is running SSPL of course. Version 1 leads to a white screen and the other two versions bring up the bootloader.
In the meanwhile I tried so many things that I was a bit confused when I wrote this post.
nevertheless I don't know what to do anymore to make it work.
I searched all over google and other fourms here, but no luck, here is the problem:
I wanted to flash an Arabic ROM on my HTC vox (s710) , I flashed first the Vox's ROM (RUU_Vox_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.1_4.1.13.54_03.10.90_Ship)
and it worked great, but found out that there was still no Arabic support.
I got this ROM (HTC_Excalibur_ARA_1.15.415.11_4.1.13.41_02.88.90),
as I thought that the device was already unlocked, it would accept any ROM for any device, turns out it doesnt.
Just before the flashing is over, it gave me an ERROR : FLASH WRITE, and my HTC just went dead in a heart beat.
Know the phone has that Green LED at the top on, as long as its connected to the laptop or to the battery, but just wont boot - DEAD
(P.S -- When connected to the laptop, something activates but still cant access the phone)
I tried booting in safe mode by pressing and holding the camera button and connect USB cable, but doesnt work, tried couple other stuff but still no difference. Please I need help , is there something I can do ? is it dead forever or can it be still fixed
Sad - you flashed an Excalibur ROM on a VOX - so the Vox is plain dead
While the devices are quite similar (same chipset and even same NAND storage) it still seems that the bootloader is not identical and this is killing any further access.
In theory you could flash via a JTAG physical connection but this is for true HW freaks and you also need special HW + SW to do so.
Bypassing the CID check (with USPL or JumpSPL) also kills all sanity checks in the bootloader (SPL) that prevents cross-device flashing (and a dead device after doing so).
tobbbie said:
Sad - you flashed an Excalibur ROM on a VOX - so the Vox is plain dead
While the devices are quite similar (same chipset and even same NAND storage) it still seems that the bootloader is not identical and this is killing any further access.
In theory you could flash via a JTAG physical connection but this is for true HW freaks and you also need special HW + SW to do so.
Bypassing the CID check (with USPL or JumpSPL) also kills all sanity checks in the bootloader (SPL) that prevents cross-device flashing (and a dead device after doing so).
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So I am doomed, or is there another easy way to reflash it or something.. If i took it to the nearest HTC center, would they be able to do something or not ?
There are ways to reflash, but all rely on the SPL being OK. Sadly this is what you killed with the wrong ROM - so there is no hope. I believe that service centers just use the same USB connected SW upgrade via SPL - there is no reason to have any dedicated HW devices as normal users cannot kill their device the way you did.
A glimpse of hope could be that only the USB and LCD access is wrong and the SPL would work otherwise - not very probable though. Is the device still charging? Do you see orange and green light when connecting to charger?
If so then you may search for the upgrade via the "Gold Card" method. This is a specially prepared (some key in the bootsector of the card) sd card which has the .nbh file stored in root directory. Boot + SW upload would follow a special sequence then which you would have to execute "blind" as LCD does not work. Again: I doubt the SPL is ok enough and the "blind" upgrade would have its own challenges.
Actually I went to the service center today and I was surprised when he said that he was going to perform a JTAG. Didn't really know that they could do that, but yeah.
Thanks anyway.. Just for future reference is there an Arabic ROM for HTC s710, because i searched the internet for over a week and didn't find one.
wow, this is great service - just tell what they will charge you for that - and how long it takes. Maybe they send it to some special center where they can do that, so it takes time.
Do they have an Arabic ROM for the Vox which they could put there?